'President Obama, It’s Not Your Money!'

President Obama has decreed that he is going to tax people who make over $250,000 at a higher rate than people making less, and millions of people are OK with it. How did we get to the place when elected officials can tax American citizens at disproportionate rates to pay for debt that was never constitutionally authorized and programs that have no constitutional validity?

Politicians – Democrats and Republicans alike– know that there are fewer high wage earners than lower and middle income earners. The same is true of employers and employees. An employer gets one vote but his or her employees can cancel his vote many times over. It’s no wonder that some of earliest our founders were fearful of an unbridled democracy. John Winthrop (1590–1657) declared democracy to be “the meanest and worst of all forms of government.”1 John Cotton (1585–1652) wrote in 1636: “Democracy, I do not conceive that ever God did ordain as a fit government either for church or commonwealth. If the people be governors, who shall be governed?”2 In the Federalist Papers (No. 10), James Madison (1751–1836) wrote that democracies are “spectacles of turbulence and contention.” Pure democracies are “incompatible with personal security or the rights of property. . . . In general [they] have been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”3

Democracy as it relates to taxing policy has been described as two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch.

The following is attributed to historian Alexander Fraser Tytler (or Tyler) (1747–1813). While I have not been able to find it in any of his writings, whoever wrote it understood where we are as a nation today:

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

We are a nation where a majority of voters have discovered that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury, that is, from productive tax payers by putting people in power that will do their bidding. Fifty percent of the voting population doesn’t pay a penny in federal income taxes. Why would they ever vote for a president, congressman, or senator who wants to cut taxes and spending?

Who benefits by the higher tax? The people who vote for the higher tax believe they will. Small business owners are the ones who will pay the higher tax. If they are taxed more, they can’t hire more people, invest in new equipment, and advertise for new business. The wolves end up devouring all the sheep like the countryman who killed the goose that laid golden eggs. “As he grew rich he grew greedy; and thinking to get all the gold the goose could give, he killed it and opened it only to find nothing.”

  1. Quoted in A. Marvyn Davies, Foundation of American Freedom: Calvinism in the Development of Democratic Thought and Action (Nashville, TN: Abingdon Press, 1955), 11. []
  2. Letter to Lord Say and Seal, quoted by Perry Miller and Thomas H. Johnson, eds., The Puritans: A Sourcebook of Their Writings, 2 vols. (New York: Harper and Row, [1938) 1963), 1:209-10. []
  3. Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay, The Federalist, Jacob E. Cooke, ed. (Middletown, CT: Wesleyan University Press, 1961), 61. []



  • Screeminmeeme

    Margaret Thatcher........"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's

    Obama has yet to learn this. Unfortunately, he thinks there's no problem with socialism.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cummins/531833267 John Cummins

      keynesians, hmmm it's similar to kenyans....hmmmm, simply print more money...

      • duif100

        Obama; the olnly president for whom every failure is a success!

    • NM Leon

      Oh, I think he's learned it very well. He's also learned this:
      "...the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."
      And he's learned that whoever is in charge during the collapse becomes the dictator.
      Get ready to hail The One Who Is The One, as our beloved Supreme Leader.

      • MontieR

        All hail oblunder with a hail of lead.

  • CARLjr

    There is a small expatriation tax if you want to join your offshore accounts.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

    First of all I have never worked for some one who is poor. If he/she is successful and wealthy they make good decisions in their business life. They will also know to pay those who make the money for them a good and reasonable living. This article is exceptionally well written and I would add just one thing in John Stuart Mill the tyranny of the majority and the minority giving good government a thin line to walk in order to be good for everyone. In essence time to arm the sheep.

    • Kay

      Many businesses went bankrupt even way back when your job creator W was around. So I guess they became poor. And many small businesses in right to work states do not even have to pay minimum wage. If you even make minimum wage and work as much as they will let you like 40 hours a week, your income for a family of four is below poverty level. Many people only make minimum wage. $13,920 (no time off, vacation) is just dandy. So you must be one of the lucky ones. Let them eat cake.

      • inspcowboy

        Yes you are correct there are no guarantees in life but it is against the law for any business to pay less than min wage no matter what state you live in Union or RTW and yes there are people who have to work two or three jobs to make ends meet. such as the lot in life but mind you if there was no min wage then the wages would go up because people would dig ditches for the man who paid the most and that would create competition, IMHO the min wage has kept the wages low over the last 50 years and such is Government regulations and the law of unintended consequences!

      • duif100

        Don't talk about things you do not know anything about.
        The minimum wage is set by the Federal Law, not state law. No business in any state can pay below minimum wage.
        It is not very smart to have 2 children while you are earning minimum wages unless you are preparing to go on the welfare rolls..In that case like a good liberal have a few more and your monthly payments will increase.
        For most people minimum wage is the starting point of ther careers. This of course is changing under Obama with this extra long period of high unemployment..

      • Dosmo

        Kay- Right- to- work laws don't do away with minimum wage. The only give workers the freedom to belong to a union or not! As they choose!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4ENB63ODGUC7YAF5EKZLEAWIAE Mary

    Dick Morris: Obama's Second Term Tax Plans:


  • Doodlebug

    Then let those millions of people just make a donation! Including the arrogant, lying, dummicrat donkey who can't stop spending. What did they say that that increase in taxes would pay to keep Washington running for a mere 8 days. STOP THE SPENDING AND GET THIS DUMMICRAT DONKEY OUT OF THE WH!!

  • EdinNola

    This man is not the legitimate President of the United States of America. Everything he is doing is illegal. OMG - Obama Must Go

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cummins/531833267 John Cummins

      Finally, some real sense here. You are correct, the usurper-in-chief should be physically escorted out of office...

    • duif100

      Obama; the olnly president for whom every failure is a success!

  • J Moore

    I have been saying for 30 years that people on welfare, food stamps, and medicaid must not be allowed to vote since they are "wards of the state". If this change is not instituted soon, bye-bye America. I once offerred this advice on C-SPAN and they censored me out of the program!! So much for their unbaised programming.

    • joe m

      I agree

    • rank

      AMEN Brother Amen!

    • Geo

      If this happened, only the mega rich or the mega stupid would ever vote democrat.

      • pappap42

        That is who is voting now.

    • May

      First you have to get ridmofmthose pesky laws passed back by that Commie LBj. It does something like protect voters rights. Yea so maybe your boy Mitt will make this a big time thing right after he repeals the ACA. I've suggested Paupers prisons before a d that's another alternative. Why not jump on that band wagon.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cummins/531833267 John Cummins

      and, should you not also classify corporate welfare "too big to fail" "businesses" as "wards of the state"? if not, why not?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Frykman/100000835354735 John Frykman

        I don't believe businesses actually are entitled to vote as they are not citizens. Just how would a business cast a vote?

        • retiredsgmusarmy

          By providing big bucks to whomever might be running for public office. Once the feds bail out a company, that company or its owners/stockholders should not be allowed to contribute any monies to a candidate running for office at the city, county, state or on the federal level.

        • Dosmo

          But retiredsgmusarmy-- Don't you know that the majority of stockholders in all major companies are just middle-class citizens trying to invest wisely? I'm a senior citizen, income barely over the poverty line, but I have held stock for years....that's why I'm not "under" the poverty level. I contribute $10 sometimes to one candidate or the other. Why punish small stockholders for what Government does?
          Why does the Government have to "bail out" businesses anyway? Why not let them take bankurpsy and reorganize. The big airlines have all had to do it at one time or another. Most of the American public didn't know it nor feel any major effects.

        • retiredsgmusarmy

          I do agree with you, I'm just saying that once a company has been bailed out, it should then become policitally neutural and not allowed to support anyone who is running for public office. That smacks of cronyism. Understand, I am only putting forth my own personal opinon.

        • MontieR

          I believe you are wrong, simply because NOBODY is to big to fail. ANY bailout is nothing but extortion of taxes to prop up a FAILED business idea.

        • stan in texas

          There should be NO BAILOUTS. They are unconstitutional and immoral. When congress has the power to take taxes collected from working people and give it to private companies, we have entered into a different form of government,............it is called socialism or fascism.

        • http://www.facebook.com/Geondal Eun-hye Jung

          only wish I could click the like button a few more times for this comment....^^

        • duif100

          A business is esentially a fictious person and has just about the same rights as a person.They might even have the right to vote if some decent lawyer made an issue out of this.
          Everything is possible; we have a fictious person as president.who has never proven that he legally even exists.

        • larrylunts

          And if a business knowingly produced a dangerous product (like in the infamous Ford Pinto case, where Ford knew of a dangerous defect, but decided it would be cheaper to pay off the injured customers rather that to fix the defect), could the business be prosecuted and imprisoned; or executed, for murder? How would that work?

          And could a corporation (at least 35 years old and naturally "born," or incorporated, in the United States, run for President?

        • NM Leon

          The corporation that knowingly made a dangerous product could be put in receivership, and the employees with knowledge of the product could be sued, prosecuted, imprisoned, etc.
          A corporation is a legal entity (person), but is not a citizen. Without citizenship, it could not run for anything.

        • duif100

          We have now a president who has never produced a birth certificate or proven in any other way that he is elligible to be president.
          Obama has technically not even proven that he was legally born anywhere or even exists.
          This non-existing thing/object or whatever else
          you like to call it is now president of the US.
          So far Obama has only fought legal battles to prevent disclosure of his records and has not proven anything.

          For a business there is a record of its creation (birth) and a business has the same rights as a person.
          To me it looks like a business has a lot more right to run for president than Obama does.
          If Obama can run with no proof of elligibility so can a business.

        • http://www.facebook.com/Geondal Eun-hye Jung

          big businesses don't need to vote they have too much power as is..^^ it is small business that is being treated like Cinderella

      • duif100

        Was GM not a ward of the Fed. Govt.?

        • http://twitter.com/JoanOfSnark Joan Of Snark

          It still is. And, like the bondholders who took the most risk but were set aside in favor of the unions, the taxpayers are probably never going to be paid back in full.

        • http://www.facebook.com/Geondal Eun-hye Jung

          Sadly, American cars continue to make cars that the majority of the world do not find practical ... In other words, while I would kill to own a mustang like the one on the movie transformer... I bough a KIA Hybrid-plug in..^^

        • duif100

          Of course the taxpayers are not going to be paid back.
          It was Obama's bribe to the union for future campagn contributions.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Frykman/100000835354735 John Frykman

      How about the rather radical ideas that (1) you must prove who you are to vote and (2) if you cast a fraudulent vote, you go to jail and (3) you cannot vote unless you are a citizen and have resided where you vote for the previous 90 days.

      • Guest

        Everybody is a citizen from somewhere. You need to be more clear: a US citizen.

        • duif100

          By the way there are people without a country. To enlist in the French Foreign Legion was a way to obtain French citizenship upon completion of service.
          You did not know that we were talking about the USA.?
          I guess we no longer say America either.

        • Bay0Wulf

          Ever since it was approved to label "Made In America" anything that was made in North, Central or South America ... "Made In America" has come to mean nothing.

          Thank you NAFTA & CAFTA

        • noitaint

          have to look for "made in U.S.A.." tags.

        • Bay0Wulf

          Ummm ... It seems there's some sort of "blocker " on the site?

          Ever since it was approved to label "Made In America" anything that was made in North, Central or South America ... "Made In America" has come to mean nothing.

          Thank you NAFTA & CAFTA

        • Carlos

          The Constitution is clear. You must be a citizen of a state first, in order to be a US citizen.

        • USAFVET

          You can be a citizen of a state and still not be a U.S. Citizen, and still not be able to vote.

      • bmg28

        To vote in my state I must show a photo ID

        • duif100

          Not if Holder has his way!

        • Abouna R.

          HUCK FOLDER

        • Heywood Jablome

          FOLD HUCKER

        • dangkids

          What's so ironic is, moron Holder was in the Carolinas making a speech today and wanted everyone who attended to show their ID at the door before coming in! LOL, what a scumbag. Why didn't the traitor ask oblammer where his was??

