Assassin’s Creed Video Game Mocks Bible and Christians

If you’ve watched any television lately, you will have most likely seen a commercial for Assassin’s Creed III, the latest version of an extremely popular video game.  As of February of 2012, the two earlier versions had sold over 38 million copies.  AC3 takes place before, during and after the American Revolution and if it is anything like the earlier versions of the game, it will mock anything Christian or patriotic to do with George Washington and other historical figures.

Version 1 and 2 of Assassin’s Creed are full of mockery of the Bible and Christians.  For example, in AC1, they introduce a bartender named Desmond Miles who is a descendent of a long line of assassins.  He is forced to use a machine that sends him back in time to different periods and events.  At one point, he has a conversation with a scientist:

“Scientist: “Anyone can write a book and they can put whatever they want on its pages.  Anything!  Use to be we thought the world was flat.”

Desmond Miles: “Some people still do.”

Scientist: “Yes.  And they publish books about it.  Or that the moon landing was a hoax.  I believe that there’s also a book that claims that world was created in seven days.  A best seller too.”

Desmond Miles: “Where’s this going doc?”

Scientist: “The point I suppose is that you shouldn’t trust everything you hear, everything you read.”

In the game, they introduce a weapon known as the Pieces of Eden.  They use this weapon to brainwash and control the people.  At one point in the game, they actually reveal that the Pieces of Eden is the Word of God – the Bible.  It is used in the game to deceive and control mindless people.

The game also says that the Red Sea was never parted and that Moses used the Pieces of Eden to lead the people.  In a reference to the New Testament, it says that the water was never turned into wine and it shows Jesus on the cross holding a Piece of Eden.

In another layer of the game, the opponent is the Pope who says that he took the position to gain power and that he doesn’t believe in the Bible because it’s just a book written by men and is full of lies and superstitions.

Throughout AC1 and AC2, Christians, the Bible and God/Jesus are mocked and ridiculed.   With millions and millions of copies of this game being sold to our young people, they are the ones being brainwashed by the video game into rejecting God, Jesus and the Bible.  For all intent and purpose, the game might as well be called Satan’s Creed as such vile lies can only come from him.

A good friend of mine, and former colleague, Carl Kerby posted a 9 minute video clip on his ministry’s website that talks about Assassin’s Creed.  I highly recommend you take the time to watch it and show it to your family and friends and urge them to stay away for this anti-Christian video game.  If any of your children, grandchildren, nephews or nieces ask for this game for Christmas, please share this with them and direct them to something more Godly and uplifting.


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  • Screeminmeeme

    This is one of the newest weapons in Satan's arsenal used to condition and brainwash the malleable minds of our youth, adding to the growing godless multitude.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

      They (preachers) dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subversions of the duperies on which they live." -Thomas Jefferson

      • Bimbam

        He had a lot of time to spend on secular thinking with slaves doing all his durty work.

        Had he worked the fields himself he might have been a more humbled man instead of an all-knowing spoiled brat moron spouting a man's secular ignorance.

    • Mikeee

      Down with the oppressive religions of the world, and yes, that includes the bloodiest religion on the planet.......christianity

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YMJUHF4UNZWSLIDRXPSSTOHA3Q Shane

        Islam is by far the bloodiest religion in the history of mankind, you moron. Islam is a religion of war created to justify the Arab conquests and to unite the Arab empire. Christianity is a religion of peace founded by the prince of peace Jesus, but violence has been done in its name. Islam was created as a religion of war by the warlord and a womanizer, Muhammad. Religion of Peace? http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

        Now now Muslims and Christians, settle down. Islam and Christianity don't have to fight over who gets to be the bloodiest. They both have more than enough violence in their histories to go around.

        • PennJim

          If you read either the bible or the koran you wouldn't make such an uninformed, ignorant, and otherwise stupid comment. Christianity does not call for conversion by the sword as does the Islamist koran. If Christians had historically followed the new testament teachings, there would be no blood on their hands. Conversley, if the Muslims had followed and continued to follow the teachings in the koran, there would be much more blood on their hands, and the world would be under one, muslim religion.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Wow, really? Tell that to the Priests who burned Pueblo Indians alive for not converting. Tell that to the victims of the Inquisition. You should really read some legitimate history outside of your Sunday school class.

        • Guest Poster

          And you should quit equating what a few people have done rather than tarring the hundreds of millions who haven't.
          Using the same reasoning, you'd have to be a witless imbecile simply because there was one somewhere in your ancestral line, probably about the time they came down out of their trees.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          If I understand your comment, you seem to think that I said all Christians are violent because some are. That's incorrect. What I said was that there is plenty of violence in Christian history. (didn't somebody just complain about people not being able to read?)

