Public Schools Get No Confidence Vote

For those of you who attended public school in the 1960s and early 1970s, you experienced an educational system far different from that of today.

In the 60s and early 70s, teachers still had authority to actually teach and discipline students.  If a student turned in failing material, the teacher didn’t hesitate to give little Johnny an F or even hold him back a grade.  Educators believed that educating Johnny was more important than making him feel good about himself.

If a student was disruptive, they were handily dealt with.  If they got violent, they were often expelled from school.  It wasn’t uncommon for a teacher and/or school administrator to use corporal punishment when it was necessary.

I’ll never forget the time that I got swats from a teacher, more swats from the principal and a belt from my father, all for the same offense.  I was in second grade at the time and it made such an impression on me that it changed what I did.

In today’s schools, teachers have no authority.  They aren’t allowed to use corporal punishment or even do anything to hurt little Johnny’s self-image.  It doesn’t matter if Johnny fails, he still moves on to the next grade, regardless if he can read, write or do common arithmetic.

In many of the country’s public schools, they have become more of a training center for a very liberal social agenda.  They are being taught to think more of globalism than American patriotism and more of themselves than others around them.  I’ve seen some schools that are teaching their students that America is the villain and enemy of the rest of the world, and the list of social liberalism goes on and on.

The changing focus of the public schools is also changing the way Americans view them.  In the latest Gallup Poll, confidence in the public schools is at a 40 year low.

In 1973, 58% of Americans answered that they had ‘a great deal’ or ‘quite a lot’ of confidence in the nation’s public schools.  In the most recent poll, the number expressing a great deal or quite a lot of confidence sunk to a mere 29%.  That’s less confidence than what they have in the presidency (37%) and the medical system (41%).

When you look at the poll results over the past 40 years, you can see that as the public schools turned away from sound teaching to social training grounds, Americans lost more and more confidence in them.  As public schools replaced teaching sound moral values with decadence and promiscuity, Americans lost more and more confidence in them.  The more schools rewrote American history and replaced it with secular lies, Americans lost more and more confidence in them.

Consequently, more parents are opting to either put their kids in private schools or home school them themselves where they can not only teach them the basics, but also teach them a sense of morals and values they wouldn’t learn in public schools.  If I were a parent of school aged kids, I would do everything I could to prevent my kids from attending public school and I would strongly suggest that those of you who do have kids in public school do likewise.

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  • spanabama

    The problem is the majority of property taxes go to education. Now you're not only paying the public school, while your kids go to a private school which has seen skyrocketing tuition fees. I believe that if you put your child into a private school, you should get a rebate from the education part of your property taxes. But you know that will never happen.

    • http://www.facebook.com/smichaelwilson Scott Wilson

      That will never happen because it is a stupid idea. You don't get a rebate for taxes that paid for things you didn't use. If you don't have a car, you don't get a rebate on taxes that went to road repair. If you don't read, you don't get a rebate on tax money that supports libraries.

  • spanabama

    In addition to the above, check out how silly this is.......My son-in-law teaches High School in the Chicago public school system. He has told me that if a fight breaks out between students, a teacher can only put his body between the two students and seperate them without putting his hands on them. They cannot grab the fighting students with their hands in order to seperate them. True Story, he just told me about this today! Tell me this country isn't going to the dogs!!! However, much of the blame can be put on lawyers and their frivolous money making law suits which causes most of these really stupid rules.

    • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

      That's to protect the teacher from legal liability. It sounds as though Chicago schools need to have cops assigned to them full-time.

      • Mary

        A lot of the schools have cops or security guards but it seems they're missing in action when TSHTF.

    • Mary

      My son has a friend who's father taught public school. He had a really tall black boy punch him hard in the face. What the kid didn't know was the teacher was a black belt in karate. The teacher beat the kid up and get fired. He told me he wasn't going to stand there and get his face punched in.
      Such is the society we have digressed in.

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

        Hold up just a cotton-pickin' minute---the teacher got fired for defending himself? To me, once a student assaults a teacher, anything to neutralize and eliminate the student's threat should be in play. As for the student, I obviously don't know how old he was, but if the student was of age where he could be prosecuted as an adult, he should be.

