New Court Ruling Could Nullify First Amendment

Judge Michael Ponsor has ruled in Sexual Minorities Uganda v. Lively (2013) that Scott Lively, through his talks in Uganda in opposition to homosexual behavior was in fact “aiding and abetting a crime against humanity.”

Lively, an evangelical pastor, was sued in a Massachusetts federal court by a foreign group called Sexual Minorities of Uganda (SMUG) based on provisions in the Alien Tort Statute (ATS). If this decision is upheld, every foreign group with a grievance will appeal to the ATS and inundate our courts with claims of injustice, and the First Amendment will not offer any protection.

Judge Posnor went on to write in his 79-page ruling that Lively’s anti-same-sex views can be compared “to that of an upper-level manager or leader of a criminal enterprise.” They are, according to Judge Ponsor, “analogous to a terrorist designing and manufacturing a bomb in this country, which he then mails to Uganda with the intent that it explode there.”

So speaking out against behaviors that only recently in the United States have been deemed lawful is akin to genocide?

We’ve seen this type of leftist logic before, and it’s not surprising that it came from a judge who was supported for the bench by John Kerry and Ted Kennedy and appointed by Bill Clinton. Soon after Timothy McVeigh bombed the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City in April of 1995, some on the left of the political spectrum blamed “anti-government rhetoric” for the assault. Supposedly “hateful” speech directed at politicians had incited a cadre of “right-wing” extremists to put words into explosive action.

A similar blame-game tactic was tried by then Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD) after the loss of the Senate to the Republicans in the 2002 mid-term elections. He blamed “talk radio,” and compared American “fundamentalists” to Islamic extremists. He claimed that critical talk about certain politicians and their policies could lead to a hostile environment that could spur people to violent acts. Daschle offered no empirical evidence to back up his claim.

On the 15th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, former President Clinton once again tried to make the connection between speech and domestic terrorism. The following is the reaction from a New York Post editorial:

“[Clinton drew] implicit parallels between bomber Timothy McVeigh and peaceful — if rambunctious — political dissent like the Tea Party movement. … Like we said: shameless.”

What about Judge Ponsor’s claim that speaking out against homosexual behavior is akin to “aiding and abetting a crime against humanity”? Is there such a thing in the world today? We kill about 1.2 million pre-born babies in America each year, but this is not a crime against humanity.

Texas State Senator Wendy Davis gets a multi-page spread in Vogue because she spoke passionately in defense of permitting the killing of late term pre-born babies.

“The article makes no mention of how, during a speech and press conference last week, Davis called abortion ‘sacred ground’ and indicated she may run for governor. Later, she indicated she thinks pro-life women ‘don’t understand’ abortion and she showed she has no understanding of the Kermit Gosnell case.”

Nothing is said about how the Southern Poverty Law Center’s claim that Family Research Council is a hate group influenced a pro-homosexual man to shoot up the organization and kill the employees.

Maybe we can deduce that President Obama’s pro-Muslim Brotherhood rhetoric has led to the destruction of Christian churches in Egypt and the persecution of Christians.

“Across Egypt, at least 60 churches have been targeted, along with Christian schools, homes,businesses and even an orphanage, according to conservative estimates. In the areas of Minya, Beni Suef, Fayoum and Assiut, Christian homes and businesses have received leaflets warning them to leave or face reprisals by Islamists, Christians said.”

A man speaks about the immorality of certain sex acts, and he’s “aiding and abetting a crime against humanity”? Judge Posnor’s ruling, if it stands on appeal, is one of the most dangerous decisions ever to come from the bench.

“The Liberty Counsel has insisted that Lively exercised ‘nothing more than civil, non-violent political discourse in the public square on a subject of great public concern, which occupies the highest rung of First Amendment protection.’”

If higher courts on appeal disagree, the days of free speech for conservatives are over.


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  • tony

    Our first amendment is long gone. Try shouting any one of many words considered non PC in the streets, and see what happens. The only part of it that stills stands is freedom of SOME of teh press, as long as they repeat what obama tells them.

    • Shar

      Let's review ~ Eric Holder, Reno's right hand man at the Waco killing of dozens of innocent women and children, torched the compound while Tim McVeigh sat and watched from the road (as did many others). THEN, is it not true that Tim got ahold of some of the FERTILIZER THAT HOLDER AND THE THUGGARY WERE RUNNING AND THE REST IS HISTORY??? So, now we have Holder running explosives, and guns, and if he was involved with the debauchery in Benghazi and the running of stinger missles ~ well ya gotta admit that he is the WORST!! DISGUSTING. And many innocent people have paid the price. DISGUSTING. How do these idiots sleep at night and don't they know>?????? GOD IS WATCHING.

      • Jaclyn Barnes

        Did you forget that last year at the,Democratic National Convention!!They voted to take G-d and Jerusalem out of,there platform!!!
        The only G-d that Obama believes in is,the Muslin Brotherhood one!!!That says death to all infidels!!!That includes Jews,Christian's and any other non-believers of Islam!!!!

