Does the Libertarian Party Condone Pedophilia and Illegal Immigration?

With one of the Republican presidential candidate’s association with the Libertarian Party, I felt it necessary to find out exactly what that stand for and what they believe.

In May of 2010, the Libertarian Party held a convention in St. Louis, Missouri.  At this convention, they formally adopted Platform that specifies exactly what they believe and hold to.  I know this is a lengthy article, but thought I would display their Platform here and make my comments where necessary.  If no comment follows a section it infers that I agree or mostly agree with the statement.  You decide for yourself how much or how little you agree with them.

Libertarian Party 2010 Platform

Preamble

As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others.

We believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized.

Consequently, we defend each person's right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings. The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from government or any authoritarian power.

Comment: While this sounds good on the surface, it can be used to legally justify a number of lifestyles that are considered by many to be wrong and perverse such as child pornography, pedophilia, exhibitionism, drug use, etc.

In the following pages we have set forth our basic principles and enumerated various policy stands derived from those principles.

These specific policies are not our goal, however. Our goal is nothing more nor less than a world set free in our lifetime, and it is to this end that we take these stands.

Statement of Principles

We, the members of the Libertarian Party, challenge the cult of the omnipotent state and defend the rights of the individual.

We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose.

Comment: As commented above, this opens the door to dangerous and immoral lifestyles.  A pedophile could argue that the child was consenting and therefore no one was doing anything against their will.  Under this philosophy, a person could justify making, selling and using drugs that are now considered illegal and dangerous if everyone involved is consenting and say that it’s their own personal choice.  There needs to be some guidelines somewhere for the sake of society.

Governments throughout history have regularly operated on the opposite principle, that the State has the right to dispose of the lives of individuals and the fruits of their labor. Even within the United States, all political parties other than our own grant to government the right to regulate the lives of individuals and seize the fruits of their labor without their consent.

We, on the contrary, deny the right of any government to do these things, and hold that where governments exist, they must not violate the rights of any individual: namely, (1) the right to life -- accordingly we support the prohibition of the initiation of physical force against others; (2) the right to liberty of speech and action -- accordingly we oppose all attempts by government to abridge the freedom of speech and press, as well as government censorship in any form; and (3) the right to property -- accordingly we oppose all government interference with private property, such as confiscation, nationalization, and eminent domain, and support the prohibition of robbery, trespass, fraud, and misrepresentation.

Since governments, when instituted, must not violate individual rights, we oppose all interference by government in the areas of voluntary and contractual relations among individuals. People should not be forced to sacrifice their lives and property for the benefit of others. They should be left free by government to deal with one another as free traders; and the resultant economic system, the only one compatible with the protection of individual rights, is the free market.

1.0    Personal Liberty

Individuals should be free to make choices for themselves and to accept responsibility for the consequences of the choices they make. No individual, group, or government may initiate force against any other individual, group, or government. Our support of an individual's right to make choices in life does not mean that we necessarily approve or disapprove of those choices.

1.1    Expression and Communication

We support full freedom of expression and oppose government censorship, regulation or control of communications media and technology. We favor the freedom to engage in or abstain from any religious activities that do not violate the rights of others. We oppose government actions which either aid or attack any religion.

Comment:  Having the right to full expression opens the door to public nudity, public vulgarity and swearing, and other activities that most of us would consider to be wrong and repulsive.  Freedom in communication would allow the same things in media such as radio and television.  Prime time television would be opened up to the same things, vulgar language, nudity, public sexually explicit actions, drug use, etc.  Children’s programs could also depict these things and say that it is the choice of the viewer, but how would a responsible parent even know what would be depicted until it appeared on the screen in full view of their children

Our Founding Fathers established the nation on biblically moral principles.  There has to be some kind of check and balance system to maintain those moral principles.  History repeatedly shows us that a society without set moral values soon becomes a hedonistic and depraved society that collapses in on itself.

1.2    Personal Privacy

Libertarians support the rights recognized by the Fourth Amendment to be secure in our persons, homes, and property. Protection from unreasonable search and seizure should include records held by third parties, such as email, medical, and library records. Only actions that infringe on the rights of others can properly be termed crimes. We favor the repeal of all laws creating “crimes” without victims, such as the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes.

1.3    Personal Relationships

Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government's treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.

