The Poverty Myth: Social Justice Is About Bringing the Top Down

Food StampsThis present administration is prepping the poor to vote for him this November. The dependency vote is big for Democrats. The “moochers” as radio personality Neal Boortz calls them, have learned how to game the system to their benefit. It’s like playing a slot machine that always pays.

Then there’s the black vote. We know that more than 90 percent of blacks vote Democrat because they believe the Party’s policies lift them up economically. Add to the mix that Obama’s black, and it’s a slam dunk.

A new study shows that “that the 46 million living below the so-called ‘poverty line’ live and spend pretty much like everyone else.” Consider the following:

Forget the image of Appalachia or rundown ghettos: A collection of federal household consumption surveys collected by pollster Scott Rasmussen finds that 74 percent of the poor own a car or truck, 70 percent have a VCR, 64 percent have a DVD [player], 63 percent have cable or satellite, 53 percent have a video game system, 50 percent have a computer, 30 percent have two or more cars and 23 percent use TiVo.

The government defines poverty one way for political purposes. They need more people in the poverty class in order to funnel money to them to make them dependent on government. What incentive is there for the poor to vote against their personal financial interests? Almost none.

Consider these statistics from two recent Department of Agriculture surveys cited in Rasmussen’s new book “The People’s Money”:

  • On an average day, just 1 percent of households have someone who is forced to miss a meal.
  • On any day, children are hungry in .25 percent of U.S. homes. [That’s ¼ of one percent.]
  • 96 percent of poor parents say their children were never hungry during the year because they couldn’t afford food.
  • 83 percent of the poor said they have enough to eat.

It’s not that there aren’t real poor families in America, but it’s not the numbers that Liberals throw at us. The food stamp crisis is due in part to recruitment. You’ve heard the commercials on the radio on how “you may be eligible for food stamps.”

Read the article “I Got Food Stamps and So Can You!” by an industrious student who showed how easy it is for college students to get an EBT card:

Approximately one month after I had received the first letter from [the Department of Human Services], another letter found its way to my mailbox from the Department of Human Services. I opened it up to find an EBT card with my name on it, instructions on how to activate and use the card, and the amount I could access on it per month — 200 dollars. Nothing followed-up my interview, other than the evidently pointless letter I received during the previous month.   No one ever asked for a copy of my birth certificate or Social Security card, nor for my student identification card. I answered all of their questions truthfully, but how were they to know that I was who I said I was?  Is it really this simple to obtain welfare benefits here in the United States?

As she shows, yes it is, and for a very good reason: A dependent voter is an obligated voter.

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  • MR2

    To the so-called Progressives…

    It's NOT fair that Buffet pays a lower tax rate than his secretary.
    To make it fair we should lower the secretary's tax rate.
    Since all you care about is whether it's fair or not, you should be thrilled with this idea.

    • daves

      In 2010, 5.3% of the federal budget went to low income assistance. I would much rather have my taxes spent to help the less fortunate than to see them spent on subsidies for wealthy companies.

      This is why I am a Liberal.

      • pete0097

        I am a conservative and I feel that people that are less fortunate than me DO deserve help. The problem is that the way the "help" comes has no incentive to better oneself. Now, to collect welfare, you fill out the forms and collect. If you get a job, you lose benefits dollar for dollar. That is the wrong approach. You should collect your money (which is just sustaining your life) and be able to work to earn a better life, however, the benefits should go away at maybe 10 cents on the dollar to give you the incentive to work. In addition, the deleting of the benefits should not occure until you are 30% over the poverty levels. That would be a fair system that would allow people to gain self esteme and not keep people down and out.

        • toosmarttovoteGOP

          A Progressive idea from an avowed conservative. Sir, I am impressed.

        • Phil_in_VA

          I have a confession to make, and I think this is the place to do it. I've finally found a comment on this site that's not screaming or intolerant. I have MS, also have a wife and two children. In 1994 I had a good job as a computer programmer and scientific researcher ($16/hour, also with offers to do contract work at $35/hr). I had degrees in mathematics and statistics. I was in charge of a small group of computers, back in the day when internet was for programmers. I liked to job and the people liked me. While on vacation, I fell and broke my knee. For some reason, I applied for disability from SS and was accepted without question. Instead of keeping the job, I quit, taking a non-paying research job to keep up appearances. I didn't realize what it was doing to live on child support, as my son informed me in no uncertain terms, that I'd quit when I was barely disabled. At that point I was still walking (barely… using a wheelchair for long trips. I'd neglected my son's education.. It's was self-pity on my part, though I didn't recognize it at the time… there's more to say, but I don't want to waste space on this site. Now 18 years later I can see what a trap this is.