      • ConservaDave

        The Bible in Proverbs 4:16 explains how some are so depraved that their consciences are seared, or worse, that their consciences have been turned upside down and inside out. "For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall." These people's "consciences" will actually bother them if they were to do good. That is why they cannot be shamed by the truth or are troubled when it is revealed that what they do is evil.

        • snowman8wa

          Ohhh Brother Dave, search down even farther to Agur's words in Proverbs 30:11-15....

          "There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.
          There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.
          There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up.
          There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.
          The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea, four things say not, It is enough:..."

          This is what MAN has become and it will only become worse, as we, the human race will continue to digress.

          Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis

        • Belinda Duras

          and that is WHY God told Joshua to take them out. when your conscious is so seared it accepts evil as the norm they are too gone to be allowed to contaminate the earth any longer

    • johnsnare

      I have said many times, that Free speech, is an exclusive of the liberal left leaning socialists. Conservatives, do not share the same freedoms. See the Ann Coulter, you tube video, when she was literally, forced off the stage, in fear for her life.

    • daves

      Mr. Demar leaves out some very important information about Uganda having the death penalty for being gay. Mr. Lively's remarks would have been fine in most countries.

      • Alrightalready

        So, he's still allowed to speak!?

      • John

        So, he should preach being gay is OK, that would get even more people killed in Uganda? Seems to me that as a result of what he said, if he converted someone to a heterosexual lifestyle, he'd be doing them a favor. We are living in an upside down world.

        • daves

          No, he should stop trying to spread his hatred to countries where people will die because of his actions. He is in effect a murderer.

      • Tom

        Dave,

        To your way of thinking, then, anyone who tells someone not to murder people is a murderer because if the person doing the murdering continues to murder, they will be executed? Seems rather circular arguments are your specialty. How ridiculous. If mankind has free will, he will do what he thinks is right in his own mind unless he believes in something greater than self. If so, he will defer to the higher authority. So just because someone makes him aware that there is such a higher authority doesn't mean he believes that the authority exists. He must believe in it before he knows he is doing wrong. So simply telling someone that homosexuality is wrong does not put them in any worse or better position because of it. It is what is in the mind of the "doer" that matters in determining whether he/she lives or dies...in Uganda or America. Nothing that this man said caused anyone to die. This judge has a reputation for illogical rulings and hysterical support for one world government and the international courts. In other words...a Progressive Democrat... You know, like you.

    • http://www.anointedimages.com/Pages/AMERICA.aspx TEARS FOR AMERICA

      I URGE EVERYONE who has not seen Agenda: Grinding America Down to watch it. Stop lamenting and moaning about the condition of the country and be part of the solution! Go back and read what the odds the Founders were up against. 75% of the population self-identifies according to a 2012 Gallup poll as Christian! Then how is this happening?
      FIND OUT and what YOU can do about it!
      http://vimeo.com/63749370

      MOST IMPORTANT MOVIE ON AMERICA EVER! Agenda: Grinding America Down needs to be seen by everyone. This is no conspiracy nonsense. Articulated, Meticulously researched epic telling of the 100 year history of trying to destroy America within detaching us from any moral anchors. Its not for nothing that Marx tied destroying Capitalism to removing God!
      PRAY FOR SCOTT LIVELY and DIVINE JUSTICE

    • http://www.anointedimages.com TEARS FOR AMERICA

      Communist Party USA (Committee’s of Correspondence), set up Mattechine Society founded by Henry Hay leading member of Communist Party to infiltrate culture and make homosexuality normal using Hollywood, media and education. Engineering society including changing the very definition of marriage is blocked by values of a Christian Civilization; Healthy nuclear families prevent the agenda of the left - The left has to destroy the biblical family. War always against traditional family.

      FIND OUT and what YOU can do about it!
      http://vimeo.com/63749370

      MOST IMPORTANT MOVIE ON AMERICA EVER! Agenda: Grinding America Down needs to be seen by everyone. This is no conspiracy nonsense. Articulated, Meticulously researched epic telling of the 100 year history of trying to destroy America within detaching us from any moral anchors. Its not for nothing that Marx tied destroying Capitalism to removing God!
      PRAY FOR SCOTT LIVELY and DIVINE JUSTICE

    • howard W

      That is exactly what should be done, We the People are the final arbitors of the Constitution, if you dont like the rueling stand against it, LOUDLY and BOLDLY!

  • James Hay

    This Judge Should Be Impeached And Removed From The Bench For First And Foremost Not Taking Care And Correctly Interpreting And Enforcing The Existing Constitutional Protections Against Abridgement Thereof Cause By Frivolous Claims By Foreign Individuals And Or Groups Designed To Destroy The Rule Of Law In This Country. The Offending Law That Facilitates This Outrage Must Be Abolished And Any Judge Who Continue To Push Such Ridiculous And Unjust Line Of Crapola Should Be Impeached And Immediately Removed.

    • John

      James, what capitalization rules are you following?

      • Myron J. Poltroonian

        The Rule Of "Putting The Emphasis On The First Syl-a-ble Of Every Word" Rule.

      • Jesse

        Is that all you can comment about? Stop wasting space!

      • Wigglypoff

        Ah, the liberal chimes in. See folks any time a liberal does not have a good argument they attack the writer. They start by attacking a poorly worded sentence or the improper use of punctuation.

