Another Stupid Argument Atheists Use to Support Evolution

Atheists argue that they’re all about reason, logic, and rational argumentation. In fact, they had a big “Reason Rally” in Washington proclaiming these bedrock atheist principles. Atheists extend their paradigm by claiming that if you are not an atheist and do not believe in evolution then you are anti-science. They seem to forget that some of the world’s greatest scientists were Christians – from Isaac Newton and Robert Boyle to Johann Kepler to Michael Faraday and a whole lot more in between.

Dr. Loren Eiseley (1907-1977), a Professor of anthropology, a science history writer and evolutionist, concluded that the birth of modern science was mainly due to the creationist convictions of its founders.

“It is the CHRISTIAN world which finally gave birth in a clear articulated fashion to the experimental method of science itself ... It began its discoveries and made use of its method in the faith, not the knowledge, that it was dealing with a rational universe controlled by a Creator who did not act upon whim nor inference with the forces He had set in operation. The experimental method succeeded beyond man's wildest dreams but the faith that brought it into being owes something to the Christian conception of the nature of God. It is surely one of the curious paradoxes of history that science, which professionally has little to do with faith, owes its origins to an act of faith that the universe can be rationally interpreted, and that science today is sustained by that assumption."[1]

These facts are well known to anyone who has the inclination to learn the truth, but there are few hard-core atheists who take the trouble to research the history of the relationship between the Christian religion and the origin and development of modern science.

Then there are the arguments used by high profile atheists to support their claim that anyone who does not believe evolution has taken place from nothing to full blown human is a fool and an intellectual dolt.

In reality, it’s some arguments presented by evolutionists that are downright foolish. Consider this one from Tim Berra, professor of zoology at Ohio State University, who wrote the following in his book Evolution and the Myth of Creationism: A Basic Guide to the Facts in the Evolution Debate:

“Everything evolves, in the sense of ‘descent with modification,’ whether it be government policy, religion, sports cars, or organisms. The revolutionary fiberglass Corvette evolved from more mundane automotive ancestors in 1953. Other high points in the Corvette's evolutionary refinement included the 1962 model, in which the original 102-inch was shortened to 98 inches and the new closed-coupe Stingray model was introduced; the 1968 model, the forerunner of today's Corvette morphology, which emerged with removable roof panels; and the 1978 silver anniversary model, with fastback styling. Today's version continues the stepwise refinements that have been accumulating since 1953. The point is that the Corvette evolved through a selection process acting on variations that resulted in a series of transitional forms and an endpoint rather distinct from the starting point. A similar process shapes the evolution of organisms.”[2]

Claiming that the evolution of an automobile is in any way similar to the evolution of a human being is the epitome of irrationality, especially when you begin with the unprovable and unscientific premise that the stuff of the cosmos came into existence out of nothing and that matter without the benefit of organized information evolved into complex biological entities.

Berra equivocates on the definition of “evolves.” The so-called evolution of the Corvette required numerous designers. It took intelligence of a personal nature to manufacture the Corvette. The Corvette did not come into existence or “evolve” by chance.

Notes:
  1. Loren Eiseley, Darwin's Centenary: Evolution and the Men who Discovered it, Doubleday: New York, 1961), 62. []
  2. Tim Berra, Evolution and the Myth of Creationism: A Basic Guide to the facts in the Evolution Debate (Stanford, CA: Stanford University Press, 1999), 118–119. []

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  • Robalou01

    I was once on a plane that had an engine explosion in mid-flight...The plane dropped 10,000 feet before by some miracle the pilots were able to recover the aircraft and land safely... In that moment of extreme crisis the real miracle was that all of a sudden there were no more atheists on the plane!

  • Robalou01

    I was once on a plane that had an engine explosion in mid-flight...The plane dropped 10,000 feet before by some miracle the pilots were able to recover the aircraft and land safely... In that moment of extreme crisis the real miracle was that all of a sudden there were no more atheists on the plane!

  • Eubulus

    The National Academy of Sciences should be renamed "of Pseudo-Science."  This is their premise: there is no God. From that they deduce: therefore, molecules-to-man evolution must be true. This is a priori, dark age pseudo-science.  I recommend the book: SOWING ATHEISM: THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES' SINISTER SCHEME TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN THEY'RE DESCENDED FROM REPTILES. Our nation cannot progress morally, spiritually, or politically so long as we allow them to teach our children this anti-Creator nonsense.

  • Peter

    All you have to do to debunk the theory of evolution is try to explain it clearly. The more you get into the details, the more you realize it doesn't have any answers.

    • http://twitter.com/BradNova Brad Nova

       There is more evidence to support the theory of evolution than there is to support the theory of gravity. Look it up.

      What do you folks think? That dinosaurs never existed? Or do you think that there were humans on earth at the same time dinosaurs were?

      • LouiseCA

        There is no evidence to support the theory of evolution. Anyone who read the Bible knew dinosaurs existed long before any theory of evolution came along.

      • Peter

        If there was any evidence you could provide it instead of just saying it exists.

        The core principle of evolution, that life came from non-life, violates the known laws of thermodynamics. Things do not organize themselves. Scientists have not created life even in a laboratory under "Ideal" conditions.

        Yes, dragons existed.

        • Carpenter4Liberty

          And that must be why there are so many in our museums today, along with mermaids and unicorns and elves.

          Evidence?  Millions of years of fossil records were "put there" by God to test our 'faith"?(beat you to it)

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q4PBY7UM6H4DB6UIRPYJH3BBEU Mel N

          The Law of Non
          Contradiction is the worst enemy of secular atheists. They will say that All
          life can be traced back to a primordial “soup” and that the Universe is 13
          Billion years old. What they won't tell you is that by their own theory, 13
          Billion years isn’t even a fraction of the time it would require of such a
          “dumb” theory. They will not discuss the Transcendant Cause of the Universe
          because they don’t have one. They may try to throw out an Inflation Field as a
          “possibility” but the Inflation Field itself requires Anthropic fine tuning.
          The secular atheist would have us believe a fary tale likened unto a person
          walking into the TajMahal and making the absurd assertion that the bricks,
          mortar and wood BY CHANCE, assembled themselves over 13 Billion years all the
          while failing to address where the matter came from to assemble the very
          materials that make up the bricks, mortar and wood that make up the Grand Taj
          Mahal that is our Anthropically fine tuned and orderly Universe

      • Glennd

         Brad,
        I've been looking it up for years, and still have not come across any objective evidence to support evolution. Should I consider it proof, because dinosaurs existed? I can accept gravity, because I have yet to see an apple fall up from an apple tree, by itself. For some reason, it seems to make sense, as opposed to evolution.

        I can work up the faith to believe in God. I can't work up enough faith to believe in accidents making everything better.

        • Gmspears

          We know gravity is real because we can not float in the air without help. If an apple come loose from the tree it falls to the ground, it does not float up in the air.

      • Mechmorph

         More evidence for evolution than for gravity? Let's see: Gravity's effects can be seen every second of every day, even right now as I type this. Gravity can be measured. Gravity can be used in experiments. What gravity will do is easily predicted. Evolution on the other hand: Can't be seen in action, can't be measured, can't be tested in a lab, and can't be predicted. The only "evidence" for evolution is subjective or manipulated and open to at least two interpretations, rather than a clear "right" answer. So what kind of moron are you? I know, an "evolved" one.

        • FletchGuy

          Kinda wrong evolution can be shown can be tested and can be seen in action
          today in man different species. God or religion has absolutly no provavble
          evidence and is entirely faith based. Evolution as an idea as a whole has been
          proven many many times but I am guessing your referenceing only the evolution of
          humanes which can only be shown back few hundred thousand years.

        • Gmspears

          If something evoleved out of nothing, why do we give live birth and the baby, human or animal, is the same species as its parents.

        • FletchGuy

          I never said that so I would not know. I said evolution is truth and proven  I never gave an explanation for the creation of the first life force or where it came from as that has yet to be proven in any way shape or form.

        • Kmd4excel

          Fletch, you have said a couple of times now that "evolution" has been proven. Show your proof. Further, Brad is wrong. Gravity is not a theory, it is a scientific law as in "Newton's Law of Gravity".