Comment: I reiterate that America was founded and established as a Christian nation with Christian principles.  Libertarians want to open the door to any and all sexual perversions (homosexuality, same-sex marriages, polygamy, adultery, prostitution, etc.).  Leviticus 20:13 says, “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.” 

Stating that consenting adults should have complete freedom to choose their own personal sexual preferences again opens the door to many perverse practices and public displays.  What if a consenting pair of adults prefer to have sexual relations in public or on in front of a school?  What if it involves their kids?  We periodically read reports of a parent having sexual relations with children or even prostituting them to other adults.

We saw this happen in ancient Greece and Rome not long before they both collapsed from within and I don’t want to see America follow their example.  Sorry Libertarians, but I adamantly have to disagree with you on this point.

 1.4    Abortion

Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.

Comment: I firmly believe that life begins at conception and that any form of abortion is murder.  Giving someone the right to choose does not justify murder. 

1.5    Crime and Justice

Government exists to protect the rights of every individual including life, liberty and property. Criminal laws should be limited to violation of the rights of others through force or fraud, or deliberate actions that place others involuntarily at significant risk of harm. Individuals retain the right to voluntarily assume risk of harm to themselves. We support restitution of the victim to the fullest degree possible at the expense of the criminal or the negligent wrongdoer. We oppose reduction of constitutional safeguards of the rights of the criminally accused. The rights of due process, a speedy trial, legal counsel, trial by jury, and the legal presumption of innocence until proven guilty, must not be denied. We assert the common-law right of juries to judge not only the facts but also the justice of the law.

Comment: I heartily agree with this section and wanted to emphasize that our current legal system actually gives jurors the right to determine if a law is just in the case in which they are sitting on.  However, judges and attorneys don’t inform the jurors of that right because they don’t want them to have that authority. 

1.6    Self-Defense

The only legitimate use of force is in defense of individual rights — life, liberty, and justly acquired property — against aggression. This right inheres in the individual, who may agree to be aided by any other individual or group. We affirm the individual right recognized by the Second Amendment to keep and bear arms, and oppose the prosecution of individuals for exercising their rights of self-defense.  We oppose all laws at any level of government requiring registration of, or restricting, the ownership, manufacture, or transfer or sale of firearms or ammunition.

Comment: Heartily agree with this provision.  The Founding Fathers that wrote the Second Amendment fully believed that every person not only had the right to bear arms but it was a necessity to have one in their home for protection.  In 1808, Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Jacob Brown wrote, “I learn with great concern that [one] portion of our frontier so interesting, so important, and so exposed, should be so entirely unprovided with common fire-arms. I did not suppose any part of the United States so destitute of what is considered as among the first necessaries of a farm-house.”

2.0    Economic Liberty

Libertarians want all members of society to have abundant opportunities to achieve economic success. A free and competitive market allocates resources in the most efficient manner. Each person has the right to offer goods and services to others on the free market. The only proper role of government in the economic realm is to protect property rights, adjudicate disputes, and provide a legal framework in which voluntary trade is protected. All efforts by government to redistribute wealth, or to control or manage trade, are improper in a free society.

2.1    Property and Contract

Property rights are entitled to the same protection as all other human rights. The owners of property have the full right to control, use, dispose of, or in any manner enjoy, their property without interference, until and unless the exercise of their control infringes the valid rights of others. We oppose all controls on wages, prices, rents, profits, production, and interest rates. We advocate the repeal of all laws banning or restricting the advertising of prices, products, or services. We oppose all violations of the right to private property, liberty of contract, and freedom of trade. The right to trade includes the right not to trade — for any reasons whatsoever. Where property, including land, has been taken from its rightful owners by the government or private action in violation of individual rights, we favor restitution to the rightful owners.

2.2    Environment

We support a clean and healthy environment and sensible use of our natural resources. Private landowners and conservation groups have a vested interest in maintaining natural resources. Pollution and misuse of resources cause damage to our ecosystem. Governments, unlike private businesses, are unaccountable for such damage done to our environment and have a terrible track record when it comes to environmental protection. Protecting the environment requires a clear definition and enforcement of individual rights in resources like land, water, air, and wildlife. Free markets and property rights stimulate the technological innovations and behavioral changes required to protect our environment and ecosystems. We realize that our planet's climate is constantly changing, but environmental advocates and social pressure are the most effective means of changing public behavior.

