Liberal Bullies Get a Taste of Their Own Medicine

Barronelle Stutzman is the owner of Arlene’s Flowers. When one of her customers, Robert Ingersoll, a homosexual, asked Stutzman to supply the flowers for his upcoming wedding with his male “partner,” she refused. She cited her religious beliefs.

Stutzman never refused Ingersoll service when he ordered flowers for personal use. It was the idea of homosexuals marrying that she opposed.

“When it came to doing his wedding, I said, ‘I could not do it because of my relationship with Jesus Christ.’ He thanked me and said he respected my opinion. We talked and gave each other a hug and he left,’ she wrote.”

 Instead of going elsewhere, Ingersoll sued. The ACLU, the multi-million-dollar fundraising organization, got into the act and joined the suit along with the State of Washington. So a 70-year-old woman who owns a flower shop is being sued by the full power of the state of Washington and an anti-Christian bullying organization that “has net assets of almost 300 million dollars.”

Why should anyone be compelled to sell any service to anyone for any reason? If the KKK had come in to order flowers for an event, do we think Washington’s Attorney General would be bringing a suit? How about a white supremacist group? NAMBLA?

What if an anti-abortion group wanted to purchase flowers from a florist that was fervently pro-abortion and the owner refused the business? Would the ACLU have taken the case?

Homosexuals are the real discriminators. They are the real bullies. Off-the-wall pro-homosexual marriage supporter Michael Kinsley writes in the New Republic:

“DC Comics dropped writer Orson Scott Card’s planned Superman book when thousands signed a petition demanding it because of his many homophobic [sic] remarks.”

 Stutzman has decided to counter sue. Alliance Defense Fund’s senior legal counsel Dale Schowengerd states:

“In America, the government is supposed to protect freedom, not use its intolerance for certain viewpoints to intimidate citizens into acting contrary to their faith convictions. Family business owners are constitutionally guaranteed the freedom to live and work according to their beliefs. It is this very freedom that gives America its cherished diversity and protects citizens from state-mandated conformity.”

 Too many Americans give into intimidation. They believe it’s their lot in life not to make trouble. Too many Christians misunderstand the Apostle Paul’s message in Romans 13 about “being [in] subjection to the governing authorities” (v. 1). It doesn’t mean being silent or passive when a government goes on the attack.

When Paul was about to be beaten by a Roman soldier, he appealed to his Roman citizenship and was immediately afforded legal protection (Acts 22:25–29). On a later occasion, when some of his fellow-countrymen from Jerusalem brought “many and serious charges against him which they could not prove,” he appealed to Caesar (Acts 25:9–12).

The attitude of many Christians, conservatives, and even libertarians have been opposed to fighting the homosexual agenda by arguing that it’s best to “live and let live” and “not judge.” We should not “impose our morality on other people.”

The worm has turned. Homosexuals who used the “toleration” card to get their foot in the legal door are now slamming it shut on anyone who disagrees with their agenda. There will be a price to pay for opposition.



  • jong

    Homosexuals have never been the "poor" victims that they like to portray. They want everyone to see a little cute puppy that could never ever bite you. The reality is much different as they are a rabid dog. First of all it is not a life style but a disease. In our Bible bases society and culture it is wrong by all definitions that GOD has given us and he has directly said that in his law that they are to be destroyed and their own deaths were created by themselves and that their is no blood guilt or crime against those that take such action. On the other side of it until 1975 the Society of Psychologists also said that. In 1975 they decided not to call it a disease out of cowardice because under the new DRM they still qualify for being a mental illness they were simply to lazy to define it. And scared by threats by homosexuals if they did not. Homosexuals are a environmental disease that can be cured as a genetic cause has never been found and the gays have tired but, even the most liberal doctors have never been able to prove it. Then we have those homosexuals that say that they are being discriminated against just like the blacks were. This again holds no water as a black person or a white person does not have a choice when they do. So in essence we have the liberal establishment not only allowing but encouraging immoral and unethical behavior out of the mentally ill. Some things never change.