        Understand that I believe the first amendment is for every one. Gay parades fall under this as well as so-called hate speech. Many things that come out of an individuals mouth or thumbs I totally disagree with, but I support their right to say it.

      • Wigglypoff

        Aw, the liberal who only votes based on a singular issue has now began to comment. See John has such a narrow focus he can't see anything but this one issue.

        What he has done here is attack a writer on his punctuation. He does this because there is no other solid argument to debunk what James had typed. This is a common tactic of liberals; they always believe they are smarter than everyone else.

        I support everyone's right to say what they believe. Many of the things that come out of their mouthes(or thumbs) I totally disagree with, but I support their right to say it. If you want a gay pride parade go ahead have it. This can be on one end of the street(mostly democrats here). On the other end you can have KKK parade(also democrats exposing their true hateful nature). Then send in the Muslim group of democrats so they all can work on their platforms together.

    • inooboe

      But who is gonna remove them?

  • Randall

    Freedom of Speech is a Constitutional Right and this judge should be tried and removed from office for violation of our Constitutional rights - enough is enough!

    • Mike Austin

      The 1 amendment is more important than a horse. Heis right was stolen and we know what they did to horse theives. Any stealing a right "by decree" deserves alot worse.

    • Elton

      Tried for treason, that's for sure.

    • http://www.yahoo.com Honorary

      "To consider the judges s the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions is a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the depotism of an oligarchy." Thomas Jeffersons
      The Constitution is for a moral people. It is unfit for any other.
      It is too bad this inspired document isn't held in the same high regard today by the citizens who have benefited so mighty from it - or the politicians who have sworn to honor and protect it.

  • J Burt

    Just keep your ear open and minds. Further more read the book "Rise of the Third Reich" then sit back and look what is happening in our country. I just saying. ........

    • Dorothy Starling

      I have read that book, and it is absolutely terrifying how some of the behaviors by those in power in the U.S. are lining up with it.

    • Mudguy

      Mudguy Sounds like "Dreams of my father"

    • Marty

      Here's another "scary book": The Ominous Parallels" by Leonard Peikoff. Subtitled "The End of Freedom in America," it juxtaposes statements of famous American politicians and policy-makers with quotes from other men of notorious reputation. It was published in 1982, so it misses all of Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama. I'd love to see a "revised edition", corrected for statements made during those four Presidencies.

      • Dinker

        Another good book is Animal Farm by George Orwell. It's short (80+ pages long) and he uses animals to depict people, such as foxes, pigs, horses, etc. Shows how a society of totalitarianism works. I read it about 50 years ago and it still holds up today!

  • http://1159pmgmt.blogspot.com Guy Macher

    How long will we be held hostage by idiot judges like this clown? Time he was removed.

    • Combat Veteran Seabee

      PHYSICALLY, with great bodily discomfort!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Wigglypoff

      By force if necessary!!

  • wog1

    In all actuality homosexuality is the crime against humanity. It furthers humanity in no possible way and only denigrates it. The only purpose it serves is to satisfy the libido of some perverts.

    • Disgusted

      Homosexuality, in the minds of some, serves a Great Purpose", like abortion, obamacare, endless war, etc to reduce the population, save the envirnment(explosives save the envirnment?), reduce the ocean rise. Of course, in those minds, the ends justify the means. War improves technology...

    • Wigglypoff

      Sex addiction in any form is reprehensible. Sleeping with hookers also furthers humanity in any way. This slippage into vulgarity that America has been doing since early in her history is what has given homosexuals a grip on what is becoming a reality today.
      If you watch porn stop; if you visit hookers stop, if you screw your cousins stop.
      I don't defend homosexuals but they are not the only ones in the wrong.

  • Anonymous

    You know what? This attack on our Constitution has got to stop! I'm sick of these liberals shredding it!

  • oldwhitehair

    This kind of a ruling will get the revolution started and judges' and politicians' heads will roll.

    • Elton

      Yep. Sad day isn't it?

    • BetsyB

      When CA was first being settled, there were several corrupt Judges who thought they were immune from justice. We The People on one day hung them from the highest buildings' windows for all to see. No more corrupt judges (well at least for a short while).

    • Wigglypoff

      Literally!

  • allen goldberg

    What a truly 'brilliant decision'. Once this judge extricates his head from his anal canal, he will see that free speech, is guaranteed by our constitution. You have the right to disagree, but you still have free speech. You also have to be responsible for your words.
    This judge is trying to please the world. WE DO NOT HAVE TO!! And This pastor, did absolutely nothing wrong. The case should never have been heard. It should have been thrown out.

    • William

      Freedom of speech is a right that was passed down from God. There are laws that prohibit speaking unfairly about some one or inciteful. Once the courts were in control by the liberals it seems all the rights of God are in jeopardy.

  • Griz

    Can anyone guess WHY Posnor might have made such a ruling? It shouldn't be too difficult.

    • http://Godfather Duke

      Are you saying he's Queer

      • inooboe

        Yep!

    • BetsyB

      Agenda 21? He's gay? All of the above?

