Corporations Don’t Pay Taxes – Ever!

Taxes-High-BigA CNN article reports that many corporations don’t pay income taxes, and many more don’t pay the 35 percent corporate tax rate. The average tax is around 18 percent. You and I should be thankful that some corporations don’t pay any taxes and be upset that the average tax rate is 18 percent.

When a corporation pays taxes, it counts those taxes as an expense. All business expenses are passed on to consumers. That means that they are passed on to you and me. When Congress calls for more taxes on Big Oil, they are actually calling for a tax on us. This is in addition to the taxes we already pay to the state where we buy the gas and the federal government.

Governments bring in more money than the oil companies make in profit without taking any risks. Governments just collect the money. Actually, the gasoline stations collect the money, which also costs them, and sends the state and federal governments a fat check.

Governments are in the business of fomenting class warfare. It’s one of the ways they can tax without a groundswell of opposition. There are fewer corporations when compared to individual voters. So by campaigning on a “tax the corporations” platform, politicians can appease and gain the support of tax payers. In the end, however, taxpayers are getting stuck with the higher taxes corporations will pay.

Oil companies are in for major political attacks. Many of the people who argue for higher taxes from Big Oil are invested in mutual funds that are heavily weighted in oil stocks and companies that are dependent on oil companies. Some of the raw materials that are produced from petroleum (“rock oil) are synthetic cloth, plastics, paint, inks, tires, drugs and medicines, cosmetics, and many other products.

Petrochemicals can be changed into a variety of products: plastics, clothes fabrics, paints, laundry detergent, food additives, lawn chemicals, and more than 6,000 other everyday products. The middle vapors result in gasoline, kerosene, and diesel fuel, as well as jet fuel (a form of kerosene). Next come the fractions that make home heating oil and fuel for ships and factories. The heaviest oil produces lubricating oil and grease, which can also be turned into items such as candle wax. At the very bottom of the distillation tower is the leftover sludge, also called bitumen, which is used in the asphalt that makes roads and roofing.

When the oil companies are taxed, the prices of all these commodities go up. So when we want Congress to tax Big Oil or any other company, we are only calling for a tax on ourselves.

Then there are the myths regarding oil company profits. Consider these facts posted on Exxon Mobil’s Perspective Blog : “For every gallon of gasoline, diesel or finished products we manufactured and sold in the United States in the last three months of 2010, we earned a little more than 2 cents per gallon. That’s not a typo. Two cents.”

Exxon also reported in 2010 that it made less than 8 cents for every dollar of revenue from all their businesses around the world. Compare this gasoline taxes (combined local, state and federal), which range from a low of 26.4 cents per gallon in Alaska to a high of 66.1 cents per gallon in California, averaging 48.1 cents per gallon across all states.

We should also keep in mind that “at the beginning of the twenty-first century, 1.5 million people in the United States were employed in the petroleum industry.” Consider that these big companies pay an equal amount of Social Security and Medicare taxes (more than 7 percent) on each employee. Then there healthcare costs.

If a company ever gets to the point that it can’t pass on the cost of an increase in taxes it either (1) goes overseas where corporate taxes are low, labor is less expensive (because of lower taxes and regulations), and an absence of unions or (2) they go out of business.

How does taxing corporations help you and me? Do we see any of that money flow into our pockets? No we don’t. Politicians use corporations as economic bad guys. The money that’s collected from them is used to fund their pet projects. Democrats and Republicans are guilty.

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  • Robert

    Tell these class warfare MARXISTS to drown themselves it would greatly improve life on earth for everyone.

  • Ray

    That is one stupid article. I guess by his account if we got rid of all taxes then all our problems would be solved. Let everyone build their own road, and water system, and police dept. and on and on. If tax cuts help the economy then why are we in the tank….didn't the Bush cuts do the job? The real story is that tax cuts for the rich accomplish one thing…the rich get richer and the rest of us have to pay more which means the average Joe has less money to buy all the things that really create jobs. There is only so much money to go around. The fact that the division between the haves and the have nots is the biggest it's been since the Great Depression says it all…..the lack of controls on the banks (deregulation) and the cuts to taxes to the rich is the culprit.

    • scribbler1984

      "I guess by his account if we got rid of all taxes then all our problems would be solved. Let everyone build their own road, and water system, and police dept. and on and on."

      Really? That's your argument? The article simply points out a fact (that business taxes end up being paid by consumers) and you – in typical liberal fashion – immediately create a straw man to rail against. Did the article writer suggest anywhere in his piece that we should get rid of all taxes? Did he at any point suggest that security needs or roads should be created and maintained by individual citizens? No, he did not. And the fact that you would raise such a straw man argument demonstrates just how weak your argument really is.

      And then there are the Bush tax cuts – most of which went to the middle class, by the way. If you had been paying attention during Bush's time in office, you would have noticed that they did do their job. Unemployment was low throughout the 2000's, and didn't even start to become a problem until the Dems retook the Congress in 2007. That is also, by the way, the same point at which the economy began to stall.

      Save your straw men, focus on the real point in dispute, and get off your high horse. If you hate the rich so much – how dare they have more than you, eh? – then take your anger to the street and join the "eat the Rich" crowd at those ignorant Occupy rallies.

      • Patrioticnut

        Why bother with a reply to Ray? He is misguided and has over indulged in the leftist's koolade.

  • Old Sarge

    The big Corporations are not tax payers. They are tax collectors. When their corporate tax is raised they will make up for that money in several ways. Some of those ways will come in higher prices, fewer or no pay raises for employees and more layoffs but they will make up for that money that the government takes.

