What Does Robert Jeffress Have in Common with Mitt Romney?

Robert Jeffress, pastor of the 13,000-member First Baptist Church of Dallas, described Mormonism as “cult like.” His comments created a storm in the media because of his endorsement of Rick Perry at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C., and the fact that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Actually, Romney is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. This is an important designation, as I’ll point out below because of its emphasis on the last days.

The “cult like” comment caught my attention as it did people like Sally Quinn of the Wasington Post:

It’s not enough that Perry’s spokesman said the governor didn’t share Jeffress’s view that Mormonism is a cult. After the way Jeffress unloaded, both in his introduction of Perry at the Values Voters Summit and afterword in remarks to the press, the public needs to hear from the candidate himself.

Quinn and other liberal pundits are missing something about Jeffress’s views that are equally “cult like” but for a different reason.

Ever since Joseph Smith pieced together the Book of Mormon and the church’s strange doctrines, this made-in-America religion has been described as a cult. Walter Martin’s The Maze of Mormonism, first published in 1962 and later incorporated in his larger work The Kingdom of the Cults, set the early standard of evaluation. But even before Martin’s work, evangelicals have been critical of Mormonism. Anthony Hoekema’s The Four Major Cults (1963) also designated Mormonism as a cult.

There is an aspect of Pastor Jeffress’s belief system that is also “cult like,” something that he shares with Romney and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, with an emphasis on “Latter-Day.” Jeffress and Romney believe that we are living in the last days. Not only does Jeffress share this belief with Mormons, he also shares it with Jehovah’s Witnesses. In fact, Jeffress has made the end times the center-piece to his ministry. Jeffress has written Twilight’s Last Gleaming which is about America’s “last days.” For all his posturing about how we can delay the inevitable, there is no way to delay it.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses follow an end-time scenario that is not much different from the one outlined by Jeffress. There are the obligatory references to nation rising against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, earthquakes, pestilence, and what they believe is a yet future preaching of the gospel into all the world of our day.

You will also find that the Jehovah’s Witnesses and dispensationalists like Jeffress share the belief that world wars, terrorism, homosexuality, the rise of Islam, tsunamis, diseases like malaria, influenza, and AIDs are empirical evidence that the end must be near. There is also the common belief that Armageddon is still in our future. Like Jeffress, Jehovah’s Witnesses “are convinced of the reality of these prophecies.”[1].

They both emphasize the “Messianic Kingdom” of Jesus on earth. Other than some differences in the Bible translations the Witnesses use, there is not much difference in the way they view the millennial kingdom. In fact, one of the publications of the Jehovah’s Witnesses is The Watchtower: Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom.[2] Jeffress holds a similar belief.

As Ed Decker, a former Mormon writes, Mormons “are basically believers in premillennialism (that the Second Coming of Jesus will occur before the millennium)” and “believe in an essentially literalist interpretation of the events in Revelation, thus they are expecting famines, plagues, and earthquakes.”[3] Jeffress shares a similar belief.

Jeffress preached a series of sermons with the title “Twilight’s Last Gleaming” in September that laid out his belief that Christians can only “delay America’s eventual demise” because “this world’s days are numbered.” He told his audience that America is headed for “inevitable collapse.”

How is Jeffress’s claim that “America’s collapse is inevitable” any different from the cults like LDS and the Jehovah’s Witnesses that teach something similar? Why bother working to change the political landscape to lessen the power of government if America’s end is inevitable, inevitably soon? Could America’s demise be just around the corner because tens of millions of Christians have been told that certain prophetic signs that the “rapture” is near?  Why bother building Christian schools and developing curriculum with a solid biblical worldview if the end is near? Why bother studying law, starting a business, or developing alternative energy sources if the end is near? Pick any cultural endeavor and ask similar questions of Mr. Jeffress.

The prophetic views of Mr. Jeffress are more dangerous than those of Mitt Romney because tens of millions of Christians believe that we are living in the last days, read books on the last days, and, listen to big-name pastors and teachers on the last days. Their last days beliefs affect the way they view their world. Why polish brass on a sinking ship?