        I'd also like to know what's going on at that kid's home.

        • Mary

          yes indeed. He got fired for defending himself. However the kid and his mother tried to sue only to be told they couldn't because the kid initiated the fight.

        • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

          Either way, an innocent person loses his job...but better a job than one's life.

    • dj

      Many school districts don't even try to stop fights. They have on-campus police officers who are called to stop any fighting and arrests are made. Your kid might be in the middle of a group when a fight starts and end up with an arrest record, even if they were victims and not perpetrators. The small city I live near has metal detectors in the schools, on campus police departments, etc.

  • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

    Hear me out on why I will disagree with it---I concede that it may be unpopular, but here goes:

    A school's job is solely to educate and maintain discipline. A parent's job is to teach a love of learning, a sense of motivation, and morals and discipline so that the school can function to educate and maintain discipline in the schools. Generally, the parent should be doing it before the student arrives at school for the first time and should be reinforced throughout the child's time until such time that the child becomes fully independent.

    Where the problem arises is that schools were never designed to do the job of the parents. If parents aren't in strict control of their children in morals, discipline, motivation, and a love of learning, it will drag down the schools as a result in test scores and crime rate. With respect to the teachers, the failure of the parents to teach the aforementioned three requirements I meant prior means that teachers lose control over their students, and in many cases the result is a brain drain...in which quality teachers don't want to teach in troubled neighborhoods that can't keep the discipline problems out. That is also why many parents who work in the public sector will not send their children to public schools; discipline is often the beginning, middle, and end of the argument.

    The result of failures of the parents to do their job goes something like this (and you could equate it to one of those DirecTV commercials): They fail to teach their children discipline/morals/motivation/love of learning, they drag down the schools who then have to perform the parents' duty, they force teachers to do a job that they were never trained - or capable - of doing (a teacher can motivate a struggling student to learn, but not someone who doesn't bother to put in the effort), and teachers see their jobs as a chore and look to get out at the first possibility.

    In short: most of public schools wouldn't be in this state if parents were doing their job in the first place. Because if parents actually did their job, then and only then could you figure out which teachers are actually and objectively hacks...because only then will you have eliminated all extrinsic variables. Primordial responsibility rests with the parents first, teachers second. The sooner parents realize this, the better it will be for America. Until then, I'm not giving the no-confidence vote to the schools, but rather to the parents, with whom the lion's share of responsibility lies.

    • Zulu

      I agree that it all falls back to the parents. As a parent you need to set goals for your kids and encourage them to attain them. As far as discipline the teachers hands have been tied for years. It isn't fair to a teacher to have to put up with their crap. Kids not only bully one another, but the will lie and connive against a teacher that expects them to learn something. Of course, this isn't all students, but those that do hurt the whole system. When I went to school they expelled those we were just there to cause trouble. A public education isn't a right. It's a privilege. Millions of dollars that go to education are spent babysitting thugs and drug dealers. America had better wake up.

    • justdreaming

      Tell me why then, that we were much, much better educated when I was young then the children are getting now? Is the teaching methods? Are teachers becoming complacent? Is it the state tests? Yes, parents should be involved, most are not. Then what? Why have we dropped so far down in our test scores when we use to be #1? Time to get back to basics.

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

        I think that it's primarily discipline and strictness on the part of parents. There may be other factors, but I think it comes down to those two primarily.

        • bwebb

          I totally agree with the above. But I don't fully agree that the public schools are ALL bad. The public school where our son goes is very good and they teach above grade level. We watch very carefully about liberal agenda, because if we see any indoctrination we will yank him out and send him to Christian school. We also have a large sign inside the lobby door - IN GOD WE TRUST. Hopefully that will stay there.

