California Pushing Bill That Outlaws Parents’ Rights of Pro-Heterosexual Counseling

As the parent of a child or teenager, what would you do if you found out they started to question their sexual identity?  As a Christian parent, would you not sit down with your son or daughter and discuss the sinful nature of homosexuality with them?

If some California legislators get their way, you could be arrested and charged with child abuse.

California Senate Bill 1172 would make any kind of sexual orientation change efforts (SOCE) by therapists, psychologists, counselors and parents an illegal act punishable by arrest, fines and/or jail time.  The bill, which has already made it through its first committee hearing, would require adults seeking therapy or counseling to fill out a consent form containing specific questions on sexual orientation.  Most professionals who have reviewed the consent form and questions are against the measure.

When it comes to minors, the bill forbids any and all sexual orientation change efforts by professionals or parents, regardless of the parent’s wishes.  Even though parents are still legally responsible for their children, questions of sexual orientation will be completely removed from their rights as parents.  Sponsors of the bill claim that minors face serious health risks due to family pressure and possible rejection.

Pacific Justice Institute President Brad Dacus described Senate Bill 1172 stating,

"It not only gives stark penalties and liabilities against counselors and psychologists attempting to assist adults wanting or asking for therapy regarding sexual orientation issues, but it outright bans and prohibits anyone under the age of 18 to have any pro-heterosexual counseling or therapy when they are struggling with their sexual orientation.  Worse yet is if parents are caught being non-supportive of their child's perception of homosexuality in any way, then that is deemed abuse by parents under this statute and grounds for the government to permanently take that child from their parents."

"I can honestly say this is one of the most outrageous, speech-chilling bills we have ever seen in California -- and that's saying a lot."

Pacific Justice Institute attorney Matthew McReynolds attended the Senate committee meeting where they discussed SB 1172.  He expressed the firms opposition to the bill and reported that,

“SB 1172 blames those who believe change is possible for gay suicides, guilt, substance abuse, relationship problems, and a host of other ills.  As if all that were not enough, the bill claims that sexually-confused youth who experience ‘family rejection … face especially serious health risks’ and the state has a ‘compelling interest’ to protect their health. The logical implication from these two assertions is that the state is giving itself the power to take kids away from parents who do not affirm the kids’ sexual confusion.”

California Senate Bill 1172 is another attempt by gay activists to obtain preferential treatment and criminalize anyone who opposes them.  They do not want equality.  They want superiority and power to control and dominate.  Their desire is to replace the red and white stripes on the American flag with the colors of a rainbow.

If you live in California, please, please, please contact your state senator and urge them to protect family values and parent’s rights by defeating Senate Bill 1172.  If you know anyone who lives in California, please forward this blog to them and urge them to do the same.  This bill must, and I repeat, must be defeated and the only way for that to happen is for you and your family and friends to take immediate action.

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  • Normal_Guy

    Decades of assault on Boy Scouts for trying to keep homosexual men way from young boys, relentless assault on centuries old definition of marriage, etc.. And now this nonsense, which is not so much about homosexual rights as it is another step in the ongoing effort to erode the traditional family structure.

  • Scooter

    And they wonder way so many people are leaving California.

  • concerned

    This is the same mentality that prompted me to pack up and move out of California.

    • Nancy Sternberg

      Good to see you Raymond!

  • Raymond1

    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Isaiah 5:20,21

  • Raymond1

    Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Galations 6:7

  • Raymond1

    If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/THIJICVWKV4GG7ZWPGPSJF6AJY Ben

      OK, now quote the verses about eating shellfish, wearing clothing of mixed fibers, planting two different crops in the same field, selling your daughter into slavery in a foreign land, killing your children when they sass you, and on and on. Why do you "good Christians" pick on this ONE THING?

      • Raymond1

        Proverbs 10:9
        He that walketh uprightly walketh surely: but he that perverteth his ways shall be known.