      Remember, the first law Clinton signed was to cancel don't-ask-don't-tell. Hillary is bi.

      • Wigglypoff

        Clinton enacted don't ask don't tell; Obama cancelled it.

      • Spatcher

        And all along I thought BushMaster was a gun!

  • SoCalStar

    Since the Constitution was slightly changed in 1871 when the United States became a corporation, the Constitution could be construed as a LEGAL CONTRACT. Someone needs to sue the federal government for BREACH OF CONTRACT. This is how families are winning against Child Protective Services who kidnaps children and then refuses to return them when families comply with all demands. BREACH OF CONTRACT.

    • TW

      Right on! many do not realize that the corporation known as THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and the Federal Reserve has been pulling the wool over our eyes for many, many decades. This is the very reason the supreme Court ruled that ObamaCare is constitutional based on the premise that we are corporate entities subject to corporate taxation under the commerce clause.

      • Wigglypoff

        If its a corporation than it is one that bleeds more red ink than any corporation in history. Corporations make money not burn it.

  • Niku

    Impeachment is the first thing that comes to mind. I don't say "Tarring-and-feathering," or "horsewhipping," because some judge would no doubt call that inhumane.

    • Jesse

      How about firing squad? That would be appropriate for all the leftist communist derelicts! Most are anti-gun!

  • cptphilb

    The Courts do not have the authority to nullify any amendment...the ONLY way an amendment can be eliminated, nullified, changed, etc. is defined in Article V of the Constitution.

  • http://carlwk3c.wordpress.com Carl Stevenson

    No court can (legally) nullify any of the protections of the Constitutional and Bill of Rights.
    It's time these activist judges that are trashing the law of the land be held accountable, thrown from office, and jailed (or hanged would be better).

  • rockyvnvmc

    To the Best of my understanding, the First Ten (10) Amendments, to the Constitution, were considered, by our Founding Fathers, to be 'God Given Rights', which were merely 'Guaranteed' by codification into our Constitution. Thus, no act of the Legislatures, or the Judicial Branches are capable of either Repealing them or of Nullifying them.
    As All men (and women) are imbued with certain, unalienable, 'God Given Rights', per our Declaration of Independence.

  • stevor

    This just gives o'bama more ammo to throw out the constitution, similar to whether Cruz is let run for President despite being born in Canada. Then they can make a new one without the 2nd amendment and probably none of most other amendments.

    • http://q.com snooki61

      Cruz was born in Canada, but to an American mother,
      therefor a citizen of US, and Canada. But just renounced
      his Canadian citizenship.

      • Patricia

        I believe the Constitution reads that you must be a NATURALIZED CITIZEN, born in the United States by TWO American Citizens, not just one.

        So neither Cruz nor Obama are legally eligible for the Presidency.

        It is past time for the people who are in political positions to realize that they are there for the PEOPLE, not their pocketbook, or any PERSONAL agenda.

        When this country started, the politicians were not paid for being a politician. They had other jobs which paid the bills and put food on their table. Now, Politician is the way they get money in their pocket to pay the bills and food on the table.

        It is PAST TIME for these politicians to realize that. Way past time...

      • Jesse

        But he is not of both parents being natural born citizens. Not saying I'm against him running but if Obama is illegal because his father was Kenyan then Cruz would be illegal.

        • Wigglypoff

          His do called father was not actually barrack Obama sr. His mom cheated on that drunken abusive Kenyan with an American. So actually Obama, much to my irritation, had every right to run. If his father was actually senior than he would not have any right to run.

    • Wigglypoff

      You have no idea what you are talking about. Naturalized citizen is not defined as being born in the USA! It is defined as being born to two USA citizens.

      • http://carlwk3c.wordpress.com Carl Stevenson

        No, naturalized means you weren't a citizen, but applied for citizenship, met the requirements, and became one.
        That's different entirely from being a "natural born citizen," which means you were born here, of tow parents who were both citizens at the time of your birth.

        • Wigglypoff

          Yep, I stand corrected.

  • oldvet

    Maybe OUR country could charge this "smug" group SMUG that they are contributing to the undermining of OUR CIVIL RIGHTS! They have the right to their beliefs by suing for a free thought. Yet WE are being denied our right to voice our FREE THOUGHT! Don't like the "remark?" Then IGNOR IT! I'm quite sure there are many who IGNOR what SMUG has to say!

  • walter bazner

    This judge needs to be recalled and disbarred the movement to get rid of these type judges is on/politician beware you dont represent us your gone to Rise Up America Vote and be heard also smother congress and the senate with emails and remarks we will not stand for this behavior anymore your either with the majority or against us we have rights and they are being buried by all this crap!

  • jas

    This is what happens when the church of Jesus Christ, sits back and tries to placate the "world".

    There is no doubt the Bible will be deemed by the unsaved to be a hate book, or hate speech. Preachers in this country will face the same possibility of jail for hate speech for speaking against homosexuality.

    Just as in the day of Jesus, more and more "christians" are falling away, and Jesus is still asking the same question, Matthew:6: v66 At this point many of his disciples turned away and deserted him. v67 Then Jesus turned to the Twelve and asked, “Are you also going to leave?”

