Ousted Generals Launch Effort To Hold Obama Accountable & Save America

Since taking office nearly five years ago, President Obama has purged our military of hundreds of senior officers in his effort to tailor a military that will openly shoot American citizens on command.  Many of these military leaders firmly believe that Obama has America on the path to destruction and is using his military to achieve that purpose.

Two retired generals are joining together to form a citizen’s commission that will scrutinize the Obama administration and how they deal with issues such as national security and economics.  Heading America’s Provisional Leadership Council is Army Gen. Paul E. Vallely and Air Force Brig. Gen. Charles Jones, both retired.  They just issued a paper titled The Americans Project where they list eight key points of their project.

Vallely told WND that The Americans Project is designed to be a citizens’ commission made up of prominent people that will monitor and scrutinize the Obama administration and then provide advice and guidance to people in both the legislative and executive branches.  He explained further that they want our nation’s leaders:

“Held to high standards of performance to solve the nation’s problems of governing. We will scrutinize and provide guidance to federally elected officials on behalf of the citizens.”

Vallely went on to explain that The Americans Project is more of a political movement than a new political party.  Their goal is get citizens to run for office as Americans first before considering which party they will affiliate first.

The group is already calling for the resignation of President Obama and most of the congressional leadership.  They want Americans to peacefully rally in every major city of the country and demand these resignations.  They plan to use grassroots organizations and social media to rally Americans to stand together to hold our leaders accountable for their actions.  The forced resignation of former President Richard Nixon is an example what can be accomplished with enough pressure is applied from the American public.

In their newly released paper, they state:

“The Americans [leadership has developed workable solutions to] help solve and fix what has without question stunted our nation’s ability to clearly, legally and peacefully function as a constitutional republic.”

“Honest, selfless political leadership is the first key to America’s economic and debt recovery and secure future for all citizens and their children.  That means voters must band together and vote for positive ‘America first’ leadership rather than self-serving greed and corruption within the two major political parties that have for decades and are now rapidly tearing the United States of America apart.”

They also discussed concerns about the drastic military cuts made by Obama and his screening of military leaders by asking if they would be willing to shoot Americans on American soil.  Other concerns raised in the paper deal with the $17 trillion debt of which Obama is responsible for $7 trillion.  Jobs, unemployment and excessive taxes are also areas that they discuss in their paper.

They not only outline problem areas, but they also offer some solutions, including abolishing the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Service.  They say that this would put an end to the massive political plundering of everyone’s wealth, large and small.  All economic functions of the federal government would be handled by the Treasury Department as it once was.  The federal government would be partially supported by sales taxes on certain items.  They claim that by eliminating income taxes, many businesses would return to the US, creating jobs in ‘great numbers’ which would create a booming economy for all.  They state:

“It is critically important for American citizens to know and understand that the United States of America cannot recover from the unsustainable manmade national debt crises unless satisfactory employment is archived for a majority of U.S. citizens and that requires the existing income tax and Federal Reserve Systems to be abolished, then changed to a greatly reduced method of funding the federal government.”

They also state that the flood of illegal immigration needs to be stopped immediately with secured fences and stiffer penalties for any employer who hires an illegal.  They also advocate that illegals would not be allowed to receive any welfare, jobs and medical services with the lone exception being emergency treatment only.  Concerning jobs, their paper states:

“American jobs are for U.S. citizens, returning military veterans, part-time high school students and the elderly.  When U.S. employers cannot find workers and can fully justify seeking foreign workers, government permission will be granted for hiring temporary foreign workers.”

Other solutions offered entail eliminating some government agencies, departments and combining others into one.  One of those departments targeted is the Department of Homeland Security which they say has grossly overstepped their powers and original purposes.  They suggest giving some of the DHS jobs to the Departments of Defense and Interior.  In speaking of the DHS, they state:

“The DHS with functions for national security and FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) for emergencies have both grown far beyond the intentions of reasonable and responsible leadership control, budgeting, manpower, equipment and facilities.”

“Deceptive political intentions for the potential use of facilities, weapons, massive purchases of ammunition plus military-type vehicles and railroad cars are greatly objectionable to American citizens and an insult to the economic deficit of the nation.”

“All weapons, munitions and military-type vehicles will be transferred to the DOD immediately.”

The group also says that they would eliminate the Department of Energy and Obamacare.

Commenting further, Vallely states:

“We are in a war for America,”

“A civil uprising is still not out of the question as ‘pain’ grips the country more each day,”

“This means raising your voice now to your neighbors, family, co-workers and friends.  Be the captains of your souls. I pray for another George Washington to appear within the year and lead us.”

“The battle is on, and we shall not retreat.”

I can already hear some of you say it’s too little too late or there is no way it will ever work.  My answer to that is you may be part of the problem because of that attitude.  Had only a few of our Founding Fathers had the same defeated attitude, we would still be singing God Save the Queen instead of the Star Spangled Banner.

If enough Americans get off their butts and get involved, we can and will take OUR country back from those that are hell bent on destroying it.


  • Knife10

    These people are advocating what conservatives have been saying for a long time: Get rid of the Federal Reserve, IRS, and Homeland Security; replace the current bunch of politicians with real representatives of the People; impeach Obama and remove him from office; and put an end to illegal immigration. Who wouldn't support objectives like that? Why radical socialists and America haters, of course.

    • Beckah

      Absolutely! Instead all we get is the GOP "making friends" with the Lefties and further selling our country down the river. I love what these men are doing, and I would very much LOVE to be a Senator and shake things up myself...unfortunately I am too old to spend decades starting with the city council, hoping to drum up enough notice to raise enough money for the next election. I for 1 would stand behind men that actually get it.

      • Knife10

        Me too. Military members swear to uphold the Constitution and to protect it (and the American people) from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I think it's time for them to step in and stop the subversive war on our country. A little Egyptian style martial law would be a good thing if it let's us get our government back from the radicals and America haters.

        • Janne Thiebaud

          What is Egyptian martial law?

        • Knife10

          Quite a few Egyptian officers were trained at our professional officer schools (Command and Staff College, et cet.) during the past thirty years. When they removed Marsi and his gang of thugs from office, they were acting on behalf of the people who were opposed to muslim brotherhood and radical islamic rule. The military imposed an interim martial (military) government until another election could be held, hopefully one that would put a better government of, by, and for the people there in office. That's the way I see their "peaceful" revolution and what I think is needed in our own country. The democratic communist party needs to be outlawed here like the muslim brotherhood was there. There is no other way to restore our constitutional republic.

        • OldArmy67

          Bust anybody's head who is the opposition or gets in the way

        • 1Reddevil

          Follow the Russian example that is being set to deal with Islamic Muslims. Eradicate them.

      • lilolady

        I think that all our people in Congress know something that we don't know, and it doesn't look good for our side. They ALL have to go, and must be hounded out of any other office or job they are rewarded with. They are not fit for anything once they have done what they could to destroy this Nation from the inside out,

        • Beckah

          And of course the bright side is that we get to pay them for life!

        • lilolady

          Not if they are prosecuted for the fraud, criminal charges,
          corroboration to commit fraud, and failure to uphold their oaths of office, failure to protect our borders, aiding and abetting our enemies both foreign and domestic. Who needs enemies when these people are making our laws and using our money to buy influence and line their pockets.

      • Janne Thiebaud

        AMEN!! Old or not, we can do our bit, any way we can. :)

      • worldwatchers

        There was great deceit in your statement Beckah !! I do believe that you stirred the cauldron of chaos.

        • Beckah

          What exactly do you mean "deceit"? I hope I did stir the cauldron, our beloved country is in desperate need of help to keep it the most fantastic country on earth!

        • worldwatchers

          There is no truth in your statement The only hope for this country is for the Republicans to take control of the Senate along with the House to prevent Obama from completely destroying this Nation under God

        • Beckah

          My statement is 100% truthful! The GOP is only slightly better (philosophy only). They are all greedy and once in office, follow "lock-step" in line with those that got there before them. Their only concern is to get re-elected so they don't have to give up "the good life" they make on the backs of the citizens of this country.
          We are in desperate need of real reform, to go back to our "roots" and make this country what it once was, without career politicians and continual government oversight and over-reach.

          I don't see where you think ANYTHING I have said is not true.

        • worldwatchers

          Perhaps I have more faith in the American people then you do
          I'm not sure what angle you are coming from if you're coming from it doesn't matter that both parties are the same I would have to disagree with you. If we do happen to have elections in 2014 it is essential that the Republicans/libertarians/tea party whatever you want to call them unite to take control of both houses of Congress. To be truthful I'm not sure he will allow it to go that far the last election was stolen some precincts had over 100% participation in the ballots many minority bragged about how they had voted to or three times they were taking a round by buses two different precincts. Also from 2010 there were no tea parties that were given permission to do what all parties have always been allowed to do the IRS is extremely corrupt a massive overhaul is needed in all departments of this government the department of justice have already said they will not prosecute cases of black upon white crime. I've seen these people before the enemies that fight America today are the enemies that's fought America throughout the Vietnam war as well as
          the revolutions in South and Central America.
          I remember coming home from Vietnam being told when you leave the base don't converse with people have the throw all my military gear away as the crowds spit upon us calling us very vile names The very teachers and students now control this government .They have the same black eyes full of hate !
          glad I at least the veterans are treated with some sort of respect at this time
          in our history. This is written with the assistance of my Dragon

        • Beckah

          From the bottom of my heart, thank you for your service. It makes me sick that those things happened here to you heros.