      • LittleMissInfidel

        The NEW Testament, which Christians follow, ALSO says that no homosexual will EVER see the Kingdom.

  • Raymond1

    The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 22:5.

  • Raymond1

    Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. Romans 1: 24, 25, 26, 27.

    • Poppo

      God Bless You, Raymond. You always speak the truth!

      • Raymond1

        Thank you for your kind words.

  • julian8

    They wanted it to be OK to be homosexual, and we said OK.
    They won't stop until it is not OK to not be homosexual.
    Then what will they want? Power corrupts

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/THIJICVWKV4GG7ZWPGPSJF6AJY Ben

      Yes, power does corrupt. That's why heterosexuals were able for so many centuries to make being gay illegal and subject gays to police pogroms.

      • sandman

        where is or was it illegal to be gay?, I'll tell you where, any country that has sharia law, and if you keep this up......

      • viancome

        So now people like you want to make it illegal to even think that homosexuality is immoral and wrong. If a person wants to be gay, fine be gay, just dont force it down every ones throat and cry about equal rights while pushing for more rights than every one else.

    • disgusted by the left

      That is pretty much where the gay and lesbian rights groups are. They are the intolerant ones. First of all as a parent the government has no right to tell me how to raise my child. Second this law is a 1st 8th (making a crime out of something that isn't) and 9th (using someone's rights to violate the rights of another). The left especally the gay and lesbian lobby love violating the 9th amendment. They want their rights, but want everyone Else's trampled.

    • Rooster

      Don't you mean not ok to be heterosexual?

  • flaphil

    Is Mexisocialistornia still a member of the USA? It has to be miserable for people with morals and standards. I lived there in the early nineties because of my work and was never so glad to leave a place.

  • Nancy Sternberg

    I have this recommendation to parents that are facing this kind of a problem. Stay away from professional counseling agencies. Find a church that uses a Bible, preferably The King James Version. Do not trust any mental health agency whatsoever.

  • Wayne

    Can we just kick start the San Andreas fault and push California out to sea before they can cause anymore of their stupidity to slough off onto the rest of this country? Why is it that this weird crap always seems to start in California? This crap must stop NOW.

    • CJ-CA

      This would rid the rest of this state, where I live, of San Francisco and Los Angeles - the hotbeds of liberal mentality.

    • Drdbiggs

      Sell California to China to pay off our national debt & throw the fa99ots (San Francisco) in for free!!

    • philipsquires

      "Can we just kick start the San Andreas fault and push California out to sea before they can cause anymore of their stupidity to slough off onto the rest of this country?"

      If we did that then all those lieberals will move to other parts of the country, possibly where we live. I'd rather have them stay right where they are.

    • twentytwentyvision

      Gays are going to have to rush to take over California before Hispanics take it back for Mexico. If we just give the state to Mexico, the idiots that run the state would have a whole country of peons they could dominate. A condition of the transfer would be that all illegal aliens in the rest of the country would have to hightail it to California. Come to think about it, not such a bad idea. Other border states should just buy them free tickets to California as soon as they cross the border. Of course they would have to give up their religion to embrace the gay agenda being pushed in California, but they should realize everything has a price.

  • junkmailbin

    another example of 5 % trying to push ROUND THE 95 % WITH THE HELP OF PANDERING Politicians

    • disgusted by the left

      typical tactive of the left and a violation of the 9th amendment. Use the "civil rights" of a so called special group to violated, trample, invalidate or otherwise disenfranchise another.

    • JoJo58

      It's not even 5%! It's less than 2%...it only seems like it's more because the gay community is organized, well funded and willing to commit violence and blackmail in order to further their agenda. It their minds, the ends justify the means. A very scary group. Makes you wonder what they are afraid of with heterosexual counseling.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JKLLPVKKSWYRHLZH3LDQMZRW6A dean

    I just wish California would secede from the union. That would bring the average national I.Q. level up 10 plus points,

  • Sam

    This is the latest in a long line of many. High schools can give your children birth control, help with abortion all without parental knowledge never mind consent yet we must continue to pay for them regardless. The very first day one of these unfair laws was put on the books without outrage which started I believe in 1954 with Affirmative Action was the day we went slowly into the void. Complain loudly and often to your politicians.