          • Sue D'Nem

            My mom was nearly killed in a car accident a decade ago. She applied for and received disability. She couldn't stand it and took on some part time work to keep her sanity. She ultimately went back to work full time and gave up the disability. She is still disabled, but she really felt like she was being sucked into a system that was encouraging her to give up. She is making about the same as she was on disability, but she is happier working. The system is set up to discourage any sort of industry. I would really like to see that changed.

        • blessmedear

          They are wrong Pete. Your ideas are not Progressive just fair. The system under discussion was never put in place to help people have a better life; just to get votes and get power over other people.

      • MR2

        daves, I'd much rather the government use our taxes for what it is supposed to use them for – leaving us more of our money to do with as we want. Like giving it to companies or the poor.

        I'm not opposed to a helping hand, but too often government assistance turns into a self-propagating enabling system. Lets explore ideas to better our brethren instead of arguing about how to enslave them.

      • iwntmychangebck

        I'm from the gov and I'm hear to help. I'll steel 50 bcks from this guy and give you a 5 dollar cut. Don't worry its all legal. The poor deserve help and thanks to liberal big gov corruption the majority of Americans are soon gonna need help. Not to discredit the liberals pretending to be conservatives. If everyone needs help who's gonna ride in to save us? A communist country perhaps or a Muslim fanatic country maybe. A rich liberal like Obama who gives 1% to charity as he lives at the expensis of the tax payer. The poor should be helped via private institutions and religious org. Subsidies hide the fact that companies are not actually paying 30% in taxes. Since they get some of the money back. It's all a shell game we pay for via big gov. We could simply end the shell game to save everyone a lot of money. That would mean restoring a constitutional limited gov. and ending the federal reserve permanently.

      • crosshugger

        Have you ever been to the inner city and seen what your liberal policies have done to the minority community. Liberalism perverts everything it touches….

        • daves

          I live in the inner city and I see the people who are helped by various programs and I see people who abuse the programs.

          I don't believe you are correct that Liberal policies have done anything to minorities but I have an open mind. What evidence do you have?

          • crosshugger

            When people do not pay or even try to pay even a part of their tuition for a school that they reap all of the benefits yet have big SUVs or the best electronics, something is wrong. Broken homes, broken relationships, single parent homes (mostly females the head). I have real life examples not bs statistics. What a success story for that social justice run by the government. But then of course, how could democrats keep people on the plantation without goodies for votes.

      • Jonathan Gartner

        I am a conservative and I would rather have that 5.3 given to companies to create jobs than continue the eternal welfare system of slavery

        • daves

          Welfare probably accounts for about 1%.

          • Jonathan Gartner

            Take another look at the Federal Budget I will give you a clue Welfare and entitlements are alot more than that. And I am not talking about what the seniors get.

  • The Godfather

    Buffett and his secretary pay the same tax rate: http://godfatherpolitics.com/3352/obama-lied-buff

    • Barbara

      Taxes are paid on earned income. Earned Income is then invested (by some people) in stocks, bonds etc.—this money
      is taxed at a lower rate DUE to the fact that it has ALREADY BEEN TAXED as earned income. The Government needs to
      live within its means and the representatives need to quit buying votes by using tax money to fund projects in their
      Districts. Those projects should be paid for by the residents within their Districts.

    • Jonathan Gartner

      I would say Buffet pays more. The original tax on the money say 35% then pays another 15% on the returns that money earns it becomes more like 50% on the same money. Buffet still owes a billion I believe and his call for him to pay more taxes rings untrue and his other statements suspect

  • http://www.obozosamerica.com Bowie J

    All I can say is OBOZO'S AMERICA: WHY BOTHER WORKING FOR A LIVING? The board game. http://www.obozosamerica.com

    • daves

      I work because I like my job and I like having a LOT more money than I could get from Government assistance. I like being self sufficient also. I hate asking anyone for anything. Sometimes I do the charity bowling or some other event and you are supposed to get people to sponsor you. I refuse to do that and I usually sponsor myself.

      Do you work? If so, why ? (Since in Obama's America doesn't require you to.)

  • Phyllis

    Obama is black? I thought he had white granfparents and mother? He was raised by white people in Hawaii. If raised by abusers, you are more likely to be an abuser. If raised by whites, you are more likely to be white!

    • iwntmychangebck

      He will now be known as the first white black president. He was elected as black but as a failure in leading the liberals will redefine him as white. They will not want to offend anyone you know. Like Clinton has gone down in history as the first black white president for his obvious success with the ladies even if it borders exploitation or ethic issues. It a liberal thing only a liberal could understand.

    • Luan

      read his own book – he denounced his white heritage as a teenager when he found out that being black opened more opportunities. His mentor was a Communist, his mother and grandparents were Marxist. He attended muslim school enrolled as 'muslim' in Indonesia Just sayinng – doesn't matter the color of the skin – it's what is beneathe the skin that matters!