          I do believe you have more faith than I do. The corruption in our society now makes me doubt any election will ever be "fair and honest". However, I do stand by my statements, the GOP seems content to fight with each other instead of realizing the real fight is against the "progressives".

        • 1Reddevil

          We need a Senate And Congress made up of Ted Cruz Rand Paul and others who believe in the Constitution . Get rid of all of the Rhino's.

    • Janne Thiebaud

      Add FEMA to that list, but otherwise you have hit the solutions right on the head. The opposition to the solutions is also dead on, which makes you wonder about those people. Are they really opposed to Freedom, or is it a case of those people having more freedom than they can handle?

      • Knife10

        I think a lot of people are confused about social programs and socialism. Most social programs were begun for legitimate reasons. There are problems in every society that really need solutions, so programs like social security and welfare for the poor begun by charitable organizations and philanthropists were taken over by government, often through the efforts of well organized "progressives" or "liberals" who used methods proposed by Marx, Engels, and others. "Free" public education is another example of a service where government has replaced private and religious sponsored schools. There is nothing wrong with social programs that meet legitimate needs; however, there are always individuals and groups of people who find ways to use something good for their own purposes. That's where the fascists, socialists, communists, and yes the robber baron capitalists begin to cause problems. They aren't good Samaritans. They are greedy opportunists whose objective is to control the reins of power entrusted to government by the people. Benevolence and liberty have no place in their agenda other than to garner support of the unwary public.

        • lilolady

          Well said.

  • JT

    It is past time to cleanse Congress of millionaire lawyers and elect regular, honest , patriotic Americans.

    • JohnC3Freeport

      We also need strong term limits.

    • Janne Thiebaud

      It is to late for that sadly, but I WISH that had occurred a long time ago.

  • http://cia.americanspecialops.com/air-branch/ NASA

    What are two retired Generals going to do....call the administration names and send him scathing letters?

    Until congress or the people move against The Liar and Chief, it's just more talk. You can pretty much rule out congress...especially the wimp republicans.

    The administration has been scrutinized over and over again with the same conclusion...it's a dishonest, dysfunctional broken system that needs to be removed.

    • ipsd48

      It isn't the 'system; that's broken. It's the people IN the system that are intentionally breaking it

      • $2398599

        It's the 51 % that keep voting for " FREEBIES" that are to blame mostly.,

        • Janne Thiebaud

          While you are technically right, and it is the fault of those entitlement minded people and the illegals, the bleeding hearts and racially obsessed black people, who voted Obama back in, and the liberal regime behind him, I would like to think they already know that they have stuffed up BADLY, and are already aware of their own culpability. If they don't already know, they will soon find out that they are considered NO different from anyone else, when foreign guns start blazing on their own streets, or they are filling up the FEMA camps. It is time now to stop the blame game and UNITE to defeat this cancer that is eating America away, rapidly now, and find ways to defeat it once and for all. That is what these General's are trying to do, and they need the support of every American to do it.

    • UnderGodNotGovt

      They sre going to do what they were born to do- lead. I'm in.

    • Screeminmeeme

      I know they have been traveling throughout the country speaking to large groups and encouraging citizens to get involved by demanding that their representatives and senators do what they were elected to do. And as generals, they do have a degree of influence that others don't have....which means more might be willing to listen.

  • Proudamerican

    God Bless these officers. All military personnel take an oath to protect their country against all enemies both foreign and domestic and there is no expiration date on that oath. That is exactly what these men are doing and that is why oblama wanted them gone-they simply do not fit in with the new communist government.

    • Janne Thiebaud

      AMEN!!

  • fwiw

    When ex-generals (plural) start to say "something's wrong", maybe we should re-evaluate.

  • JohnC3Freeport

    What we need now is for all the militias and the Military to rise up, storm Washington and remove this administration. They must be put on a Military trial for treason. When found guilty, the whole administration should be put before a firing squad, and shot. TRAITORS, all of them!

    • Janne Thiebaud

      While I LOVE this idea lol, it is NOT practical and could not be organised in time to stop THEM from shooting every one of you. Apart from the Militia's and current Military, America is FULL of ex serving military people, as well as ex CIA, FBI and a bunch of other "initialism" type organisations, with vital skills to help American's take back their country. Organisation (from the top) lead by these General's, and filtered down through disciplined and capable organisations/groups, has a far more realistic chance of success. Let's hope they can achieve everything they are wanting to, because if they don't, America is done!

  • arbitrage
    • lilolady

      Right .....

  • M. Fazio

    Obonzo is doing everything he could to have the Military rise up against him and start a coup. I always thought that a Coup in America would never happen. But lately, I wish it would, this would be the jump Start to Take over of America by it's Citizens. The Military is a Citizenry Military. The first stop would be a take over of the Media and shoot the Marxist in the Media. We don't need those Jerks. Then an Impeachment and Imprisonment of the President and Vice President. Dismantle the Congress, and let those who have supported the Military stay in and an immediately Elections of real NON CAREER Politicians and Judges. Just 2 terms for everyone. No more. The only loop hole will be 2 terms as a Representative, and 1 term as a Senator or vice versa. But they all get 4 years, no more 6 year Senator. No Socialist (That's Communism for those of who are "DEAD" ABOVE THE SHOULDER VOTER) Ideas. No more ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSINGS, once, you are sent home to Mexico, second time, you are sent to a prison on or next to the border, making them wish they never crossed over the second time. ROUND UP all ILLEGALS and their Anchor Babies, and send them back! Abolish the ACLU (American Communist Liberal Union) and their STUPID LAWSUITS. The stop of the 2 party System. let there be 3 to 5 parties, to pas laws. If there is a Stale mate, put it to the citizens to make the laws. The races will get along or get out, ship them to a place where they can be racist all they want but they would have to learn to live together or suffer the the ILLS of such a place. The Supreme Court won't a Life time post, it will be a 2 term position of 4 years each And last, get the money out (the Super PACs) of Washington that influences the politician. Caught taking money, life time in Prison. Now if we had all these things in tack today, we would have a Country that would be less corrupt, because Corruption won't be tolerated.

    • Marty

      Never going to happen... Remember the Golden Rule....
      He who holds the gold makes the rules.
      (And controls the government.)

      • M. Fazio

        Tell that to Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette.

        • Pablo Descartes

          ...

        • M. Fazio

          No Thank You. I will let Ted Cruz do that.

  • Karen169

    This is the very thing Obama has feared. If you notice not only did he oust officers who have disagreed with him but also some of our top soldiers have mysteriously been killed. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  • 1baronrichsnot1

    And stop the stupid foriegn policy being perpretated "on" the world! Control nukes! Don't do deep knee bends to every Iranian, sheik, moulah, or brotherhood puke you see!
    Let's all get behind these gentlemen, hit their website and begin immediately with our demands!

  • Hotnike

    I'm in.

  • navyvet1986

    Generals, "in general", embody patriotism, bravery, leadership, commitment, honor...and all that is urgently needed today if we are to return to our normal American lifestyle, which was terribly and purposely destroyed by the current political ideologists. Let's go, Generals! My hands are ready. Standing by for muster. Where's the formation at?

    • Stephanie

      I agree, where is the formation? We would like spcific ideas on how to go about helping...

      • navyvet1986

        I'm hoping this is a legit project with a serious intention to get back our country. I'm skeptical about the dirty tricks the dems use: divide and conquer. With tactics like these, they may dissolve the conservative vote to guarantee their defeat. Be careful Generals, get our country back, but run with, not against true conservative patriots.

        • Stephanie

          I understand your skepticism navyvet, my husband is an armyvet. I am skeptical too, especially about posting anything online, but its not about hate or revenge, it is about getting our constitutional America back.

        • navyvet1986

          Absolutely. It's not about "hate or revenge". We all know what's the future of nations that deviate from true democracy, which is based on what our founding fathers established, and which made the best and fairest Constitution on this planet. I've lived around the globe, and I myself came from another country to be a US citizen, and I can't hold a higher pride and appreciation for the USA. I long to see it again the way it was when I was welcomed by President Reagan.

        • Malcontent2

          Our founding fathers were very clear about having created a ‘Republic’
          and NOT a democracy (thug rule / oligarchy). Obama, his Regime, and even some who claim to be on the Right consistently lie and claim that the U.S. is a
          democracy. Though the Obama Regime illegally ‘rule over us’ as though we are --
          we are not now, nor have we ever been a democracy. We are a Republic and
          specifically a Constitutional Republic. “ I pledge Allegiance to the Republic for which it stands…”.

          A Republic…if you can keep it. ~ Benjamin Franklin ~

        • navyvet1986

          You're correct in that we're no longer a democracy per se. Our government is supposed to be elected by the people (demos=people, gr). But, given the overwhelming, albeit under reported evidence, our current government WAS NOT elected by the 'demos'. It's more honorable to accept that it was obtained by massive fraud. The results speak for themselves. And now, the entire country is having intense labor pains; the product is coming in a breech presentation, and is suffering from hypoxia. An emergency 'C' section is necessary. Those Generals may be the needed surgeons, answering the Nation's call. To great evils, great remedies.

        • lilolady

          care must be taken . Obama has an executive order to prevent the IRS from allowing exempt tax status to any organization that opposes HIM.

        • Janne Thiebaud

          None of that will matter very soon, so forget it, and start doing what you NEED to, to save your country!

        • Patricia

          What can I do except mouth off on here? Everything seems so futile. I have lost friends on face book because I stand up and say what I think, even staunch Republicans, because they say it doesn't do any good and it just gets people "upset." I am 78 years old and I am plenty upset and I think we all SHOULD be plenty upset enough to do something about it!! But what can we do? .