  • dntmkmecomoverther

    "California Senate Bill 1172
    would make any kind of sexual orientation change efforts (SOCE) by
    therapists, psychologists, counselors and parents an illegal act
    punishable by arrest, fines and/or jail time."

    Let's have these legislators 'bring it on' and have a REAL debate about the US Constitution's First
    Amendment. Then, whoever or whomever brought this bit of garbage legislation can be impeached and locked in a dark room for the rest of their lives. I have never in my life seen such attacks on our Constitution; and from those who are not foreigners!... Where's the SEALS? We really need 'em!

    • CJ-CA

      The SEALs, along with 32nd Street Naval Base, CoronadoNAS, Camp Pendleton and Miramar MAS are located in San Diego County - a non-liberal, non-fanatic controlled area of California.

  • JJM

    Totally unacceptable. Society starts at the family level, expands thru the local community up to the national level. This is an obvious assault on the family and thus on society in general.
    So children are to be exposed to homosexual study at school and then it is illegal to help straighten out their confused minds? How idiotic can things get with toooo much governmental control?
    Next it will be illegal to insist that children attend church with family if they prefer to poison their minds with TV and games during service.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/THIJICVWKV4GG7ZWPGPSJF6AJY Ben

      If a child is not homosexual, then learning about it will not confuse their minds. After all, homosexual children have "learned" about heterosexuality all their lives, and it has not confused them. They still know they're gay.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2AWBS7UL27Z7ULVPKYTND6ZXJI Lisa

        This is TRAINING a whole new generation to accept being used...for whatever purposes that the main stream population is against. As in...being led to being "fresh meat."
        For century after century, the youth of the world has always rebelled against their elders. This is a long held, and well acknowledged, tradition. This is nature's way of having our children self-push themselves out of the family nest. So far so good.
        HOWEVER, those who want to create a generation with zero population increase, have been encouraging these same sex unions. The way they have chosen to do this...is the complete misuse of our school systems, by pushing on under age children (i.e. kindergarten) that homosexuality is not only accepted but that it is 100% normal.
        The schools have been teaching these children not only how to abuse their parents with false charges, but now...they have formally started to go after parents with yet another weapon that a temper-tantrum-throwing-under-age-child can use against their parents whether the charge is true or not. Most parental counselings are parent-child, without some 3rd party able to witness, and fighting this charge will be like trying to beat back a hurricane strength wind. DIFFICULT.

      • LittleMissInfidel

        NO child is EVER gay. It's a choice they make later on. The confused ones are the ones that idiots like YOU keep telling that it's ok to be gay, when it isn't.

  • Wyatt

    California , now becoming Homo central . Must be the air

  • tomtom

    Please NAME these SICK politicians who would vote for this !
    California gets SICKER every day.

  • Bill Slater

    A friend once commented that it appeared as though the US tilted to the SW and everything loose rolled into California. My guess is, that should this idiotic piece of legislation pass, the California penal system had best plan for enlarged facilities.

  • rchguns

    It is about time to plant several thermal nuclear devices along the San Andreas fault as send this whole bowl of granola called California into the ocean. This whole state is an insult to America where morals take a backseat to everything. If the perverts, animals, and lowlife nut jobs would stay inside the borders of California there be no problem. But as it stands now they have all but destroyed the economy not only in California but of Oregon and Washington.
    California is a malignant cancer on the body of America or at least a massive boil on America's but that needs to be lanced.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Desade/1587910978 Mark Desade

    Personally, I think the Supreme Court would overturn this as its against the 1st Amendment right to freedom of worship. But I'm tired of a small vocal group pushing around the majority. If this passes, we need to rise up and revolt! Hang any politician that voted for this outside the California capital and hunt down and kill their followers. They are a very small percentage of the population and this could be done in a month or less. This will drive any of their supporters underground for good (until we can find them and execute them too!). Everything gay must go! Politicians, gays, their organizations, buildings, cities, etc. until they are all gone!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2AWBS7UL27Z7ULVPKYTND6ZXJI Lisa

      Somehow, I think that your declared solution, violates the 1st Amendment.
      You want to re-think this one??