  • keith

    Yep, this article is spot on. Sadly, most people fail to understand these things. I’ve aaid over and over the price we get to pay at the register is inflated roughly 20% – 30% because of the “hidden” taxes contained in the costs. Larger corporations where you have virtual monopolies going on, can easily pass the costs of their taxes on to the consumer as their is no competition to prevent it. Small and medium businesses don’t have that luxury in most cases so they have to bite a lot of those added costs. And, pennies on the dollar is the profit margin for oil companies. When you sell trillions of gallons of petrochemicals annually, worldwide, of course you will have billions in profit. I’ve said it quite often, oil companies don’t rape the general public although that is what environmental whackos and the left in general would like you to believe. Microsoft has a profit margin significantly higher than the pennies on the dollar oil companies bring in, yet we hear nothing about taxing them to death for making Bill Gates one of thw richest men in the world. I find it highly ironic that not one of the top ten or twenty richest people in the world are there because of the massive amounts of money they made on oil sales. Another good indicator we are barking up the wrong tree.

    • Patrioticnut

      Kieth, good post. To add to it, what many people also don't realize is that those evil big oil companies owners are actually you and I who have their stocks in our 401ks.

  • Doug

    Nicely written article…but people only hear and see what they want. Those fools protesting wall street are a good example. People don't use common sense when they hear this guy in the White House claim to give students a get out of debt free card on their student loans….where do people think he is getting the money he is giving away? Has if he is going to take it out of his Millions of Personal Dollars to give amnesty in student loans!!!! It is tax dollars he is spreading the wealth with…taking our tax dollars and using it to give students of higher education amnesty on loans!! Or when he gives away hundred of millions of dollars to his friends in exchange for donations…tax dollars that could go to building better schools for our children or grand-children. Or tax breaks to help create JOBS, that will create more taxes, that will create more Jobs…etc., etc., etc! In God We Must Trust!

  • Patrioticnut

    So many of the posters here get it. We the consumers pay ALL of the taxes. There are a few here who just can't, for some reason, understand that fact. It is beyond reason and confounds me to no end. I have over the last several years posted this argument countless times, I guess some folks just can not rationally think this through. What is it going to take to convince people???

    • Terry

      "
      What is it going to take to convince people???"

      It will take something that, so far, has been impossible. It will take convincing them that common sense is better for them than blind partisanship. Good luck with that.

  • GOFJOHN

    (1) It's all politics: "Don't tax you and don't tax me. Tax the fellow behind the tree."
    (2) Corporations don't pay taxes because they hire good tax lawyers and accountants to avoid them — it's part of the government''s job creation program. When I complained once about the huge bill from our accounting firm, I was advised that they had saved our company $100,000 in taxes, in return for the $50,000 we paid them — that was a100% immediate return on our money. Where else could you get a better return?
    (3) Corporations don't pay taxes because, since government takes 40%of what would be profit, they are encouraged to spend more on luxury living, with lavish offices and traveling first class on business trips to conventions and resorts for their executives, with government paying 40% of the cost. Luxury living reduces their taxes as long as they have profits to pay for it.
    (5) And you are right, if, after all of the above, the company still pays some tax, the stock market requires that it be passed on to the consumer, because if earnings fall off, the board of directors fires the CEO. It's the double tax on dividends that makes capital gains in the stock market a better way to achieve a return on stockholder investments than paying cash dividends because the tax is deferred until the stock is sold.
    (6) More wrong decisions in business are made for tax reasons than any other!

  • flameinhair

    HA! So no matter which way we look at this…those of us that still have ‘jobs’, are getting it up the backside…..pass the K-Y please!

  • http://adrianvance.blogspot.com adrianvance

    Corporations may not show a profit for some time, but only by paying dividends, wages, property taxes and those folded into everything they buy. As it is 40% of every automobile is tax. How much more do they want?

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  • William

    I know for sure that when some industry comes into a state or county that they get a break on taxes for so many years. It is a way for that state or county to get them there. By doing this it brings jobs to the area. After the time given I don't know because I never looked into it. I am sure they get some kind of break after that time to.

  • Carol Fryer

    Especially at a time like this, I dont understand why corporations pay taxes at all. People as individuals pay income tax and then when they join in groups they pay more tax. This doesnt make sense to me. We so need to fix our tax system. I doubt even lawyers understand the codes anymore , there so many. Almost like they are purposely hiding something really bad so we cant see it.

  • Blair Franconia, NH

    Under the law, corporations are people too.

  • Mike88

    All of those items made from Petrochemicals can also be made from a very easy to grow crop that farmers if allowed to grow could create many entire new industries from. This new crop for farmers to grow is Industrial Hemp. Yes people, Industrial Hemp can be processed to make every item listed above, and at a much cheaper cost. Ever wonder why Industrial Hemp was encouraged to be grown by farmers during WW11 by our Federal Government, yet suddenly it became illegal to grow after the war ended.
    Competition from the Petrochemical, Oil , and Lumber Industries. Industrial Hemp if allowed to be grown could be a very competitive crop for farmers to grow and could create hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs because of all of the different types of Industries that could use and process Industrial Hemp.
    Ron Paul has introduced a Bill that would make Industrial Hemp legal to be grown, processed, and utilized in the United States again, but these Industries fear Industrial Hemp being re-legalized because it would create a competition for those industries that currently make those products listed above. Shouldn't we legalize Industial Hemp and bring back competition for the good of our nation?

  • RanScot

    The money for businesses come from consumers choosing to buy — imagine that.