        • PennJim

          As I read what you wrote, "Islam and Christianity don't have to fight over who gets to be the bloodiest." Sounds like a generalization to me. It is exactly what you said. I read it too. Are you revising the history of your statement just like the revisionist history you have been reading?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Nope, that's an observation that both Christianity and Islam have plenty of violence in their histories. It's pretty specific, as opposed to generalizing.

        • apfl

          Did you know that the Catholic Church burned real Christians at the stake? They where considered heratics. The violent so called Christian history you speak of was committed by the Catholic Church which was anything but Christian

        • Shermer

          Do you mean "a few people" like Stalin, Pol Pot and Castro, rather than the millions of atheists who haven't?

        • APFL

          Christianity is based on Jesus Christ... Please show me a verse in the New Testament where Jesus orders a believer to Kill.

          If you cannot find one verse then you need to realize those priest that Kill and murder acted on their own behalf and did something that was not YHVH's Will, they where able to do this because they know not the father and are wolf in sheep clothing.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          So let me get your logic straight: Christians don't do bad things, therefore, Christians who do bad things aren't "real" Christians. Got it.

          If you rule out everyone who has ever acted out of line with Jesus' teachings as a Christian, then there are no Christians at all.

        • Guest Poster

          If they could read.... always the problem with these mindless idiots, isn't it?

        • Screeminmeeme

          PennJim...Right.

      • Bulldog74

        Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedung, Pol Pot, the Kims of North Korea, Fidel Castro, the French Revolutionaries...athiests all, responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of their own people. Yeah, no thanks...

        • Screeminmeeme

          Bulldog74....Right.

      • Bimbam

        No, communism, one of the greatest secular religion killed the greatest amount of people in modern history. Over 50,000,000 I think.

        Secular religion has been far a greater tragedy on mankind, through ignorance, poverty, wars, famine, etc. I"m sure you can add more if you think instead of imagine.

        • Guest Poster

          You can expect the latest in that line of communists and socialists to try and do the same in the next four years. Better hope he doesn't come for the weak minded first. (Probably won't because then he'd have no "useful idiots" to front for him.)

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          You do realize that secular and religion are antonyms, don't you? What you are trying to do is claim that goats are seafood, by redefining fish as goats. (think about it)

        • PennJim

          Communism is a religion. Atheism is a religion. Go read up on some definitions and don't just make up your own.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          You can't just make things true by demanding they are true. Religion (def.) The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.

          What now?

        • GetOutOfTheBubble

          Yeah all that not praying and not believing in any supernatural beings really feels like a religion to me.

          Just because you have a religion doesn't mean everyone does.

        • Screeminmeeme

          Bimbam....You're correct, according to the University of Hawaii.

          A popular urban legend is that religion has killed more people than anything else...that the world would be a lot more peaceful place were it not for the Christian religion. The top three largest examples are thought to be the Crusades of the Middle Ages, the Spanish Inquisition, and the burning of witches.

          These three events, totaling over 264,000 killed, are thought to be the largest atrocities perpetrated by one or another form of Christendom. However, they pale into insignificance in comparison to the consequences of atheism.

          Almost 50% of all the murders/genocide in human history were committed in the past 100 years by regimes that either actively promoted atheism or strongly discouraged religion. It is clear that atheism is the most dangerous philosophy ever embraced by humanity.

          And the most effective restraint on mankind's inherently evil tendencies is faith in God through Jesus Christ.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Screeminmeeme...your comment is plagiarized and entirely dishonest.

          Not only did you not write this, neither did anyone from the University of Hawaii. You appear to have cut and pasted your comment verbatim from an article written by Kirk Durston on the Emimaus Christian Ministry Page found here: (http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/21PbAr/Pl/DthByAthsm.htm).

          Furthermore, this is NOT related in any way to any University of Hawaii study, it is a popular Christian essay that in one place references a University of Hawaii professor's book called "Death By Government." Death by Government is not about comparing religion and atheism whatsoever. It provides an estimate of how many people have been killed through genocide.

          Here is the actual quote with reference from your plagiarized Christian essay, "According to University of Hawaii political scientist Rudolph J. Rummel, the total number killed in all of human history is estimated to be about 284,638,000." That is the only link to any University study.

          If you were in a university, your comment would constitute academic dishonesty and would lead to failure of the class and perhaps dismissal from the university. On this webpage it just indicates how you and many others are perfectly willing to be completely dishonest in the name of religion.

