Ontario Government Declares War Against Catholic Church and Schools

Glen Murray, the Minister of Training, Colleges and Universities in the Ontario, Canada government has told Catholic schools that they are no longer allowed to teach biblical principles against homosexuality.  Additionally, he told them that they must allow gay clubs to organize at all Catholic schools.

Speaking publicly on the his anti-bullying bill, Murray said,

“I have to say to the bishops: ‘You’re not allowed to do that anymore.’  I’m not allowed to say to the Catholics—nor should I—or to other Christians or Muslims or Jews, that because of your faith you’re intrinsically disordered.”

“I would never say to you that anything that goes on in your family with the person you love—can you imagine me describing a husband-and-wife relationship as inherently depraved?”

“… There’s no one here that’s suggesting that we shouldn’t teach a Catholic perspective in our schools.”

“It is about celebrating diversity. It isn’t about taking Catholic teaching out of Catholic schools.  It’s about putting life-affirming, positive images and stories around gay and lesbian children, Muslim children, kids and women of all shapes.”

Would it surprise you to learn that Glen Murray is a homosexual and has long fought for gay rights in Ontario and all of Canada.  He is using his position as a cabinet minister to push his personal homosexual philosophy onto the people of Quebec.  Murray has no respect for anyone else’s religious beliefs if they are different from his and now he is trying to force all Catholic schools to act in direct violation of their religious views.

The crux of Murray’s Accepting Schools Act or SB 13 is more about promoting homosexual rights rather than the anti-bullying measures he claims.  The bill is also supposed to stop any anti-hate language which Murray defines as any speech that condemns his perverse gay lifestyle.  Incorporated into the anti-measure of Bill 13 is a provision that requires, yes, REQUIRES all publicly funded schools including Catholic schools to form clubs for gays and straights in the hope that it would help make homosexuality better accepted among straight students.

Suresh Dominic of Campaign Life Catholics reacted to Murray’s announcement by saying that his actions amount to a declaration of war against the Catholic Church and all they believe in.  He also added,

“We’ve been saying all along that McGuinty wants to dictate what the Church can teach in its schools and here it is straight from the government’s mouth.”

Dominic and other Catholic leaders in Ontario are mounting a defensive move and calling for all Catholics and Protestants to fight against Murray and his gay rights bill.  Their calls have been heard as over 2,000 people gathered at Queen’s Park last Thursday in a unified effort to defeat passage of Bill 13.

Even though this is all taking place on the other side of our northern border, similar actions are not out of the question from our own national government, especially when you consider the contraception mandate which is still being fought against by Christian schools and organizations across the nation.


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  • Bobseeks

    In a way, this is the chickens coming home to roost because the roman church has always worked with lieberals in instituting lieberal programs in the mistaken idea that Jesus advocated enabling the poor to remain poor through their acceptance of government handouts rather than escaping poverty through work. One must realize that one cannot support any aspect of lieberalism without supporting the entire vile agenda of the lieberals. Maybe now the roman church will see its mistake and repent of the evil it has helped to take root and grow into the cancer it is today.

    • Arminius

       Comrade Bobseeks, that's telling the Romans.  But, Comrade, just between you and me, giving specific examples helps to make your point.  Do you know what you're talking about?  I know you do, Comrade.  Please help me with some examples in the future. 

  • Mary

    The church's are part of the new world order. When I was a young girl in church and Sunday school the preacher's would tell us "homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God."

    Now since many states have enacted gay marriage laws, some Protestant denominations have sunk to a new low by marrying them. Our country has been taken over by marxist degenerates who would stop at nothing to take this country apart brick by brick. We have to take it back!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

      I agree.   I have seen Lutheran Churches no longer become Christian because of allowing this mental illness that is condemned directly by GOD.   If you find a homosexual in you midst get rid of them they will divide you and pervert you .   Look at the Anglicans they fly the homosexual rainbow flag at their churches saying to GOD you are no longer welcome.

      • ThomNJ

        The Missouri Synod of Lutheran Churches doesn't abide by this, but certainly some of the LCA and ELCA ministers have been corrupted.

      • DDT

        THEY WILL PAY FOR THAT

  • Todd

    Yet another liberal "Trojan horse" case; claiming platitudes of equality, fairness, acceptance, anti-bullying, diversity, etc.  Which is a lie, as their goal is always, always, always: Recruitment, Indoctrination, Promotion, Submission, Preferential Treatment, Forced Requirements, Forced "Club" formation.  And aren't their hypocritical tactics..."bullying"?

  • Reagan64

    Call it cancer or call it homosexual, they can be cured with sincer prayer to God for healing and grace.