The worldview of Mr. Jeffress is schizophrenic and self-defeating.

Notes:
  1. “When?,” Awake! (April 2008), 7 []
  2. “Four Questions About the End Answered,” The Watchtower: Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom (August 1, 2010), 5–8. []
  3. Ed Decker, Decker’s Complete Handbook on Mormonism (Eugene, OR: Harvest House, 1995), 186. []

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  • http://gospelcenter.us dan

    well, the writer does know some data from history, and does successfully point out some weaknesses
    in dispensationalism, but he fails by conveying that somehow premillenialism has resulted in "not polishing
    the brass" because the ship is going down - the ship is going down, like it or not, ("the latter days shall wax
    worse and worse") and some of the historically
    most vigorous participants in being salt in this present evil world have been people who understood things will
    get only worse until the lord comes back-eg. wiliam riley/ frank norris, charles spurgeon, jerry falwell, etc. (hundreds
    and thousands could be named) - dan from eau claire, wisconsin

    • The Godfather

      The Godfather is quite aware of prophetic issues, hving written five books and hundreds of articles on the subject as well as debating those who hold to an imminent last days view. Second Timothy 3:13 actually says, "But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived." As evil men become consistent with their worldview, they go insane. That's what was happening in Timothy's day, and that's what always happens to evil men. Earlier in the same chapter Paul writes, "But they [Jannes and Jambres: v. 8] shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was" (v. 9). The worldview of these types of people is "folly." People have been predicting the end based on signs of the times for hundreds of years. Jerry Falwall believed the end would come before the year 2000. He was wrong. Spurgeon wrote the following:

      "David was not a believer in the theory that the world will grow worse and worse, and that the dispensations will wind up with general darkness, and idolatry. Earth's sun is to go down amid tenfold night if some of our prophetic brethren are to be believed. Not so do we expect, but we look for a day when the dwellers in all lands shall learn righteousness, shall trust in the Saviour, shall worship thee alone, O God, and shall glorify thy name. The modern notion has greatly damped the zeal of the church for missions, and the sooner it is shown to be unscriptural the better for the cause of God. It neither consorts with prophecy, honours God, nor inspires the church with ardour. Far hence be it driven." (Charles H. Spurgeon, "The Treasury of David: Containing the Book of Psalms; A Collection of Illustrative Extracts from the Whole Range of Literature; A Series of Homiletical Hints Upon Almost Every Verse; and Lists of Writers Upon Each Psalm," 7 vols. [New York: Funk & Wagnalls Co., (1869), 1881], 4:102.)

  • Cole

    Godfather, I take it that you're a postmillenialist? Wherever one falls along the eschatological spectrum---an issue that often produces more heat than light---it's my experience that an increasing number of premillennial pastors---classical and dispensational---are becoming "operative premillennialists."

  • Frank

    ;So Mr. adminjistrator, you don't want the real truth published in your comment section. Would you at least indicate why you deleted my previous comment. You have my email, so if you don't like my comment why don't you let me know why.

  • Frank

    Correction: So Mr. administrator, you don't want the real truth published in your comment section. Would you at least indicate why you deleted my previous comment. You have my email, so if you don't like my comment why don't you let me know why.
    I apologize for my typing mistakes, as I was in a hurry.

  • JMM

    Jesus tell us we are to continue the Lords work until he returns. That means to go about working at our jobs, attending church, voting in elections to ensure the preservation of the freedoms of the greatest country in the world. In other word, live our life in a way pleasing to God and be ready when he calls us home to be with Him in Heaven.

    • Ann

      Simply expressed and Most Correct!

  • Leon R Evans

    Cult?? strange doctrines?? who is this guy and what little planet did he come from. I am always amused at the hypocricy of these so-called Christian ministers who promote the "love of God" out of one side of their mouth and spew their venom at anyone who doesn't fit their pattern as a Christian from the other side. He needs to contact the LDS missionaries and learn what the church teaches. Everybody knows that what you want to know about Mormons you ask a Baptist for the answer. Then you can sit back and say, "See, I told you so." Boy, that is logic!