Comment: Again this sounds well and good, but if individuals who own and operate businesses took the personal responsibility for the effects their company had on the environment today we wouldn’t have any pollution problems.  Many owners don’t care about anything but the bottom line and making a profit.  Many measures to clean up pollution producing byproducts or practices are expensive and cost prohibitive, especially for smaller business owners. 

If owners won’t take the responsibility themselves, something has to be in place to see that they do.

2.3    Energy and Resources

While energy is needed to fuel a modern society, government should not be subsidizing any particular form of energy. We oppose all government control of energy pricing, allocation, and production.

2.4    Government Finance and Spending

All persons are entitled to keep the fruits of their labor. We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution.  We oppose any legal requirements forcing employers to serve as tax collectors. Government should not incur debt, which burdens future generations without their consent. We support the passage of a "Balanced Budget Amendment" to the U.S. Constitution, provided that the budget is balanced exclusively by cutting expenditures, and not by raising taxes.

2.5    Money and Financial Markets

We favor free-market banking, with unrestricted competition among banks and depository institutions of all types. Individuals engaged in voluntary exchange should be free to use as money any mutually agreeable commodity or item. We support a halt to inflationary monetary policies and unconstitutional legal tender laws.

2.6    Monopolies and Corporations

We defend the right of individuals to form corporations, cooperatives and other types of companies based on voluntary association. We seek to divest government of all functions that can be provided by non-governmental organizations or private individuals. We oppose government subsidies to business, labor, or any other special interest. Industries should be governed by free markets.

2.7    Labor Markets

We support repeal of all laws which impede the ability of any person to find employment. We oppose government-fostered forced retirement. We support the right of free persons to associate or not associate in labor unions, and an employer should have the right to recognize or refuse to recognize a union. We oppose government interference in bargaining, such as compulsory arbitration or imposing an obligation to bargain.

2.8    Education

Education, like any other service, is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Schools should be managed locally to achieve greater accountability and parental involvement. Recognizing that the education of children is inextricably linked to moral values, we would return authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government. In particular, parents should have control of and responsibility for all funds expended for their children's education.

2.9    Health Care

We favor restoring and reviving a free market health care system. We recognize the freedom of individuals to determine the level of health insurance they want, the level of health care they want, the care providers they want, the medicines and treatments they will use and all other aspects of their medical care, including end-of-life decisions. People should be free to purchase health insurance across state lines.

2.10    Retirement and Income Security

Retirement planning is the responsibility of the individual, not the government. Libertarians would phase out the current government-sponsored Social Security system and transition to a private voluntary system. The proper and most effective source of help for the poor is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals. We believe members of society will become more charitable and civil society will be strengthened as government reduces its activity in this realm.

3.0    Securing Liberty

The protection of individual rights is the only proper purpose of government. Government is constitutionally limited so as to prevent the infringement of individual rights by the government itself. The principle of non-initiation of force should guide the relationships between governments.

3.1    National Defense

We support the maintenance of a sufficient military to defend the United States against aggression.  The United States should both avoid entangling alliances and abandon its attempts to act as policeman for the world. We oppose any form of compulsory national service.

3.2    Internal Security and Individual Rights

The defense of the country requires that we have adequate intelligence to detect and to counter threats to domestic security. This requirement must not take priority over maintaining the civil liberties of our citizens. The Constitution and Bill of Rights shall not be suspended even during time of war. Intelligence agencies that legitimately seek to preserve the security of the nation must be subject to oversight and transparency. We oppose the government's use of secret classifications to keep from the public information that it should have, especially that which shows that the government has violated the law.

Comment: While I am all in favor of protecting individual right and freedoms and privacy, I have to ask at what cost of our national security and safety do we yield to maintain these rights and freedoms?  How many American lives have been saved by thwarted terrorist plans resulting in the government’s infringement of some of these rights?  Are we willing to allow more Americans to be killed and maimed by terrorist activities that otherwise could be prevented by certain questionable intelligence activities? 

I don’t like the idea of the government reading my e-mails, listening to my phone calls, reading my mail or any other means of invasion of privacy, but I also don’t like to give free reign to would be terrorists to kill more American citizens and disrupt our way of life.  Is there a balance between the two?  I don’t know there is, but feel these concerns must be addressed.