    • dj

      I homeschool and so don't send my kids off somewhere for 8 hours or more a day, but for what it's worth, here's my observation. We have 2 homeschool co-ops in our area, where homeschooled kids can go for classes one day per week in both academic and elective subjects. One co-op allows parents to drop off their kids with teachers they pay, and so have no direct parental supervision during the day. These kids, in spite of Christian upbringing and education, can be pretty rebellious and uncooperative at times, maybe what you would have seen in misbehaving kids in the 50's/60's (think spitballs, being a little mouthy, etc.). The other co-op requires parents to participate in the classrooms, either as teachers or helpers. These kids rarely if ever do anything but listen and participate in class and treat others and the building property with respect, because they know mom is down the hall somewhere ready to take action if they don't. So, before you blame parents, think how hard it is to control your child when they are away from you 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, and how hard it is to maintain a good relationship when even their at-home time is eaten up with homework and extracurricular activities. Some parents manage it, I'm sure, but even some of the best parents at our church have had their public schooled kids come home pregnant or on drugs, in spite of their best efforts to be involved in their kids' lives. The situation is designed to fail, because those supervising during the day have no authority or responsibility, and those with authority and responsibility have no direct contact with their kids during the largest block of waking hours.

    • dondehoff

      Adam, I agree with a lot of what you have said, but the fact is, here we are in a situation that needs immediate action. Re-establishing the "family" will be a lengthy process. First, education needs to come back to the state level, with most input from the local school boards. They are the ones that should be on top of the day to day problems and issues and have fulll authority to manage the situation. The federal level should be but a general overseer and to prevent excesses and abuses. I believe in corporal punishment, failing grades. punishment and holding back of students. The federal, state and local governments should each dictate subjects to be taught, such as the Feds dictating world and U.S. history, the Constitution and similar subjects. The states should be responsible for their history and constitution, and when and when not to include agriculture, forestry or any other local areas of interest/concern. Religions (plural) should be explained, but prohibit the testing, reciting or "play acting" of any religion. And of course, no religion should be presented as superior or inferior to any other. Equal time and effort should be mandated. Every school session should be preceeded by the Pledge of Allegience, followed by a fews moments of complete silence, with just the admonition that each student should pause and reflect upon his own personal priorites and objectives of the day. As for the "God" issue. Let us acknowledge that we all have a "creator" of some kind, and without getting into any religion or the absence thereof, let us, instead of using the term "under God", let us say, "under my (or our) Creator". Also, again without taking sides on or for any religion, or the absence thereor, we all should acknowledge in our history that Christianity was and remains a significant part of this country. To do otherwise would be distorting facts and history. Also, we should never be apologetic for our Republic, Constitutional and freedom way of life. However, other forms of government should be examined. but emphasing that we are a country of laws and that our laws must be adhered to, especially when issues of equality, freedom, tolerance and understanding are involved. Appreciation and understanding of all peaceful religions should be encouraged, as long as they do not impose upon the rights and privilages of others. If I were younger, I would be writing a book--but time dictates I might have to settle for just a web-site.

      • e.semrad

        Hooray for you

    • nmleon

      Nonsense, your argument falls on it's face with only minimal scrutiny.
      If a student does not live up to standard the schools used to expel or fail the kid (as the article stated). Problem solved. Now they give "social promotions" and allow disruptive students to remain not only in school, but in class.

      In the mid '60s the NEA changed their legal status from a Professional Organization to that of a Labor Union. That meant teachers no longer have to meet professional standards to belong to the organization as with Drs, engineers, architects, etc, they just have to get a certificate and pay their dues. The quality of teachers has declined steadily since then,

      One of the (union) NEA's first presidents said in her address to their national convention that teachers had to focus less on academics and more on socialization.

      Teachers and journalists are in a virtual tie for last place in SAT and ACT scores by professions.

      A baccalaureate (4 yr) degree in 1999 was academically almost identical to a high school diploma in 1959.

      Where in the '60s the U.S. was consistently #1 or #2 in education in the developed world, we are now 30th in math, 23rd in science, and 17th in reading.

      Except for it's National Center for Education Statistics (NCES), Get rid of the Department of Education all together.

      Voucher the entire system, and let schools compete for student's money.
      Take away collective bargaining for the teachers unions (and any other public employee unions).