    • James White, M.D.

      Well said, Jong. I have been away helping a sick friend, but glad to see your vigilance continues. Blessings, Jim.

      • jong

        An honor sir. I hope your friend is better. GOD's blessing to you.

    • boondoggles

      our Lord destroyed sodom and gommorrah for their homosexuality and perversion and he will do it again. He does not change. The bible says it is the end result of perversion. Time conservatives started giving to a conservative legal defense fund that fights to protect the victims of these kind of tactics.

  • Reelman1946

    Homosexuals, the angry 3%, the biological dead end...have NO special rights, no "civil rights"...always angry, never satisfied...a pitiful tiny minority...

  • $2398599

    To be fair , there are homosexuals , and there are HOMOSEXUALS. The latter are the trouble makers who actually believe that they are the NORM. and that we the, the rest of us heteros are their enemy. Our government has made it so much easier for these flagrant homos to say and do whatever they please in PUBLIC , because they have all sorts of laws to protect them ESPECIALLY.
    That's what makes them do what they do. I could care less what these creeps do to each other in the privacy of what BHO used to use, just stop the legal meandering. What a bunch of twits.

    • danimal

      You are right, Army, there are 2 two types of homosexuals. Most want to live their lives without making waves, then there are the few that live to stir the $#!t. Those are the ones we need to send off to their own little world

  • Walt

    Hang in there and keep fighting. Next they will be demanding we open and work on Sunday's. This has already been talked about. They've said that we have no right to deprive them of business on Sunday just for religious reasons. I HOPE YOU WIN!

  • David S. McQueen

    Homosexuals are simply people who demand attention, similar to a small child begging to be noticed by acting up. They've done nothing to warrant the attention they crave and certainly do not deserve a major change in society's mores.

    • Wolfy Ghalkhani

      this is happening because the left wants to demonize Christianity and force Christians to submit to their perverted agenda. its been going on since the 60's. the left wants to de-Christianize America and eventually destroy our constitution. they may get their wish with the build up of their muslim army. but then there's that pesky thing called the 2nd amendment.

      • Jesus Jones

        The 2nd amendment can be used against you too..don't you pukes ever forget that. Plenty of countries in the United Nations hate you right wing fascists and would LOVE to join us in ridding you from existence if you ever pushed us into civil war.

  • Kathy Fugitt Price Skaggs

    The goverment we have now pushes the Homosexual agenda and any other amoral agenda they can. The president is trying to make it so that health care personnel can't refuse to participate in abortion and that we can't even quit our jobs to avoid it. I would like to know how they are going to make me participate in an abortion if I don't want to. From what I hear they are going to start putting people in jail when they refuse to do something due to the christian religious faith.

    • boondoggles

      The bible talks about that. There may come a time where we as Christians are put in jail. But, at least we can find comfort in our faith knowing where we are going when we d ie. The rest have no hope except what they have here. So sad.

    • Jesus Jones

      You deserve to be in Jail Kathy. I truly hope it comes to that.

      • jong

        And you need to see the headsman for a little off the top.

        • Jesus Jones

          What I need and what horrific thing that's GOING to happen to you and your family are two entirely different things. One is your fantasy, and the other is reality.

  • dnav

    The whole reason we came to this country to start with (we meaning our original settlers) was for religious freedom -- because government was telling people how to live, think, believe, behave and what they could and could not do in conduct of business.

    So fast forward 230 years and what do we have in America? A government that is telling people how to live, think, believe, behave and what they can and can not do in conduct of business.

    We better stop the train wreck while there is time, people. WAKE UP.

  • mlhtmilldr

    I would have sold them dead or dying flowers

    • jmark72

      And infested with nasty biting insects!

    • Jesus Jones

      And I would have shoved the dead flowers up your arse and make you squeal like a pig .

      • mlhtmilldr

        The point is that as a business owner they have the right to serve or not serve anyone for any reason.

