Atheist Clubs Invading Public Schools

A number of high schools across the country have a variety of after hour clubs that meet on or near the campuses.  They range from musical, to talent, to community service, to agriculture, to trades fundraising, to career interest, to interpersonal dynamics, to religion.  You name it and some school is bound to have a club for it.

Some Christian clubs have been around for a while and they vary on type from area to area like Fellowship of Christian Athletes to AWANAs.  In some locations, Jewish Student Union clubs are very popular.  In areas that have high concentrations of Asians, there are Hindu and Buddhist clubs.  And yes, there are a number of Muslim school clubs that meet on or near campuses.

Unfortunately there is a growing trend in high school clubs that may start attracting students and leading them in the wrong direction.  Secular Student Alliance is a national organization geared to college and high school clubs for atheists, humanists, freethinkers and agnostics.  Some students who are attracted to these clubs refer to themselves as ‘nones’ – they have no religious affiliation whatsoever.

J.T. Eberhard, director of the high school program for Secular Student Alliance is working to expand the number of clubs in public high schools throughout the nation.  At the start of the last school year, they only knew of 12 SSA clubs, but that number rose to 39 by the end of the school year and they have requests for starter kits for 73 more clubs that they are working on.  In commenting about the SSA clubs Eberhard said:

"I am hoping that atheist students having their clubs and religious students having their clubs will promote dialogue.  I also hope it will let the atheist students know that you can be an atheist and it’s okay. You are still a good person. We want to say: Here is a place where you can feel that."

They also point to several studies that indicate an increase in religious doubt among people born after 1980.  In the same reports, those that never doubt the existence of God have been dropping.

One of the main reasons belief in God has been decreasing among our younger generation is directly linked to the teaching of evolution in the public schools.  From the moment kids start kindergarten or first grade, they are hammered with godless evolution and taught to doubt everything the Bible and their parents teach them.  By the time they reach high school, they have had 8-9 years of evolutionary indoctrination that tells them they are foolish if they believe anything else.

While the growing trend for atheist clubs doesn’t surprise me, it does tell me that the Church in general is failing the younger generation.  In Scripture, we see several examples of how faith in God was lost in a single generation.  However, we also see where that faith is regained when the people realized their sinful ways, repented and returned to believing in the one true God.  And that is my hope and prayer for America.  Nothing is impossible for God and through enough prayers, He could heal our land.


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  • Pastafarian

    All are welcome

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4ENB63ODGUC7YAF5EKZLEAWIAE Mary

      Except clubs for whites. Their in still exists blatant discrimination for there are tons of clubs for every other race.

      • flaphil

        You've got it, Mary. Whites no longer count in ObamaLand.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/4ENB63ODGUC7YAF5EKZLEAWIAE Mary

          Well, whites have been discriminated against for 50 yrs. since 1964 and social engineering libs took over.

        • flaphil

          No argument from me on that, Mary. However, now whites supply money redistribution of our money to the minorities. Try being a straight white male over 65 in this country since ObamaLand started, you get in the back of everything. I know, I'm one of them. Yet, there are these same people, that hate this country so much, that they vote for this clown and his allies.

        • flaphil

          No argument from me on that, Mary. However, now whites supply money redistribution of our money to the minorities. Try being a straight white male over 65 in this country since Obama-Land started, you get in the back of everything. I know, I'm one of them. Yet, there are these same people, that hate this country so much, that they vote for this clown and his allies.

        • flaphil

          No argument from me on that, Mary.

        • Babylonandon

          If Michelle Obama gets her way (as presented in speeches that were disappeared in early-2008) on "Ending Middle Class Whiteness and Demographic Justice" - in a generation or two their won't be enough white people left to have an impact anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.dinnerman Andrew Dinnerman

    the question the church should be asking is why has this happened on our watch? do your kids see God in you? I guess the answer is no because the study shows since 1980 the children have been walking away from church. no these children are parents. you reap what you sow

    • Pastafarian

      Perhaps when they look at the church, they see the coverups of pedophilia, and the unconscionable danger they put additional victims in. They see the racism, sexism, and complete intolerance for other religions, philosophies and the poor. They see indoctrination of small children with horror stories of eternal torment. They see a history of brutal torture and violence - from the dark ages through the Holocaust. They see a dismissal of proven science. They see phenomenal riches accumulated and no taxes paid - with rampant abuse of the court system. They see televangelists getting busted for scandal after scandal. They see the condemnation of homosexuals - only to have it come out that the accusers themselves are gay. They see the attempt to take away our freedoms - in all forms.
      It's not the parents - it's the rest of you.