        • NM Leon

          He did the same today in Houston.

        • duif100

          The right ot vote does not have much value in the eyes of the liberals. Many brave soldiers have died for this right.
          Obviously Holder's own neck is a lot more valueable that the lives of our soldiers.
          I hope that Holder ends up in jail. That is the one thing he deserves.

        • BONCARBO

          The requirement to show I.D. is OK if you are a government official, but the rest of us that want to show I.D. to vote, and yet they call us racists, how's that for the pot calling the kettle black. No pun intended.

        • Heywood Jablome

          Hey, you're just calling a spade a spade!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathleen-Craigie/100000164807155 Kathleen Craigie

          What a total hypocrite he is....but I believe the REAL reason that they are SO against the VOTER ID law is that they want ILLEGALS to be able to vote without anyone looking twice at their fake IDS..... How else will Nobama win, except by CHEATING his way back into the White House....

        • triple t

          thats the way it should be in all 50 states prove who you are and where you have lived for at least 6 mounths

        • http://twitter.com/BradNova Brad Nova

          Corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed.
          Abraham Lincoln, letter to William Elkins, Nov. 21, 1864. (After
          the passage of the debt causing National Bank Act [June 3, 1864]).

        • Rushvillerocket

          Even people who voted in the recently-held Mexico elections had to show, you guessed it, a photo ID!!!!

        • tacamojo

          I thought there was 57 States. lol

        • StGabes

          You know who has 57 states? You got it, the muslims.....

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tara-Jean-Olson/591696061 Tara Jean Olson

          no way!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tara-Jean-Olson/591696061 Tara Jean Olson

          haha! i have never forgotten that, either.

        • Dara

          It's that way in my state too. However, the DVM in Vegas was caught handing out D.L.'s like candy to illegals... the result?

          Dirty Harry Reid STILL heads the Senate.

        • dHb

          same here

        • Belize4Me@gmail

          bmg28: What state are you from, and do you mind taking in another refugee from California?

        • labar

          Belize4Me, I live in L.A. and leaving is almost the only rational thing left to do. Our city council makes Forrest Gump look like Einstein. Our mayor is a lying fool just like Obama.

          It just goes to show you that even a great city, or a great nation cannot survive the leadership of it's fools.

          I stay here because I believe the only way California will ever have a chance to rebound is if we elect a Scott Walker governor and provide him with a workable state legislature, California, used to be an economic powerhouse and a major agriculture producer until the Progressive element of the democrat party took power. They shut off the water flow to the farms that were producing the crops in order to protect a tiny fish called the Delta Smelt.

          Some say they value the fish more than their fellow man. I believe that the fish are foolish if they think that the current government actually cares about them. They too, are nothing more than "useful Idiots" just like Cindy Sheehan, Pat Buchanan, John McCain, or any of the other people who thought that they were being respected by the left rather than just being used for the moment. So I won't cry or feel sorrow for them when they discover the truth.

          But if a mass of people with conservative views would come to California, in 2 or 3 election cycles we could vote the people in who could save this state and actually the whole nation from the abyss.

          Don't throw me a life line, please come jump in, grab a bucket and help save the ship named California. Her known proven economic generating possibilities, when unleashed, can more than provide for herself as well as provide financial support to the nation as a whole.

        • Hopeless

          Very well put. Sometimes the feeling of helplessness is overwhelming. What has happened to this great country in the past 3 1/2 years under Obama and his incompetent thugs? Many times I ask my self if the end to this insanity is really near or is this the eternal damnation we will face for our sins.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000694909083 Lloyd Welch

          I am a truck driver and I used to carry produce from California to the east coast. Now state law will not allow me to idle my truck for air conditioner in 105 degree heat. As far as I am conserned California can keep their fruits and nuts as long as they continue to shoot themselves in the foot by electing morons to govern themselves.

        • labar

          Belize4Me, I live in L.A. and leaving is almost the only rational thing left to do. Our city council makes Forrest Gump look like Einstein. Our mayor is a lying fool just like Obama.

          It just goes to show you that even a great city, or a great nation cannot survive the leadership of it's fools.

          I stay here because I believe the only way California will ever have a chance to rebound is if we elect a Scott Walker governor and provide him with a workable state legislature, California, used to be an economic powerhouse and a major agriculture producer until the Progressive element of the democrat party took power. They shut off the water flow to the farms that were producing the crops in order to protect a tiny fish called the Delta Smelt.

          Some say they value the fish more than their fellow man. I believe that the fish are foolish if they think that the current government actually cares about them. They too, are nothing more than "useful Idiots" just like Cindy Sheehan, Pat Buchanan, John McCain, or any of the other people who thought that they were being respected by the left rather than just being used for the moment. So I won't cry or feel sorrow for them when they discover the truth.

          But if a mass of people with conservative views would come to California, in 2 or 3 election cycles we could vote the people in who could save this state and actually the whole nation from the abyss.

          Don't throw me a life line, please come jump in, grab a bucket and help save the ship named California. Her known proven economic generating possibilities, when unleashed, can more than provide for herself as well as provide financial support to the nation as a whole.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000694909083 Lloyd Welch

          A person must show a photo ID and a voter registration card in my state.

      • http://www.facebook.com/kathy.martinez.351104 Kathy Martinez

        in NorthCcarolina you have to have social security card and some proof of where you live and photo ID and we have had the whole 37 years I have lived here.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jodygodie Joe Davis

          I've lived in NC since 1977 and voted in every election since then. I have never been asked to show any ID. When I have asked poll place workers if they want ID, I have always been told it's unnecessary. Where do you vote, Kathy?

        • Jim in Fla

          Well it certainly is true in Seminole County, Florida (think Zimmerman). I have never seen anyone balk at what is SOP! Honestly don't see what is such a big deal - but is just common sense.

        • mrrzk

          If u are evil and corrupt like our present administration---IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE!!!
          As u say, it is SOP to show ID for just about EVERYTHING.
          Their corruption spills over to the point that they dont see IT or anything

        • flyguy

          In IDAHO after registering, showing you live where you are registered at the polls you need photo ID and sign in. What's wrong with that. Nothing!! It keeps it honest just the way it should be. No dead people showing up. I can't stand that smell, :-)

        • flyguy

          In IDAHO after registering, showing you live where you are registered at the polls you need photo ID and sign in. What's wrong with that. Nothing!! It keeps it honest just the way it should be. No dead people showing up. I can't stand that smell, :-)

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1590072570 Wanda Reeves Kelly

          i have always had to show my ID in fla before i am allowed to vote. never had a problem; always thought it was a great idea...

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000694909083 Lloyd Welch

          I left NC and this was one of the reasons.

        • Carlos

          That's not California law. I've worked in a polling place. But, I like your style, anyway.

        • Ron

          That is the way it should be..I could not go to Mexico, Russia or anywhere else and vote, if I wasn't a resident there.. So, how is it that in some states, you can pull a dead persons name or be an illegal from Mexico or South America, and vote?? That has always been very confusing to me....

        • Stan in Texas

          'So, how is it that in some states, you can pull a dead persons name or be an illegal from Mexico or South America, and vote?? "

        • jjkrjw

          Hooray for North Carolina. They true the vote, and that's the way it should be done in every state.
          In Mexico, you are fingerprinted before you can vote!!! There is much we could learn from Mexico about voting and illegal immigrant laws.

        • NM Leon

          The statuses as of March 2012 of the 50 states regarding the required showing of ID at the polling place are as follows:
          Strict photo ID (voter must show photo ID at polling place): Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Wisconsin. In addition, South Carolina and Texas have strict photo ID laws that must receive, but have not received, approval from the federal Justice Department; pending such approval, they require non-photo ID.
          Photo ID or alternative (voters at polling place must either show photo ID or meet another state-specific requirement, such as answering personal questions correctly or being vouched for by another voter who has voter ID): Alabama, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Louisiana, Michigan and South Dakota.
          Non-photo ID (state-specific list of acceptable forms of polling place ID, including a non-photo form): Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia, Washington.
          No ID required at polling place: all other (19) states.

        • KarenWI

          WI passed voter id under Governor Walker but it was struck down by liberal judges so there is currently NO voter ID in WI

        • flyguy

          Ad Idaho to that photo ID area

        • flyguy

          Ad Idaho to that photo ID area

        • USAFVET

          The thing is, a Social Security Card cannot be used as identification.

      • Charlene Holzhouser

        John, it is not perfect, but to reside in the same place for 90 days is the best that I know of.

      • duif100

        How about a totally new concept:
        You must proof that you are elligible for any public office before you can be a candidate.
        Obama; the olnly president for whom every failure is a success!

      • Larry

        They do that now anyways!

      • Dosmo

        I just read in the newspaper that the primary turn outs were pretty good. The next county, though sparsely populated, had 85 voters over 100 years of age. Some as old as 115! Quite a few seemed to live at one address. Don't dismiss these senior citizens! :)

        • MontieR

          I worked at one of those places for senior citizens. They hardly ever reach the age of 90 little lone the age of 100. eighty five? of them I doubt it. that was rigged.

      • america7

        obacrap cpul;dnt vote because he is illegal and he couldnt even prove he was,

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1590072570 Wanda Reeves Kelly

        those aren't radical! they are common sense!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CYJZH2F3B4GDPK5EN5UOUUVCXY Weez

        I think you should add (4) you must be a net positive taxpayer in order to cast a vote. I don't want non-taxpaying citizens to have any voice in how my tax dollars are spent. If you get more out of the government than you put in, then you're not a taxpayer as far as I'm concerned.

        • flyguy

          I don't quite agree with you. I've worked for 65 years and am now retired and I think that that still gives me a right to vote even though my income is not enough to pay taxes anymore. I still care how this country goes. Just because they took the SS money and now $500 bil. from medicare doesn't disenfranchise me from voting. I think it stinks that they took that money I put in there all my life.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CYJZH2F3B4GDPK5EN5UOUUVCXY Weez

          You have a point. We could amend that so that if you were a net positive taxpayer up until the time of your retirement, then you could vote all through your retirement years. It'll never happen though, so it doesn't really matter one way or the other.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TDSLCPZIADLPWE4SFOZNRWV3OE Mike Tanco

        How about the radical idea that you mst have a legal birth certificate to be eligible to run for President, or have a legal SS# from the state in which you were born. Ojerko can't produce either one. He is a fraud. Mike Tanco

      • jjkrjw

        And if you're a convicted felon, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. Instead, obama courts felons' votes.

        • JPM

          Birds of a feather.

        • larrylunts

          Let's say that you're a convicted felon, but new DNA evidence proves conclusively, 20 years later, that you are innocent. You've missed five election cycles. Should you get five extra votes in the next election?

      • Bay0Wulf

        Personally, I believe that you should have to prove that you either worked in the past 365 days for at least 10% of the time, are legitimately retired, honestly on Disability, are legitimately a student in good standing, are the spouse of someone who has worked at least 20% of the past 365 days or ... have paid taxes sufficient to prove that you are not living off of the common weal.

        Oh ... and yes, you should be required to provide positive ID

      • JPM

        Sounds Good!!!

      • TexasOlTimer

        ObamaCare (now ObamaTax) REQUIRES that each person have a Government Issued ID. So to see a doctor, we'll have to have that government issued ID card. That doesn't dis-enfranchise anyone, right? However, to have a state issued ID card (either a driver's license or one that the state will issue FREE) to vote does dis-enfranchise the minority. Is this an oxymoron (or just moronic?) or is it that the liberals/Progressives say what they want based on getting what they want. In other words, they are always for something before they're against it if it suits their purpose.

      • http://www.facebook.com/brian.gunderson.9 Brian Gunderson

        then how come obummer got all those DEAD votes???