        • Jesus Jones

          No, they don't .. You don't know much about the law do you?

  • shoemama

    First Amendment of the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF,..." (Congress is the only body allowed to pass laws.) To my knowledge, Congress has never tried to pass laws to establish a particular religion, but the second part (prohibiting the free exercise, thereof) is under almost constant attack these days!

  • grassroot

    Liberal Fascism,, perpetrated by Liberal Fascists.

    • Jesus Jones

      You damn right..and you're going to end up getting a liberal a s s kicking.

      • $6286490

        Bring it on,MF.

  • Jack Parker

    Kweeers will stop at nothing to impose their psychosis on the rest of us. I guess there is no way to protect ourselves from irresponsible, psychotic perverts in the fringes of our society. Thanks again ACLU (Anit-American Communist Lawyers United).

  • alan_1969

    It is getting to the point that business owners will have to start killing these people, and blame it on attempted robbery, so you don't get sued for refusing service.

    • jmark72

      Good idea.

      • Katy

        Really? You think murder is better than opening a business' doors to a gay person?

        • $6286490

          So who are the militants homofacists?

    • Jesus Jones

      Someone should kill you and come up with an excuse that it was self defense.

    • Katy

      That would be horrifying. Would you consider that to be a positive alternative: Better to be a murderer than the provide a product to a gay person?

  • alan_1969

    In bible history, God raised up judges, to deliver His people from oppression. Let us pray that He raise up new judges to deliver His people from this oppression.

  • Terry Corcoran

    Castrate them. If they want to be bit@hes, then let's make them bit@hes....

    • Jesus Jones

      You deserve a late term abortion.

      • kap2002

        Hate speech????

        • Jesus Jones

          No, this is me being nice. , besides, if my reply is " hate speech". What do you call the comment I was replying to?? F U C K I N G HYPOCRITE!!!! You need to be beat for being so stupid.

    • Katy

      So your Christian beliefs are leading you to publicly recommend act of violence against human beings?


    • $6286490

      If they want violence they will get. JJ, better watch wtf you ask for,punk boy. Had that British soldier been armed, he would be alive. If someone in the crowd had been armed he may have lived. Jesus doesn't want us to not defend ourselves, same as Israel has a right to defend itself. Ever heard of the Crusades? Looks like the muzzies want another one. That's exactly how it started the first time. We will finish it. Keep screwing with Israel, see who gets the unscheduled sunrise.

  • Ray - Jesus is the Son of God.

    If you want to experience the Middle East, you only have to travel as far as Dearborn, Michigan. This western suburb of Detroit has a population of close to 100,000. Over 40,000 of them are Arab or of Arab descent, giving Dearborn the distinction of having the largest Muslim population of any city in the United States.

    The Muslims have been taking over many of the cities elected positions and have instituted many Muslim friendly ordinances. In fact the Muslim influence is so strong in Dearborn that the local high school held a girl’s only prom, since their religion does not allow girls and boys to dance or socialize together. If any other school in America did something similar based on Christian or Jewish beliefs, the ACLU and other groups would be circling the school waiting their turns to file lawsuits for violation of church and state. But these legal groups were nowhere to be seen in Dearborn....

    Every year around June, the Muslim community holds an annual Arab Festival. For several years, some of the Christian pastors and their followers have stood outside the festival trying to hand out water bottles and tracts as they witness to the lost. A number of the Muslims have responded with violence, throwing garbage, rocks and other items at the Christians. When the police showed up, they made arrests, but it wasn’t the ones carrying out the violence that were arrested, it was the Christians.

  • madman

    It's about time that people find a way to find for their freedoms.

    • Jesus Jones

      Find a way to find? Now that makes a lot of sense, idiot.

  • Mark

    Post a site where we can donate to this woman to fight the ACLU. Game is over, I for 1 have had enough of this perversion shoved down my throat.

    • Jesus Jones

      For every dollar you conservative maggots donate, I will donate $20 to counter you. You WILL NOT win this war.