      Or maybe that's just me.

      • Jim K

        Telling a child that he or she will go to hell if they don't believe a certain thing is just another form of child abuse. It's nonsense anyway.

  • kalline

    wake up parents...unless you are one of them...then YOU are the problem for sure

  • Shift Into Drive

    It's been a long time coming. Like the frog in the water slowly coming to a boil. With the breakup of the family, parents are too busy to go to church and so kids aren't going either. And our society is stressing to do whatever you want and whatever feels good.

    Christianity has a set of morals, ethics and rules that kids (and parents) just don't want to live up to. It's not convenient. It's easier to just not believe in anything, and that way you can do what you want and not have to worry about consequences. Sadly the tables are now turned so that if we disagree with or speak against this behavior, we Christians are labeled as intolerant and hateful. Oh, how far we have fallen in the past 40 years.

    We need to take a stand, and we need to be involved in our kids' lives!! Get 'em to church and do whatever we can to keep them involved in youth ministry and hanging around the right kids.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/4ENB63ODGUC7YAF5EKZLEAWIAE Mary

      When I was a kid folks regularly attended church on Sunday unless you belonged to a really dysfunctional family. We knew the lord's prayer, catechism, ten commandments, etc. Folks don't do that anymore unless you live in the South or come from a real religious family.

  • Shift Into Drive

    It's been a long time coming. Like the frog in the water slowly coming to a boil. With the breakup of the family, parents are too busy to go to church and so kids aren't going either. And our society is stressing to do whatever you want and whatever feels good.

    Christianity has a set of morals, ethics and rules that kids (and parents) just don't want to live up to. It's not convenient. It's easier to just not believe in anything, and that way you can do what you want and not have to worry about consequences. Sadly the tables are now turned so that if we disagree with or speak against this behavior, we Christians are labeled as intolerant and hateful. Oh, how far we have fallen in the past 40 years.

    We need to take a stand, and we need to be involved in our kids' lives!! Get 'em to church and do whatever we can to keep them involved in youth ministry and hanging around the right kids.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

    You will always have this segment of society that just cant live in peace with others whether it be believers and atheists or different groups of christians even. Why would atheists feel the need to take away other peoples rights to believe or practice their belief? Simply because it makes them feel better about themselves. It clears their conscience a bit and gets God out of their faces. They will always keep running away from God when no one is chasing them. They will always take it out on others. This is human nature. Peace, peace, when there is no peace. There is only peace temporarily if I can control someone else.

    • VietVet69

      Excellent reply and reasoning.

    • Pastafarian

      How are they taking anyone's rights away? What is the threat to peace you are talking about?

  • coconuisse

    New rule: Atheists are a type of religion. Since we are forbidding any Christian activity in the public schools then it is logical per the "separation of church and state" to forbid ANY branch of religion in the schools No Muslim, Hindu, Brahmin, Shinto, Buddhist, Jewish, Christian, agnostic, OR atheistic anything allowed! Where's the ACLU on THAT application of the "separation of church and state"?

    • nina

      Good point. But someone needs to complain to the ACLU first and usually it's only the whimpy libs who can't get what they want who do that.

    • Harrison

      That doesn't make any sense. This article clearly mentions Christian groups in schools.

  • darkcyder

    They fail to recognize that their advocacy of "believing in nothing" is actually " believing in something". They have to acccept a whole lot more things than a christion does in order to jsutify their beliefs. There is nothing new under the sun.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.zimmerman.77 Joe Zimmerman

    The socialist and atheist wanted GOD out of our schools so they could bring in the filth and trash of the atheist beliefs , let them pack up and move to CUBA ,,,,

    • Taylor Wallis

      They simply did not want religion force feed down their throats.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ryeary Ron Yeary

    These "clubs" won't last long. Since they believe in nothing, they will have nothing to talk about...