3.3    International Affairs

American foreign policy should seek an America at peace with the world. Our foreign policy should emphasize defense against attack from abroad and enhance the likelihood of peace by avoiding foreign entanglements. We would end the current U.S. government policy of foreign intervention, including military and economic aid. We recognize the right of all people to resist tyranny and defend themselves and their rights. We condemn the use of force, and especially the use of terrorism, against the innocent, regardless of whether such acts are committed by governments or by political or revolutionary groups.

3.4    Free Trade and Migration

We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a credible threat to security, health or property.

Comment: This section gives full endorsement of illegal immigration.  Who is to determine if an illegal poses a threat or not?

Illegal immigration has been proven to take jobs away from American citizens, lower property values when 20-23 of them move into one house, cost taxpayers for multiple benefits extended to them that American citizens do not have the right to, and the closure of numerous hospitals, urgent care and other medical facilities that cannot afford to stay in business when forced to give free treatment to hundreds of illegals. 

I believe if a person can demonstrate just cause for political asylum, then by all means all them into the country.  Otherwise we need to exercise strict border control to stem the flow of illegal immigrants.  We also need to round up the 12-15 million illegals already in our country, deport them back to their own country and bill their country for all expenses incurred in the arrest and deportation.

3.5    Rights and Discrimination

We condemn bigotry as irrational and repugnant. Government should not deny or abridge any individual's rights based on sex, wealth, race, color, creed, age, national origin, personal habits, political preference or sexual orientation. Parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their children according to their own standards and beliefs.

Comment: I again remind you that this opens the door to numerous perverse, immoral and anti-biblical lifestyles and activities.  I do not agree in giving benefits to people who God describes as an abomination and living a lifestyle that He said deserves being put to death.

This also could be seen as a contradiction to a statement in section 2.1 that states, “The right to trade includes the right not to trade — for any reasons whatsoever.”  What if I refused to trade or deal with someone that I believe is living an immoral and repulsive lifestyle such as homosexuality.  In section 2.1 it says that I can refuse to trade with anyone for any reason, but here in section 3.5 it condemns the same activity.  You can’t have it both ways.

3.6    Representative Government

We support electoral systems that are more representative of the electorate at the federal, state and local levels.  As private voluntary groups, political parties should be allowed to establish their own rules for nomination procedures, primaries and conventions. We call for an end to any tax-financed subsidies to candidates or parties and the repeal of all laws which restrict voluntary financing of election campaigns. We oppose laws that effectively exclude alternative candidates and parties, deny ballot access, gerrymander districts, or deny the voters their right to consider all legitimate alternatives.

Comment: Repealing the restrictions on voluntary financing of election campaigns would open the doors for the wealthiest people to literally buy political offices including the White House.  In some instances, this has happened in the past and the laws were enacted to prevent or reduce the chances of it happening again.  Politics is almost an exclusively rich person’s business now, but eliminating restrictions on campaign contributions would ensure that it would be a rich person’s game only.

3.7    Self-Determination

Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of individual liberty, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to agree to such new governance as to them shall seem most likely to protect their liberty.

4.0    Omissions

Our silence about any other particular government law, regulation, ordinance, directive, edict, control, regulatory agency, activity, or machination should not be construed to imply approval.

 


Comments

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  • blackpowder

    i believe in personal freedom so long as your freedom does not in any way intrude into my life. i do not believe in drugs of any kind, i do not believe in child porno or child abuse of any kind they can not defend themselves. but you will always find people that just can not mind their own business they have to mind yours also. with personal freedom comes great responsibility.

  • Greg

    Libertarians don't want the government in your bedroom concerning consenting adults. Predators might hide in the membership, but that doesn't mean anything, just like some racists at TEA Party protests.

    • Wayne

      just like they used to hide in Barney Franks appartment. Oh, I foreget, we don't talk of DemoRATS / the left. The bar for their lame standards is set so low for them, it's easy to hide, while on their knees.

  • Bob Marshall

    Citizens pay less attention to policies that affect them less directly. For that reason. the president often has more flexibility in foreign than in domestic policy. Despite the risk of blowback attacks on Americans at home and aboard, the interest of the government , the foreign policy elite, and other pleasure groups are furthered by an interventionist foreign policy to maintain the American Empire. An Empire that started in 1898. This is from the book: The Empire Has No Clothes.