      • kap2002

        What war?

        • Jesus Jones

          The war that you lost nearly half a century ago.

      • Wolfy Ghalkhani

        conservative maggot? who's a conservative maggot? I'm a conservative and I certainly am not a maggot. I dont have to follow your dictates..You can do your Saul Alinsky tactics all you want but I won't cower. the problem with the left is they confuse kindness with weakness.for too long Christians have been turning the other cheek, lets follow the muslim model and stand firm. if its a fight the left wants then lets fight.

        • Jesus Jones

          Oooooh, is that supposed to make you cockroaches sound tough? You Christians are NOT nice, nor do you EVER turn the other cheek. Besides, when we get ready to hit you you won't have an opportunity to turn the other cheek. It will be one hit. Us hitting you and you hitting the ground crying.

        • Katy

          You are REALLY hurting your cause.


        • Jesus Jones

          You are clueless Katy. I don't like any of you cause is being hurt how, exactly ? What IS that cause? If its to promote love between the ideological divide in America, than YES I'm hurting that cause badly.

          My cause is to promote civil war...

        • Katy

          The thing is, you appear to be advocating positions, but you do so in such a counter-productive way that I thought it was important that you be aware of it.

        • Jesus Jones

          These people who would rather kill gay people like you than serve you at their business .. , how are you going to help your position with your kindness? People like you who won't fight for yourself wind up getting killed in places where fascists like these take power. You are going to have to grow a pair if you expect to survive in a world where civil war is a real possibility.

        • Katy

          I don't think anyone has to be kind.

          It's not about being kind. When I left my comment to you earlier, though, I had watched you calling a series of people "retard," telling people they deserved to be aborted, and stating at one point "Your mother wants her P U S S Y back, she's tired of you raping it every night you incesteous [sic] maggot."

          You also refer to President Obama as "our President," which is a little weird if you are not from America and trying to bring the country down(?).

          So while I appreciate your looking out for my safety (I actually NEVER have issues with discrimination in my life, and I'm in Texas), you folks that are out there just tossing out lowest-common-denominator insults actually make things harder for everyone.

        • Jesus Jones

          Why would I want a productive relationship with fascists who would see me dead in a heartbeat if they had their way ? Lol, you truly are clueless Katy. The whole point IS to be counter productive, in case you haven't noticed..I want s h i t to hit the fan,so these fascists are put in their place. You pacifist liberal cowards are going to get yourselves killed if you don't step up to the plate and fight fire with fire.


          Now, I am not that educated, but it would appear that your argument is invalidated by the very plausible outcome of the actions of the less than 1% of the population. Please see the definition below............

          Definition of FASCISM
          often capitalized :
          a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti)
          that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands
          for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
          2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

          Now as a libertarian myself, the progressives consider me conservative, no way do I conform nor condone such a philosophy. So in your own words, you have condemned yourself to be the " fascist "

      • Jude O'Connor

        Sounds like a promise from a BS merchant.

  • Jude O'Connor

    Why can't you refuse service for anyone? Why does freedom cost anything? If you need to buy freedom it really does not exist.

    • Jesus Jones

      Because we say you can't. That's why. Now get lost before I make you.

  • Jesus Jones

    Did you right wing NUTS see the polls that were released today?? Our good president Obama is at 53% approval rating. His approval HAS NOT nor WILL NOT decline a bit after all these fake scandals rethuglicans have made up... In fact, I'd be willing to wager money that his rating will INCREASE the more you evil B A S T A R D S grasp at straws, whining like spoiled rotten kids over things like the fact that marines held an umbrella for him... See, the majority of America is SANE .. They know that pictures are all over the Internet of Reagan , bush, and every other president having marines hold umbrellas for him...they see you idiots as INSANE and , like the boy who cried wolf.. They will NEVER EVER buy a thing you have to say...