        • Malcontent2

          The United States has never been a democracy: it was
          founded as a Republic. Obama and his Regime are trying their damnedest to ‘rule’ the U.S. as a democracy (thug rule/oligarchy) though and non one is stopping them. The press and political pundits are too damn dumb (or frightened) to call him out every time he claims the U.S.
          is a democracy. And he claims that we are a lot. He’s purposely ‘conditioning
          the public’ with his use of words. Understand? Unfortunately, most people don’t even know the difference between a democracy and a republic and that in itself will cause their and our Republic’s demise.

          I don’t know what it will take for Patriots to rise up and stop
          the Marxist Obama Regime, but we cannot wait one more day.

        • Janne Thiebaud

          I understand what you are trying to say here BUT Democracies are NOT Marxist, Fascist, Communist or any other sort of "ist"! You ARE correct in calling Obama a Marxist, although I think what might be far more accurate is to call him and his regime, FASCIST. He WILL establish a full blown Fascist government and control very soon, if he is not stopped. He is a train totally out of control right now, and America is running out of time to stop the train.

        • Janne Thiebaud

          AMEN!!

        • OldArmy67

          Hey Navyvet1986. Welcome to The United States of America formerly a Democratic Republic...big difference from a Democracy. From where in the world do you hale. We need folks like you.

        • navyvet1986

          Haha. Good clarification, OldArmy. I don't even think the party of the Ass knows what "demos" mean. I came from México, and, like we say in Texas, "I got here as fast as I could". Proud to be an American (by choice) and standing by to her defense...again!

        • Janne Thiebaud

          NOPE, you are no longer a Republic in case you have not noticed..you are almost a full blown Fascist state, run by a fascist leadership on BOTH sides of politics. I truly believe that Obama will get passed into law, unending terms for the Presidency, and the Republicans WILL AGREE!! If not, then he will simply have NO more elections and declare himself the (fascist) Dictator of the NEW America. The American people ARE OUT OF TIME to get off their lazy arses and DO SOMETHING proactive to stop him!

        • lilolady

          This is something we have known for years, some of us. He has a way of telegraphing his views and daring anyone to do a thing about it. A new kind of leader, and apparently none of us know how to deal with anyone who will stand toe to toe against him. Actually, HE is a Bully. Every Father here knows what to do with a bully.

        • Janne Thiebaud

          Get out there and do something about it. Finding the address of one of these Generals and writing to them might be a good start.

        • Janne Thiebaud

          What are YOU doing to achieve that?

        • Stephanie Swertfeger Haggart

          Right now, trying to gather information as to what I can concretely do. I would love to firm a group in the greater Tampa Bay FL area, but am not sure how to do that. That is why I am here. I am at stage 1 of the "doing something" part. Looking for concrete ways, maybe ideas from those more experienced in "doing".

        • OldArmy67

          Post an add in your local paper. " All Concerned Veterans and Citizens. We are starting a Patriot Organization to take back our Nation. Be careful. They did here. Cecil County Patriots, Cecil County MD. Only the next step to be taken is 1)Organize into squads, platoons and companies. Call out retired military officers and ncos to help you do that. Drill without weapons. Close order drill.etc. Take it from there. Sounds like a pipe dream. Well it is not. Look what happened 230 some years ago on Concord Green. We lost Bunker Hill only due to fat, stupid, incompetent political generals. What did General Howe say. One more victory like this and we loose the war.

        • lilolady

          I sounds like a business opportunity, but what do I know?More information is essential. He is asking for the Generals to contact him. He is going to have to show his creds.

        • OldArmy67

          His credentials are impecable. Go to his web site Stand Up USA
          I know I can't spell. Where is spell check here?

        • lilolady

          I was speaking of greenhouse farms' business opportunity.Do you know of greenhouse farms personally or were you speaking of the two generals? I know their credentials are impeccable.

        • Janne Thiebaud

          Are you for real???? These men are puting everything on the line, including the safety of themselves and their families, and you are suspicious of their motives?? It IS people like you who ARE a HUGE part of the problem...they have made it CLEAR that they have NO political affiliation, and I doubt they would be impressed with YOU telling them what they should do, and with whom! Who do you trust when you cannot trust anyone else? Especially the Dems and Repubs?? Your country is about to be destroyed, so you better soon choose who you WILL trust, and what YOU are prepared to offer to SAVE your country and your own family!

        • OldArmy67

          Janne,
          Please read my reply to navyvet1986 above.

        • OldArmy67

          General Vallely lost his only son in Iraq. You can not find a more honest and staunch patriot anywhere. I am a member of the Sons of The American Revolution. From 2 Feb 1777 to todate my family has fought for this country in every major and minor wars. I am totally disgusted with the SAR for not having the MORAL COURAGE to speak out on what is happening to our Nation. After all the SAR is based on what our ancestors did from 1775 to 1783. They just sit on their behinds and do nothing. Old men telling war stories.

        • navyvet1986

          Thanks for the share, OldArmy. Having been comforted by your words, I'd consider an honor to obey the orders of patriots like the Gen. Vallely you described.

        • lilolady

          As a Member in good standing of the SAR, write an open letter to your local newspaper, but, as you said times have changed and young new members are not joiners and have forgotten, if they every took seriously, what their ancestors sacrificed for this nation.

        • OldArmy67

          I have been a SAR member since 23 Feb 2007. Almost Exactly 200 years from the date my ancestor joined the 1st New Jersey Line. He joined 7 FEB 1777. It is not the new recruits to the organization.. it is the OLD GUARD. I have protested our inactivity to the State Organization to no avail. Look at as a trouble maker. They will think differently when DHS comes to arrest them for beint a member of a illegal organization. Patriotic. I was chapter president for four years. Me and one other member exhausted our selves trying to get the chapter to move forward. Eagle Scout Certificates, speaking to grade school children, recruiting drives.annual dinners, the whole nine yards. Like I said, Old men telling war stories. I had doctors, judges, lawyers, etc. All to no avail.
          Did you know only 3% of the population of the Colonies supported the War for Independence? We need to start meeting every Saturday morning at 07:30 on the Village Green to 1) Organize (This is where NCOs and good PVTs come in) 2) Drill (again NCOs etc) 3) Weapon qualify(got to be careful here) 4) then let the Feds come to Concord.

      • Harry Vandoloski

        In my opinion...The formation is in our back yard. We are each
        responsible for our own area. Get on the Street corners and overpasses.
        Hold signs to raise public awareness and keep the focus... "who ordered
        stand down in Benghazi and why" "Honor the constitution" "Impeach Obama"
        "eliminate NSA" Etc, Etc. Any who can't rally in this formation aren't likely to make a more serious one if ever needed. There is too much talk about "some body should do something" and too much talk about violent overthrow. Those who dream of that would have us all wiped out in 5 minutes unless the whole country and the military was behind them. Hold some signs, make some noise and do it with a smile and thumbs up because the whole country is watching and evaluating what they think of the Patriot movement and acting ornery pushes away support from the general public. You can find others in your area by looking for "oathkeepers" or "overpasses group" or "constitution group "patriots" etc. Don't just message each other...become visual in a positive effort............

        • Janne Thiebaud

          Hopefully none of that passive demonstration can hurt Harry, but I do believe you are way beyond that having any power. Locals DO NEED to group, get as MANY trained ex military in their ranks, and start training the general populace. The government is about to use the most extreme and VILE violence against its own people, it will make your head spin if you are not prepared to FIGHT back, and with a vengeance. If he nukes you, then you won't have to worry about that.

    • Janne Thiebaud

      Totally agree, however, you might want to watch Kowalski and Weinstein in Washington, who have replaced those Obama purged, and they ARE YES men, and WILL DO as Obama commands.

  • jong

    Of course we run into a major problem here. Nixon for all his faults cared about this country in my belief and what did and what was going to happen to it. He resigned as a proof of this argument. Obama on the other hand does not give a tinkers dam about what might happen. His thought is the more damage the better.

    • Janne Thiebaud

      You also speak the truth. While Nixon was also a Bilderberger, when he realised their agenda, he DID LEAVE the group, and spoke out against them.

  • Chuck

    How do I sign up. Finally, some backbone from general officers. If one remembers the "Admiral's Revolt many years ago, they put the country's defense posture above personal careers. Although these guys are retired, they are right on in their critical review of the current "regime." Past Presidents had serious moral and personal faults. But, they were to the man, patriots. The current inhabitant of the W.H. is no patriot. I would give anything to see his college applications (what name did he use?) and transcripts. What is he hiding? But, if you call him a liar, which he is, you are branded a racist. B.S. As an adherent of MLK,, it is character, not skin color that counts.

    • Janne Thiebaud

      True, but sadly you give former Presidents to much credit. Bush junior and senior are just as much at fault as anyone else. There has been only one president in modern times that was a TRUE Patriot, and no ones puppet, and that was Kennedy. I used to think Reagan was also a good guy, but realise now he was as bad as the rest. Regardless of party affiliation, they are/were ALL Bildebergers, and therefore the ENEMY to the entire world, but especially America.

  • USARetired

    And if they should need any assistance from this SGM, retired, I am available!

  • FlyerVic

    I am a retired Army officer. How and where can I sign up?

    • $2398599

      We are many.

      • OldArmy67

        Ditto

  • Screeminmeeme

    Praise God! We've been praying that God would raise up patriots of integrity who would fight for America. They need our prayers because you can bet that Obama and his henchmen will be after these guys night and day. I know they are traveling all over the country, speaking to citizens and encouraging them to get involved.

