Santa Claus and "Don't Tread on Me" Out of Business?

Businesses don’t want to offend their customers. I get that. But when a business owner decides not to offend some customers, he may end up offending more customers. A business owner should be able to do anything he wants with his business. It’s his business.

I’m not for suing a private business for discriminating against an employee, even if I agree with the employee. If a business owner only wants to hire people who are over six-feet tall, then that’s his business. (The NBA does this all the time, but the height requirements are a little more rigorous.)

But some business owners are downright stupid. But they have a right to be stupid. It’s their business. Stupidity is not against the law, at least not yet. Two cases of stupidity caught my attention. One is about Santa Claus and the other about the iconic “Don’t Tread on Me” rallying cry. Here’s the Santa Claus stupidity:

For each of the past two years, hospital volunteer Frank Cloyes spent one day as St. Nick, spreading good cheer and snacks to patients sitting through chemotherapy treatments. The 67-year-old James Island resident, a retired insurance executive who calls himself a "gregarious guy," paid for his own costume rental.

On Tuesday morning, a volunteer coordinator told Cloyes his services no longer were needed.

"Because of our state affiliation, we decided not to have a Santa presence this year," Hollings spokeswoman Vicky Agnew said. Hollings is a part of the Medical University of South Carolina.

Decorations will be "more secular and respectful to all beliefs," Agnew said. "We don't want to offend a volunteer with good intentions, but we need to think of the bigger picture. People who are Muslim or Jewish or have no religious beliefs come here for treatment," she said.

 An online poll was conducted asking, “Do you agree with the Hollings Cancer Center’s decision to ban Santa this holiday season?”

● Yes 1%: 46 votes

● No 98%: 2546 votes

 All in all, I would say that this was a bad business decision, catering to the one percent and offending the 99 percent. Stupid is what comes to mind.

Then there’s the story of the waitress who says she lost her job because she wore a Tea Party bracelet to work. If it’s true, then stupid is the appropriate word:

Megan Geller tells the [Northwest Herald] newspaper a couple she was serving at the local Outback Steakhouse took offense and complained. Geller said her mother, Tonya Franklin, got the bracelet at a Tea Party event, and a couple dining at the restaurant did not like it and asked for the manager, the Northwest Herald reported.

Again, this is a private business, and this particular Outback restaurant has the right to fire anybody for whatever reason (although the law says otherwise). If the bracelet incident happened as Geller states (the restaurant tells a different story), then this local Outback was stupid to fire her. A lot more customers could be offended. Here’s what not to do:

After Geller was fired, a group rallied in front of the Outback Steakhouse, waving American and Gadsden flags and accusing the restaurant of violating her free speech rights, the Northwest Herald reported.

If we want government out of our pocket books, then let’s keep it out of our businesses. I want the right to hire and fire anybody I want for any reason whatsoever. The idea that Geller’s free speech rights were trampled is nonsense. The First Amendment applies to the government not individuals.

If Geller’s story turns out to be true, the people of Crystal Lake, Illinois, can make their own decision on what they want to do. “To eat or not to eat?”

Case in point. "An Iowa baker who politely declined to provide a wedding cake for two lesbians based on her Christian values may face legal action from the couple." If the two lesbians don't like the views of the baker, then they should take their cake business elsewhere. It's not this woman's cake business if she can't sell to whom she wants to sell. The baker is willing to forfeit money for the sake of her principles. Everybody should respect her for it.

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  • Doug Harms

    The Tigard, Oregon Costco posted signs in its parking lot that all participants in a nearby TEA Party rally would have their vehicle towed if they parked in their lot. I have not set foot in that store ever since! There are at least 3 other Costco stores in the area!

    • http://yahoo.com Thomas Martin

      Good for you, keep up your thoughts

    • Mike

      Thanks for letting me know, Doug. My membership expires next month. If that's their policy than I will not renew mine.