        • 1ofthemany

          Ad do not forget the doggies dead or alive that voted also

      • budman

        The Democrats and the NAACP will always oppose the ID and residence requirement to vote because they use illegal immigrants, felons, students voting as many as eight times where there is no requirement to prove who you are. If you checked their pockets, you would probably find they have a list of names they use at different polling places.
        I do not know how many times I have read recently that the illegal vote is very small, This is a blatant lie by the media. For example, we know that in California alone, there were over one million illegal immigrants who voted for Clinton. The recent reelection of Harry Reid in Nevada was through illegal immigrants voting for him and he even bragged about it. The election in Minnesota where Franken won and there were more Democrats voting in one country than registered voters. Amazing isn't it. Reid also used the union to rig the voting machines where every vote cast was a vote for him until they caught it and quite likely those votes were not thrown out. We had convicted felons in prison voting for Obama here in Florida. Fortunately, these were thrown out but we still have Canadians thinking they have a right to vote in our election and snowbirds who voted in their home state and in Florida as well and of course, they are voting for the Democrats.
        If the current head of the Department of Justice is so concerned about voter rights, why hasn't he investigated both the vote in Minnesota and.Nevada because both clearly won by fraudulent means. Holder just wants to keep the illegal vote in place, otherwise, the Democrats are done.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tara-Jean-Olson/591696061 Tara Jean Olson

        90 days? you are too kind!

    • Observant_One

      C-SPAN has its own agenda.

    • exshuttleguy

      Forty years ago I was laid-off as an electronics tech. We had three small children at that time, and so we started getting food stamps. At that time we received little books of actual stamps. I was so embarrassed that I took every job that came along to get off the food stamps. Today they have what appear to be, credit cards, so that the users will not be embarrassed. I had a friend that told me that I was a fool for not taking sick days weather or not I was sick. That same friend, at age 72, took a volentary lay-off so that he could collect unemplyment pay. I retired at age 73 on what was a volentary lay-off. Everyone was suggesting that I should do as my friend had done but that seemed like an immoral act to me.

      • winki

        Thank you for your honesty, integrity, and hard work. Nowdays there's no shame in being on welfare. It's like living with someone outside of marriage or having an illegitimate baby. There's no accountability. It's now "accepted".

        • valentino

          It all started when the libs took prayer out of the schools.

      • http://twitter.com/JoanOfSnark Joan Of Snark

        There is nothing shameful in getting a little help when hard times come. But that help should not come from the federal government, nor should it be a permanent way of life - for generation after generation (enter into the record the City of Detroit, among others). And now it's not only help with food and medical care, but also cell phones (paid for through everyone's else's landline or cell phone bill).

      • valentino

        What you have is ethics and morals which is getting to be a very rare characteristic. I'm with you!

      • Ray

        You are what is known as an American. The idea of working for your livelyhood & family. There's been a big turnaround in this Country in the last hundred yrs & we're now seeing the 3rd world attitudes infiltrating every State of the Union! When some people say that we're supposed to help the poor it makes me cringe anymore, because I know what they're really saying is to let people mooch off the (bullcrap) system!!! I pay 10% tithing, because the Lord tells us to, that it will help the poor& our Church helps the families that are in need, when they are in need. To acquire this help, the family will do works that are needed--at the Church or someone needing care, etc, etc. Helping with work! Work is the food of the soul & that's where morals get fed the good food! God bless the moral humans.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jerry-Ray-Johnson/1649509967 Jerry Ray Johnson

      but the libs need their votes to stay in office


      J Moore, I had made that same proposal and took it a step further. I suggested the 15th Amendment be amended to read; "Section 1. The right of the citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State, 'provided the citizen have a full knowledge of the U.S. Constitution, The Declaration of Independence, and American history.'
      I don't believe the above request to be unreasonable since these are subjects that are taught in American schools. Or rather; used to be taught in public schools. If the citizen is ignorant of the above subject, he or she will not be entitled to vote. And so J Moore, I am in total agreement with you.
      USAF (RET)

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roger-Meyer/1785162356 Roger Meyer

        The subjects you suggest are EXACTLY what a LEGAL immigrant must know in order to obtain US Citizenship.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Geondal Eun-hye Jung

        While, I can see your point I think you are going a little far with knowing American History........^^ most American coming out of public schools don't even know where Canada is.....^____^

      • larrylunts

        By "full knowledge," does that mean the I must have the entire text of those documents committed to memory? Do I have to have the name of Millard Fillmore's Secretary of Commerce on the tip of my tongue, or lose my right to vote? Do I need to know where George Washington was at any given moment in time? Do I need to be familiar with troop movements during Shay's rebellion?

        • MontieR

          No larynuts it means you have to grasp the ideal of what it is to be an America FIRST and foremos,t tho you probably don't understand what that means.

    • Mike6

      I once offered advice at Toastmasters that Obama was a marxist and I was told to get out and never to come back. I was so shocked that I just left.
      Perhaps I should have told them that Obama hates women as much as Lenin and Stalin hated women and that is why he married Moochele.

    • nan 1

      I see we have 3 (so far) liberals on welfare, food stamps, govt handouts, etc that didn't like what you said J Moore. I agree with you 100% that the deadbeats that pay NO taxes & on the govt dole should NOT be allowed to vote.

    • fortheloveofamerica

      I completely disagree with you,you can not insist on taking away someone's right to vote just because you say their on "medicare,welfare,food stamps"This sounds like Obama's policies and communism.Just because you maybe don't want certain people maybe voting I guess,you have no right to legilate that they can't vote,you will be cutting a big number of citizen out of their vote,but that probly what liberials want to make their side win,by cutting others right to vote away,they don't want Florida to cut out the dead voters but the illegal aliens we need to give them their right to vote,when they are not citizens.I despise this double standard that some live by. Its a very wasped way to think.I question some of these people "love of country" I think they the liberials truely hate American,and want it to be a communist country.


      Of course they censored you out, they are a liberal station just like MSNBC, CNN, CURRENT, ABC, CBS, AND NBC.

    • http://www.facebook.com/brian.gunderson.9 Brian Gunderson

      i agree with you wholeheartedly and i also agree with voter ID and if you are new to our nation sit out untill you learn what our nation is all about

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YTNWLVQHFXRNROQ5CQJGSAZLN4 Janet

      I totally agree. I expressed my opinion to someone one time and I was told they should be able to vote, I feel that they contribute nothing to society and are given everything free. There may be some people who do not abuse the system but most of them do. It appears the grandparents, parents, and the young generation have abused it and I can't understand how the Social Worker can be so naive. I guess the only reason would be they would be out of a job.

    • Heywood Jablome

      Why not require a recent DNA sample; tested, signed, and notarized by your state's governor; along with a video record of all your movements from the moment the DNA was taken to the time you appear at the poll to vote? That should remove all doubt!

  • http://www.facebook.com/dan.virgil.79 Dan Virgil

    we are not a democracy, we are a republic learn the difference before posting inane articles

    • FireMall

      As per the Founding documents, Yes we are "Supposed" to be a Republic.

      I see very little in today's events that equates to Republic and more saying Democracy aka Covert Socialism. .

    • Charlie

      I think the main point was to underline what happens when countries behave like democracies and why they don't work, which is the reason we were founded as a democratic republic- leaders elected by the people without the dangers of mob rule.

      The problem is that concept has faded away over the last 100 or so years.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cummins/531833267 John Cummins

        or maybe 200...remember, Patrick Henry smelled a rat...

    • Rachel

      Yes, we are a Republic but we act like a Democracy and that is what the media and politicians have been telling us for years because you tell a lie long enough look what happens.

    • Crashaxe

      Nope sorry Dan America is a Democracy,

      • Bob

        Our government is not designed as a democracy. It is designed as a constitutional republic. the government and the media have been pushing it toward becoming a democracy and that is one of the things destroying this country.

        After the constitutional convention, one of the founding fathers was asked, "What kind of government have you given us?". The response was, " A republic, if you can keep it."

        We have failed to keep it.

      • duif100

        It is a republic!

    • mark Mudder

      technically we're a republic, an indirect democracy, I think you missed the point of the article as*wipe. it's about the "takers" like you, voting for reps. that feed off the "makers' like me and give to the welfare class, again you. Kabesh Einstein?

      • Asswipe

        Kabesh? What is that? Some kind of Jewish food?

    • CJH

      YES! Exactly right. A democracy is run by majority, a republic by laws. We've GOT to get the socialist/communist/wants-to-be-king OUT of our WH

  • bill stanley

    Don't tell Michelle Obama it's not their money, she'll beat up on Barrack. OH WAIT! Never mind... HEY MICHELLE, IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY, GIRL!!

  • River Ratt

    The pres. is acting like a kid with his 1st car, or a drunk getting locked in a brewery. He has
    no intention of stopping the spending and the race baiting.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cummins/531833267 John Cummins

      what pres? the usurper?

      • duif100

        Obama.who is a fictious person and is now president.but who has never proven that he legally even exists.
        How can a non-existent person run for office?

        • http://twitter.com/JoanOfSnark Joan Of Snark

          BO is a composite, not fiction.

        • Ky12

          Mayby when Obummer has taken our country down we will know all about him, I am sure this moron will be bragging.

  • Chuck

    He promised no new taxes on people making less than $250,000 per year, yet he passes a tax law on health care that is paid for by mostly people who make lerss than $150,000 per year and a majority of those are the young and the elderly! The lies of this man are without end. VOTE for Romney and enjoy a real tax CUT when ObamaTax is repealed.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cummins/531833267 John Cummins

      you are living in la-la land if you think RomneyCare will vote against ObamaCare, you simply get a Robamanation, Chuck...wake up and vote Ron Paul...

      • LJenn

        If Romney and Obummer are on the ticket, a vote for anyone else will be a wasted vote. You might as well vote for Obummer.. We need to come together and vote for Romney and get him in the White House.

        • tionico

          if that many people are so stupid or greedy to vote Romney just to dump an illegal usurper, then we DESERVE another four years of the kinyun. WHY will not WE THE PEOPLE stand up and DEMAND our political masters find some real candidates to stand for office.. the kind that will repeal Obamacare, prosecute Holder and Company, end our stupid world-policeman "wars" (illegal because not declared as wars by Congress), and end the insane unconstitutioinal alphabet soup federal "agencies" tying knots around our economy and production... like EPA, Ag, Ed, DEA, FDA......

          we aren't mad enough yet. And NO candidatge will ever get MY vote unless that candidate demonstrates to me he WILL uphold the COnstitution as the supreme law of the land....... (hint: Robama and Omney will not...). I have taken a personal oath to protect, defend, and uphold our Constitution... that means NOT voting for a candidate who is not reasonably certain to do the same.

          TELL your republican party hacks to field a candidate worthy of our vote....and stop giving us more of the same old rot. Nothing will change until we MAKE the ruling elite change it. And voting for their tired old hacks won't change a thing.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OC6SKJLQDZEY674X7VRYBWH6AI Tom

          We need to Fire Obama at the ballot box but first, we must fire the self-promoting, so-called ruling elite at the Republican National Convention.

        • America 1

          So... you're giving Obummer 4 more years by NOT voting for his opponent?!?

      • john.glenn

        Ron Paul is a good person, if you vote for him, it is a waste thou as he has no chance of winning and it just takes a vote from someone who wants our country to prosper. Vote Mitt Romney, at least your vote wont be thrown away.

      • duif100

        According to the polls Ron Paul cannot win and it will be a wasted vote.
        I like Ron Paul's domestic policies.
        Goal number one is to get Obama out.
        I will vote for the canidate who runs against Obama and I project will get the most votes. Anybody (Even Carter) is better than Obama.
        Obama; the olnly president for whom every failure is a success!

        • CARLjr

          The polls that the Romney team sponsored, or the polls that the Obama team sponsored? Or were they polls that the MSM put together? These polls are BS. They are designed to make it look like a close race - no matter what. If it's close - they get more donations. If it's close - they run more ads. We are talking millions of dollars.
          The whole reason Ron Paul was blacklisted by the media is because they knew he would not play along - he was not going to run the traditional campaign and spend all that money on political ads when all he was trying to do was collect delegates.

      • http://twitter.com/JoanOfSnark Joan Of Snark

        Romney has made it clear he understands the difference between a sovereign state doing something vs. the federal government doing it. If we work hard and send Constitutional conservatives to warm seats in Congress, Mitt will go along with whatever appropriate, common sense and Constitutional-based corrections they pass.