        • Wlhalh

          I see your spell check is not working. Better learn to spell!

        • FletchGuy

           No I do not use it as this is an informal blog or posting area. I do see you are trying to be the grammar police, yet you begin a sentence with incorrect grammar as a sentence needs to have a subject predicate to be correct and yours begins with the word "Better" which also is incorrect.
          To try and correct someone for grammar and then use incorrect grammar ones self does not help ones case.

          This site also does not include a spell check option operation and I type directly into the comment box. I do not type then cut and paste my comments to the site.

        • Tk3taylor

          Wow, too many recessive genes. Genetics is not evolution, it was discovered by a Christian using peas. Genetics, DNA, recombining genes, GMO stuff all real. Evolution is a theory that has never been replicated and not supported by the fossil record.

        • Saabforever

           I believe that the 2nd law of physics says that nature given to itself goes to it's simplest form.  A banana peel doesn't turn itself into a banana split. The question is if we evolved from a simple cell, where did that simple cell come from.  The fact that humans, dogs, horses etc have hearts and livers etc and you believe that it just happened.  Lots of luck.  As far as believing in Christ.  I've laid hands on people with injuries and they have been healed.  I've seena mans leg grow 2 inchs so that both legs were the same length. But you wouldn't believe it if you saw it.  Your mind is closed to the truth.  Here is the real reason for your unbelief:
          1Joh 3:16  For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not die but have eternal life.
          Joh 3:17  For God did not send his Son into the world to be its judge, but to be its savior.
          Joh 3:18  Those who believe in the Son are not judged; but those who do not believe have already been judged, because they have not believed in God's only Son.
          Joh 3:19  This is how the judgment works: the light has come into the world, but people love the darkness rather than the light, because their deeds are evil.
          Joh 3:20  Those who do evil things hate the light and will not come to the light, because they do not want their evil deeds to be shown up.

        • Robyn

          What can you expect from  someone who cannot even spell or create a reasonable sentence????  And they call us Christians stupid, dumb hicks.

          Obviously this anti-Christian person reasons just as well as he spells.  Absolute proof of the dumbing down of our education system (which includes evolution). isn't it?????

        • Libertarian58
      • Gmspears

        We know gravity is real because we can not float in the air without help. If an apple come loose from the tree it falls to the ground, it does not float up in the air.

        I do believe dinosaurs existed but were destroyed when God had Noah build the Ark and flooded the world.

      • Mysnt

        You ever wonder how ancient drawings of dinosaurs found all around the world got there? Maybe the dinosaurs themselves drew them since there weren't any people around to see one. Actually the book of Job describes dinosaurs. Of course the word dinosaur was not coined until the 1800's. The thing about atheist evolutionists is that they are ignorant of the facts out there that confirm the existence of the Creator and the faulty pillar that macro-evolution attempts to stand on. Or is it that they refuse to look at the evidence. I believed in evolution at one time until I decided to see why people like Sir Issac Newton and many other scientist believe in Jesus Christ and or the God of the Bible. I was amazed at the many books written with the tons of facts provided to support the Christian faith. At one time I thought it was silly. But the Way, the Truth and the Life, who is Jesus opened my eyes when I chose to look into it myself. There many books on evolution that make it sound feasible on the surface. But there are a lot of "perhaps," "maybes," "possibleys" and so on. I went with "Thus sayeth the Lord."

      • Mario Limon

        Hi Brad,
        First of all, Gravity is a LAW, not a theory. In the scientific world, if you have an idea, it's called a hypothesis. If the hypothesis proves true, it's then called a theory. If the theory then proves to be true, it then moves to scientific law, i.e., the law of gravity. Evolution never moved from theory into law, but has somehow been the exception to move from theory into "truth".  This is Elementary School Science.
        http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistry101/a/lawtheory.htm

        • Elementary School Science

           This is all quite wrong!

          First, theories do NOT become laws:

          A law explains something specific.
          A theory is a broad collection of explanations.

          From your own link: "One way to tell a law and a theory apart is to ask if the description gives you a means to explain 'why'."
          Gravity is both a law and a theory, btw.

          Secondly, Evolution has not "moved from theory into truth"! As a theory, it is the best explanation available, and the great thing about science is it adapts when new information is discovered. Even if something contradictory is discovered, the theory (or law) is corrected.

      • Libertarian58
    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q4PBY7UM6H4DB6UIRPYJH3BBEU Mel N

      http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html

      The lies of the false science of evolution.

      • FletchGuy

        Lol whoever wrote that article has very little knowledge of evolution and genetic change. They are obviously pushing their belief in god creations. Yes you get genetic sterilization no one denies that but that is part of where evolution branches. If certain genetic code is passed and lets see 3 new variations come from these groups and one group mates amongst itsself and the genetic defect of reproduction failure becomes prevalent that line stops or dies out or it must continue with an outside gene pool . Of those 3 groups lets say the other 2 groups do not have the genetic sterilization due to largely differnt original gene pools. Tnat pool may go for centuries without change then cross paths with an outside gene pool member which then refreshes and adds more possible gentic code to the colony which decrease possible related genetic sterilization. Not all pools survive which is part of....evolution. That writer of that article obviously does not understand basic science or gentics and is making things up to support his personal belief. He must use fact and not personal opinion which is what he used. Sorry article fail..

        • Will

           You are the poor soul. Good luck.

        • Dirigo

          Since Darwin was the one who came up with the theory of evolution.... And even stated himself that life was too complex to have happened through evolution, and believed we came from a higher being, why do you all still tote the theory of evolution?    I do believe that we all can evolve genetically over time but that creation itself came from a higher power as Mr. Darwin himself believed.

        • B_R_Deadite99

          That particular quote is taken out of context by creationists all the time. Darwin was saying that if he encountered a biological mechanism that was to complex to have evolved, his theory would be in trouble. But then in the next sentence he said that he did not believe that to be the case, and to this day, we have yet to see any organisms that could not have adapted and overcame through natural selection.

        • Seanmatth

           Hi, FletchGuy. The article writer, Gary DeMar, does not believe in macroevolution. Microevolution is something just about everyone agrees with. Regards.

        • Buckshotjoe1

          Evolution is all about being self centered and answerable to an accidental and idiotic notion that YOU are a god unto yourself. That being the case create something out of nothing if you are so powerful.

        • ThisWebsiteSucks

          it is about accepting facts

        • B_R_Deadite99

          You're retarded. Evolution doesn't make any statement about gods, souls, or any other mythical clap-trap. You need to think for yourself.

        • Mysnt

          Code can only come from intelligence so this "certain genetic code" where did it come from? I bet you don't even realize what you just wrote is speculation on your part or lets say a theory. It's not based on any fact whatsoever. So again I ask how did this "code" come into existence? Was anyone there to observe this? I'm sorry but Jesus was there in the begining and He is the Creator. I find Him more credible than you. He that calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

          By the way there is no, none, zilch and not any fossil evidence for macro-evolution. Also another by the way you have to have the DNA complete for life to be life you can't have a piece of DNA without RNA and have it sit there waiting for another piece of DNA to make it life. You CAN'T have non-life begin life. Scientific FACT! Did you know God commended His love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us? Did you know this? Am I now your enemy because I tell you the truth?

        • B_R_Deadite99

          God of the Gaps fallacy. Just because we do not know for sure how life came into being does not mean that a magical, petty, selfish Hebrew sky-god did it.

          Macroevolution has been proven. The entire fossil record debunks Cretinism in all it's forms. If not, explain Tiktaalik, and the fact that every layer of the strata is so distinct from the others (physiologically speaking) that scientists have been able to form the Geologic Time Scale, and using evolutionary facts, been able to classify and catalog the entire rock record, which would be impossible if evolution was not true. Also, explain the blind Texas salamander and Professor Lenski's E. Coli experiment.