    • JimB3

      The problem is, the left does not want to give the same respect to the opinions or beliefs of the right. So, if they're going to play the gotcha game and sue conservatives, it only goes to follow that conservatives will retaliate. I agree that business should be left out of it, somewhat. While they have the right to keep/let-go anyone any time for any reason; as far as I'm concerned, I equally have the right to stop using their business and, if it's gotten real nasty, to stand in the public space in front of their business and tell the world what a moron they are.

    • stephenfroweblog

      While I think that Costco should have put more thought into the wording of their signs, I fully support their right to post and enforce the signs. The fact is, their parking lot is on their private property and is for the use of their patrons. Their patrons should not be inconvenienced to make attendance to a TEA party event easier, or for any other group. Before I boycotted Costco I would ask them the intent of their signs. My guess is that they figured that their parking lot would be filled with no paying, non patrons and they would loose business. I would suggest to them that they might either put up signs stating that the use of their parking lot is for their patrons only, or event parking is not permitted, or, even, due to the expected large attendance to the TEA party event, we can not allow parking as it will interfere with our patrons. If you know anything about Costco and their management, you would know they, if not outright supportive of the TEA party, at least lean in that direction. I would go and talk with them. I'll bet if you brought it to their attention they would probably put an appology and explanation in the local newspaper.

      • TooToo

        I agree with you stephen. Costco is a business and although I fully support the TEA Party, they should not take it upon themselves to park in Costco's lot. The lot is on private property for customers of Costco. But then again, Costco should have been more neutral, by stating that parking is for Costco customers ONLY. And the TEA Partiers should respect the wishes of private ownership. Let's NOT lower ourselves by becoming OBNOXIOUS as the Occupiers and other squatters have done. We have more class than that! Let's show our class and not align ourselves with the radical lefties!!

    • weldcentraltrack

      Costco does not believe in the 2nd ammendment either...

      • Charlie

        You'll have to explain yourself on this one. I'm always carrying unless I'm going to church or a government building where it's not allowed. I go into Costco stores on average three times a week and have never had any problems. But then I keep the gun concealed so they don't know I have it.

  • William

    I wouldn't shop at any of the other COSTCO stores either as you are still benefitting a company that disrespects our AMERICAN right to free speech. While I do believe they just wanted to keep parking spaces open for their customers, the signs were poorly worded and could have said "parking spaces are reserved for customers only, all others will be towed" and I don't think anyone would have a problem with that.... I also would never park in their lot if I am not going to be shopping there....

    • Doug Harms

      I was actually going to run in and buy some stuff after the rally. The signs were very demeaning to TEA Party patriots, so I parked over by Babies R Us. Costco is a fairly conservative company - just look at their book selections if you doubt me - a far cry from Powell's, so I think this this was a local manager decision. It is his/her loss in this so far still free-market society. I did share this on FB and at TEA Party meetings.

    • Texan

      Very good comment William.

    • JIM 28th Reg.

      The last I heard COSTCO was owned by China. Don't that for a fact but when I dellivered freight to their San Fran store they treated me like dirt. That was 10/15 years ago and haven't set foot in any of their stores since that time.

    • guest

      Have avoided Costco since their store draws thousands of mexicans weekly. They are rude; terrible about driving laws and many have no insurance. I'm not a big spender so they wont miss me. Maybe they would like to supply water for an opposing event sometime? It is suspected they gave the water bottles for the numerous teenagers who over ran our streets because they dont like our state's laws about illegal immigration.

  • Mayflower Decendent

    Great article!

  • Patriot1776

    You have to stand for something or you'll fall for anything. This great nation was founded and developed by men and women who had high morals and christian values and believe in them enough to stand up against the mightiest military force in the world. Today, we have become a nation that is afraid to stand for anything because it might offend some obscure, often perverted special group. We have gotten to where very few people are willing to stand up for their beliefs, they would rather give away their freedom and not offend someone than to take a stand. No wonder we have a president that goes around appologizing for us.