  • diana

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS IDIOT THE PEOPLE OVER THERE BETTER STAND UP FOR CATHOLICS AND THERE BELIEFS THIERS WILL BE NEXT, HOPEFULY THEY NO THIS IS     WRONG   .......

  • TedZ

    Well now the Catholics have reaped the seeds that they themselves have sown by unabashedly supporting the Liberal party for all these years.  Good God; now we have to have a gay club in the schools. Thank God that my kids have completed their public education and are now raising their own children. I am advising them to send their kids to private schools!

  • hambone

    It's spreading. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZKENLWH22H3PHEPSHNVHJQEVM citizen X

      another point about churches is how many have actively promoted and even make money from abortion? The Presbyterian Hospitals, owned by that church, are one of the largest providers of abortion here in the states, only outdone by Planned Parenthood mills. Yet most Presbyterians do not even know their church is doing that.
      This is like a cancer; it has been spreading for years, and now that it has surfaced, we can see how bad it is. The only answer for churches and church owned schools to maintain their faith and doctrines, is to function independantly of government money, and that is probably true in Canada as well.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZKENLWH22H3PHEPSHNVHJQEVM citizen X

      another point about churches is how many have actively promoted and even make money from abortion? The Presbyterian Hospitals, owned by that church, are one of the largest providers of abortion here in the states, only outdone by Planned Parenthood mills. Yet most Presbyterians do not even know their church is doing that.
      This is like a cancer; it has been spreading for years, and now that it has surfaced, we can see how bad it is. The only answer for churches and church owned schools to maintain their faith and doctrines, is to function independantly of government money, and that is probably true in Canada as well.

  • Vazir Mukhtar

    "
    Incorporated into the anti-measure of Bill 13 is a provision that requires, yes, REQUIRES all publicly funded schools including Catholic schools to form clubs for gays and straights in the hope that it would help make homosexuality better accepted among straight students."

    If parliament have not passed the bill, now is the time for everyone opposed to the homosexually oriented provisions to protest and lobby their representatives to vote against it.

    The first question that I want to ask is: Do the Roman Catholic schools receive monies from the province? For what? Do all other private schools receive such money? 

    And why is the province supporting private schools of any stripe? Evidently the notion of keeping church and state apart isn't part of the province's, or perhaps the country's, philosophy.

    Would someone knowledgeable about Ontario's and Canada's policies on primary and secondary education please speak up?

    • Mary

       Usually when religious conglomerations take money from the government, this is an open door for the government to intrude in that conglomerations politics and this is why churches in America refuse to be government run because then they would have to answer to said government.

      • Vazir Mukhtar

        Mary,

        It isn't only religious "conglomerations" [nice word] that become entangled with various governmental bodies, as you know.

        In the States the states have surrendered themselves to the federal government. When the feds offer to pay 90% of the cost of building a super highway, it's very hard not  to go for it, despite the lack of thinking about their, the states, will be paying for the upkeep of the road as long as it is used.

        President Nixon declared war on drugs. Someone with authority and good sense should declare not war, of course, but that now is the time to cut our Washington super-nanny's apron strings.

  • Noni77

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    When we are held accountable, it won't only be the wicked held responsible for their thought and deed, but the righteous who FAILED to correct them.

  • deena01

    When Conservative Christians gain back the power from the non-believers of ethics, The memory of Obama and those that he inspired will be nothing but a nightmare and forgotten.  There is NO room for Government in Religious Communities.  I am not against the rights of the gay and lesbian Communities.  I am against the Government forcing their will against any other Religious communities.  Here I thought Canada was going to be our light of Freedom when the dust falls down upon the Obama Disaster.  How wrong am I???? VERY.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/EQ4NKPCK73TK3SI7XJ7D7OAXBA duane a.

    It is spreading !  First Obozo attacks the Catholic church and now the Gaynadian bacon is attacking the church. Thought this was all settled in 1776!  Do we need a  Re-DO?

  • Tjohn

    So, Glen Murray is demonstrating his skills as a bully. Let me see? Was that a bill about bullying?

  • Star Czar

    As Nancy said, Just Say No...

  • aurora9

    This person will be only instilling more resentment in the public.  He is stepping on others' beliefs in order to justify his perversion.  The La-La-Land liberals are going to find that their whole strategy is going to backfire!

  • Steve

    This is not the complete list; it was taken from the 45 Communist goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963.

    Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963 Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .

    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.” 

    (Leviticus 20:13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.)

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”
    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    Luke 10:18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
    In ancient Hebrew the word for lightning is barack, the word for heaven or the
    heights is bama and to connect the words either an “a” or an “o” is used.