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

        Social promotions - problems with laws, primarily---that isn't on the teachers. As for the quality of teachers, you cannot make the claim that their standards have declined as a statement of fact at this time.

        As for the decline, I can put that directly on the laziness of America. If parents did their jobs, and the young yearned for tough assignments - this must primarily be done through parental reinforcement at the home - you wouldn't see this happening. The problem may not entirely vanish, but I can say that most of the problems will...and then and only then can you tell which teachers are worth it and which are worthless.

        As for vouchers, I am categorically opposed that (but I fully support charter schools) for the major reason of discipline; there is no guarantee that troublemakers will not port their problems onto the unwilling. Those parents who don't send their children to public schools mostly do it to get away from the troublemakers. Charter schools can keep the troublemakers out.

        As such, I reject your claims. Furthermore, if you're going to demonstrate coincidences and not a cause-and-effect relationship...you are part of the problem. Education starts at the home.

        • nmleon

          Social promotions - problems with laws, primarily---that isn't on the teachers.

          It, along with a lack of discipline, lower standard curriculum, higher and higher costs until we are #2 in public school spending while we are at the bottom in results, etc, etc, etc, are all on the public school system which is influenced to an inordinate degree by the teachers unions.

          As for the quality of teachers, you cannot make the claim that their standards have declined as a statement of fact.

          Until the mid '60s a certified teacher had to prove a significant degree of competency to gain membership in the NEA, in much the same way that engineers, architects, doctors, etc have to demonstrate their competency today to belong to their associations and societies.

          Today, examples of incompetent teachers who retain their jobs are common, with most of those incompetents being protected by their union.

          As an example, in the mid '90s we passed a law in NM that all teachers had to be able to pass the same multiple guess tests they were giving their students. 20% of them failed to pass even after three tries. Lest you think that at least we cleaned out the incompetent, under union pressure, 100% of the failures were "grandfathered" in.
          Here's another story that's instructive of what unionization has done to the quality of teachers. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/08/31/090831fa_fact_brill

          When you allow incompetents to stay in any job, you diminish the overall competency rating of the entire group. While I have no doubt that the very best teachers of today are every bit as skilled as the best teachers before the mid '60s, the worst teachers of today would have been summarily fired pre union days. Therefore I can state as a matter of fact that the standards for teachers have declined. It's self evident on the face of it.
          As for the decline, I can put that directly on the laziness of America. If parents did their jobs, and the young yearned for tough assignments - this must primarily be done through parental reinforcement at the home - you wouldn't see this happening.
          The first question would be where did those parents (and grandparents in many cases) learn to leave the raising of their children to the government. Answer: in the union held government school system.
          But even so, if a school has a standard of excellence both academically and behaviorally, a student's home life becomes irrelevant. If he is unable to do the work, he will be held back to repeat the grade. If a student acts out, discipline him and if that doesn't work expel him. The problem from the school's point of view is solved in either case.
          As for vouchers, I am categorically opposed that (but I fully support charter schools) for the major reason of discipline
          Just the opposite, if a 100% voucher system were in place, schools would likely be more like magnet schools, including schools that specialized in "hard case" discipline problems.
          With competition comes consumer targeting. Some pizza parlors have large game areas, some have stage shows, and some are upscale restaurants. It's you the consumer who chooses which establishment to spend your money at.
          Let's make parents consumers when it comes to their kid's education.

        • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

          And I will dispute it again. Here goes:

          It, along with a lack of discipline, lower standard curriculum, higher and higher costs until we are #2 in public school spending while we are at the bottom in results, etc, etc, etc, are all on the public school system which is influenced to an inordinate degree by the teachers unions.

          The curriculum would not have to be lowered if parents did their job and actively encouraged tough activities. Test scores have shown that this is not an across-the-board problem, but rather, only in a few cultures.

          Until the mid '60s a certified teacher had to prove a significant degree of competency to gain membership in the NEA, in much the same way that engineers, architects, doctors, etc have to demonstrate their competency today to belong to their associations and societies.
          Today, examples of incompetent teachers who retain their jobs are common, with most of those incompetents being protected by their union.