    • Janne Thiebaud

      Now all those citizens NEED to do, IS get involved, and not sit on their lazy butts and expect these people to bail them out of every situation. It is wonderful to see the retired high ranking military providing some leadership, their credibility will encourage other ex military to join their ranks, Officers and Enlisted alike, their experience and training is going to be invaluable to saving America from what is coming. I pray constantly for my American brothers and sisters from Tasmania. May God empower you all to defeat the plans of the Obama administration and the Republicans, most of whom support Obama's decisions, from destroying the great USA, and all the GOOD that it has ever stood for.

  • $2398599

    HOW...may I help?

  • monacall

    Please tell me where to report!

  • evergreenfarms82

    I would like personally to talk to Gens. Jones & Valley about a project they will have much interest in. It 'Counters' the destructive course Obama is taking our Nation but more important it addresses real problems humanity faces which are more serious than those created and propagated by a 'Fraudulent President'. It puts action to the warning words of many. Generals are good at the Action Part. I promise, this is all positive action where all the people, coast to coast, win without Govt. involvement. Nine years of R&D is ready to implement.

    • Pablo Descartes

      The political system is corrupted, the Constitution subverted.
      We the People are seeking leadership to take America back, to the Constitution and the intent of our Founding Fathers.

      • evergreenfarms82

        PABLO - I could not agree with you more. That's why I'm trying to meet with Military VIP. I have the vehicle they are the 'Drivers'. I need all the retired Vets they can muster to help make this work. You are welcome to join us.

        Any and all, If you are reading and following this and want to join in our rescue mission send your first name, skill set, and zip code. There is a place for everyone in what you will soon learn about. Read my response to Janne above to understand why I can't share 'What' I am talking about just yet. I'll put you in my Data Base and when I announce 'Formation' you can formally signup if you so desire.

        It's people like you and Janne who will save our Nation as we come together in total unanimity (Ron, that's a Big Word for an old Geologist).

        • RonMar

          Please stop posting and get that mental health check up. You are exposing yourself as an egotistical fool on a worldwide-available, public site.
          I expect to be near your location soon. Perhaps you can come see me, whisper your grand plan to me, and I can do some counseling with you and refer you to a full-time psychologist or psychiatrist.
          The least you can do if you want any credibility here except with idiots is to share your military experience, in combat preferably, in broad terms.
          So far as a "geologist" you are digging a big hole for yourself.

    • RonMar

      Maybe you ought to get Gen. Vallely's name right first and learn how to use the English language properly. Right now you have zero credibility.

      • evergreenfarms82

        I'm a Geologist / Project Mngr. not a linguist or word smith. Sorry you are offended but do you want to play in the game?

        • RonMar

          I am not offended. It's not a game. No matter what you claim you are you should be able to get a person's name right and to use the English language properly.
          What exactly do you mean by your question to me - "do you want to play in the game." If you can clarify your question, its and your intent in asking it I might answer you.
          I suggest you lower your ego and sense of self-importance a few notches. It is a turn off.

        • Janne Thiebaud

          WTG Ron, you have this innate ability to be a MAJOR turn off, and it is apparent that you cannot see it. The "game" is obvious to anyone else not as "pedantic" as you, and that will make you no friends, or answer any of your questions either. If you, as an adult, cannot yet read between "lines", then I am not about to explain the obvious to you, and I hope 'evergreen' doesn't either.

          I have NO idea what 'evergreen' can bring to the table of the General's, so I hope he finds either an email or real address where he can communicate with them directly, as they are very unlikely to read this thread. That being said, it is irrelevant whether YOU think his "idea" has merit or not, as you will NOT be the one evaluating it. At least he is trying to do something. What are YOU doing about stopping your countries future demise? I can assure you that when the SHTF, the LAST thing you will be worrying about is someone's poor spelling, or sentence construction!! YOUR ego and self importance is really offensive!

        • evergreenfarms82

          Janne - Bless your heart dear. I've had few people join me in my quest much less defend this old country boy. I'm not being presumptuous thinking you are or are not in agreement with my offering because If you play Chess you will understand the importance of 'the element of strategic surprise'. My desire is to meet with those who can understand my technology and how it can be used to win not just a battle but the war (game) we are in to save our Nation. A couple of experienced Military Generals fit that bill better than one who is over educated in Linguistics. I've had other critics who get caught up in what I call the 'Art of'Proper' (like my Sister in Law) and our friend Ron who may be far superior in English Grammar but as you say, where is his Action Plan to save our Constitutional Republic?

          Unfortunately, Obama has gifted speech writers and excellent delivery as well as a brilliant strategy to first destroy and then recreate our Nation as a Sharia Socialist State using our Tax Dollars to accomplish his objective. At the age of 72 I am no longer distracted by perfectionist but am driven by God's call for me to Rescue those at risk. At the moment, around the world, that is all non Muslim (Infidels).

          Thanks again Janee (I misspelled your name on purpose so Ron would have something to do) for coming to my defense. You will be the first I communicate with when I make contact with the Generals. Blessings Dear.

        • Dr Boom

          You don't have perfect grammar or spelling either. Maybe you should lower your ego a few notches. It is more so a turn off. And very little came up when clicking on your Discus (OMG they spelled it wrong! ) profile. Guess your time was for nought.

        • RonMar

          My "time was [not] for nought [variant spelling of naught dealing with numbers, specifically zero=the value of your half-vast opinions which you mistakenly imagine in your egoism mean anything to me]." There is a Disqus Profile there.
          Where is your profile "Dr?" Are you really some kind of doctor, of "Boom?" What does that mean, or is it just one of the made up, childish user names people use online?
          No, "they" did not spell Disqus wrong; you did. It is their site, named Disqus. Du-uh.
          Talk about a turn off. Your whole post reveals your ignorance going to stupidity and a massive ego, unfounded in any reality, newbie poster.

        • OldArmy67

          Evergreen,
          Bring up the website for Stand Up America. You can leave Generals Vallely and Jones messages there. I have been with Stand Up America for several years.

        • evergreenfarms82

          Old Army - Thank you, Thank you, thank you. I will certainly visit 'Stand Up America' and not only initiate a connection but determine how I too can join your organization. What State and City do you live in? I need affiliations in the DFW area. Were you a ranking officer in the Military? My Rescue Initiative needs leadership in all 50 states near larger Metro areas. Thanks again for the connection. Fred H.

          Ron M., Thanks for catalyzing Janne Thiebaud. Isn't she great!!

        • OldArmy67

          Fred,
          Yes I was a ranking officer in the Army. Medical Service Corps. Served 23 years between the Army and USPHS. I told you wrong on the web site. Brain out of gear. It is Stand Up USA. Poke around in it and you will be very pleased at what you will find. You are right we need to start this at the grass roots level. I live in the Socialist Soviet Republic of Maryland. You think I am kidding? This state is more Socialist than the former colony of the USSR, Georgia. We are the last town in Maryland before Delaware another Socialist Soviet Republic...LOL

        • evergreenfarms82

          OldArmy67 - I think I saw in one of your comments that you too are 72. Doesn't matter. If I have a good visit with Gen. Vallely, can I call on you to help organize our initiative in Maryland. The last thing Obama wants to see is 'Organized Christianity' rescuing those 'At Risk' across our land to prepare all people for real disaster. Obama is self made disaster we can invalidate if he doesn't destroy himself first. Sunni and Shiite are killing each other all over the world like a bad virus killing all organisms indiscriminately. It's time to awaken the Christian Host in America to repeal and/or nullify the Sunni Virus invading the Free World.

        • OldArmy67

          Sorry I should have said General Vallely's website is Stand Up USA.
          Google it and it will come right up. Poke around. You will be very pleased what you find.

      • Janne Thiebaud

        Ron, that was an unnecessary comments and only goes to show just how little you are thinking about the problems overtaking your country right now, via a Dictatorship, that has already shredded the Constitution and your Bill of Rights. DO you think all people with great ideas are great spellers? As you are clearly a HUGE part of the problem, you are also devoid of ANY credibility. Do not confuse the Patriots who WANT to help America, with the SHEEP who have no idea, and wait for everyone else to help THEM!

        • RonMar

          Janne, this replies to both of your silly posts.
          You could not be more wrong if you tried, but you are entitled to your half-vast opinions. I have supported and defended your freedoms and rights in the US Constitution and intend to continue doing so in combat as necessary.
          What have you done, are you doing other than attacking the wrong person?
          Anyone who wants to have any credibility with me will get people's names right and show some care in their writing and posting rather than doing it sloppily, revealing a sloppy mind. I'll give you credit for having heard of spell check, but your posting is no better than his in use of the English language, e.g., "that was an unnecessary comments."
          You need to think a little bit first before being so quick to post online.
          I took the time and effort to write and post a Disqus Profile. Read it please before posting to me again. That's the least you can do.

    • jimshaw54

      If you have a good plan how about letting the people know what it is? If you don't who will believe you?

      • evergreenfarms82

        Jim - In time. As in a game of Chess, don't reveal your strategy until you are able to position and implement. My goal is to meet with VIP Military Guys who understand Strategic Planning, can muster desired resources and vets, and implement an action plan to accomplish specific objectives. When we are to that point, you and many others will have opportunity to get on board. I'm asking all who may want to participate, send your First Name, Skill Set, and ZIP code to [email protected] so we can develop a resource pool by area. Jim, if you are retired military of higher rank, please so inform. Thanks, Fred H.

        • RonMar

          Fred, you really imagine you have anything to offer highly-trained, experienced, educated, skilled senior military members - officers or enlisted - and that anyone but idiots will send their personal information to the e-mail address you posted, while you will not even give a hint as to your grand plan. LOL.
          Have you had a mental health check up recently?