    • Nancye

      To be a Christian, you must believe in the Trinity as Christians, not Mormons believe. That, and the fact they think Joseph Smith is a prophet. He is the one that started the Latter Day Saint chuch.

      • http://www.section134.com Trenton Hansen

        If the doctrine of the Trinity was not fully expressed until 325 AD, how could the early disciples be called Christians?

        • Kenny

          The Doctrine of the trinity came long before that. Jesus said I and my Father are one, and then he explained the gift of the holy spirit. In Matthew he told them to go out and baptise in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Religion was created by the devil to create Cofusion so people would turn away from God and follow different paths away from God other than what the bible told us is the tru path. Someone on here talked about Godly Love tru Godly Love is the type of love where you don't think, act or speak in away way that sins against God, and you don't think, act or speak in any way that causes people around you to sin against God, thats why we need Jesus Christ he shed his blood for our sins and is the only mediator between God and man. You can't work for your salvation we are all guilty of sin and in Gods eyes dirty filthy rags. This is comming from an X-Jehovah Witness.

    • Stan

      Mr. Evans,
      I have been in various churches of varies faiths. I have a decent understanding of many of these churches.
      Many will speak bad or even argue about religions. This is self defeating. Any person desiring to become knowledgeable about The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints may readily do so by looking at the http://www.LDS.org web sight. All are free to make a choice but my plea is first get the facts straight from an official source. The USA has had many groups call themselves Mormon when in fact they are their own church with no affiliation to The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints. This creates confusion. This is why I plead with anyone to just go to the official source.

      I would ask any of the pastors, Priests whom have visited other countries where the The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints is establish and take note that their churches are ran exactly as ones in the USA. People in other countries whom have witnessed the The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints do not call then a cult. It is a religion centered on Jesus Christ thus the name states "The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints " It's Jesus Christ's church. Its a organization centered around the way Jesus Christ setup his church when he was on the earth.
      I would peacefully and humbly submit to anyone to read the Bible "king James version" and with an open mind Read the book of mormon. What's is there to lose? If you read the Book of Mormon with an open mind, then Pray to Heavenly Father in the name of Jesus Christ sincerely asking with real intent Is the this book true I personally testify you will receive the burning in your heart which is our saviors way of let you know its true. You can also listen to conference talks and ask yourself are these talks good, righteous? Are these talk providing good fruits which help? I do bear my witness that if anyone reads the Book of mormon and does so with an open mind and a contrite heart you shall feel a spiritual witness of the Book Of Mormon's Validity. This same promise is given in the Book Of Mormon's pages. I know it to be true, but please do not take my word. You can read and listen to the whole Book on-line at LDS.org . Before one makes a judgement is it not wise to first research with an unbiased open heart and mind? I only ask all to judge fairly. Lastly I wish to make a comment about what is said regarding works and order. The Lord mention that his house is a house of order and it works are good bring forth much good fruit. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day saint is a very good example to a well organized church which brings forth righteousness proven by it works righteous positions.

  • clovis

    I'm afraid you missed the point entirely. Most people don't think that mormonism is a cult, because it has some similar beliefs in the end time prophesies, but because of what they believe about the Christ of Christianity. What the Bible teaches about Jesus Christ and what the book of mormon teaches about Him are very different, and in no way lines up with Christianity, therefore, the tag of "cult". In addition, your biased view and lack of good research is evident in your last statement. You cannot present one shred of evidence that the world view of Mr Jeffress is schizophrenic, or self defeating. So it is nothing more than a hollow statement, with no basis in fact.

    • Larry

      Please list, in detail, the differences between what the Bible teaches about Jesus Christ and what the Book of Mormon teaches about Him. The world really wants and, especially, needs to know this. What do the Mormons actually believe about the Christ of Christianity?