    “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” – Barack Hussein Obama – Audacity of Hope

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 (King James Version)
    3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    Political Correctness a term first seen in Mao’s Little Red Book, a communist engendered abomination that is instituting censorship little by little.

    “If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”- George Washington

    Carl Marx, once wrote that, the goal of the Communists was to quote,. “enter into men’s minds and cast God down from his throne.”

    Matthew 12:31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

     

    In ancient Babylon their economy was based on usury.
    “If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not be like a moneylender; charge him no interest. Exodus 22:25
    Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him. Ezekiel 18:13
    Usury is unlawful; expressly prohibited by GOD!
     Article 1 Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution clearly states that only the Congress can print and coin money! 

    The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was slipped thru congress during the Christmas break with the majority of it’s members absent. 

    The Federal Reserve is self serving and privately owned in violation to the Constitution, charging interest on illegally printed money. Money printed from nothing!
    In America On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. Five months later A UNITED STATES PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY was MURDERED BY COMMUNIST! 

    Our own US Congress voted themselves a raise. (But vetoed a raise for those on Social Security) A member of Congress only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus.  If some one in the military stays  in for 20 years (providing that they are not killed in combat before that) and gets out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $2,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm's way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.

    “If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not be like a moneylender; charge him no interest. Exodus 22:25
    Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him. Ezekiel 18:13
    Usury is unlawful; expressly prohibited by GOD!
     
     
    In ancient Babylon their priest sacrificed babies to their gods baal, and molech.  
    In America the communist under their socialist programs have sacrificed over 50 million American babies to their god satan!
    Leviticus 20:2-5
    2Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel , Whosoever he be of the children of Israel , or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel , that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.
    3And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.
    4And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not:
    5Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people.
     
    Luke 22:35-36 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered. 36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
     
     
    Jeremiah 50:16Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the SICKLE in the time of harvest: for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own land.
    Jeremiah 50:23How is the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH CUT ASUNDER AND BROKEN! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations!
    BABYLON = the HAMMER and SICKLE!
     
     
    Jeremiah 50:14 “ Put yourselves in array against Babylon all around, All you who bend the bow; Shoot at her, spare no arrows, For she has sinned against the LORD.

    All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD will I destroy them. Psalm 118:10

    “The thing that separates the American Christian from every other person on earth is the fact that he would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!”. George Washington

      2 Timothy 2:15   Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 

    Jeremiah 48: 10Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.

    Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying , Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down , and shall be found no more at all.

    “NO KING BUT KING JESUS!”
            

     

  • Sean murry

    The SOBs would like to do this to the catholic churches and schools here.They can stick this sickness where the sun dont shine.

  • WildBill

    "He is using his position as a cabinet minister to push his personal
    homosexual philosophy onto the people of Quebec. "      So just who is the bully here?

  • SetOurChildrenFree

    This is where the line should be drawn.  If Canadians Catholics allow this to stand, all other freedoms are subject to fall. 

  • Sutekh

    Why should we be shocked by this. The Nazism of homophiliacs is well-known, and should shock even the ordinary garden variety homosexual who just wants to be left alone.  This pronouncementis indeed a declaration of war, and in a war, there are no innoent bystanders.

    But, then again, among the many rumors about Obama is that he is a closet homosexual. One thing that is not rumor is that he, too, has  declared war on all Christian churches that will not agree to turn heretic to please his royal majesty.

    The Churches that are, as Mary say, "part of the new world order" belong to the Communist-initiated World Council of Churches. Anyone looking for a church home should, in addition to being wary of Koresh-like cults, should alse beware of WCC/NCC member organizations.

  • Al Green

    LOOK AT GLEN MURRAYS LIPS, he is obviously one of THEM !!!!

  • Dodie1990

    When the churches stop being tax exempt them they can do what they wish. As long as they get a free ride, they should not complain when the providers of that ride try to try some strings to it.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KPYYIGJGWJJOUDSMXO5XAAONCA Joan C

       Why doesn't the Government do an investigation on all the store front and home "churches" that seem to be cropping in many  American towns.  There was one in a private home, on my street a few years ago,using a tax free status.  Believe me, the "parishioners" attended "services,"   but I doubt there was much religion discussed, if you catch my drift.  It is no longer in operation.  This is a ploy, used by some to reap the benefits of a tax free benefit.   Check them out first,  before going after a true church of God.

  • Mary

    Bishop Compares Obama Policies To Hitler, Stalin.
    Urges Catholics to Vote Conservative

     http://www.newsmax.com/US/bishop-obama-compared-hitler/2012/04/17/id/436222

  • ThomNJ

    The church needs to tell this guy, politely, to "kiss their collective asses".