    • Jstarusa

      You are absolutely right! Just like our Christian faith. If we do not stand up for it now, we may not be able to later. I know it says turn the other cheek, but that cheek is getting awful red now, and I think its time to straighten out these politically correct people!

  • Linda

    Doug,
    A Costco parking lot is part of a private business, designed to accommodate their customers and employees while they are there on business. It is not a municipal or commuter parking lot. How would you feel if you went to shop at that Costco and couldn't shop because there was no place to park?

    As for businesses having a right to employ people "at will" this is not a violation if the policy is made clear to employees at hiring, or at scheduled employee meetings when policies are initiated. Some people may object to my wearing my pentagram, or someone else wearing a crucifix, but if the policy is no religious symbols of any kind during working hours, that's the business owner's choice, although it may limit the number of workers he can find to hire from.

    Personally, i think a lot of people are way too easily offended, to the point of spending time looking for things to be offended about.

    • Groundhog Fan

      Linda, you are so right. I always recall my mother saying, "Those who are looking to be offended are NEVER disappointed."

      The truth is, in the U.S. no one is guaranteed not to be offended. Buck up and get over yourself, folks.

      Rhonda

    • tpm44

      had i been the resturant manager i woudl have 2 options, ask the server to remove the bracelet because..... or tell the customer that you will not serve anyone who does not respect the rights of others.. i am a businmeess owner and i have chosen the latter every time, especially if it is a valued employee. it is a no brainer

    • J Frobe

      Employment at will is the law of the Land. Like it or hate it it is the law. Being a member of a recognized labor union or Civil service unit affords Americans some protection against this type of legislation.

      An employer absent a union or Civil Service protection can discharge ANY employee for ANY reason or even NO reason and it is legal in America.

      • Soldier of Fortune

        Actually it's state law that governs whether or not employees are considered 'at will' as well as whether the state is 'right to work' or not. For example, Washington State is an 'at will' state but not 'right to work.'

  • Smeethow

    What religion is Santa Claus any way? He doesn't discriminate in who he gives gifts too. He's give a gift to a Jewish or muslim patient or any other faith. Seems the 1 or 5 % that have a problem with Christmas just want to make all of us as miserable as they are. Have a little tolerance yourselves.

    • J Frobe

      Santa Claus AKA St Nicholas of Myra was a Christian who lived during the 4th Century in what is today Modern Turkey.

  • http://yahoo.com Thomas Martin

    Liberalism is a cancer, and all democrats have it.

    • OBAMAHATER4SURE

      In the case of liberals it is a non curable disease and they are terminally ill so therefore,
      all conservatives should just pack their guns and when you talk to a liberal and get their
      opinion about a matter and have determined them to be a liberal then just go ahead and
      shoot them but make sure they die in front of another liberal, so they can spread the word
      what is going to happen to them if they don't change their outlook on life. Soon this cancer
      will be an extinct disease.

      Just kidding but it makes for a good problem solution, don't ya think.

    • Chris P

      You people are a bunch of ignorant and dangerous thugs. You have no clue about reality. SO dumb that you don't know how dumb you are. You call yourselves Christians and then go on about killing people - how moronic can you be .

      Total hate and stupidity 24/7

      • Jstarusa

        I did not see where Obamahater stated he/she was a Christian. I presume he/she was joking, at least I sure hope so! Thats a bad atitude for any side to have!

  • Santa

    In these troubled and stressful Times, do not dispair or fret over some people`s lack of Faith or belief in me...
    I`ll always be around (especially during this time of year) to spread Hope, cheer, and most of all, Good Will to ALL Mankind...S. Claus

  • grandmaliberty

    And I will continue to say Merry Christmas instead of happy holidays... and I have never had anyone get mad at me for saying it....

    • Doug Harms

      I had a Macy's employee tell me that they are forbidden to say Merry Christmas, but then she said she didn't care about their policy anhd she wished me a Merry Christmas!