    • William

      The Book of Matthew chapter 6 - only goes to verse 34

      • William

        I found your Quote in John 6:66-70

    • SouthernPatriot

      Obviously, his disciples had spoken amongst one another about this, as Peter, who was the more quick to speak, "Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God."

      • William

        AMEN

    • charlie

      There is no "church of Jesus Christ" left, they are all churches of men There are some home churches and a few small churches that follow Jesus. But all the denominations are an abomination and draw people to themselves, not to Jesus, so they cannot be rightly call His church as He is allowed NO place in them.

  • http://q.com snooki61

    Cruz is considered a Canadian citizen as he was born
    there, but also a citizen of US as his mother is a
    citizen of US. He recently gave up his Canadian citizenship.

  • Irma

    Me thinks someone is in dire need of a dope slap. America for Americans - if they don't like it, get the f out!

  • shutupnsing

    Citizen's Grand Jury...our only hope!

  • Irma

    America for Americans - it they don't like it, get the F out!

  • http://yahoo Terry7170

    Lots of great comments here! We have one huge problem in the US. All of these great people are too sorry to get off their rears and vote or even write their representatives. Good so called Christians didn't vote because of Romney's religion. I'm not calling him evil but some times we have to choose the lesser of two evils. There's enough people professing to be Christians to elect anyone they want but look what we have representing the USA. There's only one reason the devils are controlling our country and it's the church or our many Christians that can pat themselves on the back for it. You prey like a Christian and every thing will take care of it's self but most vote their pocket book. Who promises the most with other peoples money is winning. God helps us. I think he is doing what we have asked for and left this hell hole.

    • suzy

      I agree with you about people sitting on their duffs and not voting. However, I think in this last election the reason dumbo was so smug about the whole thing leading up to the day of election, he knew how many of his thugs and illegals were voting. there was so much fraud in this last election, he would have won regardless how many of us voted. His votes were bought and paid for long before voting day. I voted but of course, not for dumbo

      • Patricia

        I read that there were even dead people that voted for odumbo... how is that even possible!

    • Jesse

      Unfortunately that's all we have to vote for! The one who will do the least damage to our country.

  • Ithamar

    "If higher courts on appeal disagree, the days of free speech for conservatives are over." Then the only recourse will be a resort to arms culminating in various form of deadly violence in defense of the truth, or death to those who adhere fast to God's laws.

  • http://www.InformingChristians.com Debra J.M. Smith

    I truly appreciate such a no-frills, to the point, well written article that simply flows right till the end, as the above article is. Thank you.

    Scott Lively's first amendment constitutional rights absolutely are being stomped on. And all of ours are in jeopardy with this bad court ruling.

    Debra...
    Informing Christians Journalist

  • SouthernPatriot

    The truth is that Congress has passed, local state legislators have passed, our present POTUS has decreed edicts, and local governments have passed numerous laws and regulations which have carved away at our Second Amendment guarantees.

    Years ago, in St. Louis, as well as presently in many cities and towns throughout America, permits are necessary to preach "legally" on the streets. These permits are in fact a tax, so free speech is being taxed. Free speech is being regulated and should this abomination of a judge have his verdict upheld, the same will be so and more so over and over again.

    It is thought by many who work with populations in Uganda, and in east Africa, that HIV and AIDs originated among the SADs (sexually aberrant deviants) there who also had sex with women and passed this killer disease to the heterosexual population in Uganda and through prostitutes and others to an ever-expanding group.

  • anzablazer

    Things keep going like they are.All of America is going to be Nullify.

  • RCHGUNS

    This has to be one of the most ridiculous rulings in the history of the judiciary. What would cause a supposedly educated individual like Judge Posnor make this type of a ruling.
    This would be the type of ruling that you would expect someone who has lost touch with reality. This is like as shyster lawyer looking to make a name for himself with outlandish garbage lawsuits.
    Once upon a time there was a country where the populace for the most part were educated, courteous, sensible, and above all else free individuals who can live their lives knowing that their God-given freedoms could never be taken away. There was also an old saying that he took 90% of the judges and 100% of the attorneys out behind the courthouse and hung them from a tree our judicial system would improve 200%. I thought that was a joke I see now that my grandfather was not joking at all.

    God Bless America, God Save America, and Pass the Ammunition

  • ConnieJ`

    If his speech was in Uganda, then how is this case even in an American court? Are Americans now being tried for supposed "crimes" in another country? Let the SMUG Ugandans stay in their own country and take care of their own problems (Oh, but there aren't the deep American pockets there, are there?). And the ATS shoud be eliminated. Americans should NOT be subject to foreign lawsuits for perceived 'violations' of their sensibilities. We're ALL sick and tired of all the thin-skinned people looking for a BIG payoff for 'hurt feelings'. JUST GET OVER IT!

  • http://msn Tagdogs

    It amazes me how many judges and lawyers and even our POS president, who is suppose to be a Constitutional Lawyer, have no real understanding of the Constitution itself. Maybe having a literacy test and lie detector test should be required of all judges and politicians before they can take office.