      • MontieR

        I learned my lesson by voting my conscience, Ross Pero. I completely back Ron Paul. The problem is I understand he doesn't have the chance of a snowball in hell of being elected. IF we do NOT remove Oblamo we have No America left. Romney it is.

  • nightlady13

    You should have to show a paid tax bill, along with your picture ID to vote! You should not be able to vote on taxes, or policies that create taxes, that you don't pay!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cummins/531833267 John Cummins

      well u certainly should OWN land to vote...

    • Bob

      Let abolish the IRS and get rid of federal tax bills all together. The country ran fine for a long time without a federal income tax.

  • samtman

    The one perceters are growing at the rate of 7% per year, while the rest (99%) is loosing 3%per year in income that is ripped off by the one percenters. Not fair.

    • Bama59

      So your solution to that perceived injustice is? Let me guess, you want the 1% to pay higher taxes so that it can be passed on to you, the down trodden, right?

      • samtman

        I paid 22% last year. ASk what you can do for your country and poor bastards who are dying in Asia.

        • Bama59

          So what's your point in your first comment? What would you suggest that we do to make life "Fair" ?

        • dosmo

          yadontwannano- yes, loans are negotiable and when you get a loan from a banker (private, not government) you pay interest, that's for the priviledge of borrowing...otherwise why would anyone lend you money?Of course, everyone should be so good-hearted that they would care more for others. But people are NOT that way, never will be! (No, not even those self-righteous "compassionate" democrats) That is why Capitalism works and Socialism doesn't. Profit... not charity... is a universal motivater. Of course, people may make a profit and give great amounts to charity. Most really wealthy Americans have and still do. Our government could never supply the genuinely needy otherwise. The wealthy, contrary to current popular opinion, do not make money by "stealing" from the poor. No, they create jobs to support working people and their families. Socialism leads to resentment, decreased creativity, motivation, and self respect. We see the fruits of it across Europe and that is what Obama admires!

  • Jim

    America will end as we know it if this socialist is re-elected.

  • Willie Lee

    I can only hope and pray people wake up, stop watching network news, dig on the internet, get vocal and vote based upon record in November.

  • http://www.facebook.com/genergy2011 Kurt Grossman

    Only a people who have the will power to voluntarily sacrifice and place other people's interest ahead of their own can function in a Democracy. Godless people: whether atheists or non-practicing Christians; or any other religion INEVITABLY PLACE THEIR OWN SELFISH INTERESTS FIRST. So now, in the USA, we have liars, adulterers, homosexuals, greedy, and generally immoral people being represented in positions of authority by -- you guessed it: the same kind of people only more devious and clever. The problem with Democracy is that WE elect our masters! For so long now, ignorant people who disregard and minimize the bible and the faith of the people who founded our nation have been vocal and entrenched themselves into the bureaucracy that runs America. Now we cannot get them OUT! Pray that God Almighty: "Creator" written into our founding documents will accept our humble apology and restore this nation to its prior position of "A City On A Hill." President Obama is destined to win this election unless a miracle occurs. Mitt Romney is a MUCH BETTER CHOICE but he is NOT what America needs in the long run. Yes, vote for him!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cummins/531833267 John Cummins

      Just remember these problems start with Government Skrools and years of miseducation...

  • Jerome

    This is absolutely correct and the USA has arrived and nobody in elected office are doing one damned thing to curb it. We have allowed our elected politicians, appointed judges and bureaucrats to Kill The Golden Goose, which in this case, are the Middle Class and Small Business Owners who are the only ones left who actually contribute the Golden Eggs to Feed the Greedy, Non-Working Masses and the Politicians, High Level Bureaucrats and Multi-International Bankers and Corporations receive everything that we strive to produce, and what they cannot loot from the producers, they are borrowing from our enemies who want our collapse. And, the Greedy Non-Workers do not see anything beyond the moment, not realizing that in the not too distant future, the non-producing deadbeats will wind up in work camps and if they refuse to work, in death camps.

  • Bama59

    Keep raising taxes, and promoting welfare, and the rest of us, who still work for a living will eventually give up and go out on our own. By the way, when we reach that point all the moochers will starve because the government will have no money.

  • Mick

    Down with poor people. Back in the good ole days they were called paupers and put In Prison. Why can't you elect Mitt Romney and just put all poor people in those FEMA interment camps Obama has been building. That's a cheap, good use of resources. You could have these people and their families doing work like the old chain gang work, build those roads, paint my house, clean my yard, etc. this is a perfect solution but because everything is run by George Soros we are stuck with illegals from Keyna who have fake degrees from harvard and fat, ugly gay wives. Enough. Put them all in pauper prisons.

    • Bama59

      I'm sure you really believe that. Honestly, there are enough good people in the U.S. that would and do donate to charity causes for the needy. The point is that it's not the federal government's job, or even within their authority, to take from one class of people and give it to another.

    • NM Leon

      They were debtor prisons, not pauper prisons. People who were unable to pay their bills were imprisoned.

      Paupers were often housed in workhouses, the equivalent of today's shelters, except that they were expected to work to pay for their food and shelter.

  • e-momsuckcamelwang

    If you lend someone $20, and never see that person again, it was probably worth it.
    For $20.00 would obuma just LEAVE,,, FOREVER?

  • Sgt. York

    this is just what we need,more Tax so O'vomit and Meeshell can tour the world on the American Freebe credit card. Tax my butt, its JOBS that generate tax money. will they never learn?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chuck-Holmes/100000136441602 Chuck Holmes

    How can they run out of other peoples money(OPM) when they can just print more of it. Either way, WASS(we are so screwed!!!!!!

  • az native

    Boy has he got it all wrong, he thinks this country belongs to him and everything in it......rich people help to build companies, this man does not get how this nation works at all on any level...our money does not belong to the government, it is our money period and this congress and president are way out of line, they don't represent this nation on any level, nor to they hold allegiance to our constitution and founding principles...they need to be given a one way ticket out of dodge....this is unacceptable behavior, where do these people get off, they work for us, not the other way around.....

  • Graywolf12

    The USA is not a democracy, it is a republic. We need to tell and enforce the fact that most of the give away, redistribution of wealth, and social justice programs are illegal. Study Agenda 21 and go to http://www.ICLEI.org to see if your city has joined this UN ploy to further destroy the USA.

  • Pocahantaschild2

    Obama is the Satan's miñon outright. A murderer, a liar and a thief.

  • daveveselenak

    Democracy, that's passe. We are experiencing a Third World Totalitarian Oligarchy, wake the hell up already. The sooner that the nation realizes this, the better our chances of taking it down!

  • Granpa David

    The liberal Democrats do not respect your ownership of your money or anything else. They would gleefully confiscate all money and all property.It is happening right before your eyes. And the speed is accelerating. Obamacare was a biggie, 2700 pages of a take over of your life, your money, your country..

  • yadontwannano

    Obama said the truth : "It's not your money" ...because it is a negocial instrument that a privet banking cartel offers you at ijnterest to do buisiness . In other words , they can do what they want with the money since it is thiers !

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cummins/531833267 John Cummins

      it is very negocial and very privet...thanks for the info

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cummins/531833267 John Cummins

    zer0 is an unqualified usurper, please don't call him POTUS

  • dondh

    How much are you going to contribute through your taxes, ovomit? Probably will find ways to no taxes at all as well as you muslim brothers in your staff and in congress so the rest of us can give a bigger share of our income so you can have several more millions and billions to spend, to have more 14 million dollar vacations, fly big aircraft with nobody on but you and your wife, daughters and maybe a few members of you staff members, have 5 times more servants for you wife that any other former president's wife, spend more money on worthless bill like your odumocare, bring more muslims and illegal latinos into our country at taxpayer's expense and who knows what else you will pull on the American people! Don't you have any common sense? I know you don't give a rat's xxx for America so why don't you just resign and go to Saudia Arabia, Iran, Pakistan or Afghanistan where you belong. Oh yes, Kenya would be a good place for you as well with relatives there! Anyway, we don't need you here in America because you don't have a clue as to how to run a presidency, let alone of the United States!!

  • Anne_PA

    Obama, It’s Not Your Money!’

    How many ways can one say (paraphrase) "It's not your money" before one has to comes right out and says, "It's not your money?"

    About as many ways that Obozo has said (paraphrased) "FROM each according to his ability, TO each according to his need."

    Obozo has been reading (paraphrasing) right out of the Karl Marx Handbook from the time he entered politics.

    When are people going to start realizing that???

    • duif100

      Obama does not give a shlt. He takes it anyways.
      Obama; the olnly president for whom every failure is a success!

  • Charlie

    Well...with all the bills I have, he kinda has a point....:)

    All semi-kidding aside, when will we learn that tax-and-spend doesn't do anything besides create oblivion? Government needs to be reigned in, social programs need to have an orderly transition to private religious and secular charities as much as possible.

    The income tax either needs to be eliminated or a Constitutional amendment to cap it at a 10% flat tax with a personal deduction adjusted for inflation every year needs to be created; I would leave in deductions for continuing education, mortgage deduction, add a deduction for rent similar to Massachusetts (up to $3000/year,) and a 10% corporate tax with deductions for reasonable business expenses allowed. All retirement savings taxes/penalties would be eliminated, essentially turning everything into a Roth IRA.

    While we're at it, we need to do some serious examination of defense spending and cut where appropriate so our military can do the job well without being shorted and at a greater economy. $600 toilet seats and the like need to be rooted out.

    The job-killing regulations need to be re-written or eliminated. The job-killing trade imbalance will be addressed if we do that, and if a foreign country refuses to play fair, then we, as a nation, should retain a right to take peaceful action.

    We can repair this nation- we need the political will to do it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Greta-F-Rich/100000112892541 Greta F. Rich

    That's been one of my favorite commentator's points. . . nothing is stopping those morons who think that they haven't given enough from writing a check to the treasury for the national debt. Yet, people who are for higher taxes, like Soros, fight the treasury over what they are expected to pay. They are liars and hypocrites. They should be told to ante up or shut up.

  • Old Kute

    It is simple. Obama believes that government owns everything and that it distributes it to those who don't have as much as others. He believes that government should control how much anyone has and, if they have more than the government wishes, then the government has the right to take it away and give it to thouse who have less. In short, Obama is a Socialist of the Marxist voriety (we use to call it a Communist). His goal is to make the US a "Union of Sovcialist States of America." He has no regard for the Constitutioin and will, as he has proven, twist and even ignore it, just to get his way. What else can we expect from a Marxist? He is what he is.

  • Anne_PA

    Clearly Obozo thinks he is the arbiter of who made enough money...

    Obama: You've Made Enough Money


  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5LC2Q22MFT62FDSVE4J4CG2XE4 ace

    We need to put a poll tax on and if you do not pay it you can not vote they had that years ago but as the Democrat base and a lot of Republicans could not .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Barry-Levy/1091577549 Barry Levy

    or for voting you have something similar to shares of stock and votes based on how many shares.

    So wealthy people might have more votes because they have a bigger stake in the company, (USA),

    And can we stop the nonsense of the need for people to vote, as if pushing ignorant people to the polls that have no clue what is happening is a good thing.

    • nobody8u2

      one person one vote!!!

  • Sissykins

    Lets get $25 per person from the other 50% who do not pay taxes as they should also pay something. # 1 get rid of this progressive tax system, #2 the Federal Reserve System and
    #3 take back our country that our forefathers envisioned according to our Constituition and Bill of Rights. Lets practice the KISS sydrone...keep it simple stupid!

    • vicki

      obamaTax requires a minimum of $95 per person. From everyone. Not just the current taxpayer. There is an annoying 100% deduction if you buy a "government approved" health insurance plan. Oh wait. Government approved. So the government still gets the money. It is just hidden in pretend private companies.