          As an example, in the mid '90s we passed a law in NM that all teachers had to be able to pass the same multiple guess tests they were giving their students. 20% of them failed to pass even after three tries. Lest you think that at least we cleaned out the incompetent, under union pressure, 100% of the failures were "grandfathered" in.
          Here's another story that's instructive of what unionization has done to the quality of teachers. (Link removed, but as a resident of New York City, I'm very familiar with the story already.)

          Vis a vis the link, that's a variety of actual guilty parties and people who have been falsely accused of wrongdoing by vengeful students. As for the actual incompetents, all that is needed is to revoke the teaching license of a teacher who cannot pass the test after 2 tries. That's lack of will on the part of state legislators and the voters who put them there. But now...

          The first question would be where did those parents (and grandparents in many cases) learn to leave the raising of their children to the government. Answer: in the union held government school system.But even so, if a school has a standard of excellence both academically and behaviorally, a student's home life becomes irrelevant. If he is unable to do the work, he will be held back to repeat the grade. If a student acts out, discipline him and if that doesn't work expel him. The problem from the school's point of view is solved in either case.

          Schools do not teach people how to be parents; parents teach their children how to be such...as well as life experience. As I see it, a student's home life is the majority of what happens; although a bad homelife can be overcome, it is not irrelevant at all. The problems with learning end up reflecting badly on the teachers in many cases because students are lazy...and it goes double with high-stakes testing. And, some school will have to take them unless they are over 18.

          Now...

          Just the opposite, if a 100% voucher system were in place, schools would likely be more like magnet schools, including schools that specialized in "hard case" discipline problems.With competition comes consumer targeting. Some pizza parlors have large game areas, some have stage shows, and some are upscale restaurants. It's you the consumer who chooses which establishment to spend your money at.
          Let's make parents consumers when it comes to their kid's education.

          When they show that they deserve it. If they are not raising their children responsibily, to me, a voucher is like throwing good money after bad. Plus, why should the bad be rewarded?

        • NM Leon

          The curriculum would not have to be lowered if parents did their job and actively encouraged tough activities. Test scores have shown that this is not an across-the-board problem, but rather, only in a few cultures.

          No, read my first post. The teachers unions have actively (and successfully) worked to dumb down the curricula since the mid '60s. They lobby and finance the campaigns of those that set the curricula, and they have conned parents into going along with it largely without complaint because of course "teachers know what's best for children". That's complete nonsense of course, teachers and teachers unions know what's best for teachers, as former president of the AFT Abert Shanker said "When schoolchildren start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of schoolchildren."

          Vis a vis the link, that's a variety of actual guilty parties and people who have been falsely accused of wrongdoing by vengeful students. As for the actual incompetents, all that is needed is to revoke the teaching license of a teacher who cannot pass the test after 2 tries. That's lack of will on the part of state legislators and the voters who put them there.

          Are you serious? Firing a public school teacher is incredibly difficult. reason.com/assets/db/12639308918768.pdf
          reason.com/archives/2006/10/01/how-to-fire-an-incompetent-tea
          http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/article971795.ece
          tribune-democrat.com/.../Tenured-or-otherwise-incompetent-teachers...
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VceGKNNt-kc

          To again quote Albert Shanker, "..a lot of people who have been hired as teachers are basically not competent"

          Schools do not teach people how to be parents; parents teach their children how to be such...as well as life experience. As I see it, a student's home life is the majority of what happens; although a bad homelife can be overcome, it is not irrelevant at all. The problems with learning end up reflecting badly on the teachers in many cases because students are lazy...and it goes double with high-stakes testing. And, some school will have to take them unless they are over 18.

          As well as actual parenting classes (some mandatory) http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/mamadrama/entries/2008/05/22/new_for_next_school_year_high.html
          http://www.ehow.com/facts_6175819_would-classes-schools-good-idea_.html
          http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/article1074774.ece ,

          When a school overrules parents, as in not approving of a box lunch, not allowing a student to bring medication with him, turning a parent in to the law for spanking, etc, etc, etc, they have undermined the authority of the parent in the eye of the student. That student then has learned that the school is the real authority, and when they send their children off to school, they expect the school to raise their children, and then the cycle repeats again.