        • Screeminmeeme

          JD.....
          1. I'm not writing a serious paper or dissertation. We are not in a university setting but on a blog where casual conversation, thoughts, information, statistics, barbs, outrage and insults are exchanged freely without fear of censure or reprisal.

          My post was to Bimbam who was correct in saying that secularism has caused greater pain and suffering than Christianity when he responded to Mikeee's claim that Christianity was the bloodiest religion in history.

          Years ago I came across the Durston article and filed it away, along with an edited version which I use in my posts for the sake of brevity. I gladly provide more details if people are interested and have no interest in plagarizing anyone. My appologies to Dr. Durston, though, for my oversight.

          Durstin's extrapolations of the information in Rummel's book are correct: nearly 50% of all the murders/genocide in human history were committed in the past 100 years by atheistic regimes which strongly discouraged/punished religion.

          While I failed to attribute statements to Durston, I encourage interested readers to go to the the following websites and read the information and decide for themselves whether or not my comments were untrue.

          2. KIRK DURSTON, Ph.D. (Biosphysics), M.A. (Philosophy), B.Sc (Mechanical Engineering), B.Sc. (Physics) is the National Director of the New Scholars Society. He has publications in journals of philosophy and science journals.

          He wrote an essay entitled, '''Just How Many People Has Religion Killed?'' and used statistical information drawn from the book, ''Death By Government'' by Rudolph J. Rummel, Professor Emeritus of Political science at the University of Hawaii.

          PROFESSOR RUDOLPH J. RUMMEL's background :
          BA and MA from the University of Hawaii (1959, 1961); Ph.D. in Political Science (Northwestern University, 1963); Taught at Indiana University (1963), Yale (1964-66), University of Hawaii (1966-1995); now Professor Emeritus of Political Science, University of Hawaii. Received numerous grants from NSF, ARPA, and the United States Peace Research Institute.

          Received the Susan Strange Award of the International Studies Association for having intellectually most challenged the field in 1999.... the Lifetime Achievement Award 2003 from the Conflict Processes Section, American Political Science Association.... and the 2007 The International Association of Genocide Scholars' Award for Distinguished Lifetime Contribution to the Field of Genocide and Democide Studies and Prevention.

          An outspoken critic of COMMUNISM, Rummel has spent his career assembling data on collective violence and war with a view toward helping their resolution or elimination. He concluded that democracy is the form of government least likely to kill its citizens and that democracies do not wage war against each other.

          He also concluded that political mass murder grows increasingly common as political power becomes unconstrained...saying

          ''CONCENTRATED POLITICAL POWER IS THE MOST DANGEROUS THING ON EARTH."

          He strongly supports the current War on Terror and the Iraq War, and argues for argues for an intergovernmental organization of all democracies outside of the United Nations. He has also argued that there is a LEFTIST BIAS in some parts of the academic world.

          Rummel has been very critical of BARAK OBAMA, alleging that Obama is SEEKING TO DESTROY LIBERAL DEMOCRACY IN THE UNITED STATES. He believes that global warming is "a scam for power", and has opposed Obama's carbon-trading plan.

          3. You're using semantics to cloud the issue here and avoid the numbers.

          You said rightly that '' 'Death by Government' is not about comparing religion and atheism (ironically, it references Humanism in it's theoretical perspective)' ''.

          But...what is humanism and how does it differ from atheism?

          HUMANISM....
          A system of thought that rejects religious beliefs and centers on humans and their values, capacities, and worth (the Freedictionary.com)

          A rationalist outlook or system of thought attaching prime importance to human rather than divine or supernatural matters. (Oxford Dictionary)

          A system of thought that rejects religious beliefs and centers on humans and their values, capacities, and worth. (American Heritage Dictionary)

          A philosophy, world view, or lifestance based on naturalism-the conviction that the universe or nature is all that exists or is real. Humanism serves, for many humanists, some of the psychological and social functions of a religion, but without belief in deities, transcendental entities, miracles, life after death, and the supernatural......a joyous alternative to religions that believe in a supernatural god and life in a hereafter
          (http://www.americanhumanist.org/Humanism/Definitions_of_Humanism)

          Humanism, by definition, rejects the notion of God or any other supernatural being and attempts to develop an ethical framework without reference to a deity.

          ATHEISM:
          Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity, which implies that nothing exists but natural phenomena (matter), that thought is a property or function of matter, and that death irreversibly and totally terminates individual organic units. This definition means that there are no forces, phenomena, or entities which exist outside of or apart from physical nature, or which transcend nature, or are “super” natural, nor can
          there be. Humankind is on its own. (http://atheists.org/atheism)

          One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.(TheFreeDictionary)

          The difference between atheism and humanism? Barely negligible.
          While atheism is concerned for one specific issue (god's existence), humanism is a broad philosophical outlook toward life (without god's assistence or acknowledgement of Him).