    • Jack Parker

      Like all the clear non-contradictory tenets of x-tianity (sarcasm).  Evolution is straighforward, clear and relatively simple compared to christianity (or any religion).  Before you dare to push your misbegotten belief in christianity (which is based on  a book of myths, allegories, superstitions, contradictions, vagueness and falsehoods), show me a single piece of objective evidence for the existence of god.  You can't.  But evolution is based on over a hundred years of objective evidence and painstaking reason.  Sure, as new fossile evidence is discovered, there are minor adjustments to certain aspects of the time lines of evolution.  But nothing has ever been discovered that disproves evolution of supports creationism.  Evolution is a fact and creationism is a myth.  Get used to it or show me some objective evidence to the contrary.

      • Tk3taylor

        There is none so blind as he who refuses to see that evolution takes more blind faith than believing in a creator.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S5S3D4WGP63MU3JPJW3KZQXGWA Jack

           You obviously can't read.  Show me a single piece of  objective evidence evidence for the validity of creationism.  You can't 'cause there isn't any.  However, there are billions of years of evidence for evoluti0n.  Who's blind?

        • Guest

          Haay Jack,

          How do you go about PROVING that evolution is completely random?  As Tk3taylor says, it takes a lot more faith to believe evolution is random than it does to believe that there is an intelligence behind it.  What is behind the laws of nature?  Friend, you can't prove your case,  Name calling isn't proof.

        • Mysnt

          Actually the evidence evidence for creation is Jesus Christ! If you CAN read look into the life of Christ. The fulfilled prophecies, the changed lives of His followers from Peter to present day Christ followers. There is so much evidence for Jesus being exactly who He claimed to be. His death and resurrection are a fact. A conclusion if HONESTLY looked into all would come to. There's so much evidence against macro-evolution, but those that don't want to look are as the bible reads "men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." lookup 'Evolution Cruncher' on the Internet. Also lookup fulfilled bible prophecy especially fulfilled by Jesus. Historically, scientifically, archaeologically and mathematically the truth of Christ's life, suffering, death, resurrection has been proven. I was an atheist and evolutionist. I read from many evolution supported books and it's all a sham. I highly recommend you read a book called 'Cosmos Creator and Human Destiny' by Dave Hunt. It's awesome!

        • Springman97

           Good stuff Mysnt! Thanks for your witness for Christ.

        • guest1

          If evolutionists were to ever admit that the creation model can be tested, examined, or considered, then they relinquish the upper hand in the debate and risk losing their “aren’t you ashamed of your ignorance?” tactic. Evolutionists choose to ridicule creation rather than investigate it. But a stream of doubts rightly plagues the secular origins story. It posits that everything came from nothing for no reason, that stars and planets were organized from dust clouds with nobody there to organize them, and that living cells emerged from chemicals despite the fact that life never arises from chemicals in either natural or well-designed laboratory settings.

        • Springman97

           Billions of years? Jack you should read back to yourself what you just posted. How old are u? How many years has mankind been on the earth? Who actually "observed and documented" all this so-called evidence? Questions to ponder.

        • Pjk3

          Jack, it is all around you.  Your blind belief in evolution has blinded you

        • Pjk3

          Jack, with all the billions of years there is NOT ONE chain of fossil records showing evolution. Evolutionist take one fossil and then another with a few minor simularities from millions of years later and claim one morphed into the other.

        • B_R_Deadite99

          No proof, just B.S. Typical.

      • Libertarian58

        Please explain to me how evolution is in accord with the second law of thermodynamics.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S5S3D4WGP63MU3JPJW3KZQXGWA Jack

           Another ignorant x-tian with his bible thumping head stuck up his self-righteous butt.  Don't even try and mix Evolution with cosmology. (i.e. The Big Bang)  All you do is further demonstrate your ignorance.

        • Libertarian58

          Typical, you made no effort to answer the question, because you can't.  You also made another false assumption,  I'm an agnostic, not a christian.  The only ignorant one here is you.

        • MkS

          Notice how evolutionist love to name call and be vile in their retorts?  Could it be that's all they have??  Go ahead and have faith in nothing and see how you stand at death's door.

        • useyourbrain

          The “science” of evolution just is not credible. If they could demonstrate something in real life, that would be one thing. But they insist that they know things they do not. And then they claim their opponents are stupid and superstitious. That’s no way to establish a science.

          http://www.dissentfromdarwin.org/

      • Galveston

        You have obviously never seen a human being instantly healed of any serious disorder, never been present when someone was filled with the Holy Spirit. I have.

        Your hatred of God is an effort to justify yourself in whatever you desire to do.
        Self-deception is so easy.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S5S3D4WGP63MU3JPJW3KZQXGWA Jack

           You have never seen anything or anyone "healed" by god because god does not exist.  Show me a single piece of objective evidence for the existence of god.  I have seen x-tian charlatans claim to heal on TV.  What load of B.S.  Even if god does exist, she is obviously insane.

        • Tomdavis

          Most of the blind are, like you Jack, unwilling to see. God has presented miracle after miracle to those willing to see it. Unless you wish to believe that out of chaos comes order independent of a watchful and masterful God, which is illogical, then open your eyes, SMELL the roses, HEAR the birds, SEE the sunset, FEEL or SENSE love of your children or your parents. These are God's gifts to you. How can a living human not accept that on faith alone? Join the human family and enjoy your gifts, Jack.

        • http://www.facebook.com/hiram.holiday Hiram Holiday

          The Resurrection.

        • Suomynona

          I also am agnostic but I wonder why you devote so much time attacking something that, as you say, doesn't exist. Christians, Jews, Hindi, Etc. do not bother me and as a matter of everyday life, evolved or created, I am not affected by them. 

        • Springman97

           Gee Jack. Why were watching church on TV? No good heart-warming evolutionary docudramas to watch on Sunday morning?

      • Springman97

         Jackie Sweetie,
        There is plenty of objective evidence to support Intelligent Design. People of your persuasion just choose to ignore it or openly reject it so you don't have to accept it. I recommend the book "I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist", a cooperative effort by two former atheists: Norman Geisler and Frank Turek. Plenty of evidence for someone with an open mind. Also try "The Case for a Creator" by another former atheist and Chicago Tribune writer, Lee Stroebel.

        • ThisWebsiteSucks

          what evidence

      • http://www.facebook.com/VNVMCLobo Lobo Vnv Mc

         

        What you are saying is that Homo sapiens and all life just
        appeared on earth by some chemical reaction and have evolved to what we are
        today. The alterative is that we evolved from the primates (apes). If this
        theory were true where are the fossil remains of the so called missing link? In
        truth there has never been a missing link found for any species that is purported
        to evolve from another. Thus I find that creationism is the most plausible answer
        and God (Jesus) created mankind. We may have evolved some from Adam and Eve,
        but I don’t believe we came that far from the tree. We are the children of God
        and will always be.

    • Libtard

      All you have to do to debunk Genesis, Noah, and the Tower of Babel, is read it.

    • ThisWebsiteSucks

      wrong

  • GK

    Even in the corvette example, it's still a corvette!    There may be micro-evolution within a species, say dogs, but there is still no such thing as a cat-dog.      The evoutionists make the creationist's arguements for them.

    • Glennd

       Good point about the Corvette. I wonder if any Corvettes accidentally came off the assembly line as a perfect Nash Rambler?

      • Gmspears

        Maybe............guess it evolved on its on, or maybe a Mustang. :-)

  • illinois

    Only a moron would believe in evolution.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hiram.holiday Hiram Holiday

      A reasonable person unacquainted with the evidence may believe in evolution; however, further study would certainly disabuse all but the most corrupt of that notion.

  • The Texas Cooke

    Three simple arguments against the notion [read that
    religion] of Darwinian Evolution:

    (1)   
    The Domestic Dog – After examining the myriad of
    breeds of dog that exist in the world, each can breed with the other to make a
    dog.  That is because all of that
    variability existed in the genetics of wild dogs.  There is NO evolutionary pressure or
    selective mechanism that requires that many solutions [i.e., the genetic
    variability that exists in wild dogs] to the problem of survival.  The whole idea collapses on itself.

    (2)   
    The Domestic Horse and the Domestic Donkey –
    They are similar in form, behavior, nutritional requirements and ecological
    niche, but breed them together and their off-spring are sterile.  So, if evolutionists claim that one species “evolves”
    from another species, who does that animal breed to in order to get more of its
    kind?  The odds claimed for such an
    evolutionary event such as the evolution of a new species is said to be astronomical…what
    are the odds of it happening twice at the same time so that the new species can
    continue?  The whole idea collapses on
    itself.