      • Jonathan Gartner

        Absolutely to everything. Plus he was a Indonesian citizen and Indonesia does not have dual citizen ship . Obama or Soetoro also vistied Pakistan on that passport and got student assistance with it. That is why he had to seal all records right after he was elected.

  • Bobseeks

    Justice is getting what you deserve, period. Those who are poor are generally getting what they deserve because the poor are generally lazy, ignorant, irresponsible, either addicted to or abusing alcohol or drugs, and they produce children they can't afford to raise. This is not prejudice, this is what I have learned through life experiences. There are exceptions of course such as those who have been made poor because of illness or misfortune but, the vast majority of the poor are poor excuses for human beings.

    • samtman

      Techristiansolution, your full of it, there were only 250,000 jews living in Germany, very few held government positions,most Jews in Germany were highly educated Doctors, lawyers buslinessman, educators , scietntists like Einstein,who contributed greatly to the German economy, just like they do here in America. In a recent survey it showed that as a percentage Jews create more Jobs here than other ethnic. If there is another holocaust against the Jews in the future, history says there will be, people like undoubdetly will play a major role. It were the Romans who put Jesus the Jew on thn the roman cross not the Jews, had Jesus not died on the cross, there would be no Christianity to day, most Christian thinkers and theologians will agree with that.

      • pete0097

        I think that you should go talk to some real historians and maybe COUNT the skulls of the victoms of the German Holocaust. There were Jews in every profession, skill, manufacturing job, or labor. There were around 6 million murdered Jews, there also were 9 million Ukrainians. A total waste of human resouuces. If Hitler had not wasted his time and manpower to eradiacate the Jews, and attacked to the east only, the western powers would have helped him take out the USSR, as we really didn't like the communists. You must be a muslim to spout out that propaganda. Look at the pictures that Eisenhower had taken of the death camps and execution chambers.

        • toosmarttovoteGOP

          I doubt he's a Muslim. Just an ignoramus.

      • Jonathan Gartner

        You are either a out right liar or just misinformed either way please get an education. There were quite a few Jew in the German Government inbetween WWI and WWII and the fact is when all the persecution started they the Jews could hardly believe it being very pro-German and very anti-Britsh please read history before opening your mouth. As for Christ it was the Jews who put him on the cross at the request of the sanherdrin the Jewish religious council for blasphemy they could not kill him by Roman Law only the Romans could. If the Romans wanted him dead for sedition they could have at any time done so during his three year ministry. If you would read scripture he healed the Centruions daughter this man would have gone before the Roman Govounor of the region to give testimony that a non citizen could not have

  • samtman

    The one percenters have taken 40% of the available dollars and taken it out of circulation. The money is sitting in gold, in stocks, in propery, in foreign investments, When your taking that much money out circulation your not creating jobs. The rich are not doing themselfes a fafvor eitherby sitting on that monye and not invsting it in America ,they will loose more than if they would invest and start creating wealth for everybody, Bushes 4.5% tax cut to the rich must be reversed and a tax cut given to the middle class who will spend it and get the economy moving faster than it is now. When GW Bush told everyody to go shopping and spending after 9/11 he knew what he was taling about.

    • pete0097

      If the 1 percenters are sitting on their money, they are fools. They have the money in stocks (which help companies hire emloyees), or bonds (which help municipalities construct infrastructure projects) They may even own companies and their cash allows the company some stability) Most of the gold investors are nations backing their currency. Some is held by people as jewelry, and some is held in small quantities by small investors. Right now, people are not investing as much (without dividends, they need something to live on) THe banks are following absurd rules that they either were dictated to by the government or by their accountants so they don't accidently loan money to someone that doesn;t pay. The big thing to investors is that they want a government that they know won't change the rules, like obama has been. Right now they should be buying stocks as they can get some good deals. (personally, right now I would buy Carnival Cruises as the price is down and we all know that people still want to cruise)

      • Jonathan Gartner

        If I was part of the 1% I would get my money were this marxist government could not touch it like the cayman islands or else where. Obama is about to launch the largest tax increase in history on everybody for his entitlement base this is not a rich mans war alone it also involves the destruction of the middle class

  • SEAN MURRY

    Obummer will try anything to get relected .

    • toosmarttovoteGOP

      Don't forget the Republicons!

      • Jonathan Gartner

        Oh really like voter fraud, Mickey Mouse and dead people voting. And lets mention also illegals, ACORN and the rest of the marxist ilk Unions, Soros, Buffet I could go on just one more the OWS and the Black Panthers. This next election will be not only chaotic but a good chance to be very bloody

  • ARMYOF69

    EBTs' and all the other WELFARE goodies will re elect this moron again .

  • larzze

    The food stamp crisis is due in part to recruitment. You’ve heard the commercials on the radio on how “you may be eligible for food stamps. Flat Stomach Exercises