          When they show that they deserve it. If they are not raising their children responsibily, to me, a voucher is like throwing good money after bad. Plus, why should the bad be rewarded?

          You do understand what a voucher is don't you? When you give a parent a voucher, you are giving him a piece of paper that the school he chooses to send his child to can turn in for money. It's worthless to the parent except as a means of paying the school for his kid's education.

        • e.semrad

          You should be on the school board--if not the president

        • e semrad

          Right on once again

      • esemrad

        AMEN, AMEN, AMEN

    • e semrad

      This is a good discourse on discipline, but NOT subject matter --which can be untruthful

  • Mary

    I can remember in school as a kid learning about American history, the constitution, the declaration of independence, American and English literature, etc. The only things kids learn now is absolute crap and socialism. Not only that schools have become violent with a lot of racist tension.
    Spending a day in school is like spending a day in jail. You never know if your kid is going to come home intact. My son has had one really bad racist incident this year and it was disgusting the way the administration handled it.
    I tried to no avail to get my last two kids in parochial school but the tuition tripled in ten years where I live going from $5,000 to $15,000.
    Also my younger daughter took a pre-test to get in only to be told she was number 400 on the waiting list. I wish there was a way we conservatives could have our own schools but that would be a dream in the future.

  • slrassoc

    The schools are used as baby sitters while mom works, nothing more. If people would pull their kids out of the public schools, they would collapse within 3 months.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1729911816 David McCall

    Unfortunately, this is becoming more the rule than the exception. The common mistake that I see made is that the teachers get the blame and all to often it is misplaced. Most of the teachers I know are no happier with the situation than the parents who wind up supporting their children because their education was of such poor quality that the kids can not even get a job flipping burgers. The lack of local control and involvement in the educational system is a major problem and it is only getting worse as the nanny state continues to over reach and control everything that is said or done in the classroom.

    • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

      However, if anyone has more blame than the other, it's parents more than teachers. The question to ask is: Why was it of such poor quality?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH2U7JWAGGFEMPDCDAAPUIC6QU Hilton

    Sounds like another reason to rid ourselves of the Dept of Ed and return control of our schools to the local level. Don't even get me started on the Administrator salaries.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000101338118 Christy Bartholomew

    Amen! I homeschooled both of my children and I highly recommend it to every parent I meet. They are better educated, more socially adept and have a solid foundation in biblical principles and morals.

    It is a parents responsibility to see that their children are raised as decent and moral individuals, even if you send them to public school, you MUST oversee their education every step of the way. If you are not going to do that, then you are NOT doing your job as a parent.

    • dj

      You are absolutely correct, but there are single parents and parents with smaller incomes that require that both parents work, so that, while homeschooling can be done by ANY parent, not EVERY parent is in a position to do that, and the commitment level required is extremely high. I don't know if you pulled your kids out of public school to homeschool, or homeschooled from the beginning (that's what we've done), but I have found it difficult at times to maintain communication with co-op teachers that my kids have taken classes from (if you have a teenage boy, you may understand that sometimes they don't write down every assignment and then forget to do the homework). It required a great deal of time and effort to make sure I knew about assignments and that they got completed. I only work part time for our church with very flexible hours, but I can imagine that parents working full-time, who may also have elderly parents, children with health challenges, etc. might find it difficult to stay in contact with every teacher their children have and monitor the many homework assignments they have, AND have a family life. I think we need to give parents a break, give them back some of the authority our society has taken from them, and look at redesigning the system to be more family-friendly. But before that can happen, public school teachers and administrators have to have an attitude of respect for parents and family needs, and stop treating parents as if they are too stupid to know what's best for their kids.