        • evergreenfarms82

          Ron - Good to hear from you. Thought I had lost my motivation to pursue this. You and Obama are masters at divide and conquer. Talking about a Health Check Up, I can't afford it even if were avail through Obamacare. I currently have three young men living at my farm whom I have rescued from the streets and provided safe haven. Each have a serious Mental Disorder and yes family and friends think I have a mental problem rescuing 'At Risk Kids' like this at my age. Actually it's a matter of the heart. Ron, are you Christian? Not that it matters re. the survival of our nation but the more true USA Patriots who come together in common cause to save our Christian Nation the sooner we can assure it's survival. I and many others are taking the 'Bait' offered by a couple of these Patriots who have had leadership positions and jobs to assure our Constitution and all American Citizens, including you, are protected and honored. One of our staunches supporters is an Australian named Janne. I believe yawl (def. the two of you) have met.

          FYI, If you were an unjustly Rifted General from one of our Military Branches I would invite you to our meeting. Others are also curious but you appear to be the only one who feels left out. Be patient.

          Oh, BTW Ron, I've embedded several misspellings and grammatical errors in the above for your discovery. Maybe Janne can find a good CrossWord Puzzle for you in Tasmania. Have a Great Day.

        • RonMar

          You really expect me to believe this - "Good to hear from you." LOL.
          You really do need a mental health check up, and you most certainly can afford it far better than the alternative. Call law enforcement and tell them you are a danger to yourself and others. They will take you in for evaluation and treatment, then release if you can be released rather than stay for long-term care.
          You are living on false assumptions and lies you tell yourself first, e.g.:
          1. "You and Obama are masters at divide and conquer." - I am nothing like Obama, and it is willfully ignorant going to stupid of you to say so.
          2. "I currently have three young men living at my farm whom I have rescued from the streets and provided safe haven." - The state will take them for care when they pick you up for your psych eval and treatment.
          3. "yes family and friends think I have a mental problem." - Of course I am not surprised.
          4. "Ron, are you Christian." - For at least the second time read my profile (RMP), or get someone who can to read an explain it to you.
          5. "the more true USA Patriots who come together in common cause to save our Christian Nation the sooner we can assure it's survival." - You are boring me near to tears with your pontificating on things I have known for a long time, and you are in part wrong. The US is not now, has never been and not likely ever to be a "Christian Nation." The US was founded based on Judeo-Christian principles found mostly in the Bible, but is not a Christian nation. "RMP, or ...."
          6. "I and many others are taking the 'Bait' offered by a couple of these Patriots who have had leadership positions and jobs to assure our Constitution and all American Citizens, including you, are protected and honored." - "RMP, or ...."
          7. "One of our staunches (sic) supporters is an Australian named Janne." - Two whom are you referring as "our?"
          8. "I believe yawl (def. the two of you) have met." - "RMP, or ...." FYI, like most honorable, retired military officers and many enlisted people, I am a son of the South - born and raised, currently living now.
          9. "FYI, If you were an unjustly Rifted (sic) General from one of our Military Branches I would invite you to our meeting. Others are also curious but you appear to be the only one who feels left out. Be patient." - This is one of your more ridiculous remarks in all of its aspects. Patience has nothing to do with any of this. We are not setting the time schedule; your buddy Obama is. I certainly don't feel left out; I opt out, away from a nutcase like you by choice.
          I can read the thread and know what others are saying, thus likely doing.
          Let me know how your invitation-only meeting turns out or never mind if it makes the news as I expect it will of your arrest and/or disappearance.
          10. "Oh, BTW Ron, I've embedded several misspellings and grammatical errors in
          the above for your discovery." - How childish of you playing games at such a deadly serious time as this. You are proving yourself to be quite an idiot.
          11. "Maybe Janne can find a good CrossWord Puzzle for you in Tasmania. Have a Great Day." - You are far more likely than I am to need crossword puzzles from Tasmania given where you are likely going to be spending lots of quiet time soon.
          12. I don't want or need anything from Janne, tyvm.
          Your game playing is so transparent to me because this is far from my first rodeo as real Texans say. You babbled on an on nonsensically again and avoided answering about your own military training, experience especially in combat, education, or your "grand plan."
          I am not interested in hearing anything more from you about anything other than these two things: your own military training, experience especially in combat, education, or your "grand plan."
          In other words GFY-F=Forgive, and a smart guy like you babbling about Christians and Christianity ought to be able to figure out the rest of it.

    • Areminder

      I know that Gen. Vlalley is very active in both Oath Keepers and Patriots for America, why not look up their web sites and post these comments?

      • evergreenfarms82

        Thanks Areminder - I will follow your suggestions. Fred

  • evergreenfarms82

    General Valley and /or Jones, I am in the DFW Area of Texas. If you are curious about my offering and take me just a little bit serious, what I bring to the table will get many people off their Butts for more reasons than one. You need an 'Action Plan' with a 'Critical Path' to muster the Patriots in our Land to get involved in building real, on the ground projects, that will benefit the general populace of an area, in good times and bad, perpetually, for years to come. Not only will this stimulate local economies and employee a lot of people, each can significantly reduce our debt crises especially if we can encourage a regime change in Washington. How many Vets can you muster to help take it across our land?

    You asked for it. Well, here it is. Fellow Patriots, tell the Generals to give me an hour of their time before we loose the opportunity. I'm ready, are they?

  • lilolady

    This is refreshing to hear someone from the military actually speaking up. We need people of that caliber involved in our Constitutional Conservative Tea Party actively. I do hope and trust that others will join their voices to yours.
    Especially those who took the heat when the president blamed them for his major screw ups.

    • Janne Thiebaud

      I want to see this group of people stay OUTSIDE of ANY political group, including the Tea Party. The dual party system is what got America in this mess, so we need NOT return to them in any way, period. I want to see a fresh, clean, honest, viable alternative to both the republicans and the democrats, with solutions that WILL WORK, and these men seem to have that.

      • lilolady

        I hope I didn't leave the Idea that the Constitutional Conservative Tea Party is a Political Party! I know there are several Tea Partys out there, each asking money and doing a million robo-calls a day and so open for infiltration by those who wish to cause mischief. I believe that the true tea party is unaffiliated with any organized group. I will not be led!!!!

        • Janne Thiebaud

          I am an Australian married to an American, and watching the future agonies of America unfold from Tasmania, with a very heavy heart. I understand the there is a group known as the Tea Party group, but it is very hard to separate them from the influence of their involvement in the Republican party. The truth is that the vast majority of the Republicans are WITH Obama all the way, with their agenda's overlapping, and their relationship with the Bilderberg group. America is in diabolical trouble, and affiliation with any party or group can be damaging beyond repair at this point in time. Every one of you, regardless of who you vote for or support, need to stand together right now, and STOP Obama and the Bilderberg group to whom he answers, before it is to late. It is easy to blame those who voted for Obama, and in truth it IS their fault your country is in such dire trouble, but the blame game achieves nothing when the need to unite is so essential to overthrow Obama, Biden, the administration and ALL Republicans who also have this on their agenda's. These Generals KNOW the state of the USA better than most, and they need to be trusted without question about now, to give the guidance you all need to DEFEAT the EVIL agenda's of those who currently rule you. God Bless America.

        • lilolady

          Janne, I am struck by how many outside of this country are seeing the obvious urgency of righting this ship. Especially the Eastern block of Europe, Russia, Asia, and Cuba. They have indeed seen this before and those who have come here to make their home are so afraid of reliving the horror they managed to escape. Even Britain, reading their letters to the Editor and the Emails they post, but they have problems of their own making, are begging us to move quickly before it becomes to huge to recover. We seem to have been drugged into submissive behavior, without the will to act or the will to understand. The indoctrination of our young people has gone on for over forty years and now we are reaping the poison fruit of Marxism. It is World wide, Janne. Guard against it happening where you live. P.S. The Democrat Party and the Republican Party are one and the same. All those serving in both Houses of our Congress MUST be replaced, but we've so little time left. I think only Two Years.

        • Arationofreason

          "They have indeed seen this before and those who have come here to make
          their home are so afraid of reliving the horror they managed to escape."

          Well stated. Our problem is two generations of overly protected, spoiled children who have no experienced anything like this before and have not the judgement or the wit to recognize the evil which has be festering in this government for years.
          Thank you for taking the interest in our plight to support us in our agony.