  • raygun

    This C**P needs to be defeated ASAP and the liberal, progressive judge disbarred for criminal activity. We will fight this from now to the end of the world as we know it.

  • C Cannon

    If we keep voting in Democrats, you can believe that this country is headed for the trash can, in other words a 3rd world banana republic with a dictator named Barack Obama. Indeed Liberalism/ progressivism is a 100 percent fatal disease!

  • shearwater

    I thought it took an act of congress to change the constitution! These judges swore to protect and defend the constitution of the United States of America when they were installed. Since they are not keeping their word they should be impeached.

  • http://GodfatherPolitics S. Daily

    It is highly unlikely that this ruling will make it past the First Circuit. Even if it does, the U.S. Supreme Court VERY RARELY chooses to hear cases based on the Alien Tort Statute. Although the Supreme Court, with it's supposedly Conservative majority MAY decide to hear this case, even Chief Justice Roberts, who has admittedly served Obama well these last few years, has to realize that affirming this ruling - which sounds like something out of a leftist fantasy story - will cause an uproar of unprecedented magnitude, and destroy the credibility of the Supreme Court for years to come.

  • S.K.Y...

    Ignorance of negative speech comes both ways in this world. You have the regressive left that gladly excepts anything in this world that is perverted, that fits into their agendas. Then you have the sanctimonious right that sees this world as a condition that needs help to identify another inconveince.
    Both sides have the same accute condition of, who can scream the loudest and I say to everyone, believe nothing that you see and half of what you hear, because we will never get the full truth from no-one.
    As an independent, I have come to really hate both sides of the arguement and any filthy animal out there that tells me what I can and cannot say, will find my wrath!!!

  • Nemesis of Empire

    It's still the JEWS that must be taken care of first. The root of all evil must not be allowed to burrow deeper.

    • ezekiel22

      Lay off the jews okay? Jesus and the apostles were all born jewish, the early church was considered a sect of judaism at first. Blaming the jewish people for everything blinds one to everything else going on in this world. God Himself warned against those that come against Israel knowing full well that his Son would be crucified by the Gentiles after being condemned by the Jewish elders.
      I have noticed lately that anti-semitism is growing which is one of the signs of the times. It also has spread into an anti-christian legalism that deices the New Testament and therefore makes of no importance Christ's sacrifice on the Cross. It also goes into a legalism that is confusing as there is as some claim only one way to address God and that is Yahweh. Others state another using G-d or the tetragrammaton.
      None of these lead one to the truth of Christ. They just lead to confusion which is not from God.

      • v steve

        Hay, jews are not off limits here in United States of America, we have free speech, read our constitution. Stop trying to stop people from their free speech rights. May be you should try to find some where else to live out side of the United States. It`s time to bring the jewish group out from the shadows or should I say out from behind the person that they are having to do their dirty work.

    • DHConner

      It's too bad you weren't born in Germany in about 1935. They also had a policy of murdering mental defectives, which you sure as hell are. If it wasn't Einstein and Teller and some other Jewish geniuses, we could be saying Sieg Heil when we deify Der Lieder. You need to see a psychiatrist and get on some anti-delusion medication. Or maybe your just one of those dull-normal mental problems that doesn't understand how stupid and sick you really are.

    • Dorothy Starling

      1 Timothy 6:10 states-- "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." Nowhere in this verse does it even mention the Jewish people.

    • Wigglypoff

      Are you sure your not a demoncrap pos. wth dude. Democrats are full of hate speech veiled in deceit. You are open about your racism. Even the kkk(aka democrats dressed in white) concealed themselves with sheets.

  • Donald Yates

    The 11th amendment to the constitution says" The judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by citizens of another state, or by citizens of any foreign state."

  • http://MSN citizenrights

    The Court Cannot Legislate. Or Nullify a Amendment to the United States Constitution or Law. This is only accomplished through the opinions of the court and the beliefs of the people who choose to believe in such rubbish,THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION IS STILL THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND! ARTICLE ONE,ARTICLE TWO ARTICLE THREE AND ARTICLE SIX. If this were not so there would not be any one trying to still dismantle it completely.

  • bob

    Since when can someone from a foreign country sue against the First Amendment? Last time I looked it covered AMERICANS, not some foreigner from a tin horn, two bit dictatorship. This judge needs to be f.cking shot.

    • paperpushermj

      Have you been living on the dark side of the Moon? Do you know how many filters just picked up on "This judge needs to be f.cking shot".
      Welcome to the Land of the Less Free !!!

  • paperpushermj

    Jurisprudence from the Supreme Court down has abandoned the US Constitution for the House of Cards they have built on Court Ruling and Precedence.

  • http://Yahoo Catherine

    Another liberal judge that thinks his opinion is the only one that counts - not out American Constitution/Bill Of Rights/American Laws. IMPEACH HIM! Throw the SOB out of his "office". Try & convict him and hang the traitor.

  • GunnerO6

    No judge can overrule any part of the U.S. Constitution or any Amendments to the Constitution. The first ten Amendments are the People's Bill of Rights. Changes to or a repeal of any part of the Constitution can only be made by an Amendment approved and ratified by two-thirds of the 50 State Legislatures. No Treaty made with one or more foreign powers can trump the U.S. Constitution. The Supreme Court issued such a ruling as late as 1958.