    • Dani B

      Ditto!

    • http://www.michigandersforlife.com Carl G. Oehling

      I always Say "Have a Blessed Birthday Party. 364 days a year it isn't their birthday and get a response. And I conclude "That is just the point" or That is why I used the word blessed". Even an atheist can say Merry Christmas to be polite or politically correct.

  • Texan

    Linda, you are absolutely correct, however, they could have thought the deal through (like William) and said that the parking was only for patrons, not that is was not for the Tea Party people. I do believe that people are too easily offended and should get over themselves. It seems to be all about "Me" and to hell with everyone else. Businesses have gone off the deep end and are trying to regulate way too much as is the government. The biggest problem we have here in the good ol USA is that common sense has been regulated out of existence.

    • Tom

      Common sense MUST prevail or America is sunk. Will everyone in South Carolina contact that Cancer Center and let them know you want Santa back. I'm not going anywhere that Santa isn't welcome. Merry Christmas to ALL.

      • Santa

        Thank you Tom, and a Merry Christmas to you and your Family

    • sam37

      Concurrent with common sense is POLITICAL CORRECTNESS! Such nonsense! This is America. If you don't like it, we won't mind if you leave - and don't let the door hit you in your backside on the way out!

    • Taquoshi

      I've become increasingly concerned about the vindictivness of people over the past few years. There is a business principal that the customer is always right, but there are areas where it is not the customer's business. I have witnessed a number of incidents personally and read about others where someone took offense at something and demanded the other person be fired or punished in some draconian way.

      Demanding that someone lose their job for some minor perceived offense is ridiculous. Where does this end?

      Right now, some fifth grade student in California has been expelled from school because he though that a local newscaster was the President. The newcaster's daughter took offense and the kid got kicked out of school. Others have been in court because they had a cross necklace or ring on at work. A judge on the Tenth Circuit Court ruled against four Colorado high school students for wearing T-shirts with U.S. Flags on them on May 5th. It apparently is okay on the 4th or the 6th, but not on the 5th?

      People are bizarre.

  • F Stookey

    To the auther -- Where do you think you're coming from by saying "The First Amendment applies to the government not individuals?" That is the first time I have seen that in writing! You must be smoking rope if you really believe that.

    • RivahMitch

      Sorry... When I read the First Amendment it appears to me that the predicate phrase is "Congress shall make no law". Would you explain how that applies to an individual or business?

    • Will

      Little F.y, Better read the Constitution of the United States .

    • Vicki

      @F Stookey The First Amendment clearly states that CONGRESS shall make no law...... Court cases have since extended this restriction to state and local governments.

      Keep in mind the Creator given right to speak does not include a right to an audience. The First Amendment only says that government can not restrict your speech. It does not say we have to listen. If we do not want to listen we can walk away or send you away if you are on our property.

  • Rusty Hanes

    I hope I don't offend anyone, but, F islam, F allah, F thier glorious warmongering pedefile prophet mohammad and F all muslims living in our country, including the swine in the whitehouse. happy kwanzaa to all intelectually superior liberals, from one of the "little people".

    • URKiddinMee

      Rusty, I fear that you are too repressed and are afraid to state what you REALLY think. Perhaps some assertiveness training should be planned for your future. LOL

    • Drake

      That's the best post yet.

    • Are You Serious

      Rusty, I could not agree more. Great post !!!!

    • Chris P

      Are you really as stupid as you sound.

    • J Frobe

      Uhhh Rusty? Too late Dude! You have already offended most Muslims any non Democrats and a lot of Christians. Take 2 bars of soap and try again tomorrow. Happy Kwanzaa to you as well.

  • Chris

    LInda: in response....I agree with you on most counts. I think what Doug is saying is that he too agreed with the policy of not parking there but the offense came when the sign was demeaning towards Tea Party members and downright rude (would love to know what it said by the way!) If I'd been there I would have walked in and calmly complained about the wording to the manager on duty. I agree - I would want to park in that businesses' parking spots if I were shopping there so just put the sign up as Doug worded it instead! Why the cut towards a peaceful group? Bet it wouldn't have been put up at ALL had this been an Occupy event!