    • Pastafarian

      They can talk about science. Astronomy, Biology, Archeology, Physics, Chemistry, etc. They can swap pasta recipes and talk about Pirates. Lots of options. We do not "believe in nothing" we just do not believe in the supernatural.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4ENB63ODGUC7YAF5EKZLEAWIAE Mary

        The supernatural exists honey. I'm a freelance paranormal investigator. I don't get paid for what I do. I do it out of love for a hobby but if you ever saw the things I did you'd shoot your pants! Shame on you for not believing in Divine Providence.

        • Pastafarian

          There you go - a real live Ghostbuster. Are you a psychic? Do you stick to ghosts and haunted houses or do you hunt vampires too?

        • Shermer

          She knew you were going to say that...

  • flaphil

    Could you think of the uproar, if Bush's wife had said something similar during his 8 years? Yet, this amazon type woman of Obama's gets away with it. If they can plan and say this in public, but it never gets out, can you imagine what they're doing behind closed doors. She still blames whites and is in denial, that the problems they have are self inflicted. Her and her socialist husband even have disdain for white controlled countries.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dale.netherton Dale Netherton

    "Unfortunately there is a growing trend in high school clubs that may start attracting students and leading them in the wrong direction." Wrong direction? You mean questioning faith decrees? Once faith is identified for what it is and the harm it does to the human mind people should wake up and reject it.

    Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/6097/atheist-clubs-invading-public-schools/#ixzz20LLjNCwz

    • VietVet69

      Dale, I admire you for taking a stand - but I don't agree with you.
      As a Christian, I know I'm not perfect, just able to be Forgiven and have eternal life.
      It seems to me that we would take opposite sides on a bet, with you betting there is no God and therefore no beyond death consequences for what you have done in life.
      I'm betting that God Is and there are after death consequences for what we do before death.
      Now, if you're right and beyond death there is nothing, you and I have the very same consequences - except that during life I have tried to make people around me more moral and what I would call "sin free". Maybe that's even made me feel more satisfied and happy.
      On the other hand, if I am right and there are consequences after death, you've automatically lost and will spend an eternity suffering because of your belief. I, on the other hand, have an opportunity to be Forgiven and have an opportunity of everlasting life.
      "I" wouldn't bet on your side of the coin - it certainly defies any Logic I've been exposed to.

  • samtman

    Evolution is pure science, just like electricity is a scientific fact. We should not mix science with supernatural beliefes. Perhaps then we can get along better. I don't knock religion. I just don't find any evidence of a supernatural existance. We have freedom of speech and freedom, of and from religion . If one realy believes in his religion, he would not feel threatend by other Ideas. My good neighbor goes to church every sunday morning with his family, he knows what I believe in and vica versa, we respect each others believes and get along just fine. The biggest disagreement I have is the division of Church and State, that is written in stone as far as I'm concerned. Let me Qt. James Madiso, the fourth President and ordained Christian Minister, considererd by many to be the father of the Constitution. This is in a letter to Minister asking for an explantion of the first amendment. " The number, the industry, and the moralitly of the Priesthood,& the devotion of the people have been manisfestly increased by the total separation of the Chruch from the State".

    • Blair

      That's right. It is and it's proven science. You can't prove a biblical story, the story of Noah's Ark, which is based on the Babylonian epic poem, The Epic of Gilgamesh. Why can't you prove the story of Noah's Ark? Because it's religion, and science and religion, don't mix.

      • Darrell

        Where do you think fossils came from any way? Are their fossils being made today? I can answer these questions because I see the evidence clearly. When something dies today, it decays and turns to dust - no fossils. Fossils are only formed through a catastrophic
        event. Should a flood occur and cover up wildlife with mud and sand, a fossil can be created given pressure and some time. The fossil records that we have today were created by the flood otherwise we would have no fossil records. No epic can form a fossil. True science does indeed prove the flood took place and proves creation. Why believe the lie of an English teacher (Darwin) that never studied science? The fossil record shows that man, trilobites, trees, and dinosaurs all lived at the same time and something catastrophic took place - the flood.

        • Taylor Wallis

          Actually, fossils are formed in tarpits. Though I wouldn't recommend trying to go have a look see. You can also find older fossils in them. It is just not an easy or safe task getting to them.