          When you distill the concepts, it comes down to this: there is no God and man is on his own.

          Durstin rightly concluded that atheism (the foundation for Marxist, Communist governments) has killed more people in the past 100 years than all professing Christians every did.

          4. You hope to evade the facts by criticism of me. I think it's noteworthy that with all of your censorious tone, you've not refuted the numbers.

          You beg the question: WHO/WHAT was responsible for most of the genocides/murders in the past 100 years?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          If you're capable of all that, why did you choose to be disingenuous in the first place?

          Truth matters. Honesty matters.

        • Screeminmeeme

          JD.....
          1. Yep...honesty matters, and I was truthful in explaining my comments and I hope that other readers understand my intent. It's your choice to reject what I said.

          BTW.......As usual, you misrepresented what I said. I never said that science can't be trusted...or that university researchers are morons. Ever. THAT is a lie. What I have said is that

          *Science and Christianity are not mutually exclusive terms and

          *Scientists ought to be open and honest enough to welcome challenges and questions about their findings. They can be just as flawed and dishonest as other people. They are not infallible but your comments about them convey such a level of near-adulation that in your world, they are beyond the scrutiny of us mere mortals.

          2. Your accusations and disparagement of me won't change the facts about genicide driven by atheist-based ideologies. You even accuse Dursten of writing from a position of presupposition basically accusing him of bias or dishonesty. You are so blinded by hatred and contempt for Christians that according to your way of thinking, not one of them could ever speak the truth...not even well-educated ones. Of course no atheist holds presuppositions, do they?

          3. With all that display of moral rectitude and indignation, and having made yourself judge and jury, please.......what grounds your moral positions? What makes your moral views more than mere hunches, inklings or subjective opinions? Where do you get the moral authority to criticize or condemn anyone?

          To quote Chad Meister, professor of philosophy, Bethel College:
          ''On the atheist worldview, we are all merely evolved brutes whose very existence is derived from the naturalistic laws of evolution, including random mutation and survival of the fittest in which the strong survive and the weak die off (and sometimes the strong kill off the weak in their struggle for survival). Aren't we all simply the byproducts of a 'nature red in tooth and claw' to quote the poet Tennyson.

          Is it any wonder that the atheistic regimes of Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, Vladimir Lenin, and Pol Pot— devoid as they were of any significant Christian influence— were responsible for the mass murder of over 100 million people in their quest for dominance, more lives destroyed than in all of the religious wars in the history of the human race? These regimes were not discordant with an atheistic basis of morality; they were consistent with it.

          An atheist does not recognize the existence of a personal God. He is left with a closed natural order of physical causes. There can be no "oughts" in such a universe, only matter in motion. In such a universe, there could be no freedom of choice, since all behavior would be determined necessarily by random, mindless physical, biological, and chemical processes.

          Hence, "morality" would be a word without a referent because moral behavior entails free agency and personal responsibility. In addition, moral behavior requires true belief, that is, actual knowledge of moral truth. But no moral truth can exist in an atheistic world since there could be no transcendent value by which to measure our conduct.

          *In the end, if an atheist is to be consistent, he must never label any personal performance or the actions of another with a term of value. In a non-theistic world, behavior is only behavior.

          *Mother Theresa and Adolf Hitler share the same house, and Jeffrey Dahmer merits no moral sanction. Since no transcendent being exists, neither does any transcendent standard, and no moral judgment is possible either in this life or the next.

          What they will generally not admit, however, is that, when they make such claims, they are borrowing on the capital of theism whether they like it or not.

          The fact that even an atheist cannot help but make moral judgments and act as if there really is a transcendent source of morality is evidence of the recalcitrant image of God in man, and hence evidence for the existence of God himself.

          At the very least, an honest atheist must admit that the moment he makes a moral claim or invokes a moral rule his godless worldview collapses. ''

        • GetOutOfTheBubble

          Chad Meister's appraisal of morality comes from the mindset that you share - of an absolute morality that has been discovered.

          Whether or not there is free-choice is irrelevant at this point. We operate under the assumption that there is, because it is preferential for the time being.

          "In addition, moral behavior requires true belief, that is, actual knowledge of moral truth." This is the crux of the whole argument, and it's a matter of faith.

          You say you believe in absolute morality, but you choose how to interpret the bible differently than some other Christians. Who is right? Does having "the truth" mean you're always right, even when someone else is using the same source material as you? The same, supposed, absolute morality?

        • Shermer

          You forgot to add in all the people God killed. That should increase religion's tally a bit...