    (3)   
    In order to believe in Darwinian Evolution, one
    must be able to believe that one can set a wind-up alarm clock on a shelf, and,
    eventually, it will wind itself up by itself! 
    Evolution is counter the solid/long-known physical force of
    entropy.  Given time all complex systems/structures/compounds
    etc. simplify.  The only exception to
    entropy is when living things take simple things and make them more
    complex.  Other than lightening, there is
    no other way to develop complex compounds. 
    The whole idea collapses on itself.

    As religions go, evolution requires not only “belief in
    things unseen”, it requires forgetting everything else one knows.  It is far easier, and more rational, to
    believe that there is something that cannot be known, because it is unknowable…and
    thus ends the role of science in this conversation.

    • FletchGuy

      That is the biggest set of nonsense to ever be published. It ignores reality and fact. this is arguing that selective breeding disproves evolution when they are completely different things lol.Yes some species can be altered through selective captive breeding. You used all selective man created version of animals. Now lets go to the horse. The wild stallionn has many different traits then say a crated by man clydsdale horse although the reasoning and thought of why it was done is similar. Ancient horses before domestication were much larger and varied greatly by the region they became entrenched. Horses that became landlocked in cold areas changed and evolved as the weakest of that herd died off and the gene pool became smaller and more refined. Horse that wear heavier thicker coats or larger hooved for better travel in that terrain bred and became a subspecies of the same species. Horses that were broken off and lived in hot climates thinned out leaving horses that were better suited to that climate and had thinner coats and better heat tolerance.This is evolution in your face and easily seen today. That was funny what you posted as it was the worse attempt to dicredit the fact evolution does in fact take place by using domestic selective breeding as your example lol..Good laugh though

    • Carpenter4Liberty

      4) the human fifth toe, disappearring slowly over the decades/centuries

      5)  Average Anglo human height increasing over just the century alone.  Pick up a .303 Enfield and shoulder it.  Humans (circa 1910) were 3"+ shorter 100 years ago.

      Just two more you can argue over if you wish.

      Probably the most epic hole in the above article was the quote from the scientist crediting Christian faith with the basis of scientific methods  and how it has been employed to prove/disprove various theories. 

      Did that scientist then and this author now believe that the application of critical thought was somehow given us by the Savior, Jesus Christ?  Or did maybe, humans, whether placed here by God or crawled from the primordial ooze, happen to develop and then possess the skills of reason and comparative cause and effect, centuries or millenia before 'The Greatest Story Ever Told"?

      Did B.C. humans not grasp critical thought?  I suggest they certainly did.  Whether you believe it was Adam or Alley Oop, I betcha a thousand bucks, man learned not to build a fire in the rain.  Those that believed a proper prayer to God would make fire burn in a downpour most certainly were very cold and indeed, ate their meat quite raw.

      To suggest or insist that only Christianity can take credit for the modern scientific method is nothing short of hogwash.  How would you explain the Chinese inventing gunpowder, isolated from Western contact and exposure to Christianity?  Or indigent peoples discovering the spear point or longbow?  The propagation of corn/maize from a common grass, half way across the globe?

      For the record, I do believe in God.  I just can't believe people are quite this gullible.

      Please do learn to think for yourselves.  Accepting the opinions of others as fact is how we got in this mess to begin with.  Attacking a theory one doesn't grasp with an exponentially more bizarre theory is not science or faith.  It exposes the retardation of today's societal development.

      • Carpenter4Liberty

        Ooops, I left out the Cape Buffalo, descended from domesticated cattle, brought by the Anglos to Africa.

      • Gmspears

        You claim to beieve in God. God said He created everything, go read your Bible.

        4) the human fifth toe, disappearring slowly over the decades/centuries ??????? What makes you believe this?  The foot was designed the way it is for a purpose, and is not changing.5) Average Anglo human height increasing over just the century alone.  Humans (circa 1910) were 3"+ shorter 100 years ago. ???????People have been different heights depending on where they live and who their ancestors are.Put your faith where it belongs - in God, not science

        • Carpenter4Liberty

          As the Brits are at about the same parallel(latitude) as the US, my example is pertinent.  You disregard empirical data.  And again, fossil record, with respect to our pinky toe .  I said I believe in God, not necessarily Genesis as written in your Bible.  I do not keep one around to pray from so much as to refer to its many contradictions of itself. 

          My main point was and is, that it is pure folly to claim that Christianity alone provides the sole basis for scientific method.  I will toss out a couple more examples and let you mull it over awhile:

          Science does include the study of mathematics.  The pyramids were built long before Christ.  Geometry and trigonometry, along with much physics went into those shovel-ready projects. 

          Surely the Chinese had not heard of Christ yet when they cranked out the first rice paper either.

          And there were some folks over here, 10,00 years ago, whp built some incredible monoliths at unbelievable altitudes in the Andes.  Pretty sure that was pre-Jesus.

          All across the globe, people mastered the art of boating and boat and sail making.  The first sea voyages took place again, pre-Jesus.

          I just grow so weary of folks making assinine claims such as the author and his credited sources.  It's beneath our intelligence.  Correction.  It's beneath my intelligence.

          And it is so small-minded to assume one who believes in God believes in the same owner's manual of religion that you do.  You likely read the King James Version, whilst millions of Catholics read the St. Joeseph(?) version.  Heck, Christians don't even agree upon which 'Truth" is the real truth.

          I didn't come here to poke holes in your Bible.  If it makes you feel good to believe all good things about civilization began with the Savior, who am I to stop you.  Ignorance is indeed bliss?

      • Hornett

        Thanks, Carpenter.  Hope you are also a Conservative so there is hope for sanity in the political philosophy.  I find it totally mind blowing that we have Presidential candidates who are proud to say they don't believe in evolution.  You can still believe in eveolution and the God of your choice.  Very nice discussion without one of these guys labels to tell it all.  As the guy below believes, if it ain't in the Bible, it ain't so.  That's really scary.  And I too believe in God and go to a normal, ordinary Christian Church and do read the Bible. 

    • Hornett

      Well 'nuff said.  A dog and a donkey and poof.  There goes thousands of study and minds and research to prove eveolution.  You guys are awesome.  Suspect you never went to one of those lib colleges where they keep that lib stuff.  Good for you.  Keep on believin.  Just don't cram it down my throat or my kids or our public school.   Home school those youung uns.  And at the same time teach them abstinence only.  It so works with those teens with raging hormones.  Creates more Christian babies.

    • Libtard

      But you still run off to the hospital when in medical need. Taking advantage of the fruits of biology, the knowledge gained from the insights of the theory of evolution. I am not a hypocrite, after my car accident, I stayed true to my faith and called Peter Popoff, who healed me through the power of jesus christ.

      • Mqualls47

         At one time scientists thought leeches could cure
        disease by sucking the bad blood out. At one time the most learned thought the
        earth was flat. So obviously science and scientific theories do not always
        equal the truth. If people didn‘t question science we would still be poking
        holes in people’s skulls to cure mental illness. When science says chocolate is
        bad, then years later it is proven benificial like  eggs and also coffee are. When science
        says Carbon Dioxide is harmful to humans, yet plants require it to produce
        oxygen.
        I'm happy I put my faith into more than ever-changing science.

  • Bobseeks

    Evilution is like the old "missing link" sideshow we used to see in the seedy carnival that came to town once a year. The carneys would stitch together parts from road kill - the feet of a duck, the head of a cat, the body of a rabbit, the wings of a crow and then declare this frankenstein to be the "missing link." A lot of us rubes actually paid to see this thing. Today's pseudo-scientists do the same thing and they still fool the rubes although the rubes this time are atheists; those who claim to worship reason, science, and the power of the human mind, although, by believing the pseudo-scientists who are the shills for darwin, they actually worship unreason, pseudo-science, and the powerless human mind - what I call the three stooges of the atheist trinity. 