  • flaphil

    Public schools have become expensive babysitters. Blame the parents, but blame the teachers for their teaching. They want to interject political rhetoric into most subjects. Some of these teachers have no business teaching subject matter that they are not proficient on either. Many parents are missing because they'd rather be working than assume responsibility for their little tyke. Many parents now are the products of the same teachers teaching now, they're lost in confusion. Many just let their kids run, so called, homes. My wife and I raised four kids, we arranged our work to help or kids even though it was inconvenient to us. Not the schools or kids. They're all well educated with good jobs and happy. None have ever been in trouble with the law either. Teachers on here, don't give me bunk, parents either. Look in the mirror first and say you're doing your jobs. No one else should have to do it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

      If the schools did not have to babysit, however, the teachers could get to the task of hand of teaching...and then you could actually separate the cream from the dregs.

  • TPM

    Here's the problem I have with the public school system ...
    IF the school systems really cared about discipline and creating a learning environment (more) free from disruptive behavior, they would take serious issue with it. Look how quick they were (in Wisconsin) to band together, when their pocket books were threatened ...
    Today's teachers and school districts are content to teach NEA promoted social engineering subjects / topics. This comes at the expense of reading, writing & arithmatic. I don't want my kids to be guinea pigs for some progressive's programs. Just prep the kids to succeed in life. Stress the 3 R's and keep your social agendas to yourself.
    Our Columbus, OH school district was just caught with their hand in the cookie jar. They've been cooking the attendance records and competency testing results, to gain additional federal monies. We already knew it was a bad district. Turns out, it was much worse. Seems to me that these inner city districts are still content to just pass these kids along, falsely certifying their students competency.
    IF teachers and districts REALLY cared about education, they'd show a little integrity and they'd refuse to falsify attendance records & test results. They would not pass a kid who in fact failed a subject, just to move him/her along.
    Busing was a failed experiment in social engineering. It destroyed many a public school system. Education should be about teaching kids ... period. It should be controlled at the local level. I don't want some gay education czar telling my school district what they're going to teach my kids. get politics out of the classroom and keep them out.
    Today's public schools need a new bumper sticker ... "If your high school graduate can't read, thank a teacher & the NEA"

  • Blair

    When I was in school, between 1974 and 1980, I had some great teachers. Mr. Knox, Mr. Brown, and Mr.
    Hayes, weren't flaming liberals. Mr. Brown was a former lieutenant colonel in the United States Air Force.
    I wouldn't call him a flaming liberal.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    The federal courts have turned public education over to the dumbest, laziest and most ignorant race in the history of mankind. Most of the latter were incapable of absorbing a high school education, and few are capable of imparting an education of any kind to anybody...

  • JennieWalsh

    The international bankster-gangsters/power-elite/secret servants of Satan/global organized crime syndicate are determined to dumb down and indoctrinate into communism/socialism/liberalism/Satanism America's children. They plan to make them into obedient slaves to their system of a one world Satanic totalitarian military police-state dictatorship. See: Yuri Bezminov KGB U Tube The conspirators use "liberals" to achieve their goals of power and control. The conspirators refer to the "liberals" as "useful idiots". After the want to be conspirators gain their desired power and control, they plan to shoot all the "useful idiots" before they wake up and realize that they have been deceived.

  • stevor

    I just retired after teaching 26 years of middle school and then high school in California. Yes, kids get away with a lot more than they used to because PARENTS don't raise their kids right. Too many kids get away with bad behavior at home so schools would have too many kids at the principal's office or expelled if all the bad behavior were dealt with.
    What would REALLY help if they had Buses go by the schools about 10:00 each day and all the kids who wouldn't cooperate were hauled off to be on a work detail, sweeping streets or picking up garbage. It was up to the kids (or maybe up to the parents to START to become a REAL PARENT) to decide if they wanted an education or to be manual laborers for the rest of their lives.

  • Kylene Gould

    I will never support teachers unions or public schools, in Independence Missouri teachers let my abusive neo-nazi ex-husband (while he was NOT the custodial parent) withdraw my daughter from school. They knew he was an abuser, they knew he was not the custodial parent, because I had to provide that information to the school (restraining orders, court orders etc....) They also knowing he did not live in that school district let him put my daughter in another school in their district to hide her from me. Knowing they were breaking the law!!!!! They refused to tell me where she was at, until LAW enforcement officers in a different state called and made them aware (they already knew) they were breaking the law. See I was the religious parent, I did not pander to the teachers union, like he does. It does not matter he is a rapist, a pedophile, a sadistic abuser as long as he is a union panderer!!! Oh and the school DID know all about him and they still helped him!!!!!!