      • Sissykins

        Can you quote which section of the Obama bill taxes the min of $95 per person please. I feel it very improtant that we back our statements with facts to shove in the faces of the liberals.
        Sissykins - new to this site

  • pappap42

    Please quit saying people making over 250,000. That is for a couple, it is 2000,000 for a single person. If you are going to report get it right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

    BS. Hes taxing the middle and lower income people who pay for their health care. They barely have much to live on and loose over a hundred dollars out of their pay between taxes and health care and 401k. Government will not be happy till they have all of it and you are still paying for NOTHING! Why are they not schooling people who go on welfare to get a job skill? There used to be some work incentive programs years ago , but I havent heard of any for years. Our nation has become such a toilet. It used to be safe and wonderful for kids to go out and run around the neighborhood playing. Now they are either gangs or in a business to strip cars. Good kids have to stay indoors like they are in jail. Our youth are the first ones who have lost all their freedoms to be children. Government has been our enemy for so long it sickens me.

  • dbcooper150

    what the current thief in charge said is true America is not a christian nation. we are seeing the death throes of a country that once was great. I hate to say this but he will really stael the next election and will bring america to its finally ruin. with the un and under employed at not 9% but much closer to 24% the days of a godless america and the world at whole are numbered. look at all the nations that are bankrupt but refuse to change policies. well they will be forced change. believe that

  • http://profiles.google.com/pudbertsavannahga Mort Leith

    We need to make a law that states that anyone on any form of government $$/assistance, relinquishes their right to vote,, as it is a clear conflict of interest.
    They can and will always vote for the crooked liberal that promises to keep or increase their welfare payments....

    • nobody8u2

      excuse me? I'm a disabled vet living on my VA disability. Does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to vote because I gave up my life (working ability) for those who push papers all day or make hamburgers and french fries?

  • CA

    When this country was developed everyone did their part. When you got off the boat, if you were a carpenter you built houses, if you were a farmer, you grew food, if you were a doctor, you kept people well. Everyone contributed for the betterment of all. Now, only 50 percent contribute for all. Wake up people, we are swiftly approaching the end of our country as we know it. We will not last as an entitlement society.

  • chiliboy

    In the being of our constitution, only LAND OWNERS Could vote.

  • bowtonoone2

    Thugs on the streets of Chicago make their living the same way: They just take it!

  • carole smith

    The story of the Golden Goose always made me upset as a child. Now, I know why.

  • ste1021

    The community organizer will keep coming back for more until the only ones left that have any assets will be the political and Hollywood elite.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BJKZ5JKHHN5KQSDN7ZNKKXG5CU Hawker 1

    Talk about all you want , talk is cheap. What are you/me doing about it. Donating if you can,work for the politican of your choice, run for office yourself or just sit and post(talk) a tough game?I donate, work the phone bank,and have been to every Tea Party gathering I could . I plan on doing a lot more by Nov. . So ask yourself what are you really doing besides a lot of talk?

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  • Holy Joe

    All taxes start out being small and maybe only to be onerus to a select few - inevitably & inexorably
    they are increased and extended to cover the few remaing no-tax payers, as the politiciians discover their unchecked need to cover more and more 'giveway' programs to entice and attract ever more thoughtless voters !
    A man of Republican thought wishes to work to make something of himself !
    A man of the Democrat persuasion wsihes to take what he can for himself from those who work. !
    That is the simple difference between the two systems.

  • namaholston

    Until we cease to believe the love of money is "god" we will never succeed as being the once true Republic we once were. Everyone has a price and it's just a matter of what is is. If you are a politician it's off the charts because it's not worked for, isn't yours and any amount of unlawful, scheming, unholy tricks you can engage in is OK, because you are a "politician!" a self appointed little demi-god, a national treasure!

  • miamigirl

    In France the new socialist government is going to 75% for those making a million a year.

  • duif100

    Obama; the olnly president for whom every failure is a success!

  • Bama59

    The real kicker to all of this is that all those rats in DC not only believe, want you to believe, that it is their money but look at the way they try to sell it. "If we leave the tax cuts (established tax rates) in place, it will cost the federal government ??? billion a year and increase the deficit. NO, it cannot cost the government anything because it was my money to start with, never the governments, so stop counting your chickens that should never hatch. By the way, stop spending so much on failed projects and giving away money and you may find that the government already has plenty.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_H6T4KWQ5AGKFBDM4P4DFWPLU4A Moose

    What these idiots on welfare don't realize is that communism / socialist take over they will have to work what ever job the government assigns them, at whatever wage the government decides to pay them which will be lower than minimum wage. Any refusal to do so on their part will result in arrest, or death. If they will not be a productive member of the state, then the state has no use for them, and will not support them to sit around and do nothing. It just goes to show you what dropping out of school to live off of other peoples wages (welfare ) will eventually get you.........ENJOY!

  • ladyj


  • duif100

    Obama thr great destroyer si deliberately running America into the ground.
    He is not stupid and understands perfectly well what he is doing.
    It is destruction by design.
    Not one positve initative to promote job growth.That is a failure and no accident.
    Investments like Solyndra were intended to go under.That is a failure and no accident.
    Union bail outs instead of stimulating job growth.That is a failure and no accident.
    We can make a long list of Obama investing in the wrong things and the taxpayer being screwed. Nobody with the resources and the investigating power of the federal Government behind them can do so poorly unless it is intentional.
    They have all however one thing in common..they are all major contributors to the Obama campaign. It is really a bribery scheme where you will get a lot of money from me (Obama, the government) but you have to donate to his campaign. You get your money, I get mine and the taxpayer pays and America is being destroyed.
    We can therefore thruthfully say:
    Obama; the olnly president for whom every failure is a success!

  • Idylewylde

    This goes right to the heart of the term 'Adult'.
    An adult makes his/her way through life acquiring greater personal power, and this includes wealth, and uses that power to raise their children accordingly with the same values.
    A permanent child, a ward of the government, will never be an adul, or rear adults.
    I'm not against a social responsibility to render assistance to our fellow citizens in times of duress. I am, however, opposed to the terms inflicted on us by this arrogant political culture that means to remove my right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness ... that pursuit of Happiness being the proof that the government has no inherent right to subvert my Happiness to insure their own.
    Let's face it. The professional political class, in both parties, have evolved into parasites.
    Every law we see passed is designed to strip away our adulthood, including the right to raise our own children, and to impose their Mommy state on as as our parent so that they can feed off of our misery .. and our money.
    They want to reduce all of us to the status of 'wards of the state' .. thus Obamacare.
    If the State is Mommy ... then we are all worthless bastards .. like the one in the White House.

  • Patrick Henry

    OUR Constitution doesn't give the President complete authority to take money from whomever he pleases to do whatever he pleases, to remain in Power and push his Socialist agenda. Congress has the authority to legislate, NOT the President, the Executive Brance has the responsibility to carry out the necessary Laws enacted by The Congress that represents ALL 50 States. We elect a President, NOT a Dictator.

  • Enrique

    I've always thought you should only be allowed to vote if you were a tax payer.

  • MarMac2768

    The biggest thing wrong with this "tax the rich and they will pay the bills" idea is this; the people who have the power of lawmaking are some of the rich. Look at the salaries of Congressmen and the President and their net worth. The ones that make the laws give plenty of TAX LOOPHOLES to insure that they can exempt certain parts of their income to prevent them from paying the 35% that they will impose on others. The rich can hire these tax lawyers and accountants to avail themselves of the loopholes that are in place and not pay anything more themselves. The middle class people, who can't afford these tax experts to keep them from paying and they (we) wind up paying more. It's a no win situation for the middle class.

  • Carlos

    i understand that in the beginning, only landowners were allowed to vote. Only those with a "vested" interest in the outcome.

  • Tank

    When I read stuff like this, why do I have the vision of Joe Biden running around in a court jester outfit, yelling (with a lisp) "The King hasth sthpoken!"

  • f8tul

    Well, if you want a revolution it is on the brink.. What part of TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY do you idiot politicians not understand??? WE THE PEOPLE ARE AT THE BRINK.. and personally, this PATRIOT thinks that there will NOT be an election due to the pansy ILLEGAL-ALIEN BORN IN KENYA's plan for OWS' distruption to cause an "emergancy" so Martial Law can be instituted..

    yes, I got all that from half of the country agreeing with raising the taxes on the hard-working backbone of this country... well, if this takes place this country is finished

  • IcallBS

    The is a nice story, but there are a few misleading issues.
    1) You ask how we got to a point where the richer pay a higher percentage in taxes, but that has always been the idea, even Jefferson advocated it and he was an anti-federalist. Taxation also used to be much more progressive during the post WWII period (much higher top rates, 70-80% on the margin for the top brackets, and higher effective average rates).
    2) 50% of people pay no federal income tax, but they still pay other federal taxes (e.g. social security). The way you worded it is practically a blatant lie (and this seems to be common practice, anyone spouting this drivel doesn't deserve to be listened to). Most of those who pay no federal taxes are the poor elderly (half of those who don't), blind, and crippled.
    3) The direction of the country has bee lower and less progressive taxation over the last 50 years, particularly when you consider interest and capital gains, and caps to social security, which disproportionality benefit millionaires. State and local taxes are also very regressive (lower incomes paying a higher percentage).
    4) The real threat to democracy is that those with more money get much more influence on policy. If you don't think special interests fighting for their own monetary gains aren't driving most of the decisions in gov't over the last several decades you haven't been paying attention.
    I am not saying exactly what we should do, but let's at least get the facts right in the debate.

    • johnrhett

      Your theory is not valid; when tax rates were much higher, there were many more deductions and loopholes than there are now. Your mistake is looking at the tax rates, not the actual amounts paid. Also, let's face it, Dems are all for raising taxes because they know they won't pay them [Geithner, Kerry, Daschle, Rangel, etc.; Buffet alone owes $1billion in taxes that he refuses to pay, but he is still running around telling people to pay more taxes.].

      As for people who actually do pay their taxes: look at an IRS business-tax form and tell me what deductions you would like eliminated: office expenses? inventory expenses? rent? insurance? We already have the highest corporate tax rate in the entire world. Read Thomas Sowell's writings on the subject. When the tax rates fall,
      tax revenues rise. Raising taxes will only accomplish one thing: fewer people to pay taxes. The rich have options, and they are using them now
      every time a country or state raises taxes - they leave. What happens
      then? Who will fund the government? Will it be government employees who
      pay for government? Their paychecks COME from the government. Welfare
      recipients? Again, their checks COME from the government. Who will pay
      the salaries of everyone in the private sector [that is, the people who
      actually pay for government and for everyone who is on the government

  • Proudamerican

    The ironic part is obama thinks whatever you and I have is not our money either. In his sick, twisted little world, whatever you and your ancestors worked for and earned by hard work means nothing and he has designated himself to be the one that takes it to give to who HE thinks should have it. Yes, he is a real pos!

  • CharlieM

    So, we are now down to our last sheep, and the goose is on life support. What a hell of a plan to keep the US as an exceptional country.........oh right, Barry says we are not exceptional. But now what? Barry is certainly not the answer. As the saying goes: he is the problem, but can he BUY the presidency with social "fairness"?

  • Leonard

    I am so tired of people saying we must vote for the lessor of two evils to remove the most evil. Until people get a back bone and start voting for good we will never reverse evil. Even if for a time we end up with the evilest, maybe that will wake people up. Voting for the lessor of two evils is still voting for evil. Incrementally and over time we have moved farther left toward evil because no one has faith that good will prevail. Until men grow a pair our choices will always only be evil and moderate evil.

    • johnrhett

      The time to vote for good is in the primaries. After that, you vote for the lesser of evils. That's the way it is. Now pull up your grown-up pants and do what's necessary to get Obama out of office, or we may not have the chance to vote again, if it isn't already too late. Obama just signed an Executive Order giving him control of all communications whenever he feels the need, not just in an emergency. Now all of the dominoes are in place - it only takes one small tap and the Republic falls.

  • http://twitter.com/BradNova Brad Nova

    So how long has the progressive tax been in existence? The top rates have usually been much higher than they are now and we have a history of a much better economy when the rates are higher.

    I think articles like this one are pointed out in a quote by President Lincoln.