  • http://WWW.CAPTAINSBLOG.US ABUTOM

    SLAVES FROM AFRICA KNEW THE FREEDOM THEY LOST. AMERICANS BORN INTO SLAVERY TODAY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY LOST.
    YOU TUBE
    SAVE THE KIDS
    AMERICAN CROSS ROADS

  • Thom Raasio

    There needs to be an amendment made to the U.S. Constitution, altering the "OATH OF OFFICE" to say

    "Under penalty of DEATH, I....(state your name), do solemnly swear (or affirm)..........that I will protect and defend the CONSTITUTION against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic. Other wise I shall become, and be called, a domestic enemy and TRAITOR, and deserving of death."

    Then it would be easy to get rid of anti-constitutional radicals and anarchist, like this STUPID Communist JUDGE.

  • http://www.survivingurbancrisis.com/ Silas Longshot

    There is no 'reasoning or logic' when one is dealing with the mentality of the one-world, globalist government pushing agenda, dripping with hate for all things Christian and moral. Clinton, 0bama and such scum, by insinuating radical activist "judges" into our system of law, can carry out their poisonous agenda for DECADES after they have left office, the seeds of destruction of our system planted deep with no way to root them out. A lifetime position should be unconstitutional and never allowed in ANY position of government or judicial systems of this country.

  • http://www.transcend7.com Dr M

    The ultimate hubris -- That the US federal courts have any jurisdiction at all over incidents occurring in another country.

  • Abinadi

    So they are telling us that the moral laws that mankind have been given to help us live good moral righteous lives will no longer be
    considered. What a terrible thing to be given to a country that has
    biased its laws and behavior on doing what is right. After that flood
    gate is open all hell will break loose and crime will destroy what good
    is left in America.

  • Anonymous

    Reading this made me sick. If you think the GLBT perverts don't have a homosexual agenda, then you are delusional. This is exactly what they want! To criminalize anyone who disagrees with them. Amazing how intolerant the tolerant Left is.

    Nullifying the First Amendment would criminalize thought. Criminalizing thought is totalitarianism. Next the Left will target freedom of religion, freedom of association, etc. Thus creating a Police State...the things our founding fathers have fought so hard for!

    • http://www.anointedimages.com/Pages/AMERICA.aspx TEARS FOR AMERICA

      The real agenda is the compromising of those who find this abhorrent. Force those with morals and ethics and biblical values to compromise - corrupt them. This is not about tolerance. But destroying what is moral and decent, anything goes so sodomites can live in whatever filth and perversion and claim this lifestyle is natural, god made that way. That's the real agenda to corrupt those that want to live holy lives, clean lives, pure lives. Otherwise the homosexuals would go find wedding photographers, and cake makers and gurus or whoever to unite them and leave alone those who find all this repugnant filth and chose to live by the Almighty's definition of marriage. The real agenda is to To destroy the family of mother and father - where father is priest of his household, provider, protector, discipliner, instill virtures, integrity, modesty, who brings his children up in the admonition of the Lord. Gives them a MORAL compass to function in a free society

      MUST SEE MOVIE: this is the MOST IMPORTANT MOVIE EVER MADE ON AMERICA. PERIOD
      Agenda: Grinding America Down - no conspiracy nonsense.
      http://vimeo.com/63749370 on line FULL length FREE

      This is a history lesson of epic proportions on 100 year effort to destroy America from within using social policy and turning the educational system on its head to the goal of making America so corrupt it stinks and detaching us from any moral anchors.
      Its not for nothing that Marx tied destroying Capitalism to removing God. And Joseph Stalin said "America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.”

      • William

        Dear Tears for America; Thank you - so few are willing to put everything on the line - 1st for GOD and his perfect way, 2nd for family raising to know his Glory and ways, and for OUR America founded on GOD and his laws. WE must remember Russia said America will fall and it will from within. Sorry to see it happen but GOD is in control!!

  • Jim Welch

    If the past actions of our government foretells the future, conditions will only worsen.

    The Liberties and Freedoms in America have slowly been strangled as if in the grip of a boa constrictor. It is the classic example of "boiling the frog."

    America was created to preserve the Rights and Liberties of the Individual and to protect against the tyranny of the majority. The Declaration of Independence tells as much - "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,. . . . "

    Jefferson further emphasized this when he said, “It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all.” —Thomas Jefferson to Francois D’Ivernois, 1795.

    This is no longer the case. America, once the Land of the Free and the Brave, has morphed into a Land dominated by a fascist government.

    Benito Mussolini defined modern fascism in his book, The Philosphy of Fascism. He said, "Against individualism, the Fascist conception is for the State; and it is for the individual in so far as he coincides with the State, which is the conscience and universal will of man in his historical existence. It is opposed to classical Liberalism, which arose from the necessity of reacting against absolutism, and which brought its historical purpose to an end when the State was transformed into the conscience and will of the people. Liberalism denied the State in the interests of the particular individual; Fascism reaffirms the State as the true reality of the individual. And if liberty is to be the attribute of the real man, and not of that abstract puppet envisaged by individualistic Liberalism, Fascism is for liberty. And for the only liberty which can be a real thing, the liberty of the State and of the individual within the State. Therefore, for the Fascist, everything is in the State, and nothing human or spiritual exists, much less has value, outside the State."