  • Info

    Sure they can make goo on a lab.  But than again "evolution" requires that the cells must MUST carry millions of codes of instructions for things like correct rate of multiplication, what type of animal (or plant) it will become etc etc. Let's see if the "evolutionaries" can duplicate that without their own interference. Idiots! 

  • Jim Renwick

    If you read the first several chapters and notes in the Dake Bible you might see that science and Christianity
    align with each other. 

  • Peter

    One day a group of scientists got together and decided that man had come a long way and no longer needed God. So they picked one scientist to go and tell Him that they were done with Him. The scientist walked up to God and said, "God, we've decided that we no longer need you. We're to the point that we can clone people and do many miraculous things, so why don't you just go on and get lost."
    God listened very patiently and kindly to the man and after the scientist was done talking, God said, "Very well, how about this, let's say we have a man making contest." To which the scientist replied, "OK, great!"
    But God added, "Now, we're going to do this just like I did back in the old days with Adam."
    The scientist said, "Sure, no problem" and bent down and grabbed himself a handful of dirt.
    God just looked at him and said, "No, no, no. You go get your own dirt!"

    • Gmspears

      Very Good, Peter.

    • Libtard

      And then Thor laughed at the scientists and banged his hammer to make thunder.

  • FletchGuy

    I wouldn't say your anti science if you do not believe in the facts of evolution but prefer believing in an unproven story of a entitty who lives in the clouds and controls everything, but I would think you a bit foolish to ignore actual proven facts with physical examples. To each their own , but for me hard core fact supercedes belief.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q4PBY7UM6H4DB6UIRPYJH3BBEU Mel N

      You seem confused again.  Ours
      is not the extraordinary claim.

      My claim explains the
      creation of nature and man in a nutshell without abstracts that has been
      accepted for thousands and thousands of years. God created everything in perfection and in perfect
      natural equilibrium and put man in charge!

      Man's perception of God being
      the ONLY QUESTION left up to the imagination.

      Yours is the extraordinary
      claim that bits and pieces of chance assembled DNA goo bonded for no reason at all and that evolved into
      a living, breathing, thinking, inventive and highly social creature capable of
      even questioning his beginning and his creator. This chance occurrence is
      beyond logical belief to rational thinkers.

      With all due respect to your
      most civil response, my grasp of science is a bit more traditional than your
      current and PC brand that seems to omit God and even natural law from all
      equations.

      Pure Science has it’s
      foundations in religion, philosophy as well as astrology, so when that is
      removed, where is the foundation of the art?

      Your present PC science has
      its foundation in sociology and politics. A poor foundation for TRUTH to say
      the least.

  • FletchGuy

    Glennd if you can not find proof of the therory of evolution as fact I am not sure where you looked. It's a very simple thereory and can be proven at home if you want. Evolution is the adaption and change due to climate, gene pools and surroundings. Here is an easy one..Penquins. most people say they are birds that live in cold wether only when in fact there are African Penquins that have adapted and evolved while being of the same species and turned into a sub species with the same genetic markers as other penquins in cold climates. They evolved with a less dense layer of fat and thinner feather coat along with a bit larger size as more food is avaliable. This is showing the same species has evolved and adapted. Pretty basic factual stuff taught in 5th grade up.

    • Glennd

      FletchGuy,

      I'm sure they teach that in the 5th grade. That is the only way they can get folks to believe in the whole idea.

      That an animal can adapt to live in less or more extreme climate is not any objective proof that different species can come to exist by "survival of the fittest." If that were true, mastodons and mammoths would not be extinct, since they were better developed/equipped to survive than elephants. My dog loses hair in the summer and gains hair in the winter. That is no objective proof of the religion of evolution, your penguins notwithstanding. If one of the penguin eggs hatches to yield a lizard of some sort, let me know.

      Your idea that your belief is science(or fact), while others are funny stuff is in itself, funny. This whole idea is so far removed from "science," is itself laughable. You still haven't given any "facts" of evolution. Where did life come from? Where did free will come from? Or do you deny free will?

      Come to think of it, where did anything/everything come from? To each his own, but for me, hard core facts supersedes belief in accidents.

      • FletchGuy

        Again you seem to be using arguments on topics that are not involved in your posting. Now your arguing how life on this planet began and not the point of evolution actually existing. You have to pick one and then give an argument for or against as your saying one thing then going off on an entirely different topic. The topic is is evolution real and proven. The answer is yes.... Now your trying to argue creation of life for some reason when that is not the topic.. I gave facts supporting how evolution is fact and is easily proven not how the first life became first life as there are no facts or proof how that began...You have yet to disprove proven evolution. You did try to somehow say that documented evolution was not fact..I think you should look up the world evolution and then creation of life as you seemed very confused on the meaning of these english words as they are very different. I do feel bad that you do not believe in science as that means you do not take medicine or allow your kids if you have them to get preventative care since as you say science is just funny funny stuff. Guess you drive a god cloud mobile since a car is built off scientific engineering. Pretty funny huh.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q4PBY7UM6H4DB6UIRPYJH3BBEU Mel N

      Problems, errors, and outright lies in the pseudo science of evolution.

      http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html

  • Fordmaniac

    Atheists National Holiday coming right up ... FIRST of next month (April).

    • Gmspears

      You are soooo correct, April 1st. We all know what day that is.
       

  • Ptsjls

    If the 1953 model had evolved by itself into the modern day Corvette while locked in a garage then the author would have a point. However the fact that the early and late Corvettes had a creator seems to make his argument rather silly.

    • Gmspears

      It actually proves point that there HAS TO BE A CREATOR for any thing to be in existance.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ziztur Christina Stephens

    "
    Atheists extend their paradigm by claiming that if you are not an atheist and do not believe in evolution then you are anti-science." - citation needed. Are you arguing against something someone actually said here? I can't tell.

  • Gman4691

    The Corvette analogy is laughable...the vehicle was designed, built, and subesequently modified by an intelligent being, namely an engineer.  The very first Corvette didn't simply self-assemble from nothing.  Think about it.

  • Honeyt

    OMG. Only atheists believe in evolution or so I would conclude from this erudite treatise.  So that must mean that 98% of the 'scientists' in the world are all atheists despite the fact that they claim they are 'Christians'.  Most likely they are all commies since they graduate from those lib colleges.  You want to believe in Creationism, knock your socks off but keep it away from public schools.  Home school your kiddies or have them go to a church school that teaches this.  Textbooks teach evolution; it's an accepted scientific philosophy, belief and the TRUTH.  You can be any kind of Christian you like.  Just keep your faith to your faith.  I don't agree with you and don't like to be lumped with atheists.  Perfectly nice people.  I just don't think they are correct about god.  They can assemble as they want, when they want, etc.  It's America

    • conserve1

       Sorry it is a theory. In other words it has never been proven as fact. Science can not prove it. So it is far from the truth.

  • Grumpa37

    Evolution *by chance* may occur every day.  It may benefit single-celled life forms a lot, and viruses much more.  It's just incidental that most of the benefits to these small "creatures" are either neutral or detrimental to larger, more complex life forms, especially including us.  Think about evolving diseases.

    *Change* by chance also, without question, occurs in complex organisms (like us).  Unfortunately, changes in us (1) are almost all anomalies which do not carry on into future generations, and (2) are beneficial in approximately zero percent of all observed cases (which should make us grateful that they don't go into future generations).  Many of our health problems, particularly birth defects and auto-immune dysfunction or malfunction, link directly to genes getting knocked about or knocked out early in our development.

    Evolution happens.  The "bugs" benefit, and appear to be winning their "war" with us.  What some of us call "higher" life forms don't benefit and, as far as I can see, ain't gettin' no higher.  I need God to make any sense of this world.

  • guest

    To Brad Nova, Whether dinosaurs were on the earth at the same time as humans is irrelevant to whether life started anywhere in this universe without an intelligent designer to make it live!

    Think about this: if the cell wall of a single cell creature is ruptured, that creature dies. It has all the apparatus for life. It doesn't need to "evolve" anything. Why does it not continue to live? Why can't you restore life to someone who is dead? If life comes from non-life, as you believe, it should happen all the time.

    Scientists have been trying to produce life from non-life in labs since the 1800's. FAIL!