    Corporations have been enthroned, and an
    era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country
    will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people
    until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is
    Abraham Lincoln, letter to William Elkins, Nov. 21, 1864. (After
    the passage of the debt causing National Bank Act [June 3, 1864]).

    • johnrhett

      Read Thomas Sowell's writings on the subject. When the tax rates fall, tax revenues rise. The rich have options, and they are using them now every time a country or state raises taxes - they leave. What happens then? Who will fund the government? Will it be government employees who pay for government? Their paychecks COME from the government. Welfare recipients? Again, their checks COME from the government. Who will pay the salaries of everyone in the private sector [that is, the people who actually pay for government and for everyone who is on the government dole]?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Greta-F-Rich/100000112892541 Greta F. Rich

    I totally agree with the sentiment that those who get their money to live from the taxpayers without having to work should immediately be dropped from the voter's rolls. In the original 13 states only the landowners, who all paid high taxes, were allowed to vote. Then, after the Civil War, they grafted in rules for non-land owners. But you still had to be a citizen in good standing who had paid their taxes. If you hadn't paid into the tax system, you were dropped from the rolls. Only since LBJs Great Society have we allowed non-land owning, non-tax paying people vote. They are not supporting society, not paying taxes (except sales tax) into the system. Why should they have an equal right to vote in elections without partiiciating in the monetary support of society. If they want to vote, they should begin putting into the system, not just taking out without participating. Even the Jamestown colony had a rule: You don't work, you don't eat. You don't work and pay taxes, it should be, you don't vote.

  • el_loco_jp

    I submit: "No representation without taxation". Deadbeats who merely take and take and take and provide nothing should not be allowed to vote for

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/24PU32BHXAQEIHRXOAKLYIHPTM Gary

    Write your representatives to charge Obama and his administration with treasonous acts and any republican that has voted for his treasonous agenda.

  • Old guy 36

    I'm 76. How many of our freedoms do you think I've seen vanished in my lifetime? I'm tired of hearing about everyone's "rights" - I never hear a word about anyone's "responsibilities". We've allowed the liberals to create a nation of arrogant, ignorant freeloaders. It would be nice to see some people get out from their 500 channel TV's, and become responsible citizens before it's too late. Those guys who stepped out of a landing craft into a bullet in the head at Normandy, didn't do it so people could trash their constitution.

  • i-dreamgreen

    Extending Middle Class Tax Cuts for 98% of Americans
    Yesterday the President called on Congress to extend the middle class tax cuts for the 98 percent of Americans making less than $250,000 for another year.
    If Congress fails to act, a typical middle-class family of four will see its taxes go up by $2,200, and America’s small business owners would take a big hit. The President refuses to let that happen.

  • bob

    What kind of idiot messes with the rich people. WHo do you think has had all presidents assassinated since harrison.

  • Abouna R.

    It is no longer a CONSPIRACY THEORY but now a CONSPIRACY FACT that Obama is an illegal constitutionally ineligible occupant of the Office of the President. It is a KNOWN FACT that he is a fraud and a liar. So, why are ALL the members of Congress wasting their time and OUR money, by trying to fight Obama's tax increases, Obama's abomination of a health care, and all the other crap he has forced into "law"? It would be so much quicker and cheaper just to declare his presidency a fraud, have him arrested for crimes against the American people, the Constitution and the Nation, then every thing he has enacted can be declared null and void. PROBLEM SOLVED.

  • Swampfox

    Only tax payers should be allowed to vote.

  • america7

    obacrap your a wicked evil dog with no brains in your head just rock first its not your money it is our s we work for moron why dont you go somewhere else and dictate

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1590072570 Wanda Reeves Kelly

    obozo has filleted open america as sure as the rich, greedy man opened up the goose that layed the golden egg.

  • DrZarkov99

    “Republics decline
    into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.”
    --- Aristotle

  • BAJ

    I agree with you J Moore people on walfare are wards of the state. As for voting. If you are not a US Citizen you should not be able to vote.

  • Othello

    Hey Obama, IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!! Those people who make over $200,000 worked hard for that money. They were not the ones that sat on their @$$ while others went to work. They were not the ones with their hands out with the "You owe me" attitude. STOP punishing those who are not afraid to work HARD and want to make something out of their lives.

  • Robert

    When are people going to learn That Dirty Diaper Head Obama has no consideration for the Constitution, the rule of law, the Bill of Rights, or even United States of America is a sovereign nation. He's like the old bad joke" the bank tells a woman she is overdrawn in her checking account and she tells the bank that's impossible because I still have checks left" unfortunately old Diaper Head Obama has his name on the check book and absolutely no concept of where the money comes from.

    This seems to be a common problem amongst our elected officials and if we don't reign them in it will just continue to spend what they don't have. We need term limits and we need to eliminate career politicians.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Holzhey/690529497 John Holzhey
  • johnnywoods

    There is little difference between "pure democracy" and a lynch mob.

  • JAS64

    When the large company fires people to stay alive........it sure as hell IS my job and IS MY MONEY!


  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ISEDY4VKD7SZQCG37PCOKE2E5E alfred m

    I just voted 100 X absentee from Mexico for Ted Cruz in the Texas Republican US senate primary. Actually, I'll save that secret for the presidential election.

    Cannot wait to see Soros' owned Spanish company's fraudulent voting results in November.

    Why is Soros still alive? Why are Insane Hussein and Huck Folder alive? Disgraced fmr lawyer MO? Dizbang Nonsense Pelousy? Senile Harry Reid?

    Useless garbage all!

    Never vote for an incumbent nor a lawyer!

    FD: I voted for Ron Paul last trip and really dislike Romney, but he may be better than the Omabanation (sic).

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XXM376MXK5L7QAL3H752WB7WQU arlo


  • reggiec

    The brutally honest truth is that the United States Government, driven by the Socialistic ideology that drives us ever deeper in debt, has grown to the point where the productive private sector can no longer support it.
    The government does not create wealth. They are absolutely dependent on the private sector to generate wealth they can tax in order to operate. If they insist on operating beyond the ability of the private sector to support them for any length of time; the eventual result is economic Armageddon. "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." ~ Thomas Jefferson

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1132616097 Carmen A. Cantalupo

    Only Land Owners should be able to Vote with people in e ArmForces.

  • maggiemae

    I have had to show a drivers ld to vote all my voting life---no big deal--unless you are illegal--then it becomes a big deal--if you don't drive --you can get a photo id at the dmv --- food stamps and medicaid are good things if you need a hand up--but to many people make it a way of life--same way with unemployment ins--what happened to peoples pride?

  • The Texas Cooke

    Now I'm confused....since when does the President of the United States tax ANYONE? I thought that was congress' job....more specifically the House of Representative's job to introduce that kind of legislation. I think that he needs to shut up and start explaining his other short comings....

  • Norm

    It is not just the poor moochers, but also the middle class and wealthy ones as well. Farm subsidies go primarily to wealthy corporate farmers. Student tax credits go to disproportionately middle class folks whose kids go to college. Medicare and Social Security, are also transfer payments from workers many of whom aren't close to the incomes of many recipients.

    Yes, the class warfare rhetoric of taxing the rich is terribly effective, but only so long as there isn't strong and articulate debate on what is demonstrable fallacy.

  • The_American_Way

    The government needs to get out of the charity business. Let local charities handle
    charitable giving. For those that paid into Social Security, they should get Social Security.

    For those that didn’t pay into Social Security, they should not get Social Security. As for illegal immigrants the only thing they should get is the boot out of the country. Come here legally if you want to come here.

    Liberals are making all this stuff harder than it is. It's not about feelings. It's about what's right.

  • jjkrjw

    And when he finds that taxing those with incomes over $250,000 doesn't make a dent in the debt, he'll lower the threshhold to $200,000, then $150,000, and so on.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NMSPEMYSEE36IUA7W2RMZY2HLY capa760

    The US Government has embezzled funds from Social Security, and now emptied the US Postal System Retirement Fund. What other funds are empty, and have no balances to pay the retirement checks? You can bet that the Obamacare depository account for illegal National Healthcare, will be drained, if this 'bad idea' is not smacked down asap. The House is taking three years too long to bring justice for the American taxpayers. STOP spending to 'green' Africa; Stop spending Foreign Aid to our enemies; STOP funding the UN headquarters in the USA to a cost of $6.354 billion each year; STOP all Senate earmarks, un-authorized earmarks, special grants, special projects, and Golden Fleece projects: put Senate term limits on the November's Election. Put Obamacare on the ballot;STOP Whitehouse budget overruns; STOP Presidential free travel-retrieve all expenses from Obama DNC account funding NOW. Utah should now join the rest of the 49 states, and realize exactly what is going on in D.C. along with OVERSPENDING Crisis.


    o $$$hithead... F..k You!!!

  • jimf1958

    I'm on disability and wouldn't vote for Obama if you put a gun to my head. I love my country to much to see it destroyed by a wana-be fasciest dictator

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lee-Sullivan/100000256745869 Lee Sullivan

    Welfare has been taken too far and those on it are only too glad to be. This is why Obama is so popular, he doesn't care anything about these people but they are his useful idiots to help get him where he wants to go. When there he will cast them aside like a hot potato. God has His own opinion of willingly non-working people. 2 Thessalonians 3:10: For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, THAT IF ANY WOULD NOT WORK, NEITHER SHOULD THEY EAT.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Geondal Eun-hye Jung

    As I read the comments given on this subject it frustrates me... to see the birthers once again are trying to take control of the debate.. While I think it is a good point and worth addressing...however, it is a dead horse issue...
    Since it has nothing to do with this current issue... and it is too late now... our real focus should bedealing on how America is going to get the socialist genie back into the bottle now that it is out and running amuk in Washington.

  • larrylunts

    During the Eisenhower administration, the highest marginal tax rate was 91%. Despite problems like the cold war and institutional racism in the deep South; it was a golden age in may ways. WW2 veterans were going to college on the G.I. Bill; the middle class was growing and prospering (and so were the rich); home ownership was something most people took for granted; and most people could afford to send their children to college. Both political parties took their responsibility to serve the public seriously. The Republican Party of 1956 was, politically-speaking, to the left of today's Democratic Party, and on a different planet entirely than today's "Republicans." By and large, we were united as a people, and we had a stable society.

    Now we are a divided society, with a growing disparity in wealth, veering dangerously toward the right. The ruling class has most of the money, controls both political parties (the Republicans more that the Democrats), and owns the media. The rich are in control, and out-of-touch; while the poor and middle class are working harder but making less. This does not make for a stable society. Eventually, the people at the bottom will realize that they are being played for suckers, by being forced to fight with each other for the meager scraps the rich are willing to let them keep, and controlled by hatred over wedge issues. When that day comes, it isn't going to be pretty. Google "French Revolution" to see what can happen when the stratification in society becomes too extreme.

    Speaking of scraps, the Republicans are coming after your Social Security. They want to take the Trust Fund you have been paying into for all of your life, and privatize it; so they can gamble it away in the big casino on Wall Street, like they did with the housing market. Don't let them. Vote Democratic in 2012. While both parties may be tainted by the corrupting influence of corporate money in politics, there is some hope with the Democrats. There is none with the Republicans, who might as well be wearing Nascar-like jackets with logos of the corporations who own them.

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  • mike d

    Obama is the most divisive President that thius country has ever had. he is spending our tax dollars like a teenager with a credit card - which will soon bankrupt this country and will make life even more difficult for our kids and grandkids.
    his "hope and change" has become "gloom and doom"... demonizing successful Americans and creating more entitlement programs may get him more votes, but it will also drive this country off of a cliff. while he claims to help the middle class, he has SHRUNK the middle class and is taxing them to death - the middle class will be the ones paying the most taxes when Obamcare gets into full effect (of course, after the November election)
    welcome to Greece... Obama should be impeached for treason !!!

  • bressler


  • southc0ast

    How did we allow this state of affairs where we are compelled to accept the confiscation of our earnings and must go through the yearly charade of "doing our taxes" in the hope of getting some our confiscated income back which held by the state interest free? Why have we allowed this?