  • Flyinhoss

    I am a Constitutional Conservative, but after reading the Libertarian Platform I realize that I could certainly embrace it. The age of consent can be codified in law, the same as fraud, theft, and violence. It's really not an issue and the author seems to want to throw the baby out with the bath water. Our society has yet to finally determine when life begins. I am personally against abortion and if/when my reasoning prevails it will be termed murder and bear a severe penalty, except in certain cases where the mother's health is in jeopardy.

    • scribbler1984

      "Our society has yet to finally determine when life begins."

      Do we need to wait for a societal consensus to catch up to what common sense should already tell us? There is no life from non-life, which is why the living sperm must fertilize the living egg. Once that happens, conception has occurred. From that moment forth, there is a living thing that begins to grow and develop.

      The members of society may choose to argue over the viability of that life, but there is no question about whether or not it is life. Of course, many abortion advocates might choose to believe that what is growing within a pregnant woman is not a living thing for the first trimester (and then suddenly becomes living without a second moment of conception), but their argument stands opposed to basic science and common sense.

      Then again, common sense is not as "common" as it used to be...

      • http://moses.vemma.com Moses

        Except that medical science has not yet perfected a way for that fertilized egg, being raised outside the womb. Until that time comes, the fertilized egg remains an object quietly growing and developing into what, during the last tri-mester, is an easily identified human being. Up to that point, the object is largely going through some pretty drastic changes as it grows and develops, yet none of those changes are, in and of themselves, life threatening. Until such time as the fertilized egg can be raised in a completely artificial setting, (ie: a mechanical womb, or something similar), I will always believe that the egg is nothing more than a parasite, but one which is not damaging to the host.
        I do believe, that in the matter of abortion, that no government should have the power, nor shoiuld any organization have the power to tell a pregnant woman what to do with her unborn child. If she wishes to carry to term, then that is her choice. If she wishes to have the unborn aborted, then that is her choice also. And until the day a Man, (Meaning the Male of the human race), actually undergoes the full nine moth period of carrying a developing egg, to fell it grow to eventually become a child; until that day happens, there is no man out there qualified to tell a woman what she can or can't do when she is pregnant.
        As for our children, they are the future of this Great Nation, and should reared in accordance with established principles, regardless as to those principals being rooted in Christianity or not. If you are a Christian parent, you should raise your children in a Christian manner. If you are a parent who worships a different religion, or bows to no religion, then how you raise your children, is your business, provided that your child, once he/she has become an adult, doesn't inflict her/his life style on those who won't accept such a life style; and the reverse is also true.
        I also don't believe in child pornography; but I am adult enough to say that, while I don't hold with it, I know it exists. I am therefore free to exercise my rights to turn away from such depictions. If some one else lies that stuff, then that is his/her descision. Just don't tell me about it; and stay the hell away from my kids, grandkids, great-grandkids, etc.

        • gray man

          Except that medical science has not yet perfected a way for that fertilized egg, being raised outside the womb.
          Irrelevant.
          I will always believe that the egg is nothing more than a parasite, but one which is not damaging to the host.
          What you "Believe" is irrelevant, what it is, is a human being at that stage of growth - no more, no less.

    • http://vigilantsociety.comule.com/ Joseph Veca

      The late Ricardo Montalbán said in a 1996 interview with Raymond Arroyo "At the moment of conception, that was I. Everything I could and will be, that was I."

      No truer words have ever been spoken.

  • Kelley

    specious humbug...who is this author? oh right...nobody...and a nobody that reaches verrrrry far to try and invent slander that isn't there. I hope you folks aren't falling for this.

  • Incredulous1

    As a member of the Libertarian Party for nearly a quarter of a century, I can tell you the Party Platform has had a contentious evolution. It is still far from perfect in many Libertarian's minds largely due to some of this author's concerns. The party is roughly split evenly over abortion but most agree the topic warrants an open and honest debate which has yet to be sponsored on a national stage. This author does point out the Libertarian aversion to legislating morality and while the author's obvious religious preclusions drive his/her political positions, it is precisely those religious tenets which Libertarians feel disrespect the freedom and intelligence of the individual. The Party is called Libertarian for a reason: we believe in Liberty and when any group, religious or otherwise, believes they know better how an individual should live his or her life, we react with righteous indignation.

  • Marie

    Da, You obviously overlook this part of the statement.
    "so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose."
    Are you so used to the government regulating everything that you can't take care of yourself? I take offense at your blind arguments. I beleive a marriage is between one man and one woman, I am also totally pro-life. I will also defend your right to have different views but, I will argue with them.