  • Kmd4excel

    Berra's corvette analogy actually applies to the intelligent design (or creationism, as you might prefer) model. The problem with Berra's analogy is  not just that it is irrrational, but that the corvette didn't appear out of nowhere; someone thought of it, designed it, and built it. Or a group of somebodies.  In essence Berra just gave the roadmap to intelligent design. An intelligent person conceived of the 'vette, built it. God, the Creator, conceived of the universe and built it. The vette had to evolve as time went by in order to keep it's market share. God built in evolution -- organisms evolving to adapt to their environment -- to HIs design so that as things change, the organisms could survive.

    The problem with the egghead elites like Berra is not that they are necessarily irrational; they unwittingly prove the other side's argument with poorly thought out analogies.

  • jaydee1958

    Atheists point of view:

    #1 In the beginning there was nothing. Then BANG! Nothing blew up and created everything!
    From nothing, came Laws and order. (Laws: physics, natural, logic etc.).

    Or

    #2 The universe always existed. NO "Science" proved it had beginning as galaxies move apart.
    Back to statement #1.

    Or

    #3 According to Hawkins. Gravity fields created the Universe. What created gravity in the first place?  
    Back to #1.

    Or

    #4 Lots of Time and lots of chances:  10 x 10 to the 1,000,000,000,000,000 power chances + billions upon billion of years "created" all that is seen. Mathamatically impossible. Even if there were the most remote chance of being true, then why hasn't anyting suddenly appeared? Time and chance still marches on. Darn Back to #1.

    Or

    #5 They must be intellictually honest with themselves (and they're not) how does one go from non-life to life?
    There were no scientists around to witness creation, it cannot be measured or recreated in a lab. So you have
    "Theory, Conjecture, Extrapulation you know down right good home made science  a/k/a guess work.

    Or

    They really hate this one:

    In the beginning, GOD created the heavens and the earth Genisis 1:1.

    Only a fool in his heart says there is no GOD. Guess the Atheists are going to be celebrating their
    "holiday" (holy day) that being 4/1/2012. Their day: "APRIL FOOLS DAY!!!!"

    • Mikebark

      Then what created god???

      • Jackdgreer

        God lived outside time, so he always was ,is and will be.... OK.

  • jaydee1958

    To believe in evolution is like believing that a tornado can go though a junk yard and leave behind a fulling functional 747.

  • jaydee1958

    Darn that is a fully functional 747.

  • jaydee1958

    How does a trumpet flower "know" that it is going to need a long hooked billed humming bird to pollenate it?

    Why doesn't a garaffe pass out when lifting his/her head up from taking a drink? All that blood leaving the head and all, going down that long neck.

    What are the odds of 100,000's of chromosones and ammino acids attached to each other precisely where they are needed in the formation needed to make you?

    Yet, you are fear fully and wonderfully made!!
    Before you were born, I knew you. GOD.

  • John Hardman

    Atheists for the most part  have real problems with Reality, Humility, and Perspecacity. I suppose I too might be an Atheist if I fancied myself an intellectual marvel of my own making; so far superior to the millionsof terminally stupid humans that are despoiling the Earth for those who really deserve and appreciate it. Who needs a God when He/She would be an inhibiting factor in the freedom to fulfill the athists full potential and self expression.
    As for perspecacity; if the gaze of viewer is permently afixed on the image seen in their mirror and they become transfixed the pure joy that fills that space reserved for souls; then forever an atheist they will remain all of their days.

  • rchguns

    Question:
    If atheists do not believe in God then why did they waste so much time, money, and effort to try to proof it. They obviously show that they are far more concerned about God than the average Christian. The average Christian believes in God and doesn't make waves it says belief. But not an atheist he has to go out of his way to endeavor to convince everybody else at the fact that he doesn't believe in God is right.

    By the effort that the atheist community puts in to their death and destruction of God that is so signifies that they must believe God exists so where the argument

  • Jack Parker

    This author is an insane,
    ignorant, stupid, criminally naive liar with his bible thumping head stuck up his self-righteous butt.  He hasn't a clue what the tenets of evolution are.  He misrepresents the facts of evolution and distort christianity's dogma.  Two facts:  1.  There are other realitions besides christianity (of which there area about a dozen sects).  2.  There is absolutely no objective evidence that god (or any other spirit) from any religion exists.  Evolution is a fact, not a theory.  Get used to it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2M2AHNLBMJWETPS4ZAU4UBOQWQ Jeff W

    I love it when people say evolution is proved by scientific evidence. Out of thousands of fossils that have been dug up over the years there is not one so-called missing link to prove that one form of life can evolve into another. Sure, they claim to have the missing link, but what they don't tell you is that they "reconstructed" an entire skeleton from a couple of toe bones and one tooth (which may have come from a pig.) The lack of any transitional fossils is actually scientific evidence that evolution never happened at all.

    It also amazes me when I see "scientists" contorting their brains to explain why fossils of sea life are found at every elevation on the planet. They say it's "proof" that the mountains were forced up from the seas by tectonic plate movement "billions of years" ago. Possibly it never occurred to their overworked brains that it might just be proof that the Bible is correct in its assertion that God once flooded the whole earth.

    They mock people of faith who believe in a God who is the creator of everything, but it actually takes a much greater "leap of faith" or suspension of logic, if you will, to believe that everything that exists just magically appeared out of nothing. I'm sorry, but creationism is much more scientifically and logically sound than evolution theory.

  • ABUTOM

    WHEN YOU GET TO THE TOP IT IS ALL THE SAME PEOPLE.
     
    Watching the elite top echelon of the re puppy party all cluster around Money bags Romney I am reminded  of the old cliche.  Money goes to money. Those that don't have it sit at the feet of coin dispensers.
    That is what I see when they announce who endorsed Romney. If you asked each one of the good ol boys why not Santorum?  And they answered truthfully. They would say because he has no money. Donald Trump is an obvious example. Do you really believe that the Donald believes Romney is the best man for the job?
    No they are all picking the obvious winner. Bobby Jindal as far as I know did the right thing. He stayed out of endorsing anyone in the Louisiana race. The people picked Santorum.
     
    On the other side of the coin you have the demo commo elitists. Led by Bill Maher (I DON'T BELIEVE THE DONATION WAS HIS MILLION BUCKS) who took a nasty dump on the state of Mississippi mocking a great people for being poor. Yet never mentioning that his elite handler Obama has vowed to put the entire South out of work. Especially the Gulf Coast. Obama who has had personal experience with white prejudice all the way to the White house. Having listened to the words of Old man river with his own ears.
     
    So on the one hand you have the re puppy elites, the Bush's, the Doles, the Trumps and Fox News.
    on the other hand Obama has, Steve Jobs for the Chinese minimum wage, but no one is going after big Ipod or big GE or big Pornowood. Did I mention the entire news media in printed form and on the airwaves. CNN, NBC, all the times papers and the Mexican killing gun running justice department.
     
    Through the BS maze we are supposed to believe that my vote counts. If my vote counted Rick Santorum would not be blacklisted by the media on both sides. Rick Santorum would not be mocked by pimp comedians. His wife would not be labeled a crazy by Don Imus. His down syndrome child would not be a Bill Maher joke. He would not be mocked as his Catholic religion is by Aids to Chuck Schumer on Fox.
     
    So why is this inconsequential loser fro Pennsylvania a millstone around Romney's neck?  Moneybags got rid of Bachmann and left her a million dollars in the red. The demo commos got rid of Cain using a status seeker who lives in the same building as David Axelrod but they never met for tennis. Mr. seller I'll take two Brooklyn bridges. The guy that can order in Chinese ran out of yen. Rick Perry who was the butt of another nasty Bill Maher joke that went like this. If Rick Perry was black Sarah Palin would have f'd him. If I was Todd Palin I would convince Israeli intelligence that Bill Maher is an Iranian nuclear scientist. Oh the beating he would get in my Irish neighborhood for what that rat did. After the soccer team got finished, then the hurling team, then the choir. While the pipers played nearer my God to thee.
     