    • CARLjr

      Because we need police, fire & emergency services, a military, roads, bridges & highways, public transportation, power plants, waste disposal, Mail delivery, sewer systems, public education, etc, etc. Taxes have been collected in the United States since 1634. I do not think there is a country on the planet that does not collect some form of tax.

      How do you propose a non-taxed society would operate? Would we have ever made it to the moon? Won World War II? Cured Polio?

      • dntmkmecomoverther

        Your ignorance is stupendous. The US wasn't taxing anything in 1634 as there was no US government yet. The taxing authorization doesn't come along until the 16th Amendment in 1913 and the rates were quite modest. Under Democrats, those rates rose to 94% for individuals making over $250k by 1944. Now that is SOME incentive for success isn't it? DuH!

        Those rates, along with the hikes which were introduced in 1918 and following helped mire us in a recession and depression that lasted up to 1966 when the highest rate came 'down' to 60% (which frankly is such a disincentive to be successful that it's a wonder we have any exceptional entrepreneurs at all)

        The fact is that our government wastes tax dollars like there is no tomorrow. I provide this summary visual of our present situation. Suppose your basement fills up with sewage. Do you raise the level of your house or do you do away with the sewage? Our government would tell you to raise your house. If that's your idea of success, then you have a mental disorder my friend.

        • CARLjr

          Although the modern income tax dates from the adoption of the Sixteenth Amendment in 1913, an income-like tax, known as a “faculty” tax, appeared very early in the New England colonies. A Massachusetts Bay law of 1634 provided for the assessment of every man’s assets and the product of his abilities. In 1638, the General Court in
          Massachusetts required all freemen and non-freemen to support both the
          commonwealth and the church. Direct taxes took two forms: (1) a wealth tax and (2) a poll, or head tax, which in some instances evolved into or included an income tax. In 1643,
          assessors were appointed to rate inhabitants on their estates and their
          faculties, which included personal abilities. Further definition three
          years later specified the taxation of “laborers, artificers, and
          handicraftsmen” on their “returns and gains.”

  • CARLjr

    The tax code has ALWAYS had different rates depending on adjusted gross income. This article acts like adjusted tax rates were just decided yesterday, when they have been that way for a hundred years! The REALITY is for the people in this top tax bracket - they pay a much smaller percentage than they did in the sixties, seventies, and early eighties, and have been relatively stable throughout the 90's and 00's.
    The millionaire taxpayer in 2011 PAID LESS THAN HALF of what they would have paid in taxes 40 - 50 years ago.

    • dntmkmecomoverther

      So what should we do with the 47% of the population that pays NOTHING in federal taxes? Do you see any equity in that whatsoever? Just because our government under FDR fleeced the rich is no signal that it was 'right' to do so. Frankly, if you want more of something, tax it less. If you want less of it, tax it to death...damned if we haven't done that to our successful folks. God help us.

      • CARLjr

        That statistic is inflated. Sure, children don't pay taxes, being listed as a dependent on someone else's taxes (like a stay at home mom), people unable to work due to a serious disability, and the elderly. Moreover, this figure only includes income tax and does not factor in other federal taxes that are paid.
        Let me explain — repeat actually — what [the figure] means: About half
        of taxpayers paid no federal income tax last year. It does not mean
        they paid no tax at all. Many shelled out Social Security and
        Medicare payroll taxes. Some paid property taxes and, it is fair
        to say, just about all of them paid sales taxes of one kind or
        another. So to say they pay no taxes is flat wrong

        Did you buy a cup of coffee at Starbucks this morning? Did you pay sales tax on it? Then you paid more than General Electric paid in taxes last year.

        The company reported worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, and said $5.1
        billion of the total came from its operations in the United States. Its American tax bill? None. In fact, G.E. claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion.

        • dntmkmecomoverther

          Carl, you are so misguided I don’t know where to start; so I inserted comments in your response below.

          That statistic is inflated. Sure, children don't pay taxes, being listed as a dependent on someone else's taxes (like a stay at home mom), people unable to work due to a serious disability, and the elderly. Moreover, this figure only includes income tax and does not factor in other federal taxes that are paid.
          My response: No, that figure is not inflated, it comes from the IRS. 47% of those filing federal tax returns (individuals) pay no federal taxes. This does not include an children since they do not file.

          Let me explain — repeat actually — what [the figure] means: About half of taxpayers paid no federal income tax last year. It does not mean they paid no tax at all. Many shelled out Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes. Some paid property taxes and, it is fair to say, just about all of them paid sales taxes of one kind or another. So to say they pay no taxes is flat wrong

          My response: Those who pay no federal income tax are not likely to pay much in sales tax compared to those who actually do pay federal taxes. They are receiving free education, free breakfast, free lunches and now DINNERS at the schools! The parents are receiving food stamps so no sales tax is collected there either.

          Did you buy a cup of coffee at Starbucks this morning? Did you pay sales tax on it? Then you paid more than General Electric paid in taxes last year.
          My Response: GE also provided over 66,000 jobs; did you forget about that little detail? With investment tax credits and other tax incentives to provide jobs, it’s not uncommon for a large corporation to have years where they pay no federal income tax. GE had a couple of losing years where they lost over 2 billion; that loss can be deducted from ensuing year’s returns as well.

          The company reported worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, and said $5.1 billion of the total came from its operations in the United States. Its American tax bill? None. In fact, G.E. claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion.
          My Response: Perhaps when you bring as much to the economy as a GE or Microsoft, you can earn these tax credits as well. In your world, you would rather punish these job producers…that makes no sense at all. If you want more of something, tax it LESS. If you want less of something, tax it MORE. This is a simple concept that too many people fail to grasp.

        • CARLjr

          A Free Press analysis of IRS data shows that people making more than $30,000
          went from less than 1% of nontaxable returns in 1996 to 17% in 2009. The number of nontaxable returns for filers
          with incomes of $30,000-$40,000 went from about 85,000 — about a third of 1% of
          the total — to 4.8 million, or 8% of the total, by 2009. That's an increase of
          more than 5,000%. (By way of comparison, the overall number of tax returns went
          up by about 17%, and the total number of nontaxable returns doubled in that

          But the percentage increase was even bigger for higher wage earners.
          Nontaxable returns from people with income between $75,000 and $100,000 went
          from 4,025 in 1996 to 476,624 in 2009 — an increase of almost 12,000%. More
          than 1,400 millionaires didn't pay income taxes in 2009, either.

          Q: Why the change?

          A: Tax cuts and tax breaks. As Clint Stretch, tax policy expert at Deloitte,
          explains it, the tax cuts won by President George W. Bush in 2001 and 2003 not
          only reduced income tax rates, they doubled the child tax credit from $500 to
          $1,000; eliminated the marriage penalty by giving couples twice the standard
          single deduction (rather than a slightly smaller amount), increased the earned
          income tax credit, cut capital gains taxes and more. All of those items — as
          well as breaks like those for mortgage interest, charitable deductions and
          medical expenses — can mean a huge savings.

          But it didn't stop there. President Barack Obama added other breaks, too,
          like the Making Work Pay credit — worth $800 to a couple or $400 to an
          individual filer — as well as the American Opportunity Credit for college,
          worth up to $2,500 per student, on top of the $4,000 tuition and fees
          deduction. "Mathematically, you're not going to pay taxes" if you
          have a modest income and qualify for a lot of those breaks, Stretch said.

  • LisaC

    "How did we get to the place when elected officials can tax American citizens at disproportionate rates...?" We got there when Congress passed the 16th Amendment, which established graduated tax rates. The best way to fix the problem is to abolish the 16th Amendment and change the tax code from an income tax to a consumption tax: the FairTax!

  • Nottakenyan

    Ameriker dos naught has a pressident, what Ameiker has is an illeagle, lie-in frickin' nagger frum Mombasa, Kenya!!!

  • John Gaver

    The fallacy every time the government increases tax on the rich, more of the rich leave... permanently. According to Zogby, more than 3 million Americans relocate outside the USA every year. How many of those people do you think are poor? If you don't think that's a real problem, read "The Rich Don't Pay Tax! …Or Do They?" You'll never look at taxes the same way again. The people who pay the bills and create the jobs are leaving and that's a serious problem.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tom.townsendii Tom Townsend II

    Lest we forget, this is the same mentality Hillary Clinton displayed when during her husband's administration she became exctatic over the high profits of a certain group of corporations and declared she wanted to "take" these profits that were not hers and invest them where she wanted the money to go instead of to the board members and share holders of these companies who had taken the risks and actually earned the money.

  • T Lady

    These are words to live by: Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it. We would be wise to heed the words of those quoted in this article.

  • Bay0Wulf

    I have long advocated that those who are not verifiably contributing to the welfare of this Nation should not be allowed to participate in the way the Nation is being run.

    I have always been amazed at the shortsightedness of people in general. When a WalMart came to town everyone was excited ... and a few years later griped because downtown had basically closed up shop. When a Lowe's or Home depot came to town everyone was excited until they found that the prices weren't that much better, even the "name-brand" materials were substandard and the employees knew very little about the trades, and all the good hardware stores had gone under. When the people look at the situation and vote for the free lunch they never realize that the lunch they eat today is coming from the pocket that they expect to get dinner from next week ... and will consequently be empty come dinnertime.

    I tell folks to try to buy American and they look at me and tell me that they save a couple bucks if they buy whatever WalMart sells (made in China). I point out that it might cost them their job but they say that they don't make such-and-such so what's the difference ... then when their neighbor who did make such-and-such loses their job and can no longer afford to pay for whatever it is that they DO make, they complain that its unfair that everyone is buying stuff made in China ...

    Truly we are in tough times ... Truly it is MOSTLY OF OUR OWN MAKING ... insist on and BUY USA ... yes it costs more but ... ITS YOUR JOB and YOUR NEIGHBORS

  • Jose

    This president and his gang want to punish people for being sucessfull and reward people for not trying to get ahead because they prefer govt. hand outs what a shame

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002866315809 Charles Higley

    Just imagine the power trip our Undocumented Worker-in-Chief is on. He was a lowly Senator and now he simply ordains a billion dollars here and a billion dollars there. He just sent a couple of billion to his Muslim Brotherhood buddies in Egypt—I guess a reward for a job well done.

    As far as the democracy is concerned, we have to hope that it is not too late and we still have enough citizens who would like to be free and make their own lives. Under socialism there is no career path, no rewards for being industrious and innovative, no freedom to be creative. There is only squalor and equal poverty for all—just like No Child Left Behind is really No Child Gets Ahead—the goal is complete mediocrity.

    As Margaret Thatcher said, "Socialism only works until you run out of other peoples' money." Government are unable to generate wealth, so they have to tax the wealth producers, of ALL sizes, to generate the funds to give away. This is what they call "social justice," a code term for stealing, stealing, and more stealing of the property of others—wealth redistribution designed to kill the urge of others to be productive.

    Just remember, the liberals who want Marxist socialism for us have no intention of living as they intend us to have to live. They thoroughly intend to be in the ruling class that sneers at the proletariat. They are the face of evil and arrogance—think Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

  • ClaudiusII

    It's not our money...? Yeah right! It belongs to a "Gold Tooth", WIK Card Holder, Kool Cigarette Smoker who's got the most expensive IPhone along with the newest of Nike high tops who crawls into an Emergency Room demanding and cursing that they immediately see a doctor because he or she has a drug overdose or MD 20/20 hangover. Not to mention a gunshot wound from gang violence. Yup! It aint our money. But please....Let's ALL help these stupid morons.

  • quipster

    Americans only please to vote with ID, Thank you !!!!!

  • 1-Eddie-1

    I do believe that Ben Franklin said "when the people discover that they can vote to give themselves money, that will be the end of the republic."

  • janaski

    his highness feels he can do anything he wishes, tax anyone he wants, then spend the money anyway he desires. who is barry soerto aka who is hussein obama?