        • TheSunDidIt

          From a friend:

          What I Love About Communism is the Massive number of Eliminations they do after taking over to consolidate their Power. The only More Eliminating Philosophy in History is ISLAM. Islam's toil is 270,000,000, whereas Communism is only between 150,000,000 and 180,000,000.
          But Islam is spread out over 1,400 Years.

          Amnesty International years ago said that the number of Commie Eliminations, excluding war, was 180,000,000. But to Commies humans are only blobs of protoplasm, just like the Atheists they must be. Bill Ayers years ago in his Weather Murderers Underground estimated they would have to Eliminate about 25,000,000 Americans to consolidate their power. Go Commies! Go the He--!

          The Body Count of the Eliminations by country follows:
          Total Communist Body Count:
          149,469,610

          The following estimates represent citizens killed or starved to death by their own Communist governments since 1918. These numbers do not
          include war dead. The governments are sorted by body count (highest to lowest).

          All numbers are mid-estimates.

          People's Republic of China
          Body Count: 73,237,000
          1949-Present (57+ years and counting)

          Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
          Body Count: 58,627,000
          1922-1991 (69 years)

          Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic
          Body Count: 3,284,000
          1918-1922 (4 years)

          Democratic People's Republic of Korea
          Body Count: 3,163,000
          1948-Present (58+ years and counting)
          1,663,000 is attributed between 1948-1987 excluding the Korean
          War (Rummel 1994). 2,500,000 is the mid-estimate for those who starved to death between 1995-1998 (U.S. Committee for Human Rights in North Korea 2006).

          Cambodia
          Body Count: 2,627,000
          1975-1987 (12 years)
          The body count estimate is complete (Rummel 1994). The offical
          country name was Democratic Kampuchea during Pol Pot's reign and then known as People's Republic of Kampuchea afterwards.

          Democratic Republic of Afghanistan
          Body Count: 1,750,000
          1978-1992 (14 years)
          The body count estimate is complete (Courtois 1999).

          Vietnam
          Body Count: 1,670,000
          1975-Present (30+ years and counting)
          The body count covers the years 1945-1987 for Vietnam/North
          Vietnam and excludes 1,062,000 from the Vietnam War (Rummel 1994).

          People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia
          Body Count: 1,343,610
          1974-1991 (17 years)
          The body count includes 10,000 political assasinations during
          1977-1978, 1,000 children killed in 1977, 110 massacred in an Orthodox church in 1975, 80,000 during the civil war between 1978-1980, 250,000 that died in 1982 through Transit Camps, and 2,500 killed in a bombing raid (Courtois 1999). Another 1,000,000 is added for the famine during 1984-1985 (BBC News 2000).

          Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
          Body Count: 1,072,000
          1945-1992 (47 years)
          The body count only covers the years 1945-1992 excluding 100,000
          from the Tito Partisans between 1941-1944 (Rummel 1994).

          Chinese Soviet Republic
          Body Count: 700,000
          1931-1934 (3 years)
          The body count only includes the Jiangxi and Fujian provinces (Chang 2005).

          Although Mozambique has 700,000 to its name, the Chinese Soviet Republic produced more bodies in a shorter time period and the estimate is low.
          People's Republic of Mozambique
          Body Count: 700,000
          1975-1990 (15 years)
          100,000 civilians murdered between 1986 and mid-1988 (Young 1991) and 600,000 starved to death between 1975-1985 (Courtois 1999).

          Socialist Republic of Romania
          Body Count: 435,000
          1947-1989 (42 years)
          The body count only covers the years 1947-1987 (Rummel 1997).

          People's Republic of Bulgaria
          Body Count: 222,000
          1946-1990 (44 years)
          The body count only covers the years 1948-1987 (Rummel 1997).

          People's Republic of Angola
          Body Count: 125,000
          1975-1992 (17 years)
          The body count only covers the years 1975-1987 (Rummel 1997).

          Mongolian People's Republic
          Body Count: 100,000
          1924-1992 (68 years)
          The body count only covers the years 1924-1987 (Rummel 1997).

          People's Socialist Republic of Albania
          Body Count: 100,000
          1946-1991 (45 years)
          The body count only covers the years 1944-1987 (Rummel 1997).

          Republic of Cuba
          Body Count: 73,000
          1961-Present (45+ years and counting)
          The body count only covers the years 1959-1987 (Rummel 1997).

          German Democratic Republic
          Body Count: 70,000
          1949-1990 (41 years)
          The body count only covers the years 1948-1987 (Rummel 1997).