  • pearl

    I want to weigh in on a couple of these items. I think most of the issues can be resolved with the proper framing of the question. With regards to abortion, if an unborn child is determined by law to be a person, then the taking of the life is murder. It is no longer a "choice" any more than killing other children is a choice. The same can be said for all of the obscenity issues, as well as pedophilia. The fact of injury caused against innocent parties would provide the basis for law against such things, but still be in keeping with libertarian ideals, as promulgated by the founders.
    With regards to drug use, I have no issue with people choosing to use drugs even if I think it is a big mistake.This is in truth a victimless crime and I believe there would be less drug use without the huge financial incentives created by criminalization. With regards to environmental control, I believe the market provides a solution when damages to third parties can be ordered under civil law. The one issue that I think is a problem for conservatives is their utter loyalty to the notion that the government should have carte blanche regarding any power grab they wish to make to " protect" the public. I completely reject their pretensions at being able to do so. Blind faith in any government institution is the height of folly. They have no right under the Constitution to invade my home, my records, or my body and it is unAmerican to suggest that they do, for any purpose. I am sure the founders would agree.

  • pearl

    One other thing - the illegal immigration issue is a red herring. People used to come and go freely, but the law prevented them from living here illegally because they could not work or use any services paid for by taxpayers. If that were still the case, we would not have an illegal alien problem.

  • Vin P

    I'll take a Libertarian government any time I can find one! This author uses the words of the platform to try to scare people into justifying a far more restrictive government than we either need or want.

  • SEAN MURRY

    i am one of these guys who believe in personal freedom i dont want any organisation tell me how to live ,what to eat ,or tell me tovote for i take personal pride that i am a American who doesnt like the the left turds.

  • Jeremy D. Adams

    This is the most garbage post ever printed on the internet.

    What nonsense from an author who undoubtedly would see communism or nazism to "protect" people who don't actually need or want his protecting.

    Violating the age of majority strawmen was nothing less than inflammatory and ridiculous.

  • Idaho Skylines

    Legislating to control citizens based on some religious belief "for their own good" is the other side of the "taxing citizens for their own good" coin. Just another brand of progressive elitism. I am not sure if the commentator is really as ineffective a thinker he seems or is just out drumming up membership for the Libertarians. Either way it is more interesting and encouraging to read the Platform and eveyone"s comments than his drivel.

  • tomnchrist

    Libertarian is just another humanist cult type belief system, woefully inferior to the Republic founded by the Constitution, with laws and principles established upon biblical principles.

    However, it is representative with the Citizenry of this Nation being equally split between pagans and Christians. And might would work until God pulls the plug on it
    (as I think he has, and we are going dark as we speak).

  • AugusII

    GOLD IS NOT ANYTHING THAT SHINES.

    Like Obama's change to worst- Like French revolution madness You must be aware not to buy cat as rabbit. Socialists and other criminals infiltrate parties.

    SOCIALIST'S SPEECH STYLE HERE:
    "As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others."

    "HIS OR HER VALUES" FEMINAZI (NAZIFEMINIST) BISEXUAL SOCIALIST FORMULA.

    GOLD IS NOT ANYTHING THAT SHINES. http://tl.gd/dgbj68

  • Mark in LA

    Let me guess another Ron Paul hit piece by the Republican establishment slime.

  • Cait

    LOL Mark in LA I was going to write the very same thing! Apparently, Da Tagliare is a Big Gov type who enjoys even having the bureauctats telling him how to live his life. Or maybe he's just setting up his next article - how 'wonderful' Cain is.
    Ron Paul is pro-life, BTW. He was a GYN and I can't imagine him being pro child porn or pedophilia.
    Sorry, Da Tagliare, we aren't buying the kool-aid you're selling.

    • Aaron

      You can find in Ron Paul's writing that he believes the person who produced child porn would be guilty of violating that childs rights (believe it was in Liberty Defined)

  • R Stone

    This writer is sick and intentionally trying to discredit Ron Paul. Maybe this site prefers Nazi or Communist rule where there are NO freedoms. Libertarian doesn't mean you can do anything evil, it means you are allowed to do anything GOOD as long as it does not hurt others and of course there will still be laws against these things mentioned , because they hurt others.
    This is sick underhanded propaganda and just trying to make Ron Paul look weak. This little old man Ron Paul is defending and fighting for OUR freedoms for 30 years, exposing the evils in the gov and federal reserve; fighting to stop the wars and suffering caused, and the destruction of the economy. He is constantly fighting for our rights to work, to live and speak our minds without fear. I'll take that any day. Besides, does the USA now have paedafiles drugs and porn? Yes too much. So just having more liberty doesn't mean more of these. But it does mean less drug wars; less drugs captured and used by the government ; We have tried everything but real democratic ideals, the freedoms that made this country an example to the world. Right now it is only a mess.