        • Tom Oppelt

          Janne, I lived in Sydney and surrounding areas(ie Merrickville, Newtown ) and I have to say that you are so very right and it is so scary to see a country as beautiful as AMERICA being torn apart and trashed. Being run (and I truely believe this) by a foreigner and thugs that "O" had to get out of jails and prisons. We have a speaker of the house and senate, both that are intent in destroying this wonderful country. We have an x-President that stood in front of cheering crowds saying " AMERICANS CAN GET USED TO COMMUNISM. This kind of talk is totally unamerican and this man should have his citizenship revoked and airlifted to the eastern block cauntries where they hate America also. We really do not need such a negative attiiude toward democracy. Yes, I must agree that most outsiders, (CANADIANS AND AUSTRALIANS) and many others can see the problems we are facing every day and yet the government keep dumbing down our young people in schools to where they think this is the way we have always lived. I pray to ALMIGHTY GOD every day to come back and wright the massive wrong that this country has turned to. just saying

        • women99

          Janne thiebaud
          First I would like to correct your thoughts on the Tea Party. It is NOT a political party at all YES they do align with SOME OF THE REPUBLICANS who are CONSERVATIVE AND FOLLOW OUR CONSTITUTION.
          The Democrats have become Socialist which is the reason WHY our country is in such bad shape ! SOCIALISM/COMMUNSIM ARE SLIMILAR THEY TAKE FREEDOM FROM EVERYONE. sorry for the caps not meant to be a yelling thing just empathize my thoughts. We also have lost our patriotic feelings because there are so many people here from foreign countries that want their culture to rule of the American culture.
          By the way I am a Tea Party member who used to be a Democrat. I now vote as an Independent.
          WHAT this country really needs is GOD and PRAY. We the country have allowed groups who do not believe in any God to take OUR LORD AND SAVIOR FROM EVERY PLACE that he was once a part of when this country became a country.
          I ask EVERYONE INCLUDING YOU TO PRAY FOR THIS COUTRY Thank you for your kindness
          A Christian women trying to help God to return to this country
          Blessings on you and your family

        • Areminder

          It's so good to read what you write. I subscribe to Several Tea Party groups' alerts and have helped in a very small way some of the candidates (not even all on the R ticket if they truly stood for what this country always stood for and had a record of standing up to their party and on principle. (Christian in every instance.) I, too, know that nothing done to restore this country will work unless we first turn penitently to God and follow the pathway of II Chronicles 7:14. Thansgiving, without God, who provides all Blessings is as meaningless as obama pinning those medals of honor on military while looking away with the pained expression he always displays.

        • evergreenfarms82

          May God truly Bless You Dear Woman99. We need more like you who will take a stand and be outspoken for our God (the one with a Son named Jesus) & Country. Thank you also for explaining to Janne what the Tea Party is. The 'Generals' article is bring people together from around the world and I pray I, along with you and others, can help facilitate that process. God Bless, Fred

  • David Tong

    The scope of the goals is sweeping and breathtaking!; perhaps a bit too much at once...?

    • Janne Thiebaud

      Read his last comment...it is that attitude that makes the problem seem insurmountable. It is not, IF enough people have faith AND become proactive towards their own futures and that of the nation. If you want to end up dead, or in a FEMA camp, keep doing/thinking what you are doing/thinking.

      • David Tong

        Even Ronald Reagan did not take on, or win every battle. He focused on things where he could achieve consensus in an era that had a lot less polarization in the political landscape compared to today,

        Also, since you don't know me at all, you should best not fire shots across the bow.

        • Janne Thiebaud

          I am NOT firing shots across any bow David, that sort of sensitivity is one of the very reasons America is in such trouble. Over sensitive, politically correct attitudes, and they achieve nothing except fear from everyone else, who FEAR saying the truth, or even sharing an opinion, in what was once a FREE society, where FREEDOM of speech was treasured. Get OVER that attitude, because it has no place in the future YOU and your countrymen are about to face.

          I am amazed that you don't realize that you are ALL out of time, period! Reagan had time on his side to achieve whatever he wanted to, YOU don't, and it SUITS your President that your time HAS run out! IF you do not get behind people like these General's, fully realising your time constraints, then you will suffer the consequences. I can assure you that Martial law, the FEMA camps, will not be great places to hold up, following your governments next false flag event, which is likely to be a bombing of his own people. He will blame another country, and fools will believe him! Do your own due diligence, and become more informed. Your country is going down if you, and all Americans do not stand as one, and head this off...IF there is even time to do that.

        • Dr Boom

          "...best not fire shots across the bow" - what a wanker. What are you going to do internet tough guy?

      • evergreenfarms82

        Janne - I just realized that I was way late in this dialog thread. I had not read any of the comments re. 'the Generals' when I first posted yesterday about this same time. I've read all your comments and feel you are a real asset to Nation USA. As an Aussi married to an American, you offer a much more valuable perspective than most Americans. Do you follow Joseph Farah over at WND,com? You and he are right in sync but once again, where is the action plan? If you wish, I would like to visit with you via email ([email protected]). Is your Husband a Cajun from Louisiana? Thiebaud sounds like a good Cajun name. My BioMass Energy Partner is Australian. My name is Fred H. Thank you for joining this conversation.

      • evergreenfarms82

        Janne - O.K. if I quote you as I present to others? I would like to use you as a non US Ally as I try to form a coalition of Patriots to implement our Action Plan to move our Nation out of Check by Obama. We need to buy some time to implement a true, workable 'Action Plan' to retake our Nation. I've generated some interest in what we have to offer and you can be an Asset in our Strategy. Please respond if it's just an O.K. Thanks, Fred.

    • Arationofreason

      Our forefathers did not think that revolution was 'too much at once'.

  • solidspine

    I support them completely, the first step is to impeach and imprison Obama and his colleagues.

  • USMC 64-68

    America needs a leader who believes in America, the rule of law, and individual rights - just the opposite of Dear Leader and the democrat progressives.

    Patriots will rally to him.

  • Terry Vanderpuke

    Who will save us from Homo's ?

  • Karen Griswold

    Pray for these men Obama and his followers will have them killed off like they have so many others who have spoke out against him.

    • shamu9

      Exactly!

  • Cyndi Smith

    Love this!

  • JH

    This is fantastic! I did not thing all the military men that Pres. Obama ousted would just lay down and take it. We are for you! JH

  • Chuck

    Janne: You are obviously a true patriot even if you do not live here. You have my respect and admiration. However, you tout JFK as the only true patriot. I beg to differ. He and his brother wiretapped MLK. He was the most immoral man ever to hold the office, with LBJ a close second. Yet, he, as with all the others, always acted for America and it's interests. Obama does not. Also please provide documentation that all these men were members of a secret society with the objective of ruling the world. It is easy to talk of conspiracy, but harder to prove them. Please do so in this case.

  • artarlo1

    When will the other officers going to join and band up? WE WILL SUPPORT THEM

  • dad666

    I like the sounds ofthisso far, Keep me posted. Where do I sign up???

  • Arationofreason

    Take back AMERICA.

  • John F Remillard

    Restoring Freedom of the Press would return the country to the U.S. Constitution of Republic of the United States of America.

    These Marxist FASCISTS Democrats are only 30% of the American population but because the they own the Main-Stream-Media (ABC CBS NBC MSNBC CNN ) they can con (lie to) the other 70% many of whom do not know what to believe!

    FoxNews Channel (a cable only news channel) and the Internet reach only a small segment of the population - so too many people are being misinformed. We must break the FASCISTS Marxists grip on the Main-Stream-Media! Boycott ABC CBS CNN NBC MSNBC and boycott the vendors who advertise on those networks! STOP THEM and their War against America would change!

    • Sandy

      John have you gotten Mark Levin's newest book: "The Freedom Amendments"?

      Other than armed insurrection, I'm hoping such a reformation may save America.

    • Areminder

      Or simply make them declare campaign donations each time they slant the news one way or fail to report the news so one side is favored. Then add the penalty of imprisonment for the owners of the agencies and reporters found guilty of doing so and refusing to report it as a donation to either a candidate, or party.

  • Kim Costanzo

    If you guys are counting on any kind of VOTING to change things, think again. While you are all spinning your wheels, they have vote fraud down to an electronic science. The ONLY thing that will get rid of this parasite and his coconspiritors is putting him and them in hand cuffs and after prosecution, hanging him for treason.

    • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

      But we have no one to trial them cause Obama is placing all his own judges in high office, there is no one to impeach Obama, a lot of talk about it but no action and we all know he does not and will not step down.. Who can we really get to force them out? How can we clean all the government offices out of the muslim brotherhood when Obama have them in every branch of government there is.? Personally , l am really feeling hopeless.

      • lilolady

        Lord, there is enough work ahead of us to last a hundred years! The laws alone, must be redone and really cleaned up after the dingbats added a little communism here and a little Marxism there and took away a little freedom ... and there. Ruined this company by stealing this to give that to a lobbyist's wife's cousin . If we only had real live Constitutional Attorneys, who actually live to see this Nation prosper with honor, morals and ethics, I know here come the lawyer jokes, ... we need our own people to rise up in each of their areas of expertise, choose a spokes man, let your voices be heard. One Doctor, spoke out publicly at a prayer breakfast and you would have thought, as I did, that there really is a God, and He gave this Man a microphone and a mind of his own, and the integrity to speak it to like minded Americans!!

        • OldArmy67

          Constitutional Attorney of my choice would be Judge Andrew Naplitanio.
          What a brilliant mind. We will have to create a panel of top minds on the Constitution to review ALL existing laws passed since 1900 and recommend that those with questionable Constitutionality be removed. Huge job, but this Nation has done amazing things when the chips are down. Term limits, outlawing lobbing, Congressional salaries based on GNP, no golden parachute retirements. It has all been said before. We The People just need to do it.

      • Areminder

        Why do the Heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing? (Psalm 2:1 KJV)

        He that sitteth in the Heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall He speak unto them in His wrath, and vex them in His sore displeasure. (Psalms 2:4 & 5 KJV)
        The discouragement and hopelessness is because we look around us, rather than up. Our help will forever come from the God who created all things. We need to turn to Him, admit our own sins and that we do indeed live in a sinful nation, then ask Him to forgive us and heal our nation, guiding new leaders to His way. II Chronicles 7:14 promises that if we follow His prescription, He will do just that.

        • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

          I have trust in God, but l fee helpless and hopeless cause l do not know how to help everyone, l want to be free of Obama and or conrupt government but other then praying, l do not know which way to help in other ways...

      • Laurence Almand

        Yes, you are correct, read the excellent book DUMBING DOWN THE COURTS by John Lott for an analysis of how our modern legal system, and the Constitution itself, is being subverted for political purposes.