  • Uncle Dean

    Labor Unions....raise their Nasty Heads Again

  • exshuttleguy

    When I was in a Jr. High school in the early fifties, I had a war hero that taught wood working and drafting. He was well respected by all of his classes. It was a badge of honor to get a wack from his paddle, but you never wanted to be so bad as to receive two wacks.

  • Keith Bell

    Amen! I agree Some of my best friends are black. But even they will agree that there are a lot of blacks sitting around and doing nothing while taking advantage of being black by yelling "Discrimination!" Of course there are a lot of whites taking advantage of the system too. Democrates believe every situation can be solved by handing out money.

  • blackyb

    All people should take their children out of public schools. The schools and their educational process is a disgrace and not fit for our children to be under. Send your children to educational facilities where they can learn life's skills and be prepared to live in this world. Do not allow your children to be indoctrinated and have the filth of pediphiles and the learnings of sex etc., around them. This is confusing to them. They are being assaulted by every vile means in these schools and are acting out from not being taught respect for God, family and country at home and in schools. We do not need public schools if this is what they offer. keep your child safe and keep them out of public educations.

  • Jose

    Just wondering, How does this fall off of confidence coincide with the establishment of the federal Education Department??

  • jerry1944

    Schools started going down when the took GOD out and stopped with the spanking are line writeing which every was the teachers choice. Then they gave kids rights in school. I dont think its all the teachers but maybe who we elect to school boards than dont help the teachers. I know the teachers unions dont help eather with lib teachers but i think we put lib school board members with that and now we have a REAL problem... When my child was young the came up with the NEW math so that didnt help me help him. My way wasnt what the teacher wanted but it still works for me today

    • nmleon

      What many people (including many teachers) don't realize is that teachers unions finance school board member campaigns all the time. For just a few thousand dollars they can buy an awful lot of yard signs and flyers.
      Great strategy. You pay to get the people you will be negotiating with elected. It's the main argument in my mind against public employee union collective bargaining.

  • StandsWithTruth

    What do you expect when the recommended reading by the NEA is a book written by Saul Alinsky. And who does the author recognize as a perfect model, "Satan". So, again, what do you expect from the NEA?

  • jerry1944

    You do have a good point n m leon. The unions do there best to get school board members in that will do there biding. But we need to be more resposible about even little elections Now when you talk about restoreing GOD in school its which one are do we want a muslummm false god in our school the libs have really messed up the school system. God and expeltion would be a start i think but that we will never get so guess we have to start with the school board and what they put in our schools for books

  • softball53girl

    I am a product of school in the 60s and 70s and received a good education - my son is a child of the 80s and when I saw what really happened at school, I put him in private christian education, where he learned discipline, how to read and write efectively and do math...I also home schooled him during the middle school years to allow some freedom in curriculum for both of us - he then went back to private christian and then on to charter school - he is well rounded and has a thirst for learning that most of his peers do not have...

  • jerry1944

    It comes down to what teacher teach. Some of it is how they teach but what they teach is more like it and The dear school board. But the board is still reuglated but the goverment that took GOD out of school. Where there is no GOD eviel exest

  • dee

    Blame Bush

  • jerry1944

    Have you every knowed a teacher that doesnt say its not the teachers are the unions fault. But that deas support what looks like is being said in here. But if we didnt elect who the teachers unions want to the school board that mite just change

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000381452745 Robert Wheatley

    Schools used to have to go along with the stated demands of parents and common sense. Today, unions run the Government (not Public) Schools. I was told by the Principle of our local Junior High School that when my kids were on school property, my kids were not mine, but belonged to the school.

  • nanblan

    The author is missing one other large piece of the puzzle that schools had back in the 1960s and 1970s but don't have today: GOD!