  • bobnews

    This
    is nothing for the California legislature.
    By the time these homosexual obsessed people are done it will be mandatory for
    parents to provide gay mentors for their children as they enter kindergarten. I
    am not kidding. The California State Capitol building is host to thousands of
    bus loads of school kids brought to the Capital to learn about government every
    year. Elected officials have placed a "homosexual history" wall that
    the kids have to walk by when they take their tour of the building. They
    also passed a law mandating schools have to teach gay history. By the way,
    there is no end game for the gay agenda and they will continue to make law for
    gay priorities until everyone is homosexual or at least says they are.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/THIJICVWKV4GG7ZWPGPSJF6AJY Ben

      "
      they will continue to make law for
      gay priorities until everyone is homosexual or at least says they are."

      What nonsense.

      • LittleMissInfidel

        How is this nonsense? Homosexuality is a immoral lifestyle choice created by Satan, Satan wants everyone to disobey and mock God, so he will keep trying to destroy everything good.

    • nubarim

      This is the reason I moved my business out of Potland(California).

  • PDavis

    California is the cesspool for all evil. Everything that is wrong and evil starts in California. No coincidence that is where Hollywood is. The great backers of Obama. That should tell everyone something!

    • Poppo

      If God does not destroy California, will he apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah?

      • Notmy America

        I believe God will let California destroy itself due to all of the blatant disregard and all of the attacks on Jesus and his followers! I was born in General Hospital on Fort Presidio and when, as an adult, went and lived in Sacramento (also visited San Fransisco) I was appalled at what I saw.. I moved away as soon as I could. And have not been since.. the men turning into women, and I'm not even talking about transvestites yet. The parades showing the exact perversion of their minds, and well, showing just about everything else too..

        They still have time to repent, but I don't see it happening...

  • TPS12

    Let's give California to Russia

    • f8tul

      I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.. Let's give California to the Sharks... blow the San Andreas from Mexico to Canada and not build any bridges... They can have Rainbow village all they want.. only if....

  • Jason_Wise

    If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13
    Does the word AIDS come to mind? Sinners hate to die alone, so they are trying to turn everyone into one of them.

    • Downvoted

      Actually the numbers show otherwise. It's straight people who acquire and die from aids. Just doing some fact checking for you.

  • steveni

    Screw this Law. They want to force your children to be Gay.

    • nubarim

      Don't say "gay". Gay means happy. If you mean queer say queer.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2AWBS7UL27Z7ULVPKYTND6ZXJI Lisa

      YES. By indoctrinating from kindergarten through their senior year of high school, this is exactly what these leftist lunatics are doing. ONLY, this will work just as long as the kids do not watch what happens in nature, and the best way to educate them...correctly...is to take them to a farm.
      If you watch cattle long enough, you will see the bulls chasing and copulating with the cows, not bulls chasing bulls for the same activity. In a field of same sex cattle, you will see a show of dominance, but the copulatory act is never seen. This, alone, should spell out what is natural, and what is not.

  • sandman

    ever hear of Sodom an Gammora? this might be the straw that broke the Lords Back? this is realy going to far, we have to stop what we are doing and say a few prayers for these fools in Californacation, they are making a mockery of natural law. I didn't mind so much when they stayed in the closit, or in there own homes, or said nothing and went about there lives quietly, but now this, this is too far!!!