          Socialist Republic of Czechoslovakia
          Body Count: 65,000
          1948-1990 (42 years)
          The body count only covers the years 1948-1968 (Rummel 1997).

          Lao People's Democratic Republic
          Body Count: 56,000
          1975-Present (31+ years and counting)
          The body count only covers the years 1975-1987 excluding 47,000
          war dead (Rummel 1997).

          Hungarian People's Republic
          Body Count: 27,000
          1949-1989 (40 years)
          The body count only covers the years 1948-1987 (Rummel 1997).

          People's Republic of Poland
          Body Count: 22,000
          1948-1989 (41 years)
          The body count only covers the years 1948-1987 (Rummel 1997).
          Excludes 1,585,000 from ethnic cleansing between 1945-1950 (Rummel 1994).

          People's Democratic Republic of Yemen
          Body Count: 1,000
          1969-1990 (21 years)
          The body count only covers the years 1969-1987 (Rummel 1997).

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Yeah, remember that time that Moses consolidated the power of the Israelites? What did he do again? Oh yeah,

          After finding that only every male had been killed, Moses (and presumably God) ordered them to also "Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." Exodus 31

      • apfl

        Lol...that was funny AND incorrect. It was so incorrect it seems trollish in nature because it is so far from the truth.

      • jd1958

        Mikeeee......you're confusing Christianity with Roman Catholism. The Roman Cahtolic Church is responsible for the crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. Do some research before showing the world how ignorant you are. Thank you.

      • TheSunDidIt

        Unless you're accusing Christianity for winning WWI and WWII and freeing people all over the globe, then I think you mean the athiests. That is the religion of the communists and socialists (which included Hitler's crowd). Jesus may demand that I pray for you but, that does not mean I have to like or accept anything about you until you've been born again. It isn't easy to hate the sin and love the sinner; especially with sinners like you.

    • Evermyrtle

      Teaching children the true values must begin at home. Every parent with school age children should think very seriously about home schooling your children. If you teach them you know what they are getting, when they enter into government officials HANDS every day, you do not know what they may be taught.They likely will be forbidden to breath the name JESUS. I would like to know, "Why is this?" They do not believe in him but neither do they believe in Dick Tracy, Snoopy, or King King and those names are alright. So what is the problem?? Are they scared of HIM. Not having HIS name mentioned will protect them. This is CRAZY!!!

      One man said to be able to home school his children, they did not buy new clothing except what was needed for growing children, they did not buy a new car, they did not take vacation, did not buy choice selections of meat, just to be able to homeschool. He an his wife were dedicated, to give the best to their children. With dedication we can do it.

      • TheSunDidIt

        Yes, they are afraid of Him, with whom they have to deal. They are condemned already and know it but, will not admit it. They refuse to repent because that would mean that they can't "fix themselves". It is pride.

      • Eklypce

        It is not fear. It is our right as human beings to have our own faiths and beliefs. The freedom to make our own choices. Your forceable ways are the reason schools no longer promote religion. People like you destroyed the true meaning of god.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

    Scientist: “Yes. And they publish books about it. Or that the moon landing was a hoax. I believe that there’s also a book that claims that world was created in seven days. A best seller too......“The point I suppose is that you shouldn’t trust everything you hear, everything you read.”

    Who knew they were teaching critical thinking skills in video games these days? Better watch out Christians, as you all well know, the secret to making people accept religious dogma is to convince them never to never question it.

    "Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense." Chapman Cohen.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

      In reality, these perspectives are pretty accurate concerning the beliefs of many of our forefathers around the time of the Revolution - especially the most prominent ones. In contrast to what fundamentalists claim about the Christian ideals of our founding fathers, they were products of the Enlightenment - a philosophy that promoted reason over faith. But don't trust me, listen to their own words:

      "Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson

      "What has been Christianity’s fruits? Superstition, Bigotry, and Persecution". – James Madison

      "I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies." -Benjamin Franklin

      "The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity." -John Adams

      "I have generally been denominated a Deist, the reality of which I never disputed, being conscious I am no Christian" -Ethan Allen

      "The story of Jesus Christ appearing after he was dead is the story of an apparition, such as timid imaginations can always create in vision, and in credulity believe." -Thomas Paine

      ""There is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science and literature. Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness." -George Washington

      So, sorry but it is entirely historically accurate to have an educated American revolutionary promoting reason over religion in this game, and being generally suspicious of religious dogma.

      Cue howling and misinformation from Christian revisionists....

      • PennJim

        Ok. You have conveniently ignored many affirmative statements that our founding fathers made for the judeo-christian ideology. From where has the concept of our government come? Islam, Hindu, New Age, wicca? Also do not confuse religion with Christianity. Religion gets it wrong every time.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Greece and France. That's where the concept of our government came from. Read some history.