  • JPM

    to JMoore Although I do not agree with must of taxing the rich excessily, I do aree that something is wrong with the taxation system when a secretary pays more in taxes than someone making many times more than she BTW do you advocate doing away with social security that the recipients have paid into for decades. What about military retirements? Are they also on your "hit" list? The sSocial security fund would still be fine if the polticians had kept their hands out of it. I think this started with L.B.J.a, democrat, but I coulb be wrongon this account. No I'm not a replublican, but an independent.

  • JPM

    BTW we are not a Democracy. We are a Republic.

  • antonioandy

    Who cares? The RULES CHANGE depending on if you have money, if you are an illegal, if you are dead and if you are socialist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000226950652 Heather Harrison

    If you don't own a house you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

    • MrSmith

      What about a trailer?

  • Sincerity

    Great article!

    Keep up the fantastic work! Please keep telling the truth, people; the deception and the mis-truths continue to be debunked because of this kind of dedicated reporting from honest news organizations. Though these brave authors are greatly outnumbered, the bold message is still making it's way through.....don't give up, the truth must prevail.

  • rae

    it's a sad state of affairs when someone is being punished for being successful and those that are not as much so, are happy to make the successful pay their way instead of having some pride and doing what they need to do to earn enough to support their families. It is even a sadder thing when the person heading up this "taking away from the successful" is the president and shame of us all for not impeaching this man that is doing his best to buy votes in the upcoming election by his usuall lying to us and for breaking so many laws and basically kicking the constitution our the door. He needs to be impeached and / or not re-elected. My grandchildren will be paying off his dept but you can bet he has his own children and future grandchildren protected so they won't have to suffer.

  • Celerity1

    Unfortunately, people like Obama think that the wealthy save their "extra" money by burying it in the backyard, or hiding it under their mattress. Truth be told, they put it into banks, which loan it out to entrepreneurs to start and build companies and into the stock market, which is an investment in a company or companies. In both cases, the money is invested in the private sector, where businesses ARE created and people ARE hired, and NOT in the public sector, which squanders money!! Margaret Thatcher once stated, "The problem with socialism (i.e., marxism, wealth redistribution, progressivism, etc.) is that you eventually run out of other people's money!" The problem will come when people discover that "robbing from the rich" hasn't solved all of the problems and the government lowers the threshold to $100,000, then $50,000, then $25,000. You see, it will never end!

  • one of the REAL republicans

    Your premise that small business cant invest in new equipment or hire more people is flawed.

    The tax comes after deductions, so the hiring of staff and expansion of business adds to the deductions and lowers the amount that can be taxed for said business.

    The fiasco with "Joe the plumber" during the last campaign was also flawed.
    Assuming Joe actually had the money to buy the business, the taxes on this business are not assessed against the "gross", they are assessed against the "net" which comes after paying staff, paying bills, buying expansion etc. I highly doubt that after expenses Joes plumbing business would have more than a quarter million in profit.

    Another flaw I noted:
    Keep in mind that the US is NOT a DEMOCRACY and NEVER HAS BEEN!
    READ the papers of the founding fathers and not that it was ALWAYS called a REPUBLIC!

    There is 1 problem in giving the wealthiest 1% a tax break over everyone else.
    When the lower classes can no longer afford to buy things anymore, there arent enough of the 1% left to carry the economy.

    Face it, the system has worked marvelously for the 1%, and not so well for the rest.
    Since they have done so well, dont they OWE the system a bit more because it actually worked for them?

    I dont care what the morons of Faux News say, its NOT going to bankrupt people who make millions a year.

    You guys should READ more and use your heads for something other than a hat rack.

  • PMDavis

    All I see and feel is the masses slobbering over the free money and benefits they think they are going to get from taxing the rich. What they don't understand or realize is that there is not that much wealth left in this country. A lot of wealthy people have lost lots of their wealth in the stock market and closed businesses back when the economy fell in 2008. Then the next question begs, "What then? Who are we going to tax for more money when the rich are depleted?" The answer is, "Everyone else," including the middle class, poor, etc. Then we will all be beggars just like the rest of the world.

  • coconuisse

    You've got to have a scapegoat to blame when you haven't accomplished anything. (at least, anything POSITIVE) And using Bush as an excuse for Obama's failures WAS getting rather long in the tooth, hence the PARTIAL shift to the "rich" as Obama's favorite fall guy. This has good positives for Obama since the poor, unwashed masses are too stupid to see past the twisted logic that, since they are not "rich", such a tax will not affect THEM (at least directly). But when you add in the pork taxes hidden in the Obamacare "legislation" AND the cost of all the new OBAMAregulations AND the soak the rich mentality, there will be no money left for the rich to hire new employees. (And the poor cannot afford to hire anyone.)Liberals will LOVE that because the unwashed unemployed then have to turn to them for their sustenance, thus giving the "progressives" almost total control over the masses! The New World Order will have arrived!

  • coconuisse

    You've got to have a scapegoat to blame when you haven't accomplished anything. (at least, anything POSITIVE) And using Bush as an excuse for Obama's failures WAS getting rather long in the tooth, hence the PARTIAL shift to the "rich" as Obama's favorite fall guy. This has good positives for Obama since the poor, unwashed masses are too stupid to see past the twisted logic that, since they are not "rich", such a tax will not affect THEM (at least directly). But when you add in the pork taxes hidden in the Obamacare "legislation" AND the cost of all the new OBAMAregulations AND the soak the rich mentality, there will be no money left for the rich to hire new employees. (And the poor cannot afford to hire anyone.)Liberals will LOVE that because the unwashed unemployed then have to turn to them for their sustenance, thus giving the "progressives" almost total control over the masses! The New World Order will have arrived!

  • gfsomsel

    This has been a problem ever since the individual income tax was enacted. We need a flat tax.

  • dHb

    class warfare! Socialism at it's best promoted by the Obama administration!

  • Marat Bandemer

    Here we go again. The United States of America is not a Democracy! It is a Republic.
    I am weary of so many ignoramuses that do not know the difference. There is a strong need for reeducation of many folks.

  • pennsyltuckian

    Democracy as it relates to taxing policy has been described as two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. That is only true if the 2nd Amendment has been abolished and the lamb is unarmed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/irene.eggers Irene Eggers

    I thought we are supposed to have "equal protection under the law" . Is a progressive tax really legal? Oh I forgot, anything that Obama wants is legal

  • Samtman

    Even pagan Rome and Greece took care of the poor, why cant we as a civilized society.

  • Blair

    Ronald Reagan said it: "Republicans look on today as the fourth of July. Democrats look on today as April fifteenth. For the Democrats, every day is April fifteenth." He was right.

  • Joanne

    When OBAMA LOSER is on tv I shut him off, who could believe anything that comes out of his mouth, all he does is spew lies.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ADZXXSOL2UHPQCXWGWIGUWYLRM Wetzlar

    In early times you had to own property in order to vote. If that were re-instituted, most levies would fail, and we would get politicians were of a sound fiscal mind.

  • Carol

    People wanted change they got it!!!

  • ste1021

    The community organizer is creating a socialist society where more and more people are dependent on government handouts. Eventually, all the resources from the productive members of society are gone and the central government collapses. Remember the old Soviet Union?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathleen-Craigie/100000164807155 Kathleen Craigie

    And it is not HIS country or constitution to trash at his whim or design.....It is OUR country and he was given the RESPONSIBILITY to be the LEADER of our country.... and even if he is not the best president ever.....the least that he can do is NOT to do any HARM to our country....but Nobama and his Leftist/socialist minions/kool-aid drinkers do not LIKE America and all that she stands for.....They want to spend America into insurmountable debt and total chaos in the name of SOCIAL JUSTICE and WE, the American people, are supposed to be the WILLING and DUMB guinnea pigs for their "grand designs" to turn our country into the U.S.S.A. and Nazi-Merica in less than 4 yrs......via OBAM-CONTROL,...aka "health care"......What a joke, but it is not a very funny one - for ANY of us!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbjeanpatton Barb Patton

    Only one word to describe the ayatollah barack hussein obama - corrupt. I dare not say more other wise I will be drawn and quartered = pass the slop bucket I need to puke.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DT2NG3VWR6VK5WLDNDIIZYRDZM E

    Barackula is draining the life blood from this economy and must have a stake driven through his heart in Nov.

  • Les

    "A Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting for dinner. A Republic is a well armed sheep able to contest the vote." Not sure who first aid that but it is so true. 51% can my life hell for 49% in a Democracy. Also, ALL Democracies end up being dictatorships.

  • Disproportionately Taxed

    Just ask W. He did it for 8 years. Or go talk to Cheyney, he helped. Tax the middle class, but give the rich tax breaks at a higher rate. Hypocrit Godfather. You believe your own hype, don't you.

  • Don from SE MN

    The above statements explains why we are "NOT" a democracy but a "Constitutional Republic". The progressives in the 1920's popularized taxing by income ( which Hillary Cliton proudly claims to be). Because of this we have now progressed to class warfare. We need to go back to where everyone is treated the same; a flat tax with no loopholes. That would eliminate most of the IRS and all the tax lawyers. Now Obama's talking heads are trying to push the idea that because Romney is rich he doesn't care about the "average" American. I say, because of his wealth he has more at stake and more to lose if things get worse in the USA. Remember that George Washington's wealth ,when adjusted to modern times, was the richest president ever and most people think he did a pretty good jab as Commander in Chief and President.

  • http://www.facebook.com/george.kish.14 George Kish

    I wish Godfather would single out Harry Reid as one who continually blocks anything Obama doesn't like from going to a vote in the senate. The one and the only reason ths has occurred since the GOP took over the house, is to not let the country see how their senators would vote on those issues. The adminiistration and Reid know how that would their congressional seats.

  • http://www.facebook.com/george.kish.14 George Kish

    would affect their..................insert below

  • sovereintyofone

    Let's take a look at Obama's big plan for the U.S. Simply put it's Bottom up, top down.
    He's already changed the middle class and in so many words done away with it. They or a lot of them are unemployed and on food stamps. So we've cut out the middle class so what's left. We have the Top and the very bottom. The very bottom is already poor and on government assistance and depend on the government for their daily lives. All that is left is to change the TOP, the rich or well to do of the country. How do we destroy the rich capitalist power brokers. We tax them out of exsistance, we regulate them to death and bring them down to the level that we can control with the government. Wait a minute.. what have we got left? The government is now at the top and everyone else falls into the Other class under control of the government.
    Isn't that the same thing as COMMUNISM? We have the elited party members (those that run the government) and the bottom class that includes everyone else under government control.

  • JacktheFAC

    Don't forget: It isn't even our money. The foreign owned Federal Reserve System prints our money and then SELLS it to the U.S. Treasury department, and action that it totally unconstitutional, since the Constitution says that the U.S. Treasure is to print and coin money. We can thank Woodrow Wilson for this travesty which has led to the runaway inflation that we now enjoy.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TUUWZJUGSPNTPBC6542EFMICSY Dr. Lynda

    I live in Texas and if Obama declares creates an "emergency" to halt the elections if he begins to think he is going to loose or he DOES loose, it would be prudent for Texas just to secede since we have that ability. That way Obama's thugs would not be able to control the Great State of Texas. I think we have enough fire power in the state (more guns than people) to defend her against Obama. We have the largest Army instillation in the World at for Hood. Me thinks most of that base would side with Texans. REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tara-Jean-Olson/591696061 Tara Jean Olson

    Did I read that right?? 50% of all Americans pay no federal income tax? If such a case be true, then why should a non-taxpayer get a vote? Sure, it is America, one person, one vote, but how can this possibly be fair?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Bazen/100000902510705 John Bazen

    All those whose lips are "Locked" onto the Government Teet, are by their own free-will selling themselves as government slaves!
    Is is the case in ALL D.C. funds there are more stings attached that will snare the most agile ones of us!
    Just look at ANY National Government Program, and see all the waste and all the stupid regulations that come with each one program!
    Case in point? U.S.P.S. must by Congress hand over billions each year, as cash yet they are going broke!
    What's up with that?
    What are smoking, snorting or sniffing, or injecting in D.C.? Or are they ALL old and senile?