  • Jeanne

    I suggest you separate politics and religion. To find out the truth about 'religion' please consult the Holy Bible. God hates 'religion'. Christianity is what I think most of you are speaking about, but you lose it in turning it into 'religion'. So if you are going to speak in this context remember that Christianity is the belief in 'Grace alone, by Faith alone, in Christ alone!' If it goes beyond this, it becomes a cult!

    • dan

      jEANNE, You have hit the nail on the head. Grace alone, Faith alone and Christ alone the only way to Heaven

    • Jema

      Actually the Bible says that without "works" faith is dead. It is through grace AND works that one is saved. It is not enough to profess to believe in Christ, one must pattern their life after Christ. "By their fruits ye shall know them", said Matthew in the Bible. You can tell by the way a person lives their life if they are true followers of Christ. The Bible also says that unless a man is "born again" they cannot enter the Kingdom of God. One must also be baptized in Christ's name by someone who has the authority and then continue to follow Christ the rest of their lives. (One cannot be baptized and then forget Christ and expect to be saved. It does not work like that). What happens if someone dies before getting baptized? Are they forever lost as some Christian churches teach? Not necessarily. For those who did not have the chance here in this life, a loving Father in Heaven will give them a chance in the next life. Only Mormons understand this concept and teach it.

  • Curtis Royer

    The author's statement about the fall of the United States in not shared by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Gordon B. Hinkley, the last prophet before the current president, Thomas S. Monson, stated (I don't remember the exact quote but this is close) that he fully expects that Old Glory will be flying in the breeze at the time of Christ's return. The United States was established, by God, (look at all the miracles that happened in the process) in order to be a beacon of liberty to the world, and for the restoration of the Church of Christ through the prophet Joseph Smith.

  • Guest

    I am unsubscribing to your email over this sadly written piece. Pitiful.
    Stop calling The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints a cult; they're not and neither are the Jehova Witnesses. Just because they don't conform with the Baptist church doesn't make them a cult. Mercy!
    I agree with Bob Bennett's response to Jeffress. Wonder how the Baptists would react if the Catholics started calling their church a cult? You know, they came after the Catholics after all!

  • A Morrissey

    This Baptist Minister is convinced me never to vote for a Baptist. Their brand of closed minded religion is no different than the Muslim extremist types. If you want to impose your religion and criticize everyone else's you should not represent the majority of Americans in any public office.

  • Jema

    I am a Mormon, living in Germany, and will NOT be voting for Romney. The leaders of our Church, technically called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, have ALL spoken about how the US Constitution comes from God and that it should be honored and protected. And although our Church does not endorse candidates, they have given us counsel to choose the best candidate NOT based on party but who could best defend values and the Constitution. With that said, we as members are free to choose for ourselves how we choose to follow the counsel given to us. Romney, who I don't believe is a bad person and who I see as a sincere believer of Jesus Christ, does not seem to have a firm understanding of the Constitution whose record and history as a leader confirms this (enforcing mandates like his Romneycare, thinks we should consult lawyers before the country goes to war instead of getting a declaration of war from Congress as required in the Constitution, etc.) This however reflects him personally, NOT the Church as a whole.

    I am going to vote for Ron Paul. He seems to be the ONLY candidate who not only understands and respects the Constitution, but also doesn't give just lip service to this... he has a record of over 30 years to back what he believes.

    This article claims that the Mormon religion is a cult. This is utter nonsense!! Obviously I don't believe it is a cult as I am a Mormon. We have over 14 million members all over the world, over 37,000 here in Germany, and all of us know and believe that Jesus Christ is a our Savior and Redeemer. We are counseled to study all the scriptures given to us by God, including the Bible, and that we must take part in all holy ordinances that Jesus taught in order to be saved, such as baptism by immersion, by someone who has the authority. The problem with this article is that is uses as its reference very biased, anti-Mormon literature for the basis of deciding that it is a cult. That would be the equivalent of me trying to get to know Ron Paul by listening to only mainstream media and all of his critics. Obviously, I could only get really biased information concerning him. I would suggest that you meet with a couple of Mormon missionaries (as one commentor already suggested) and find out for yourself firsthand from the Mormons about the Mormons.