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/27EEWCWITYBKD32PRV44AZX3NM toml

    Never can any church accept government supervision on what it teaches in any of its ministries.  On this issue, people of all faiths must unite to either have the bill withdrawn or to press enough lawmakers to vote no confidence in the government.  Failing that, an appeal must be made to the Canadian Constitutional Court and to political organization to vote down lawmakers supporting the bill in favor of those supporting religious bodies to order their own doctrine.

  • http://WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTYRADIOSHOW.COM TOM P O'DONNELL

    PRAY THAT WE FIND A CURE FOR THIS ILLNESS. 

  • sfcpete

    Ontairo is for the most part a plain old British colony - therefore they carress the Queens bottom and follow the dictated of the Church of England - which is anti-Catholic.  We the citizens of the Republic should close the borders both North and South.

  • Samtman

    Canada is a true Democracy, someday soon the US  will also have freedom of expression and will  and tear itself away from the far right unconstitutional   dogma of enequality for woman and other natural sexes.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_REFOGE4Q2OLNXCSQA3KT6623FE Joe in CT

    "Diversity"? No, Perversity. Here is a person with immoral human values using his government post to force everyone else to accept it and teach it, regardless of their own individual religious/moral beliefs. This is wrong. While I'm not well-versed in Canadian law, I believe I am in USA law, and a supposed former professor of Constitutional law is attempting to accomplish the same thing in our country. So, as far as I am concerned, we have a POTUS who is either a Muslim or a secularist; whichever is irrelevant, because he is obviously not a Judeo-Christian, and since that is the moral background for our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights, and the concept of individual, Natural Law which underlies all of the above, such a person cannot be a POTUS. November 2012 cannot come soon enough. We have a wolf in our henhouse which needs to be rooted out so we can restore our life in this country in accordance with the concepts which supported every act of our Founders. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KPYYIGJGWJJOUDSMXO5XAAONCA Joan C

      The   "Constitutional Scholar" quoted the Constitution , however the document he quoted was the   Declaration of Independence.     I don't know which one of the  "57" states he was in when he "misspoke."

  • apache6

    IT'S a "GLOBAL WAR" against "CHRISTIANS" !! P.S. the next "POPE" (PETRUS ROMANUS) will be the one who leads the "ONE WORLD CHURCH" CHRISLIM !!

  • BethHarbin

    THE GREATER THE POWER, THE MORE DANGEROUS THE ABUSE.
    EDMUND BURKE

  • julian8

    Did he say this the the Iman's at the local Mosque, I doubt the coward did.
    I hope the Catholic church there fliles a descrimination suit as being singled out by this coward and that he is forced to tell all religions in Canada they must do this also.
    He is effectually telling them they cannot practice their religion but only a (blasphemous) version made up by him.
    Thus freedom of religion no longer exists in Canada..... 

  • Rickbskt

    Are Catholic priests...etc and Protestants who believe what the bible says about homosexuality suppose to, now all of a sudden, re-interpret the bible and go against their belief because one man is promoting that change? Should not and will not happen if the Catholic Church has any gonads.

  • dugiewugie

    I am waiting to see what the catholic church does. Will they stand strong in their beliefs.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KPYYIGJGWJJOUDSMXO5XAAONCA Joan C

      YES, they will, and so will every true catholic.  

  • d rash

    Hey, I WILL NOT BEND!  I say to the Obama government, ...I will not submit!  When the deed is done, and the war is lost, and you try to make me pay for insurance, that covers birth control and abortions, YOU Mr. Government mandate, WILL LOSE!  REPEAT, I WILL NOT SUBMIT!  What will I do?  Simple!  I will close my doors!  And, I suggest that EVERY business in the country, do the very same thing!  CLOSE YOUR DOORS!  MAKE THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE 100% instead of 8 percent!  Watch how fast the rule gets changed, if EVERY BUSINESS closed their doors on the same day!  Close your doors at 8:00 AM, and by 5 PM, THERE WILL be a new law!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWAAFFBVKAROICVSLJNTZJPMBA HELEN

    Lord, have mercy upon us!

    Revival - Canada.  Revival - US.  Revival - Mexico.

    If the Lord is not in it, the plan will not stand the test of time and tribulation.

  • Proverbs31woman

    The key here is 'publically funded'.  If Christian and other private schools were not in bed with the government they would be less likely to be forced to follow the governments mandates. Taking  'free' government funds will always result in losing some of our God given freedoms. Take your kids out of government schools and private chools that are owned (receive funding) by the government.

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