    In regards to the businesses - they have their right to run it the way they want, agreed. However, I also agree that their policies need to be stated up front. Unless this employee had been given the requisite number of warnings about wearing something that she shouldn't be wearing on duty and refused to take it off, she had no right to be fired and I hope someone takes up her case legally. I hate to say that because I too feel people use that too much but if our side doesn't take up their cases at this point in time, we're done for. We're fighting up upward battle right now and need to keep fighting. My husband and I had the discussion about the wedding cake business - he felt they had no right to refuse since once they became a business, they gave up that right to refuse based on beliefs. I still happen to agree with the fact that they have a right to refuse whomever they want based on their religious beliefs I guess. If they don't want the money, then so be it. In today's day and age, businesses who refuse to serve someone who is gay or something else that they don't agree with will forfeit much more than that sale becasue of our age of FB, twitter, etc. Their business will be blasted and it will hurt them.

    • james

      No It will not hurt the business unless they are in sf califonia.

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      Your husbands view that businesses check their rights at the door when they become a business is just unbelievable. Remember, this is still 'the land of the Free' and those rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness still apply whether I am an employee or employer.

      I am always free to discriminate to whom I will serve. We choose whom to work for, right? No one coerces us to work for a particular person or company, yet there are plenty of people or companies who we might refuse to work for.

      The same is true of companies who make things or provide services. If the companies morals are violated by the customer, then they always have the right to refuse service to anyone...whether that decision hurts their future business is up to the market place, not the government.

      Yet the government continues to want to foist its powers where they do not belong, for if they silence the speech of people or businesses, they violate the 1st Amendment. We continue to experience an unconstitutional government each and every time it constrains our beliefs by objecting to our rejection of acquiescing to someone else's worldview.

    • Jim D.

      Maybe they are African Americans lesbians! What would happen if they refused to sell a cake to a black person?

    • Jim D.

      What if the lesbians were African American? Would they be liable to a cival rights violation?

  • Matakuching

    A few years ago, when target refused to allow the Salvation Army bell ringers in front of their stores, my wife and i stopped patronizing Target for 5 years and shopped somewhere instead. I agree, any business that panders to a small group should reap the consequences of lost business to them.

  • J Pro

    I am a business owner. That being said, I do what it is, I, like. If someone dissagrees, that is okay. If someone agrees, that is okay. Try to sue me for my beliefs and I will counter-sue. This is NOT negotiable.

    • clh

      Good for you. It is your business and YOU have the RIGHT to serve whomever or not. The government should NOT have the right to tell you who you can and cannot serve. Hell, they work for us and don't listen to our wishes.

  • J Pro

    Here in America all citizens have the right to pratice a religion of choice. That does not make it right to hold it against anyone. You practice what the hell you like. But, leave me the hell alone. If you don't like my opinion/s s.f.w.

  • Dani B

    All I can say is...I doubt very much that Tea Party supporters would complain about a waitress wearing an Obama bracelet. The Tea Party is ALL ABOUT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!!

    • Chris P

      The tea party is about making money for the rich - Oh clueless one. It's backed by Americans for Prosperity. 90% of what they tell you is pure BS.

  • Carol

    What has our Wonderful USA come to that we have to bow and scrape to others that aren't Americans and change for others when others don't change for us.

    Sounds like we fear what might happen to us if we stay the way we always have Freedoms of choice, Speech and so many other things ever since this idiot President we have everything has changed and we need him OUT NOW actually but we have to wait until 2012.

    • GDC

      You are an American? What tribe?

      • Shot in the Foot

        cherokee and choctaw. There is a difference in native American and American. If you are born here you are American. Let me guess you are pure blood. I doubt it.