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  • harleydavidson

    I have to admit that I did not have to read pass the first few paragraphs to say that the writer is not objective. The writer argues that individual liberty and freedom will lead to pedophilia, pornography, etc.

    The LIbertarian platforms clearly says - We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, "so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others" to live in whatever manner they choose.

    "...So long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal rights of others..." Since pedophelia interferes with the equal rights of others (in this case, children), pedophilia will not be tolerated under the Libertarian rules.

    It appears to me that the writer is trying to confuse the issue to promote his own agenda.

  • Perry S.

    To answer the question posed by the author (who ever that might be); no and no. Your neo-con roots are apparent in your comments. Just another hit piece on liberty and freedom designed to cast doubt with what I hold dear. I will not be afraid and I do not ask my country to protect me against the "boogey-man". Personal responsibility in utmost in the libertarian party creed and I'm OK with that.

  • http://r3VOLuti0n.com Jason

    I am a born again Christian. I am an independent. I like a lot of libertarian philosophy. I am also a Ron Paul supporter.

  • Cool

    There is another word for Libertarians: Anarchists. Human beings do not honor the idea of NOTentrenching on the rights of others. Sorry, but in the real world, they just don't. Therefore, we need a VERY limited government of, by, and for the people to PROTECT us from each other.

    Ah--therein lies another problem. Government--by its very nature--tends to grow over time, because legislators think that if they aren't constantly writing bills and making laws they aren't doing their jobs. So, we have hundreds of thousands of laws--far more than the Old Testament Torah gave (613). It has become a government of, by, and for the government. Conservatism trumps the silly illogic of Libertarianism, in my book.

    • http://moses.vemma.com Moses

      While Big Government trumps Conservatism. I feel there is room in this Nation for both Libertarians and Conservatives; But I don't feel we need to have those, to whom the bottom line (Profits), is the ultimate draw. This idea of continuous spending for pork barrel projects, is a product of an unsound collective mind, which is rooted in Greed, and Fear.
      Greed - because this type of spending, always leads to more money for the supporter's personal pleasure.
      Fear - because the spender is afraid of what will happen to his/her life style, if he/she ever stop spending money, especially money he/she never earned.

  • Carol Fryer

    No matter what your platform is, an evil leader and his team of corrupt men will take it and use it to destroy a nation. I wish presidents would think more before they start making stupid treaties and NAFTAs and Homeland security and so called equal rights. Need I say more. Everything you love sounds great till it get into the hands of evil people. Like a gun with no emotions. But the intent of the holder makes it deadly. Its the people. An we dont have anywhere near the checks and balances we need because these people in Washington have managed to make themselves exempt and build thrones for life, and steal us blind.

  • wfwilson

    No, that's the Democratic Party.

  • don d

    I admire the objectives stated by the libertarian , however, he ignores basic human behavior and minimizes the fact that good and evil exist in us all. no evidence is given to demonstrate that the ability exists to police ourselves for the good of mankind. Where do we start? Look in your heart.

  • James

    I have followed Ron Paul's voting record in government for like thirty years now. HE IS THE ONLY MAN IN CONGRESS WHO HAS CONSISTENTLY VOTED WITH THE LAW OF OUR NATION -- THE CONSTITUTION!! His continued, consistent actions for these many years reveal what KIND of a Liberterian he is. He sure looks a lot like our nation's Founding Fathers!

  • Joe Whitney

    The author is just plain wrong! as a Libertarian I can tell you that one of our most important ideals is personal freedom coupled with personal responsibilty.Protection of my rights without the abuse of the rights & freedon of others. This reaction to our platform indicates a certian level of fear.of what the author does not understand. Re: the issue of abortion all we are saying is that the goverment should not be involved. Since when has it become a goverment responsibility to preach morality? All we want is less goverment & more personal freedom with the understanding that no ones rights should be abused or ignored.