    So what have we now says the fine old woman?  We have a nation on the way to the crapper. We have two parties that have no intentions of cutting the budget that makes us working slaves to the Chinese,  the congress, OPEC, and a president who hates the country that gave him everything. Which goes to prove once again If you did not earn it you don't appreciate it. Forty days before 911 forty eight senators voted to burn the Flag including Match McConeel, 40 were demo commos and 8 were re puppies. This is what you have running the circus. Speaking of circuses Romney saved the Olympics with Government grant money.
    If it is from Massachusetts it will hurt you. Paul Revere moved his grave to Louisiana.
     
    IF YOU WANT YOUR VOTE TO COUNT.  IT HAS TO BE SANTORUM. HE IS THE ONLY ONE LEFT THAT REPRESENTS YOU. ALL THE REST ARE REPRESENTING THEMSELVES. WHEN THEY ARE IN POWER THE OFFICE DOOR CLOSES FOR FOUR MORE YEARS. THIS IS THE ONLY CHANCE YOU GET TO BE HEARD.
     
    So lets look at the line up.The demo commos team.
    Hollywood and their values
    unions and their goals
    Peta communists
    Green crap communists
    the communist environmentalists
    the Black community 92%
    The Hispanic community minus the Catholics and many stand in line immigrants. 51%
    the gay community 95%
    the welfare community 95%
    the legalize drug community 99%
    The prison population 95%
    the communist party 100%
    occupy wall street (see the communist party)
    Runaway Catholics 25%
    Al Queda vote 90%
    THE ALGAE PEOPLE 98%
    THE PBA CROWD 100%
    THE MILITARY 5%
    THE KGB 100 %
    CAIR 100%
    ATHEISTS (SEE THE COMMUNIST PARTY)
     
     
    ON THE SANTORUM SIDE.
    CATHOLICS 60%
    EVANGELISTS AND BAPTISTS 90%
    ALL OTHER RELIGIONS EXCEPT AL QUEDA 85%
    MOTHERS WITH CHILDREN 85%
    COAL MINERS UNION 98%
    OIL RIGGERS AND RELATIVES 98%
    THE MILITARY INCLUDING THE ABSENTEE BALLOTS THE DEMO COMMOS CAN'T GET THEIR HANDS ON 95%
    THOSE WHO SWITCH FROM ROMNEY TILL CONVENTION TIME 74%
    TRUCKERS IN SPITE OF BEING THREATENED BY  JIMMY HOFFA JR. 80%
    FARMERS 95%
    FISHERMAN 95%
    HUNTERS 99%
    ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN SCREWED BY THE EPA 100%
    ANYONE THAT HAS BEEN SCREWED BYOSHA 100%
    ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN KILLED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MINUS 2 THAT WE KNOW OF.
    AND 50,000 DEAD MEXICANS KILLED BY AMERICAN DRUG ORDERS.
    BOY SCOUTS WHO REACH 18 YEARS OF AGE 95%
    GIRL SCOUTS NOT BRAINWASHED BY THE COMMUNIST PARTY 50%
    STUDENTS WHO WILL FAIL IF THEY DON'T VOTE FOR OBAMA 30%
    PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN HOODS CONTROLLED BY THE NEW BLACK PANTHERS 10%
    WORKING TAX SLAVES 98%
    PARENTS WITH 3 JOBS 100%
    PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE THE STATUS QUO 100%
    TEA PARTY 90%
    REPUBLICAN ELITES 10%
    FOX NEWS EMPLOYEES 10%
     
    THE REPUPPY SIDE.
    THE FINEST VOTERS MONEY CAN BUY.
     THE GIVE US THE SOS CROWD.
    THE DON'T ROCK THE VOTE CROWD.
    FOX NEWS. OREILLY MADE US DO IT.
    THEY CAN'T SEE ME I'M INVISIBLE CROWD. REMEMBER SCHOOL WHEN THE TEACHER CALLED ON YOU?
    I WAS ON BILL MAHER BUT NO ONE SAW ME CROWD.
    I WAS ON DANCING WITH TOM DELAY.
    I INTRODUCED GEORGE BUSH TO BILL CLINTON THE TOPIC WAS LIBRARIES.
    IF THAT IS A ROCK I'M CRAWLING UNDER IT UNTIL THE ELECTION IS OVER CROWD.
    I'M AGAINST BIRTH CONTROL PILL PAYMENTS BUT VIAGRA SHOULD BE COVERED.
    TWO LOG CABIN REPUBLICANS IN SEPARATE ROOMS.
     
    WHO WANTS ROMNEY THE MOST? OBAMA !  WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
    OBAMA REFUSED TO DEBATE GINGRICH WITHOUT A VENTROLIQUIST.
     
    IT HAS TO BE SANTORUM. I HOPE NEWT THROWS IN WITH RICK BUT I FEAR THE ROMNEY OFFER OF I CAN HELP YOU WITH YOUR PERSONAL DEFECIT WILL OVERWHELM HIM. WHICH WILL BE SAD.
     
    SANTORUM COMES WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED. HIS WIFE IS A NURSE AND A LAWYER PLUS THE MOTHER OF SEVEN KIDS. THAT IS A BIG WHITEHOUSE TO FILL.
     
    THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUSH AND OBAMA IS BUSH LISTENED TO HIS GENERALS. IN EIGHT YEARS HE LOST 461 AMERICANS IN AFGHANISTAN. OBAMA LISTENS TO HIS POLITICAL COMMISARS AND HAS ALREADY LOST 2,000 AMERICANS PLUS SEAL TEAM SIX 22 MEN. BIGGEST SEAL TEAM LOSS SINCE WWII.
     
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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Burt-Fisher/100001081550703 Burt Fisher

    I have not been blessed with the gift of faith, and as such do not consider myself a Christian or a worshipper of any God.  However, I do believe in logic and reason, and the 'Corvette' example shown above is a good example of a bad example.  Whoever this person being quoted might be, is either playing a joke, or is seriously deficient in the definition of words.    The reason that the 'three R's' are taught in engineering school is simply so that the newly minted  engineer will be able to elucidate and educate others about what he designs or invents.  If someone does not know the difference between certain words, such as "evolution" and "mechanical design revisions through engineering change order" then that person is not an engineer - he is a "hack".  And he becomes one of the many new 'internet experts' out there: believed simply because they have a soapbox to stand on, and not because they have anything useful to say.

    And about my beliefs: I say that I do not worship a God, but I do not say that one does not exist.  Does gravity exist?  Do quantum mechanics exist?  And did they still exist before they were discovered and rigorously documented by man?  And does gravity exist on the planet Jupiter?  I have seen, felt, touched gravity on Jupiter as many times as I have seen, felt, touched God.  Some things cannot be proven, and considering that we all have a limited time as mortal humans, I've decided to spend those years working to learn something that CAN be known, and not by arguing with morons (no offense intended to Mr. Evolution up there).

  • poacher

    if you believe the theory then which race is superior and when should they exterminate the others?

  • Obiewon328

    Here is a good question to ask the atheist.  I would like to know that if there was no God that created the universe, how did the planets know how to orbit without crashing into each other?  And how would this planet earth know how it had the right atmosphere for life to take place?  Why are there still apes on the planet if man was supposed to evolved from them?  Don't you think if we came from apes that there would be none left here from evolution?

    • Samtman

      Good Question, Humans evolved from a common apelike anscestor as did the apes and the monkeys.  The apes took a separate road to evelove than did humans.  We have found fossilzed skelital remains of human like beings  that showes how humans evolved over the last 5 million years up to the present stage wich is estimated to have happend some 200,000 years ago.  New evidence is found in Africa almost every year.  You will need to go on Google to get a more in depth history than I can give you here. As far as to how the universe works, in short the billions of planets don't collide most of the time because of gravitational pull and cetrifical force.  Again you need to go on Google and get a more in depth explantion of  all of  your questions than  I can give  you  here.But I'm glad you asked. I also grew up reading the Bible and I still find it facsinating. The Bible does give us a moral compass as to how we can survive better by treating each other fairly , respectfull and to cooporate in our daily lives.