        • Bulldog74

          The whole thesis of the Declaration is that men are endowed BY THEIR CREATOR with inalienable rights, i.e., rights that man cannot be taken away.
          Read it again and get a clue.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          "their creator" was specifically chosen because it can mean anyone's idea of who created them - the god of their choice or no god at all.

          It is your own religious bias that twists "their creator" to mean "Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior"

          It also refers first to the Laws of Nature and then to Nature's God (which is a Deist concept, not Christian)

          Read some history and get a clue yourself.

        • Bulldog74

          “And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.”
          Well, I feel bad for the ones who were putting their firm reliance on the protection of no god at all…nice try, Jim
          By the way, the concept of Nature’s God may be found in the first chapter of Romans among other places.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          If all you read is the bible, and all the religion you have ever studied is Christianity, then you probably do believe "Providence" and "Nature's God" are strictly Christian concepts. They are not.

        • Bulldog74

          Actually I have been pretty extensively exposed to Islam, Hinduism and other systems of religious thought, having worked for extended periods in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain, Egypt, Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, Korea, Vietnam and India, along with Tanzania, Kenya and Uganda...during these times, I’ve discussed matters of faith with colleagues and acquaintances as frankly as prudence and visa stipulations allow.
          So I didn’t mean to imply that these concepts are exclusively Christian.
          My point was basically that it would be pretty dumb to rely on protection from something or someone in whom you don’t believe (the atheistic view), or on someone who basically has no interest or who doesn’t intervene in human affairs (the deist view as I understand it, correct me if I’m wrong).
          I don’t dispute that some of the Founders were deists or even non-believers. But I think it’s a bit of a reach to say that the Christian beliefs of others were immaterial to the country’s foundations.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Very well, and I appreciate your articulate evaluation, but I should clarify that I am not claiming that Christianity was immaterial to our foundations. My whole point is that is not historically inaccurate to portray people questioning and even criticizing religion during the Revolutionary War. Pretending that it is inaccurate is an attempt to deny history. Everything else follows from that.

        • Bulldog74

          Point taken, and I agree that people --of whatever viewpoint-- err when they try to justify that viewpoint by projecting it onto historical figures. Appreciate the dialogue, and apologies for being snide in my initial reply.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Right on. It's easy to get carried away in these things - that's part of the stress release, I guess. My apologies, too. I agree about projecting viewpoints onto historical figures, but there is a reality out there and some interpretations are closer and some are farther from that reality. I would hope to zero in closer and closer on that reality.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          I would also point out that Providence can refer to the laws of nature, and it is very much in the Deist tradition to consider yourself provided for by the laws of nature.

        • Guest Poster

          Difficult, isn't it? Trying to educate the uneducated and, apparently, uneducable.

        • Bimbam

          Ahh, so we were doomed from the start!

          Many also proclaimed that God's hand was in America also, despite not putting it in secular writing. But, ahh that was for the Christian churches to do. An affirmation not to "nationalize" religion because they were so many competing denominations.

          Aye, all for one - one for all.

        • Guest Poster

          Apparently you can't read. The extant texts and documents of that time are VERY much full of references to God, and how strongly the people of the time believed He aided them in what common sense knew was a totally lost cause.

          IF you want to disabuse yourself of error, start by reading all of General and President George Washington's letters and papers.

          Should you be able to handle the language of the time, you can then progress to any of the thousands of texts and documents that were written then. And all secular in how the related to NOT having a GOVERNMENT ESTABLISHED RELGION which ALL would have to follow. The DIRECT comparison would be that of the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church of France- both countries of which prohibited the practice of any other religion- hence the prohibition on any GOVERNMENT established religion.

          The famous, and so totally misunderstood, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.."was simply intended to prevent CONGRESS from establishing a religion for the nation. Nothing more, nothing less, and why the words "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" followed which said that Congress cannot prevent ANYONE from following the religion of their choice. Which, of course, is precisely what the "Affordable Health Care Act" is going before the Supreme Court for. THAT part of Obamacare is most definitely a violation of the 1st Amendment.
          Wouldn't be surprised if the SC caused a Civil War by declaring it anything BUT a clear violation of the 1st Amendment.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          You keep moving the goalposts. I never said our founders were atheists, I never claimed they did not reference God or even Jesus in their writing. Perhaps YOU should learn to read. I simply said Christ is not mentioned anywhere in our official founding documents, and that in the US Constitution no God is ever mentioned, and religion is never referenced except in the First Amendment. Are you claiming I am wrong about those things?