    • Chris P

      I doubt there are any Republicans as smart as Obama. You just have to see the present bunch of clowns vying for their nomination.

    • Gale

      It has come to people falling for anything because they never had to fight for this country. The govt.
      should have never ended the draft. All they know is gimme. The draft ended in 73. That's a lot of
      years of gimme.

  • SEAN MURRY

    where i live we dont have any costo stores if we did i would take my business some where else i dont like stores like that.

  • SEAN MURRY

    In other words screw them.

  • 1949

    2 CH 7:14
    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

  • GDC

    Religion/ spiritualism IS a mental sickness and ALL who believe in ANY Religion/ spiritualism ARE mentally sick, delusional, psychotic!

    BOISE, Idaho (AP) — An Idaho man accused of firing an assault rifle at the White House believed he was Jesus and thought President Barack Obama was the Antichrist, according to court documents and those who knew him. At one point, he even suggested to an acquaintance the president was planning to implant computer tracking chips into children.
    Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez, 21, was charged Thursday with attempting to assassinate the president or his staff. He is accused of firing nine rounds at the White House last Friday night — one of them cracking a window of the first family's living quarters — when Obama and the first lady were away. If convicted, Ortega faces up to life in prison.

    This is an example of what happens to one when they can no longer compartmentalize their psychosis RELIGION.

    • Swampfox

      An Idaho man accused of firing an assault rifle at the White House believed he was Jesus and thought President Barack Obama was the Antichrist

      At least part of this statement may be true.

    • Highsider

      GDC, your post is an example of what happens to one when they can no longer compartmentalize your particular psychotic religious belief, atheism.

    • Barbara

      You will think again when you stand before the judgement throne, but then it will be too late. You have every right to believe what you want,, I would just think hard before coming to the above conclusion. Eternity is a very long time.

    • Katie2011

      AWW GDC
      Look what you've gone and one. You will have all sorts of Christians praying for you.
      Hope it helps. God Loves You.

      • Katie2011

        ,,,gone and done...

        oops

        • Patricia Martin

          You are sick! According to you anyone who wields a gun toward another in anger is a Religious Freak.

          How about that shooting in 'Tucson last January when all those people were injured and some killed.
          The shooter has been provven to be, I think they said "bi-polar" and that has nothing to do with religion,.
          He is just a deranged individual

          Also, I believe in God and his son Jesus. If I am wrong I have nothing to lose. If I am right, I have everything
          to gain. You believe what you want and I will believe what I want. We both have that right!

    • Gale

      God says Religion will destroy you. Look at what it has done to other countries that call themselves
      religious. They are killing each other. The only way to God is through his son Jesus, not religion.

    • Andrea B

      I wonder if Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez is here legally.

      If not, one would wonder if Obama may want to reconsider his immigration policies.

      Ron Paul 2012

    • SEAN MURRY

      Wrong only one where is the proof goofball? you must have mental issues.

    • Linda

      Why do you care so much what people believe? I try to judge people on how they act toward others. My neighbors are perfectly free to believe in God, Jesus, Allah, the Annunaki, the Great First Cause or invisible pink ponies prancing on their lawn, so long as they behave as good neighbors.

      I do believe Ortega-Hernandez is mentally ill. After all, the family quarters of the White House seems to be the least likely place to actually find Obama.

    • Rocky63

      A man who thinks he is Jesus has a mental problem, not a religious motivation. No believer in the divinity of Jesus thinks he (the believer) is Jesus.

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  • http://twitter.com/Deepizzaguy @Deepizzaguy

    I would boycott the businesses that don't like the Tea Party and have the owner of that business beg me for mercy to return to his/her place.

    • http://www.RevolutionaryBum.com RevolutionaryBum

      I own RevolutiuonaryBum.com and hate the Tea Party. Screw you.

  • Shot in the Foot

    I guess Gdc means G__ D___ Clown. He does not know Atheism is a religion.