  • Starfire

    If the present administration is reelected it could become nationwide with the presidents blessing.
    Woe onto America, judgment has already begun.

  • finishstrongdoc

    Tell me: Who gets the lawsuit when the government controlled mind goes bad and kills or robs or rapes? Under ObamaCare, we all have to do as we're told like nice little girls and boys or we have to pay a fine. So we do that, and life still goes bad......what then ? Blame Bush?

    When a bill tells people HOW to think, then I suppose that's the end of representative government. Maybe we all just let ACLU tell us what to think...how's that grab you ?

  • Doodlebug

    It is unfortunate that what starts in California often spreads like wildfire. Since when don't parents have any rights? It would seem to me that if you life there, you either should not have any children or get the H out. When is this sinful, nonsense going to stop? It seems if you are the majority you are wrong and the minority takes over..

  • finishstrongdoc

    Why can't these gay rights groups be charged under the RICO statute, as a racket? Sure, sodomy has now been "legalized" (Lawerence v Texas), but tell me again....does that mean we all have to give SPECIAL LEGAL accommodation to gays? How about the 14th Amendment ? Equal Protection....NOT UNequal protection. All you have to prove under RICO is a "pattern" of illegal activity by an organization over a ten-year period. Why isn't it illegal to FORCE UNequal, FAVORABLE treatment of gays on everyone? What is this, like MUSLIMS, where you "convert or die, Christian" ???? TWBH !!! ---what the
    bloody hell !!!---- fugggaddhere !!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/2AWBS7UL27Z7ULVPKYTND6ZXJI Lisa

      There is a sad fact, that comes with sodomy. It is called incontinence, and it does not take long.
      If there is only one thing that I can control, I choose...to control myself, and my bodily functions. Not being able to control my bowel, is something that I will not happily accept, no matter who says.

  • krulma

    Pure evil is in control at all levels of government. Here is just anothr example

  • Blair

    What do the libtards have against parents?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Koffer/1020263329 Dave Koffer

    Great article, Godfather! Unbelievable, just absolutely unbelievable! The government has absolutely NO right or authority to take power away from the private family!! This is like communism or fascism where a person must give up their life, their very humanity to the government or the state! This is truly desptcable! In this country WE have the right to make OUR OWN decisions as to what's best for our families, PERIOD!!

  • Poppo

    California, the Cereal Bowl (full of Flakes, Nuts, and Fruits).

  • Seneca

    This is the most outrages legislation I have ever seen. In my opinion, It appears that Hitler's Nazis are alive and well in the California Senate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mac-McKinney/1331922851 Mac McKinney

    This is why we need to get all the liberal out of public office in California. The only thing thats going to save this Country is to vote out Obama and all the liberal heathens along with him. California needs to vote Conservative Republican, I know I'm dreaming but it's the only way the state will survive. Lord help us.

  • Sutekh

    Everything is stacked against decency. The homosexuals can teach homosexuality, but heterosexuals can't teach heterosexuality.
    Makes me start to wonder if we should still believe the homosexual civil rights claim that a person is "born that way." If they actually believed that, they wouldn't object to both sides being presented. What it looks like to me is that they want to teach young kids to be gay, without having to worry about interference. Why would they need to do that, if the kid was "born that way"?

  • Walt

    As far as I am concerned - when the state pays for them, raises them, feeds and clothes them and otherwise raises them then they can have some say. Until then; they are my kids, my responsibility in my house and will be trained as I see fit. I see fit to say the Homosexuals, Gays, Lesbians and anyone else who would destroy our family values is an enemy and should be avoided. These people are on their way to hell and want to take you with them. I don't want to go.

  • Charles_Higley

    So, are ALL of the people on that committee gay? Why would they be so totally against the normal state of humans. Counseling would also help the confused child to decide that they are gay. It is not a given that they would be prevented from being what they are.