    Both the Democrats and the Republicans have sanctioned and adopted the Supremecy of the State over the Rights of the Individual as evidenced by the legislation and regulations they have regurgitated upon America.

    Think not? What can you do that is not regulated or allowed only by permission of a license?

    You are monitored more closely than any society in the history of the world.

    The State may imprison you without a trial for an indefinite period (National Defense Authorization Act), seize your property without convicting you of any crime (Forfeiture Laws), or kill you with impunity without giving you the benefit of a trial (Military Commissions Act and Patriot Act,and remember Waco and Ruby Ridge).

    Don't expect either the Democrats or the Republican politicians to surrender their power and restore your Rights. They are the ones who took them, and there has not been a single instance in the history of mankind where power over a nation and it's people's was voluntarily surrendered.

    Frederick Douglas summed it pretty well, "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will.

    Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they have resisted with either words or blows, or with both.

    The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."

  • dockilldare

    this reminds me of a funny story. see I grew up in Mass. well about 5 years ago I moved to Florida. my family had moved down here while I was prepping for duty in Iraq. well I was retired and had a business in the north east so I stayed there. that first summer I came down here, my youngest brother comes over on bright Saturday morning and wakes me up telling me he is going to take me to a gun show. ok cool never been to one, I walk in and there are about half a dozen rows of AR's and then about another half a dozen of AK's. on top of that there are at least another dozen rows of various handguns, shot guns, and rifles. I'm in complete shock, my mouth was watering and the only thing going through my mind is I need more money today. a state police officer came up and said I had to move on I was blocking the line. I literally was just inside the doors. I apologized and told him I just moved from Mass. his response was to laugh, then he said "I understand, welcome back to the united states."

  • v steve

    It`s those that are saying free speech is aiding and abetting a crime against humanity that are aiding and abetting a crime against humanity. It`s those who are not in Unity with the Constitution and it`s amendments that are aiding and abetting a crime against humanity.

  • Mildred Fischer

    The First Amendment is the law of the land. We follow the law of the land. Speaking out against homosexual behavior is not “aiding and abetting a crime against humanity, and even if it were, it is not in the Constitution and Constitutional law would take precedence over the laws that are not in the Constitution. Speaking out against an issue is not aiding and abetting any crime, it is having a dialogue with friends or unfriends.

  • Johnathan Huntington

    I strongly believe in equal rights and treatment for homosexuals. Homosexual behavior is moral and legal when done between 2 consenting people-same as hetrosexuals. I also believe in the rights of the un-born. However, I must disagree with the judge. In order for liberty and freedom to exist, all sides of argument must be allowed to be heard.

    • ADM

      Remove the word MORAL, and you could accept that Homosexuals can do what they like in their private bedrooms... but the "International Gay Rights Movement" is a political arm which wants far more than what the common "pooffe" would like, and is aiming at a final response... to test if homosexuals have the strength to take over and HOLD nations by force and immoral Laws. THE MORAL CODE WAS NEVER INVENTED BY MAN! - Man used it to hold a nation or tribe together and survive... and when used correctly, (with God as supreme commander under Law) - NO NATION trying to make WAR against such State, has ever defeated them. They only were defeated once they lost their way, and succumbed to immorality. The strength of a nation depends therefore on its adherence to a moral code which they do not modify from what was ordered.

  • George

    N. M. Supreme court is dead wrong. They should be removed from their post (where they think they are gods). No one, even the courts, can tell anyone who they can, should, would like to or just plain not work for. That would be like telling a brain surgeon, that he now has to work as a ditch digger because someone ask him to and he said no.

    These people are a bunch of jerks. If it were me, I would tell he courts that I still would not do that job.

  • Herb Eichen

    How come those who say homosexuality is immoral & depraved can possibly be charged with a hate crime, or suspended from a school, etc...but when the Homos & their enablers have their Pride Parades, they can show Jesus in bondage, Mary in a bikini & not have to worry about being charged with a hate crime? There are also many pornographic scenes at these sordid events right in front of children!

    • ADM

      The answer is simple, but sounds like conspiracy theory... after all, Obama thinks Christianity" is a conspiracy against him, so he alloows his Satans servants to do as they like in denigrating God.... to ensure all people think that what is evil is good, and what is good is evil (excerpt from scripture) - he must first enslave the minds of enough people via brainwashing, to be able to totally destroy morality, and be able to rule like a despot. AFTER THAT U.S.A. will become another Lybia/Syria/Egypt backwater as democracy is then dead, and despotism rules, with common people turned into almost slaves to the State.... and nO unemployment subsides there either! (beg or steal support only)... And enter Communism or Muslimism to promise better things! (repeats of 1912 Russia etc...) Life as we know it will not exist anymore, and there are so FEW countries allowing immigration to avoid the disasters. (I think in this World, only Australia still allows immigration of people with skills or business.)