        • Blair

          Actually, that's not true, Darrell. Fossils come from the mineralization of
          bone, skin, and other organic materials, including bark. Where do you think the Petrified Forest came from? Where do you think sandstone comes from? Sanstone's sand that's been fossilized. It usually comes from beaches. Check out the Morrison Formation in Morrison, Colorado, you'll see the dinosaur trackways. Recently, in Siberia, they discovered a 40,000-year-old baby mammoth in a sinkhole. California's La Brea Tarpitshave the remains of animals that fell into them. Some of them are direwolves, and mammoths. Near Scott's Bluff, Nebraska, there's a bone bed that has not only dinosaurs, but early mammals that died when the Yellowstone Supervolcano last erupted more than 60,000 years ago.
          It all depends on where the animal, or the person, falls. Remember the
          epilogue to the '70s series Korg, 70,000 BC?: "Neanderthal Man was the first species to bury its dead..." Many Neanderthal Man fossils were found in the Neander Valley in Germany in the 1850s. Recently, there was another fossil found in Germany of the missing link between monkeys and lemurs.

        • Darrell

          How are you dating these fossils? 60,000 BC?? Give me a break. Mineralization begins when organic materials are covered by mineral materials - usually by a flood, tide, or water current and sometimes by a volcanic erruption. Keep looking into the dinosaur tracks and you will find man's footprints in the same bed as they have found them in Colorado and in Germany. And by simple math and by calculating the population of the earth it doesn't take long to figure out that man hasn't been on the scene millions of years. Don't buy into the lie of so called evolutionists and their slanted views of the fossil records as they hid the findings in the Rio Grande River for almost 25 years.

        • Taylor Wallis

          I don't believe they date fossils correctly. They do not take in accout enough variables. To date correctly that would have to take in account all factors such as weather, climate, natural disasters, and so on. Along with doing models to find out what the carbon content fossils would have after a certian time.

        • Pastafarian

          Those fossils have been explained. They are not human footprints.

        • Blair

          The dinosuars died out 65 million years ago. The Permian-Triassic Extinction Event was 80 million years ago.

    • VietVet69

      Oh, I love Darwinists and Evolutionists. You conveniently forget three facts.
      Fact One: Darwin stated that if any part of his theory could be proved wrong, his whole theory would be disproved. Later in life, he was asked from where was the human eye evolved. Nothing similar could be found in the humanoid chain, or in any other species, and he was stumped.
      Fact two: A change in a species because of a genetic change that causes the species to being more adept at survival results in the death of those who can't adapt. If we are descended from apes or chimpanzees, why are there still apes and chimpanzees?
      Fact three: If there is an evolutionary change, and not a totally new creature, scientists have been able to show the progression from generation to generation - with the single exception of mankind. That "missing link" is still missing.
      Three "scientific" facts.
      So easy to overlook and ignore, yet they have proven impossible to be Disproven by scientists.

      • Shermer

        One: just google "evolution of the eye". You'll find plenty of easy to follow explanations.
        Two: We're not descended from apes, we are apes who share a common ancestor.
        Three: What is it you want humans to be linked to that hasn't already been shown?

      • Pastafarian

        I like a good debate.
        1. science does not work that way. Science has no beliefs which cannot, in theory, be overturned by new observations. New knowledge and arguments are encouraged, often overturning significant areas of scientific understanding. A good example of this was Pluto's declassification as a planet in 2006. (eyeballs are the first thing to decay in a dead organism. It would be difficult to find an intact eyeball from two generations ago, let alone five thousand generations ago. They do not fossilize.)
        2. The theory does not state that we were descended from apes or chimpanzees. It says we may have had common ancestors with them - millions of generations in the past.
        3. Finding evidence for biological organisms from millions of years ago is not easy. Biological organisms decay. Only a few fossilized remains have been found - and they support the theory but do not give a step-by-step version of every change. However, there are many fossils that support the theory, and you admit we have been able to see and document examples of heredity and generational changes in organisms. It is an exploration and investigation, not a set of facts like math or physics.

        Now how about some proof that we all descended from one man and his rib? At least this theory has SOME facts.