    • Areminder

      Purple fingers seems to have worked well for the people of Iraq. We would, of course need to make certain that the buses to bring people to the polls were not equipped with powerful cleaning solutions.

      • OldArmy67

        I have an answer for that. It is Quinine Solution. Paint a big X on the back of their hand and it will show up under UV light. Wont easily wash off. Not like gentian violet. Purple finger.

  • Bobwojo48

    I wish them God Speed!

  • worldwatchers

    He should be tried for Treason against the people of the United States of America and be
    treated accordingly! Not only did he misrepresent his loyalties but actively
    worked to undermine the Constitution of the United States! He also gave comfort
    to American Enemies like the Muslim Brotherhood.

    • Areminder

      But we must remember he is only the figurehead for a vast and powerful cabal which are now running our country. From unelected czars, to valerie jarrett who advises him and although born and raised in Iran, seems to have negotiated secretly with Iran, on this deal which John Kerry has only recently been brought into and our Congress and allies knew nothing of, down to all the Congressional leaders who are more attuned to changing America into Amerika and destroying our Constitutional Republic, ALL MUST BE TRIED FOR TREASON!

  • worldwatchers

    The European countries have ignored history and the way of he Muslim! They allowed millions of Muslims to migrate to their countries from Africa Asia as well as the Mideast. The
    difficulties they find themselves in now is driving their foreign-policy down a
    very dangerous road. They have allowed the Islamic's to take control of their
    largest cities they have allowed the Islamics to impose their will. The
    Islamic's will claim they are doing Allah’s will. That is such a foolish
    statement the Muslim of today feel they are entitled to rape women or children
    many of them even animals and that way they are following the prophet Mohammed.

    Europe is at the mercy of the Muslim which will be their own
    destruction as they turned their backs upon the Jews of the world and the Jews
    in Israel.
    Damn them all to hell

    • surj

      worldwatchers ' , You are 100% right, Now see this http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2013/12/02/is-america-at-war-with-islam-a-tom-trento-presentation-video/ How muslims have infeltrated in WH and other Government departments

      • oldman67

        Aren't you glad Nikita khrushchev was wrong when he said,' We cannot expect the American people to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism until one day they awaken to find they have communism. According to you, the only threat to America is from Muslims. Who read into Congressional Records on January 10, 1963, (45 Communist Goals to Take Control of America)?

      • worldwatchers

        I don’t need a link to see the worlds movements
        Hillary Clinton undersecretary is that Huma the one with the wenner. She's of the
        Muslim brotherhood except it's called the sisterhood. Why do you think Barack. Handed you cash morsi clown The quick cash infusion and actively supported the cause 100%. This country is in grave danger we have allowed ourselves to be placed in a great disadvantage just take care store water.

      • SpudPicker

        Yeah, we elected one and he brought more in with him. Time to reverse the trend.

        Go! Generals. Let's get'em organized and let's get'er done! Time's a wastin'

  • OldArmy67

    OK All ! Listen Up!! Whoops Old TAC Officer habits creeping out. Well from what I have been reading this is a real HOT BUTTON topic. Before going off and pointing fingers at Generals Vallely and Jones go to their website. I have posted it here wrong a couple of times. My apologies. It is as follows: http://www.standupamericaus.org Also go to Oathkeepers. You will have to google it. Lots of very good info in these sites. Listen up, join up, get involved and LETS ROLL !

    • lilolady

      It is not too late to go back and change where you have post the organization wrong. All you have to do is edit each comment. Thanks for your input and efforts. :o

  • Patricia

    I am glad to know SOMEBODY is doing SOMETHING!!! How can we help?

  • http://www.survivingurbancrisis.com/ Silas Longshot

    Didn't take a committee of 'genius' level people to see what this dictator for life wanna-be was up to when the purge began.....any military officer of substantial rank was queried 'will you follow orders from the president to open fire on American citizens?' And if there was hesitation, or outright refusal per the Constitutional duty of the military, they have been replaced with political azzkissers who WILL pull the trigger on their fellow citizens as long as their promised power position in the new world order is assured. We can only pray that there are enough 'oath keepers' among the military and coming police state to gum up the works long enough for the hundred million or so armed citizens and former military to retake this nation after the SHTF.

    Don't forget, just counting registered hunters (who at least qualify as reasonably good snipers) we have between 23 and 40 MILLION that could be hiding behind every tree, rock and bush and countless windows that king zero's minions would have to face. There are 90 guns for every 100 people in this nation, making us the most heavily armed people on the planet......taking us by force is a daydream, UNLESS the people spinelessly lay down their arms to the dictator who passed a 'law' to do so.

  • Laurence Almand

    You will note that most of the military generals and other officers Obama has eliminated are all competent, dedicated White males. Has anyone but me noticed this fact? Also, I suggest you study the EOAC Student Guide, (on the internet, at the manews.org site) which is taught to modern recruits. This nonsense is about the White Male Club (whatever that is) and their "Power and Privilege" and is a hostile, reverse-racist diatribe. No wonder the military has serious morale problems!

  • Laurence Almand

    Go on the internet and Google my essay THE SHEEPLE'S CREED to find out why our people elect and tolerate such corrupt and incompetent politicians.

  • cbanalyst

    At last-Americans who put HONOR first. We need to get away from Obama and back to sanity!

  • Peter Lloyd Chambers

    I fully agree with your conjecture to implement opposition to Obama's Gang of SOCIALISTIC IDEALISTS. I understand your willingness to build committees and citizen involvement, This is not a West Point exercise, General(s). These people (soldiers) of Obamas know their targets, they are well versed in how to manipulate and undermine our culture. Gentlemen, you are out of touch with the AMERICAN people. Its time for you to get dirty, take off your stars, and take off your egos. You want people to become your soldiers, TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED, " GET IN FRONT OF THE BATTLE LINE AND LEAD". This is not going to be a pretty uniform confrontation. You are not going to just walk in and push Obama out. Obama will not resign. Obama is not a rational person. Obama is trained Hardcore Socialist Communist who wants to destroy this country we love.
    Diplomacy has really worked with the Islamic factions, right ! We need to get away from the 1950's ideologies and see the world as it is. America is not LOVED by countries ran by dictators or communists, Duh ! We are a DEMOCRACY, a melting pot of all nations. A nation where freedom is a gift. Where we can reach to new heights, if we wish. We can move freely from state to state. We can train for any job we have an interest in. HEY, America is not perfect, TRY TO FIND SO PLACE BETTER ?
    I have traveled the world, I have seen beautiful and wonderful sights. I have meet many wonderful people in my travels. Don't believe all the travel advertisements, its all gimmicks. Most of the people in these countries dream about coming to the USA.
    The biggest problem this nation of the free has today, " ARM CHAIR LEADERS, BIG IDEAS, AND MOST OF ALL - THE DESTRUCTION OR LOSS OF HUMAN LIVES DUE TO SELF PERCEPTIONS AND CONQUENCES IMPOSED BY OTHERS WITH LITTLE KNOWLEDLE.
    I am all for ridding our country of the Obama disease, but organizing a paper trail is not the answer.

    • Al Naegle

      Please, please get your facts straight! WE ARE A REPUBLIC! NOT A DEMOCRACY! We pledge to the REPUBLIC NOT THE DEMOCRACY!

  • Ross R Blankert

    This would work if folks would stop being a generation of ME and quit looking for a handout from government. Everything the government gives away come from someone else. Government produces nothing but crooks and criminals unless someone holds them accountable. Much of Washington DC needs to be in handcuffs. Lock them up in those FEMA camps and Lop off their heads with the devices they have ordered for us. I for one am scared of these monsters. Tyrants don't care what they do. Hitler took away the guns and proceeded to murder millions of people.

  • TOTLAM

    By retiring these fine, dedicated, men just might be the BEST mistake the 'liar in chief" ever made! For once he has removed the military collar from them to act independently yet still honor the oath we all took when we all joined our military. PLEASE! Watch this video on your computer: "Agenda, the Grinding Down of America" - then do a search for the: "List of 80 Communists in Congress" These proud, brave, Generals are proven leaders! They possess the ability to become the "Patriots" of our time. Pray for God to guide them - and for GOD TO BLESS AMERICA "Nam Vet" 66-67

  • Chuck

    If they have an organization, how does one join? We have had many Presidents who had moral, physical, mental and political ethics failures. But, they were all patriots. Bathhouse Barry is not a patriot. He is doing everything in his power, which he has usurped from Congress, to cleanse the military of those who oppose his agenda of taking down this Republic. We would get Old Foot in Mouth Biden, but he could not on his best day be as bad as Bathhouse Barry.

  • dennykray

    Obama is forming the DHS to be the "civilian" army he spoke of creating in his first run for the presidency. As we can now see the DHS is becoming his own private army which is being used in conjunction with the NSA to impose a global order on the US-a global order which will attempt to impose a new constitution on the US by the year 2020.
    As Karl Marx said in said in his communist manifesto-"The conversion of socialism to communism must be, by necessity, violent".
    Americans be ready to defend the Constitution from all enemies-foreign or domestic.

  • Robert Page

    Let me know where to be, and when, and I'll be with everyone else when we rise up against tyranny. May God be with us all.

  • hitlery

    Sign me up!

  • 1Reddevil

    These ousted Generals could organize a military to take America back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • satwell53

    TELL US WHEN AND WHERE:

    W. H. ( Bill ) Stewart has started a new discussion on your group: 100
    Million Patriots Standing

    Subject: DHS insider, "ROSE BUD", gives final warning...
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    DHS insider, "ROSE BUD", gives final warning...