    • Chris P

      No it's not idiot. Go read a dictionary if you can read.

      • Soldier of Fortune

        In the dictionary I consulted it didn't define atheism as a religion, but as a belief system, just as any religion is. That dictionary also has one definition of religion as "any specific system of beliefs, practices, ethical values, etc. resembling, suggestive of or likened to such a system." Atheism seems to fit that definition in every aspect. SO if the shoe fits...

    • RevolutionaryBum

      It is not a religion. Moron.

  • OAHS

    Stay away from Outback ... I will ...

  • dragonfFIRE01

    stupid people

  • Bombshell

    I worked retail for a while and during the Christmas season we were not allowed to say "merry Christmas", we had to say "happy holidays". I am so used to saying merry Christmas that I let it slip quite a few times...no customers got upset; they all said the same thing back to me. A muslim co-worker complained to my manager. I didn't get fired but my hours were cut down to almost nothing which forced me to quit. Why is it that she can wear her head covering (even if it offends people...which it does) but I can't say a phrase that offends nobody but intolerant, ignorant, controlling bigots? If they hate free speech so much why don't they go back to where they came from?

    • Chris P

      Because you WORK for your employer. WHy don't you go back to where you came from - or are you a native American.

      • Soldier of Fortune

        Chris, that is a stupid comment. Anyone born in this country of parents who are citizens are native. I was born in this country and my ancestry is mixed, English, Dutch, Swedish and Cherokee, possibly some of other national or ethnic orgins, too. Where would you suggest I "go back to" moron?

  • Bombshell

    Chris P... I am a firm believer in free speech and freedom of religion (or non-religion). But isn't it hypocritical that Christians must be tolerant of other religions (which we should. Everyone should); but other religions not only don't have to be tolerant of the Christian faith. I don't understand how in your sick mind that freedom of religion means that muslims can pray when and where they want to but Christians cannot. muslims can preach their religion even if others don't agree but Christians can't preach what they believe because it might offend someone. For example, Christians are persecuted for stating their belief that homosexuality is wrong but it's ok for a muslim

  • Bombshell

    Cont... man to beat or kill his wife for cheating on him. For the life of me, I can't understand how Christians are the evil ones. Could you please enlighten me?

  • Bombshell

    Actually you idiot...I am half native American. So I am right where I belong.

  • Bombshell

    Also chris, you act as if liberals are generally peaceful and nonviolent. Look at the occupy protesters. Women are being raped by their own peers, police officers are attacked for trying to protect them, local shops are robbed. Why and how can anyone think that is ok? How would you feel if conservatives were the ones doing those things? Don't you see what a hypocrite you are? It's ok for you to act a certain way but if someone else does they are a gun crazed villan. I don't understand why liberals are still portrayed as open minded and accepting. If that's what you really were then you would have no problem with prayers or Santa Claus or the phrase merry Christmas or with somebody who believes differently than you. I'm a Christian but I don't see anything wrong with a muslim praying in public, or somebody who doesn't celebrate Christmas or listening to a person of another religion explain their belief system. If you can't see the hypocrisy in your viewpoint then I honestly pity you...it's hard to imagine what life must be like for someone as ignorant as that. Being open minded means accepting and valuing everybody, even if you disagree with them. You obviously have a deep resentment for anyone who thinks or acts differently than you. I would love to see you try and explain how exactly you are open minded.

  • Sandra Leathers

    GDC, I guess you will find out one day very soon, hope you find Jesus before it is too late. The Bible is playing out right before our eyes. It is so sad that the Devil has decieved you.

  • MAM-MA

    The saying by W. Somerset Maugham still holds true and becoming more and more so every day in this country.

    “IF A NATION VALUES ANYTHING MORE THAN FREEDOM, IT WILL LOSE IOTS FREEDOM;

    AND THE IRONY OF IT IS THAT IF IT IS COMFORT OR MONEY THAT IT VALUES MORE, IT WILL LOSE THAT, TOO”

  • Andrea B

    "The First Amendment applies to the government not individuals."