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

        The human eye evolved from earlier mammalian eyes with certain rods restored (earlier mammals had lost color vision because they were nocturnal).

        On Fact 2: ever heard of genetic drift that goes unchecked (provided it isn't deleterious)? That results in speciation..

        Fact 3: The species known as man today has only existed since the last Ice Age and can be traced.

    • Darrell

      Evolution is a pure lie - it denies all evidence, scientific reasoning, and scientific laws. Everything decays given time. Nothing evolves to something better. Consider the chicken and the egg argument: the egg is DESIGNED with an air sack that after the chick has become too large to get enough air through the pores in the shell, the chick, using a small beak tooth will bust the air sack and begine peaking violently until it hatches. How long would a chicken have to live to get that right? 20 Trillion years? Where would the chicken come from that lived so long to do this? How about this question: There are documented findings of tree trunks through the oldest known fossils of Trilobites that were supposedly lived before trees. In fact, in the Rio Grande River bed there have been found fossil human foot prints showing compression in the same strata layers as Trilobites. How could this be? Fossils were made by the flood - that is why there are sea shells on tops of mountains. One more thought to ponder: When Neil Armstrong landed on the moon, thye had expected several feet of cosmic dust but only found a few inches. If the moon had been millions of years old, they would have sunk into the dust but they only found enough cosmic dust to date the moon back 8,000 years max. The Bible stands proven true time and time again.

      • Taylor Wallis

        I do not believe humans came from anything else, however; we see evolution in every day life. For example, a tadpoll becoming a frog.

  • bob

    Bunch of losers who think they are enlightened because they believe in nothing. Ya thats smart.

  • Johnybegood

    In looking at America's history, it is lost on many that up until 1963, the Bible was a primer in all classrooms. As a result, Bible literacy was much higher in the years leading up to 1963. At that time, a Supreme court decision removed the Bible as a resource in our public schools. That's when Bible literacy began a constant decline until we've now reached a point when most young people don't really know anything when asked about specific events in the Bible. Once you don't know God's word, it is a short step to moral relativism - which is what we see today.

    • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

      The Bible was only removed as instructional material in an unpopular but correct decision (actually, 2 decisions). Students can bring their own Bibles to school, but the First Amendment means that a religion may not be advanced at the expense of the unwilling.

      There are more important things that Americans should know about than the Bible---such as the Constitution.

  • jerry1944

    The aclu are the leading anti God organions. And with the publice groups just giveing in to them because they dont have the money to fight them. they are winning. Schools is the best place to reach kids but God cant be tauch there. By way of the aclu. Now they want to get muslummss in to teach the curan. The teachers are already have to put up with gays in our schools and cant teach that being gay is a sin. So next they will have muslumms out of our kids. And so the libs move on in to take our kids. With GOD out of the schools it crime moves in, But its our fault for putting libs in the school board and any public office. The aclu isnt for God are freedom

    • Jim K

      jerry1944, you need serious help with sentence structure, spelling, and punctuation. This might help you get your point across.

  • 1776Patriot

    A faith in nothing is still a faith. Ask these athiest why they should be a good person. If your an athiest there is no punishment for being bad. I wish I was an athiest I'd be a very bad person if I didn't have the fear of God and my judgement. But I have seen and heard the lord and have no doubts in his omnipotent existance. These athiest are future souls waiting for thier moment of eternal salavation. Praise Jesus who died for all our sins.

    • Shermer

      I don't kill and steal because I know it's wrong, you don't because you're scared of God. That says alot about us, doesn't it?

    • Pastafarian

      Morals are not exclusive to those who "believe". In fact, we are often MORE ethical than believers. We deal with truth. Anyone who claims to have "seen and heard the lord" is obviously either lying, delusional, hallucinating, a swindler, or Moses.

    • Jim K

      1776Patriot, if Jesus died for sins it was news to him. Show me one place in the Bible where Jesus said anything about dying for sins. The truth is that Jesus was killed by the Romans because he was a threat to them. The notion that God sent His son to die for sins is preposterous. Let's see now, since Jesus is God, you know, that three in one business, God actually sent himself to die, does that make a lick of sense. I doubt that it does to anyone who can think past stuff he learned in vacation Bible school.

      • Taylor Wallis

        Actually if you read the Bible it says plenty about it.