    To that I openly MOCK , RIDICULE and LAUGH at you nut bags. You can't do a thing about the fact that Obama will be in office for the next four to eight years - maybe even more. He is as popular as FDR and I see him easily holding office into old age, long after most of you pathetic losers are dead and gone.

    • mlhtmilldr

      Of coarse you refer to CNN for your info RCP average has his numbers at 49%. Your mother wants her basement back by the way.

      • Jesus Jones

        Your mother wants her P U S S Y back, she's tired of you raping it every night you incesteous maggot.

        • Jude O'Connor

          I stated school but maybe it's day care.

    • Jude O'Connor


  • Tigress for Liberty

    Ignore the heterophobic Obama zombi, Jesus Jones troll.

    • Jesus Jones

      I love heterosexuality, just as much as I love P U S S Y, which is more than life itself... The thing is,. I'm conservaphobic .. Conservatives are the lowest form of life and need to pay for their crimes against humanity. When civil war hits my highest aspiration is to be their death bringer. Conservatives don't deserve life or liberty and it would be my honor to take from them that which they do not deserve.

      • Jude O'Connor

        Good thing you had school today.

      • mlhtmilldr

        JJ you are one sick puppy

      • $6286490

        Molon Labe,AH.

  • John

    Ah, yes, the anti-Christian ACLU. Let's see how anti Christian they really are. And yes, they even defended the free speech rights of the KKK

    To list a few cases where the ACLU defended Christians and their freedom of speech:

    ACLU of Colorado Supports Students Wearing Christian Symbols in the Colorado Springs School District

    ACLU-NJ Defends Christian Student's Anti-Abortion Speech

    ACLU ofTennessee Defends Christian Students' Right to Preach in Public Park

    ACLU of Virginia Defends Christian Students' Right to Protest Against ACLU at Public School

    ACLU Defends Christian Students Wearing Anti-Islam Shirts to Florida Public School

    ACLU Fights For Christian Inmate's Right to Preach

    ACLU of Northern California Fights Law that Got Quakers Fired Over Loyalty Oath

    ACLU Defends Christian Librarian Disciplined for Refusing to Promote Harry Potter

    ACLU Defends Right of Individual Christian to Display Nativity Scene on Public Property

    ACLU Defends Christians Protesting Gay Rights in Florida

    ACLU Champions Religious Freedom Of Mormon College Student

    ACLU Fights for Christian Church's Mission to Feed the Poor

    ACLU Fights for Christmas Tree

    ACLU Files Suit to Protect Free Speech Rights of Christian Protesting Wal-Mart's Policy on Gays

    ACLU of Georgia and Baptist Church File Religious Discrimination Lawsuit

    ACLU of Rhode Island Files Appeal on Behalf of Christian Prisoner Barred from Preaching at Religious Services

    ACLU of Michigan Defends Catholic Man Coerced to Convert to Pentecostal Faith in Drug
    Rehab Program

    ACLU of New Jersey Joins Lawsuit Supporting Second-Grader's Right to Sing "Awesome
    God" at Talent Show

    After ACLU Intervention on Behalf of Christian Valedictorian, Michigan High School Agrees
    to Stop Censoring Religious Yearbook Entries

    ACLU Helps Free New Mexico Street Preacher From Prison

  • Katy

    Washington has that public accommodations law.

    The thing is going to get tested sooner or later.

    It will be interesting to see how the first one comes out.

  • BetseeRoss

    Good for her. I hope she sticks to her guns and gets plenty of community support.
    The extremists of the world have gotten their way much too long by bullying and recruiting the" anti-anything that is moral or conservative", liberal factions to defend them. What next? Will we be forced to serve naked people so as not to offend nudists? Stand by and watch pedophiles pick up nine-year olds because "they can't help it, they were born that way"? Public fornication, in broad daylight, as their expression of "free speech"?
    Civilization has always come with rules and limits. We have managed to have progress while still observing the most basic morals. These nut-jobs today want to push and destroy all of them that gave us a foundation to build our lives on.