    What????

    • Soldier of Fortune

      Yes, it's true!

      • Soldier of Fortune

        To further explain, the First Amendment essentially states that the government can't make any law that violates the freedom of speech, religion, the press, the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government. Individuals as property and/or business owners have no requirement to allow those practices in the places they control. When the OWS protesters in different locations carried there protests into businesses, like they did in Oakland, CA entering a BoA branch, they became trespassers, possibly in the criminal sense when they intentionally disrupted the business of BoA.

  • Rich

    Some Business owners are apparently anti-american. If I was wearing a T-shirt with a cross on it and someone said they were offended, I would tell them to go somewhere else. Appareantly too many people are offended by our Nation's Flag or anything else that is Real American. Those that don't like America should be sent else where, may Iran or China would suit them better. I have no use for these Anti-American acted stupid people. I am just an old veteran, I love my country and what it used to stand for. Time to start voting these Dumb ________ out of office. And enforcing laws that are on the books. It used to be against the law to preach hate, insitigating people to set fires, assault police officers, destroy public property and even set bombs.. I think they should all be charged, tried and convicted. Maybe a little jail time would convence some of them America isn't so bad.

  • mort_f

    This jew objects to tax money being used to finance Christian, or any other religious event on government property.

    But having said that, I have volunteered to be a Santa Claus, as well as many others of my faith have. I have volunteered to replace others, in the workplace, so that they were free to celebrate holidays of their choice. I freely contribute to the Tea Party, and proudly display the American flag, both in front of my home, and on my apparel. (Except during Carter's administration, when I wore a Canadian lapel pin.)

    We do have anti-discrimination laws. No private, nor government, entity is allowed to discriminate in the conduct of their business activities. Unfortunately that discrimination seems to only apply for 'legal' minorities.

    For those who speak abbout Costco, or Outback, or Target, I will remind you about a recent employee firing at a hote in Florida, for wearing an American flag lapel pin. That hotel is a part of the Marriot chain.

  • Bill Weston

    An axiom appears to exist that states: "One lawyer in a town is obliged to do manual labor to survive; two lawyers in a town often become pillars of the comminity until one becomes a judge; then a third lawyer is sought. :) "In ten or twelve years there'll be one million lawyers. How much can this poor country stand?" A good friend of mine, an attorney, wrote that about twelve years ago.

  • mort_f

    Sorry for the few typos, this site does not have an edit function.

  • SittingMooseShaman

    ..."Boycott"...as for the two NAZI ****oles at the restaurant...continue on them where our fathers had left off back in '45...

  • PoliticallyDisgusted

    For all those who claim to have been O-fended by anything anyone does... BS... You are NOT offended. You only want to get into a pissing match with anyone who doesn't drink your Kool Aid. Get over yourself. Weak minded liberals are the only one's able to be O-fended. The rest of us just move on to something more important.

  • Blair Franconia, NH

    Santa's probably afraid of Occupy the North Pole.

  • Co-opted Confederate

    Every body has a "right to be offended!
    I personally am offended by the sheer number of acute mentally ill people who voted for Nanci Pelosi, Harry Reid, Frank Lautenberg, Barny Frank and Barak Obama that are walking the streets of america with out proper medication and or supervision.

  • Michelle

    for a religion that is sooooo tolerant they are offened pretty easily. seems to contradict itself???

  • pearl

    YOU ARE WRONG about the protest rally in front of the restaurant. If there was no public show of support and informational protest, then how would other local diners know what happened? It's called the right to assembly, Stupid, and it was exactly the right response. What would be wrong, would be if they attempted to pass a local ordinance to forbid the restaurant's actions. Some people like to set themselves up as arbiters of "proper" behavior, even while they are claiming to defend Americans freedoms. That's what you are doing here and it is a hypocritical and unjust stance that hobbles the efforts of the freedom fighters.