    By Douglas J. Hagmann

    27 December 2013: Under the cover and amid the distraction of the Christmas
    bustle, I had my last “official” contact with a source inside the
    Department of Homeland Security known as “Rosebud” in my writings. My
    source is leaving his position, retiring along with numerous others choosing
    to leave this bureaucratic monstrosity. For this contact, my source took
    unprecedented measures to be certain that our contact was far off the radar
    of prying government eyes and ears. I was stunned at the lengths he employed,
    and even found myself somewhat annoyed by the inconvenience that his
    cloak-and-dagger approach caused. It was necessary, according to my source,
    because all department heads under FEMA and DHS are under orders to identify
    anyone disclosing any information for termination and potential criminal
    prosecution.

    “DHS is like a prison environment, complete with prison snitches,” he
    said, referring to the search for leaks and leakers. And the warden is
    obsessed. Ask anyone in DHS. No one trusts anyone else and whatever sources
    might be left are shutting up. The threats that have been made far exceed
    anything I’ve ever seen. Good people are afraid for their lives and the
    lives of their families. We’ve all been threatened. They see the writing on
    the wall and are leaving. It’s not a joke and not hype.”

    The following is a narrative from my source, prefaced with the instructions
    to “take it or leave it,” and “disregard it at your own peril.” He
    added that it’s now up to each American to act on the information
    themselves or suffer the consequences. “I’ve resigned myself to the fact
    that most [Americans] will never be convinced of the reality that is taking
    place right in front of them.”

    The plan explained

    “According to every internal document I’ve seen and read, and from the
    few people I’ve spoken with who understand what’s going on, preparations
    have been finalized to respond to a crisis of unprecedented magnitude within
    the United States. The response will include the use of lethal force against
    U.S. citizens under the instructions of Barack Obama.” But why?

    “‘It’s the economy, stupid,’” he began, paraphrasing a campaign
    slogan coined by James Carville for Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign. ”Just
    as I disclosed in our first meeting, the crisis will be rooted in an economic
    collapse. I told you last year, at a time when gold and silver were setting
    record highs, one specific indicator that time is very short. It is the final
    ‘smack down’ of the metals, gold and silver, that will presage the
    orchestrated economic collapse that is being planned by the bankers of Wall
    Street. Everybody needs to understand that this is a deliberate collapse of
    the U.S. economy with the oversight of the White House and the full knowledge
    of the Justice Department. Everyone seems to be waiting for some big, history
    making event that will signal the start of the collapse. The fact is that the
    collapse has already started. It’s incremental, like a snowball rolling
    down a hill. It gets bigger and rolls faster. Well, this snowball is well on
    its way down the hill.”

    “I don’t mean to sound repetitive, by I can’t stress this enough.
    Contrary to what you hear, we’re already in an economic collapse, except
    that most people haven’t a clue. The ‘big bang’ comes at the end, when
    people they wake up one morning and can’t log in to their bank accounts,
    can’t use their ATM cards, and find out that their private pension funds
    and other assets have been confiscated,” he stated.

    “I’ve seen documentation of multiple scenarios created outside of DHS.
    Different plans and back-up plans. Also, please understand that I
    deliberately used the word ‘created,’ as this is a completely
    manufactured event. In the end it won’t be presented that way, which is
    extremely important for everyone to understand. What is coming will be blamed
    on some unforeseen event out of everyone’s control, that few saw coming or
    thought would actually happen. Then, another event will take place concurrent
    with this event, or immediately after it, to confuse and compound an already
    explosive situation.” I asked for specifics.

    “As I said, there are several scenarios and I don’t know them all. I know
    one calls for a cyber-attack by an external threat, which will then be
    compounded by something far removed from everyone’s own radar. But it’s
    all a ruse, or a pretext. The threat is from within,” he stated. “Before
    people can regain their footing, a second event will be triggered.” Again,
    I asked for specifics.

    “I’ve seen one operational plan that refers to the federal government’s
    response to a significant terrorist attack on U.S. soil. Information at these
    levels is compartmentalized. I don’t have specifics, just plans for the
    response. The response will be controls and restrictions on travel, business,
    and every aspect of our lives, especially gun ownership and speech that
    incites people against the government. I guess some people would call it
    Martial Law, and they would not be incorrect. But understand that this will
    be a process deployed in stages. How quickly of a process remains to be
    seen.”

    The mechanics explained

    As I said, people continue to look for something big to happen first,
    followed by a militaristic response by the federal government against U.S.
    citizens. Based on what I’ve seen, I don’t believe it will happen this
    way, although there is one unthinkable exception. That exception would
    involve a ‘decapitation’ of our leadership, but I’ve seen nothing even
    remotely suggestive of that. But I’ve heard and even read articles where
    that is mentioned. Frankly, though, that’s always been a threat. I suppose
    that if the leadership is deemed useless, or becomes a liability to the
    larger agenda in some manner, it could happen. The precedent exists. Let’s
    pray that it’s not the case now.”

    “I don’t think anyone except the initiated few know the precise series of
    events or the exact timing, just a general overview and an equally general
    time period. I think we’re in that period now, as DHS has their planned
    responses finalized. Also, the metals are important because it’s real
    money, not Ponzi fiat currency. The U.S. has no inventory of gold, so the
    prices are manipulated down to cause a sell-off of the physical assets. China
    is on a buying spree of gold, and other countries want their inventory back.
    The very people causing the prices to drop are the ones who are also buying
    the metals at fire sale prices. They will emerge extremely wealthy when the
    prices rise after the U.S. currency becomes wallpaper. A little research will
    identify who these people and organizations are.”

    “I’d like to add a bit of perspective that might help explain the events
    as I described. Do you remember former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
    announcing that the Pentagon was unable to account for $2.3 trillion in the
    defense budget? That was on September 10, 2001, the day before the attacks of
    9/11. Some suggest that 9/11 was orchestrated, in part to cover up the
    missing money, which is ludicrous. The result, however, was that suddenly the
    accounting issue took a back seat because of the attacks. The result will be
    the same. That’s a perfect example of the mechanics of what we are about to
    experience. It’s going to take years to sort out, and when it’s finally
    sorted out, the damage will have long been done.”

    “Please note a few final things. The relationship that exists between DHS
    today and the executive branch is well beyond alarming. DHS and other
    organizations have become the private army of the Oval Office. The NSA, and
    I’ve got contacts there, is taking orders from the Oval Office. The IRS is
    under the virtual control of the Oval Office in a manner that would make
    Nixon cower. Even though all roads appear to lead to the Oval Office, they
    lead through the Oval Office. It’s not just Obama, but the men behind him,
    the people who put him there. The people who put him there are the ones who
    created him.” I asked who created him.

    “First, ask yourself why there was such an all out effort to marginalize
    anyone talking about Obama’s eligibility in 2008. Even so-called
    conservatives pundits fell for the lie that such questions were nothing more
    than a diversion. They were following a specific drumbeat. That should tell
    every rational adult that he is a creation of the globalists who have no
    allegiance to any political party. He is the product of decades of planning,
    made for this very time in our history. He was selected to oversee the events
    I just disclosed. Who has that ability? He’s a product of our own
    intelligence agencies working with the globalists. He should be exhibit
    ‘A’ to illustrate the need to enforce the Logan Act. Need I say more?”

    As often said by another of my sources, the U.S. is a captured operation. The
    lie is bigger than most people realize or are willing to confront. That is,
    until there is no other option. By then, it might be too late.

    http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archiv [1]...

    CASH, SILVER AND EXTRA FOOD WILL BE KING.....!!!!
    FINAL WARNING..... IT JUST STARTED... "THE FINAL PHASE""

  • Paul Mauricio Velasquez

    If no me, who, if no NOW, when? the majority posting here, never had lived under a dictatorship , I have. Some in the US had been killed, making their deaths look like "accidents" or "suicides". Despite like somebody posted here, JFK was indeed a true patriot, same his brother, both were killed by the same people. Was not enough to kill them physically, they fabricated all those LIES about "women affairs", like the lie of the "magic bullet, in order to "justified" such murders. Today those monsters had have takeover the White House, a gang of neo-nazis allied with their former friends, the muslims.
    We must don't forget, that even Communist Russia and China were our allied in WWII.
    But the neo-Nazism-muslim agenda had more power today, because they achieved what JFK was trying to stop: The merging of the worst dictatorship in History. As their agent George Soros has say, the United States "need to be destroyed". Since November 1963, that destruction has been in work. Americans we had been lie and deceived. Republicans and Democrats are both TRAITORS, selling for Money and "tips" the integrity of the Nation, Raping the Constitution and covering corruption in high places, murdering the innocent, and selling justice for money. They are the new Judas Ishkariot selling their soul to Lucifer.
    Independence don't came by "voting", the voting farce kept ruthless regimes in Latin America, Africa, Asia for decades, murdering, raping, kidnapping and "disappearing" thousands. Americans stop being naïve, this present enemy is worst that the king of England, than hitler, that Pol Pot. He will be not move out by votes, STOP THE LIE OF TWO PARTIES, BOTH ARE THE SAME TRAITORS!!! they only FAKE to fight each other, "they DIVIDE, so they Conquer". Don't be fools anymore!!
    Nixon was ousted by A VERY MINOR scandal, even so, he never commit TREASON like Obama has done, so WHO IS PROTECTING THIS TREASON, against US?
    Why Americans are AFRAID to fight Obama? Yes we need to pray, but George Washington don't stop just there. Faith without works is dead.