    To get to the point: The Mormon religion is NOT a cult. Mitt Romney does believe in Jesus and is not evil, just misguided. Ron Paul IS the only candidate of 2012 that has a clear understanding of the Constitution.

  • Doc

    To all the uninformed and scripture illiterate, what the preacher at F B C Dallas is saying isn't a Baptist Doctrine/teaching.

    Listen, you might want to study world religions,/Cults / O' Cults and then study Christian Beliefs from the Scriptures, not
    some man made companion to the Bible , theory, or ideas.

    Any religious group which does not embrace the Holy Scriptures / The Word of God is wrong. This nation was founded
    on the Word of God, and now this nation has allowed folks to bring in their false teaching and false beliefs and false
    God's so that now folks ( lots of them ) are confused and duped into believing what ever is okay.

    The original scriptures teach there is only one God, on Son and one Holy Spirit. Before saying things that you really don't
    understand, tells you aren't educated in the entire realm of all religions, cults, O'cults and Christianity.

    Yes, everyone has the right to their own opinions, but God's Word is God's Word ! And that is not up for debate, that is
    a fact. God said it, That settles it. Not mankind. Now is the Pastor of F B C Dallas wrong ? Or are non-Christians
    offended because of their non-belief that Jesus Christ is the Only way to heaven and the only Savior of this world.

    No, the Pastor of F B C Dallas isn't wrong, and it has offended those who are Christians, Christ like.!

    The Gospel of John 14 : 6 , Jesus Christ says : " I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no one comes to the
    Father except through Me." The Word of God id the Word of God, no exceptions.

    Maybe that will help those who are upset and don't understand the Christian Faith which is totally based on Jesus Christ,
    His Birth, His Death, and His Resurrection.

    Why don't you all call up some Bible Scholars, who study the original scriptures and yes even translations which came
    from the original languages, and begin a study to see what God says. I hope this helps all concerned.

  • IknowHim

    We are living in the "end times"; however, the term "inevitably soon" only has human relevance. With an omnipotent God, the time-space continuum has no meaning when one milli-second is as 1000 years to God. Be assured Christ is coming back whether pre, mid, or post rapture, and as Christians we need to be ready for that day.

  • Allen

    The Godfather writer, obviously, does not understand that similarities between things do not make them the same. Islam, also, teaches the end-times are near. That, and several other similarities, do not equate Islam similar to Christianity. The Godfather writer seems to not have much respect for what the Bible teaches. Although I don't consider Mormonism an actual cult, I know their religion is pseudo-Christian and not biblical (as does Pastor Jeffress). However, that has nothing to do with Romney as President. I am going to vote for the one to be my President...not my pastor. Anyone who cannot distinguish the difference is guilty of the same fallacious reasoning as the Godfather writer.
    Allen Brown, MAJ, USAR (Ret.)

    • The Godfather

      What is fallacious? You are right. Islam, Mormonism, JWs, and other religious groups teach the end is near. They all follow the same hermeneutic even though they would argue it differently. Christians like Jeffress have been predicting the near end for centuries using the same Bible passages. There's a more biblical approach that clears the clutter and confusion. See my books "Last Days Madness," "Is Jesus Coming Soon?," "Why the End of the World is Not in Your Future," and "10 Popular Prophecy Myths Exposed and Answered": http://www.AmericanVision.com

  • wisdomisbliss

    Okay. _I've read every post till now. I am certainly no scholar on everything, but here's what I understand. (it’s been 30+ years since I studied all of this - bear with me - my reference books are packed away right now)…
    _First, Pastor Jeffress in NOT wacko, hateful or anything of the like. He is a very educated, conservative Pastor of First Baptist Church, downtown Dallas, Tx. I watch and listen to him regularly. He is very wise and spot on, and quotes the inerrant Word of God (you know - the Bible?).
    _Second, Mormonism is NOT a cult, like Koresh or Jim Jones or Bagwan Shree Rajnish (remember the guy in Oregon? with the 25 rolls royces, all for himself in the 80’s?). It’s a horse of a different color. While all Mormons 'believe' Jesus Christ, here's where it splits:_Ward and Stake Mormons / Mormon families in the community at large are more 'Christian', like most other Christians. Dedicated, devoted to their families and communities, conservative Christian values. Good, decent, honest, hardworking people!!