    • Mqualls47

      Great websites on refuting much of the atheistic and evolutionary myths that are being propagated out there today.
      Wealth of info on both sites.
      http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/258-our-universe-a-great-machine

      http://www.godandscience.org/

  • Buckshotjoe1

    Descent with modification is known as ADAPTATION.

  • damifinoone

    If the Theory of Evolution is absolute, please tell me where to find the not quite human but smarter than an ape.  

    • http://www.atheismandthecity.com/ The Thinker

      Look in the mirror.

  • Samtman

    Evolultion has material visible evidence as to how the world evolved in  the last 14-15 billion years, all other stories  of magic and instant creation.  This week we are going to the zoo to visit our cousins to say hello to our cousins the Chimpanzees who have over 98% of the same DNA as us humans also part of the  Great Ape  Species.  For that matter even the lowly mouse has 95% of the same DNA as humans. Thts why many medical experiments are tried on white mice first before they are given to humans.  The world is just one big related family that evolved from the same cell in some 4-5 billion years.

  • Xanadu4024

    Berra proves it take Intelligent Design to make complicated things,,, and the beginning Corvette was simple and slow and a beginning,, and todays Corvette is a great deal more evolved ,,,,,by Intelligent Design!

  • PappaBill

    Jack Parker and Dirigo:  Ever check out the fossil record?  It doesn't support evolution either.

  • Libtard

    Science and scientific theories never equal the truth. Science cannot prove what is true, only what is false. Which it has done to the truths of the world being flat, having four corners and sitting at the center of the universe, unmoved, as the sun and stars move through the sky. That is why one should always regard the truth written by men with skeptisism. I bet people 500 years from now will look upon us with the same amusement as your examples amuse us.

  • Tout

    Nothing can come from 'nothing'. So how could something start from nothing, for that is what unbelievers believe. But: 1) if there is something without a beginning (eternal being), THAT could create the rest. 2) we realize, THAT (eternal being) must have been able to reason, to be able to bring forth such complex creation. That eternal power that could reason, we call 'GOD'. That power, 'God' , created everything. And to 'people' He gave the ability to reason, and continuous life. People will end up in Heaven or hell, for eternity. We know this for we are given the ability to think. This ability to think tells us what happened. CREATION !

  • BarrackHussein

    I can believe in the big bang theory...
    God spoke and 'bang,' it happened...  see we are not as far off as one would think.  Most of the amusement in listening to the "scientists" that place themselves as above God and ignore obvious intellegent design.  They ought to get out (side) more!!!

  • Chief

    "We need to act on theory alone, which is to say on prediction alone. It follows that the reputation of scientific prediction needs to be enhanced. But that can happen, paradoxically, only if scientists' disavow the certainty and precision that they normally insist on. Above all we [scofers] need to learn to act decisively to forestall predicted perils, even while knowing that they may never materialize.[global warming-ozone depletion-population bomb] We must take action, in a manner of speaking, to preserve our ignorance."[Platos allegory of the cave]
    Jonathan Schell-discover magazine 1987

    "We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."[ I am done with this witness your honor...]
    Dr. Stephen Schneider-claim to fame-aerosol spray cans were damaging the atmosphere, ozone layer. Later to be exposed as junk scare science.

    Haeckels' natural history of creation contained enormous speculation about the tree of life that went beyond Darwins origin. Even so, Huxley approved, saying that any effort to advance Darwins'[plagerized from his grandfather & Russell Wallace] theory, even in the wrong direction, was preferable to no movement at all.

    In professor Haeckels' speculations on phylogeny, or the genealogy of animal forms, there is much that is profoundly interesting and his suggestions are always supported by sound knowledged and great ingenuity. Whether one agrees or disagrees with him, one feels that he has forced the mind into lines of thought in which it is more profitable to go wrong than to stand still.[Did you get that. Politicize this and get the courts to protect it (fund it with tax dollars) and the truth depends on what is is]You have movement in the wrong direction(away from God) and the opiate of the evolutionists-public funding. The high priests peddling historical science while constantly refering to the successes of application (testable-repeatable) science

    J Huxley-Darwins bulldog-Sociological considerations abound, least Karl Marx: Remember these societies were well heeled capitalistic Aristocratic, no time card to punch this am. Karl Marx wanted to dedicate Das Kapital to Darwin. Marx was penniless with 8 children. Without his benefactor Engles, a capitalist factory owner no less, Marx would have starved or had to go to work. Darwin declined for self societal preservation. Ideas have consequences. Endorsments are not theory, putting your skin in the game publically changes everything $. 

    Sir Charles Lyell-Alfred Russell Wallace-Herbert Spencer-Robert Chambers-Joseph Hooker-Thomas Huxley-Darwins Grandfather Erasmus Darwin-Nimrod. It is significant that the early leaders on evolutionary thought were also involved in revolutionary political movements. The Frence Revolution weighs in and its' derranged aftermath with the new worship of the "Lady of Reason". Reminisent of the golden calf inncident some time befere. Bable. Communism was lurking in the same society that evolution was(England) One needed the other as a scientific prerequisit. All politics is science anyway so here we went protecting our ignorance. Platos allegory of the cave comes to mind-now watch

    Plato likened our perception of life to persons viewing shadows on a wall while unaware of the far grander reality that produces those two dimensional images. People chained in a cave.
    This is what sparked plato in the direction he went to theorize this shadow situation

    Three hundred years earlier, the prophet Isiah had laid the base for Plato. Here it is...

    Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened and the ears of the deaf unstopped...The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light; they that dwell in the land of images, upon them the light has shone.
    Isiah 35:5,9:1 
    I am...

  • ThisWebsiteSucks

    i swear, i can't tell if this site is a poe or just retarded.

  • B_R_Deadite99

    "They seem to forget that some of the world’s greatest scientists were
    Christians – from Isaac Newton and Robert Boyle to Johann Kepler to
    Michael Faraday and a whole lot more in between."

    First off, to the guy who wrote this piece of garbage and every idiot in the comment section who agrees with him, lots of scientists are in fact, Christians. Evolution is a fact. The entire fossil record, which not a single creationist witch-doctor has ever addressed in full, shows definite changes. If the fossil record did not support evolution, then we would not have the Geologic Time Scale. Just because you are a Christian does not man you must choose between fact and ancient fiction. Sir Isaac Newton died hundreds of years before the theory of evolution was even put forth--hardly a "Creationist" by any means.

    "Dr. Loren Eiseley (1907-1977), a Professor of anthropology, a science
    history writer and evolutionist, concluded that the birth of modern
    science was mainly due to the creationist convictions of its founders."

    Creationism didn't even exist until the 19th century. Before that, people assumed that God or Gods created all life because there was no other explanation, and no evidence either way. Science is directly based upon principles of skepticism pioneered by the Greeks and preserved by the Romans and later the Arabs, while Christians were still burning books and pagans in their squalid, filthy countries.

    "These facts are well known to anyone who has the inclination to learn
    the truth, but there are few hard-core atheists who take the trouble to
    research the history of the relationship between the Christian religion
    and the origin and development of modern science."

    None of the nonsense you've spouted can be considered "fact" by any stretch of the word. If the Christian Zombie Cult is responsible for the birth of science, why did they undergo a thousand-year Dark Age, before finally making some progress in the 14th and 15th centuries? Why were the Arabs translating Greek philosophy and advancing mathematics, medicine, and trading with India and China as early as the 1100s , while at the same time Europe was ignorant, illiterate, and superstitious with only a tiny fraction of people who could even read?

    "Then there are the arguments used by high profile atheists to support
    their claim that anyone who does not believe evolution has taken place
    from nothing to full blown human is a fool and an intellectual dolt."

    From what I've seen of your site so far, they were right.

    As for what Tim Berra said, he wasn't making an argument, he was comparing evolution in the natural world with the constant refinement of automobiles. If you can't even grasp what an analogy is, I'd suggest you go back to school and this time, try to learn something.

  • http://www.atheismandthecity.com/ The Thinker

    Let's not forget that hundreds of years ago in Newton's day and in Faraday's time, you had to profess religious faith or else you could be punished. Once religious institutions lost that power, you see a wave of secular/non-religious scientists coming out like Einstein and since his time, the majority of scientists are atheist/agnostic.