  • Fred_K

    These people are totally insane. This is rediculous and should not even ge given the time of day. It infringes on the responsibilities of the parents who are responsible for their children until they are 18. I hope the California legislature wakes up, and sends this atrocity to the trash where it belongs.

  • willhen50

    Another example of the homosexual crowd cramming their belief down our throats and telling people how to raise their own children. The kids are being brainwashed by the way television and movies are portraying the gay lifestyle, the gays are having fun, rich, and sucessful. Kids as young as being in elementary school are seeing this as cool. The teenage suicide rate is high because of gender crisis, and the parent should have a right to speak to their kids about that.

  • Lois MacLaren

    In Colorado, there is a move afoot which would prevent the average Church Secretary and/or Sunday School teacher and other volunteers in ALL churches, synagogues, etc.,across the entire state, from praying with individuals who call in or who otherwise contact the church UNLESS the church secretaries, Sunday School teachers and other church volunteers have an official, state-recognized DEGREE in counseling! In Colorado, a "state-recognized degree in counseling" has increasingly come to mean "enthusiastically endorsing the entire political agenda of glbt political activists." Time for everyone to begin learning whether or not you state still allows a church secretary, Sunday School teacher, usher or other church volunteer to pray with any who come to the church, requesting prayer support. If this has NOT happened in YOUR state yet, you need to become aware of everything which Colorado has been attempting to do in recent years to prohibit everyone in a church and/or synagogue who does NOT have an official, state-recognized degree in counseling from serving in ANY position which might be construed by state officials as "counseling."

  • GDC97

    It is getting to the point that homosexuals need to be exterminated.

  • iweejane

    Umm...isn't that flag that the guy's waving desecration? I mean, isn't it just as bad as the flag with Obama's face on it? These people (term used loosely here) have no respect for what MOST of us hold dear...they will be judged.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BX23PSBVNKZBEOCXROD4555EFQ Ken

    I had a dream recently. It was so vivid, I awoke at 3am, which is abnormal for me.

    I was standing with a large group of people, & they were intently looking up in the sky. It was like it was very early morning, just as the day is dawning. As I started to try to see what it was that the crowd was looking at, suddenly I realized that it was Jesus! I started jumping up & down with all my might & yelling: "It's Him! It's Him!" At that moment I awoke, and I had cold chills all over me, & I could literally feel the presence of the Lord. It took over an hour to calm down, & it was all I could do to keep from shouting Hallelujah over & over again. I have never experienced a dream this real before in my life, & I am convinced this dream came from the Lord.

    Friends, Jesus is coming soon. It will be a time of great celebration for those who are looking for His appearance. For you who don't want Him to be your King, it will be a terrifying time to see the Lord of all creation in all of his glory, & surrounded by the armies of Heaven.

    I hope this encourages each & every one of you out there. Jesus loves you all & does not want anyone to perish. It's up to you to receive Him into your heart as Savior & Lord. Do not delay; do not put off getting yourself right with Him, because you never know when the end of the world might be for you.

  • Rooster

    We ain't allowed by law to teach our own kids what is right, and the liberals wonder why the world is not getting better under their control. Lenin must be so proud! No Soviet Communist could have done it better!

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.w.petty Mike Petty

    I don't care what "law" the government passes. I WILL NOT HAVE MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TAKEN FROM ME!!! Freedom of religion gives me the power to raise my children as Christian boys. Under Christianity, homosexuality is NOT an option. Once they are adults, they may chose their own path, and I will love them just the same. But, as long as I am their father, I WILL RAISE MY BOYS...NOT THE GOVERNMENT.

  • Texas Chris

    Leviticus 18 Unlawful Sexual Realations Verse22: “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
    And then there is another
    Leviticus 20:13 reads If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

    God does not hate people. God only hates the acts of perversion. This is one of the reasons I believe he tells us not to judge people.. But what about the acts of that person?

    I will pray for each and every Homosexuals and pray that they find the Lord, God before it is too late to get to know the wondrous love he has for ALL of his children.