    • wisdomisbliss

      Temple Mormons are more followers of Joseph Smith’s theologies. Secret ceremonies 'through the temple veil', secret handshakes, and other Freemason-like rites and rituals. Promises to ‘slit my throat from ear to ear, If I divulge Temple rites’, and so on. Hmmm.
      Prayers and baptism for one's deceased ancestors to be redeemed to go to heaven, at the closest Mormon Temple.
      Once married in a Temple (secret) ceremony, the wife understands she is to be loyal to her husband - only he will be able to summon her from the grave to go to their 'reward' (become like gods to populate their own spirit world). MANY Temple Mormon wives have had nervous breakdowns, fearing that if they weren't 'good enough' or if they pixxed-off their husbands, they were doomed to eternity in the grave.

      • wisdomisbliss

        NEXT: Temple Mormons believe Joseph Smith's theology that 'as god once was, we are now; as god is now, so shall we become', or something like that.
        <Genesis 3:4-5 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”> (remember that sneaky serpent in the garden of Eden who said that??? ) So, in the Temple Mormons’ view, that the serpent deceived Eve was a GOOD thing!!!
        The goal of 'most' Temple Mormon couples is to go to their ‘heavenly reward, to produce many spirit babies' , just like god is doing now with us.
        There’s sooo much more - many books written by ex-Mormons and theologists alike - 'Mormonism, Mama and Me’ was one.
        So GO READ, STUDY LEARN and GET WISDOM - because Wisdom is the Principal Thing!

        And as Glenn Beck states almost daily, ‘don’t believe anything I say - research for yourself’…

        • wisdomisbliss

          Oops - one more Bible-thing, regarding those who subscribe to the Book of Mormon as a 'supplement to the Bible' -

          Revelation 22:18-19 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

          (I don't write or make this stuff up - I just quote it, word for word, like Pastor Jeffress...)

        • http://AnotherMormon Fuller

          Your quotation is correct; however, you neglected to mention Revelations was written before the other books of the New Testament. It was placed last in the Bible by the group of religious scholars compiling the King James version not because it was the last book written. The quotation only pertains to the Book of Revelations. There are similar quotes in the Old Testament so if you cite that scripture you are eliminating a good portion of both the Old and New Testament.

      • http://www.section134.com Trenton

        I'm sorry, friend, but you don't know what you think you know. Or, to borrow a phrase, you know a lot that isn't so.

        • wisdomisbliss

          Trenton -
          Please expound - where am I wrong? Nothing I wrote was hateful, etc., but it IS possible I was inaccurate. It's been 30 years... Please share what you know and let's compare notes. In the meantime, I need to dig my boxes of books out and refresh my memory the 'Handbook of Denominations' is another good book to reference.
          As far as Mitt Romney goes, it's not because of his choice of faith or belief system that bothers me - it's that I don't agree with all of his political ideaologies. But when push comes to shove, I WILL vote 'ABO' (anyone BUT Omama), and pray for His guidance for our next President. I WOULD like to see Mr Cain or Mr. Paul be elected.

        • wisdomisbliss

          To TRENTON - here it is, corroborating what I pulled from 30 year-old recollections of Temple Mormonism. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=354721
          (Mormon bishop's daughter spills Romney's 'secrets' ... 'Would you trust the judgment of a man if he truly believes he's gonna be a god?')
          READ ON, if you dare, and learn...

  • juan

    I believe that Robert jefferes is correct according the Southern Baptist Convention. But if someone says that they are a Christian and have accepted Jesus Christ a s their Lord, that is not between me and them, that is between God and them!