    • Ramen Ramen

      Atheists do what is right because it is right. Christians do whatever evil deed they wish and then go to church and get saved or say a few hail Marys and POOF, they're absolved of all their sin. If you truly believe you have seen god then please make yourself an appointment at the nearest behavioral health agency.

  • mcj5060

    Atheism is a belief... a belief in man over any diety. So how is it THEY get install their BELIEF into public education.? If separation of church and state is to be observed it needs to include the worship of mankind.

    • Taylor Wallis

      They are not instilling their beliefs. They simply are saying religion should not be a part of school. They want nether theirs or anyother's beliefs to be taught, but only facts everyone knows to be true.

    • Ramen Ramen

      Atheism is not a belief. It is a lack of belief. Completely opposite. If it were a belief there would be dogma attached to it. There is no dogma attached to atheism. Every atheist has a different view on the world. This is the kind of ignorance secularists face every day but the tide is changing. Even our children are starting to see through the myth of religion.

      • Taylor Wallis

        Yes it is. They BELIEVE there is not a god. That is their belief.

  • GDC97

    Religion IS a MENTAL SICKNESS and the belief in any God IS a BIZARRE DELUSION, a PSYCHOSIS!!!

    • comeuntome

      You need to start talking to Jesus. Pray every day. Have people pray for your soul. Miracles happen. I'll pray for you too. For you are endangering your soul. God and Jesus love you. Read the bible and you will find wisdom and comfort in it's pages. If believeing in an afterlife, sharing the glory of god,and seeking salvation is delusional, Then I'm happy I'm delusional. I'm delusionally happy.

      • GDC97

        NO thanks I am NOT PsYCHOTIC like YOU are!!!!

  • wearyconservative1946

    I hope those two dried up old ghouls on the bottom left (in the picture) are still wearing their pleased as punch with themselves smiles when either the Lord returns, or they face him for judgment after they've pulled in their last breath and departed terra firma. Sadly, they'll finally understand that once we're born, we never die; that our only choice in the matter is to decide WHERE we're going to spend eternity, and that it's too late to change their minds at that point.

  • Taylor Wallis

    Public school does not teach evolution. I know, I have been in public school all my life and am in high school right now and plan on teaching in public high school. The closest thing you will get to teaching evolution is tadpols becoming frogs and small versions of bugs becoming larger into adult forms.

  • Avspatti

    I teach at a Community College in Colorado where they have a course called Introduction to Atheism. Of course, they would NEVER have a course called Introduction to Christianity. Sick. I have often thought of complaining, but really, what's the use?

    • Sally

      Hm - there are plenty of courses about Christianity at UNC.

      • Avspatti

        Maybe there is more open-mindedness in Fort Collins than in Denver.

        A good thing.

  • /.murphy

    This article is funny. I'll quote the author's own words: "Unfortunately there is a growing trend in high school clubs that may start attracting students and leading them in the wrong direction."

    And Christian, Jewish, and Muslim after-school groups are okay? They're mutually exclusive! Why wouldn't you worry about Jewish kids being "led in the wrong direction" by Christians who tell them about Jesus? How about Christian kids who might learn about Mohammed?

    ALL faiths should be allowed--including atheism--or ALL should be prohibited. All of the people in faith-based groups believe they have the "truth," but none can prove anything, so why not let students choose what makes the most sense to them?

  • EmuMuncher

    I was raised to be Catholic. Baptized before I could speak and went to a private Catholic school until i moved in 2nd grade. I went to church every Sunday, sometimes on Saturday too, also bible study every Wednesday. Not until i was 13 did i start to notice that it was always the same verses from the bible along with a crazy fairy tale thrown in now and then. So I decided to read the bible to learn what I've really been tricked into believing this entire time. The first 250 pages are full of outrageous fallacies, laws, and punishments of DEATH DEATH AND MORE DEATH. Over half of the World's population should of been stoned by now if you still think the bible is the answer. Luckily society has changed. We now know the world is round, sea monsters don't exist, and stones aren't a reasonable means of punishment. READ THE BIBLE and then maybe you'll understand why kids want no affiliations with GOD. You can still be godless and be a good person. Get to know the people you so harshly judge. You may be surprised.