  • Beebop

    If you are going to label Robert Jeffress as "schizophrenic and self-defeating" and to say that his beliefs and those of Joseph Smith are alike, then you may just as well go ahead and say that Christianity is a cult just like Mormonism. It is very apparent that you have not met the Christ of Calvary as your Lord and Savior. I invite you to earnestly seek out an Evangelical Christian or an Evangelical Pastor that will lead to an experience to know God and His Son Jesus Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit that you may experience the "New Birth" that Jesus teaches about in John 3. Then, and only then, will you know the meaning of a rich and fulfilling life in Christ, and not for now, but for all Eternity. I am earnestly praying that God will do a wonderful work in your life for now and for all Eternity.

    • The Godfather

      I've been a Christian since 1973. Like Pastor Jeffress, I have a seminary degree and a PhD. I've written six books on prophecy issues. Of course, none of these things make me right, but they do show that I am not ignorant of the topic I wrote on.

  • Cousington

    The association of cult to the perception of how the Trinity is viewed seems to me to overlook words contained in the Bible. In Matthew 26 verse 39, Jesus Christ is quoted as saying to his Father on the subject of having to drink the bitter cup "nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt".

    Praying to his Father, in itself, points to a separateness of the two though the union of their purpose appears to be complete. From his followers Christ requested the same, to be one with him as the Father and He are one.

  • James fromTexas

    The atheist arthur of the article is spouting garbage. The problem is the book of Morman is a plagerism of American history and the Bible. Morman's believe they will rule their little kingdom on a planet somewhere instead of being with Christ in Heaven. I don't think Romney can win. We need Gov. Perry. He successfully lead Texas for three terms. Texas has a rainy day fund savings for future needs. Where is the federal rainy day fund. I think it is in the pockets of special interest who have put unwise politicians in office for the past 50 years. Where is accountability in government? Politians lied about a lock box with Social security and Medicare funds in it. It is full of iou's. Where is accountability in government.

    • Jema

      It's obvious that JamesfromTexas is not very well informed on two issues: 1) The Book of Mormon and 2) Rick Perry. This problem could be very easily solved... a) Read the Book of Mormon and b) study Perry's history. He's an Establishment puppet. You are welcome to your opinion, but to everyone else who does KNOW, it doesn't give your opinion any credibility.

  • ANAMVET

    guess they are both faggotts and socially disfigured

    • Jema

      That's real mature.

  • Chad

    There are too many divisions in this country and Obama has only exacerbated them. Our country was founded on religious freedom, we should celebrate our ability to worship as we see fit, not demonize each other for it! Let's pull together and get this country back on the right track and that starts with getting rid of Obama! Whether it is Perry, Romney, or Cain, they would all make much better presidents than what we have currently.

  • samtman

    I just cant understand why this wastefull debate between religios factions about something that does not exist, lets get real and talk about passing the Jobs Bill, so a couple of miilion people can go back to work.

  • http://outlookexpress pokey

    In light of the article it's of no concern of what Mr. Romney's Bibical beliefs are. This is of no concern as there is fighting between most denominations and quite a bit in the same denomination between different churches. The fact is that Romney would be nothing but a white Obama. He was a believer in abortions until he went into politics, is for cap and trade, started government health coverage, is for illegals crossing our borders and more that the readers should know or find out before voting. I don't care what a person claims to be in his religious travels but that he has the moral and character to lead this nation.Governor Jindal of Louisiana I think would be a great president as per his record. I don't think that he would be either of the above religions and shouldn't negate him from holding office, but if his beliefs were opposed to the constitution or the bill of rights and supported big government that dominated the public and looked for ways to take most of the publics earnings then I wouldn't care if he was of the same denomination as myself; he wouldn't get my vote. I would hope that Chris Christie backing Romney tends to limit his endevors in politics, but that is the north east corridor and probably will not.

  • nanack

    You all forget 1 major thing "IT IS ALL IN GODS HANDS AND HE HAS A PLAN" God bless you all.

  • wisdomisbliss

    TRENTON - here's a supporting story:

    Mormon bishop's daughter spills Romney's 'secrets' ...
    'Would you trust the judgment of a man if he truly believes he's gonna be a god?' http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=354721