          And as for the First Amendment being misunderstood, the US Supreme seems to agree with my understanding over yours every time.

        • PennJim

          "I and the Father are One", "If you have seen me you have seen the Father". These were men with Christian backgrounds, mentioning a Creator was mentioning God as it was also mentioning Christ Jesus (and the Holy Spirit too). Maybe you need to do a little unbiased reading yourself about the rulings of the supreme court in this matter. And go back beyond 1999.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Bullshark! The words they chose were very deliberate. They painstakingly went through numerous drafts, debating every phrase. If they meant to write "Jesus" they would have written "Jesus." You are projecting your personal wishes upon history.

        • WISHFORLIBERTY

          Jim, you just lost me on your engagement with having offered up the supreme circus court's " opinion ". Our Constitution and bill of rights are not an interpretive set of documents, it is a clear guide, with scope and depth, clear, as it was intended to chain the hands of this oppressive form of human intervention we call the federal government. I just finished reading our founding documents. It is clear we are now in the dead thick of the warnings declared 235 years ago. It was refreshing to have an individual with firm conviction on a course like this, then you went off to concur undeserved interpretations.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          If our documents are not interpretive, why do we have the Judicial Branch?

        • WISHFORLIBERTY

          Mr. Hamilton said it best I believe....
          " It not only serves to moderate the immediate mischiefs of those which
          may have been passed, but it operates as a check upon the legislative
          body in passing them; who, perceiving that obstacles to the success of an iniquitous intention are to be expected from the scruples of the courts, are in a manner compelled by the very motive of the injustice they mediate, to qualify their attempts. "

          Within this statement the intention of the supremes have been prostituted to the extent mentioned. It is from this definition my adjudication comes.

        • Guest Poster

          Actually, your history and perceptions are totally screwed up. As usual. The French were a monarch and their revolution started AFTER ours ended. As for Greece, they were intentionally NOT chosen since their system failed. There were NO prior Constitutional Republics of any nature in all of history.

          As far as your second ignorant comment, anyone living at the time the Constitution was written FULLY understood that all references made to LIBERTY were directly attributable to God who they believed gave them that Liberty. (Incidentally, you might want to look at the closing lines, since a secular group would not have used the term "In the Year of our Lord" as a reference point.

          Liberty, as referenced above, comes from the Declaration of Independence, where it is prominent in why the Colonists separated from England.

          "The Laws of Nature, and of Nature's God", "Almighty", "Creator", ALL are references to God, and virtually everyone living at the time knew it. The people were universally literate, and the vast majority of them were Christian as well. A large percentage of the population came from England- the Church of England. Another large group from France- the Catholic Church. Many from Scotland- Calvinists. From Germany- Lutherans. There are more.. but they all were "Christian" denominations, except for the diasporan Jews. But then, they ALSO believed in God.
          So what's my point? Simply that when you make such an incredibly large error in your premise, your conclusion is even further from fact. And truth.
          Perhaps you need to go back to learn to read (a lot) better. When you have done that you might well be able to handle the thousands of documents and texts of the time which so clearly prove your errors.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          "The people were universally literate..."

          Speaking of incredibly large errors in your premise, that is so laughably absurd that it calls into question anything you might write.

      • Bimbam

        This just shows me more and more we are like the OT Israelites. So we indeed are them as the Bible shows, despite the incredulous and undeniable blessing God has given U.S.

        Thank YOU for the enlightenment!!!

      • WISHFORLIBERTY

        Yet Jefferson has also been credited for this, "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." and "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.". So to the contrary, your argument would be one of misplaced perceptions and malevolence, to point.

      • Guest Poster

        Surprise, surprise! One who selectively gives quotes taken OUT of the context that they were given in, you show just how much of a true fraud you are.
        If you wish to be factually correct, you must quote the entire passage in which you have so "cleverly" excise that part which was being brought down to ridicule. Truly a shame that you couldn't get into a class where you could learn to state your arguments cohesively and concisely enough to persuade others rather than deceive yourself. Such a failure. But then, fully representative of the intellectually stunted "graduates" of the country's failed school systems.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Yup, that's the howling and misinformation I predicted...

      • Screeminmeeme

        Anyone with an iota of knowledge about the Founding Fathers know that most of them were Christians, and many eschewed and were critical of the clergy, their dominance and tradition of lording it over parishoners. They believed and were committed to the fundamentals of the Gospel.

        Science and knowledge are not the enemies of Christianity and certainly not mutually exclusive terms.

        PS..Ben always was a little rebellious.

        • Pastafarian

          Knowledge was the forbidden fruit that caused the fall of man, expulsion from paradise, and the automatic guilt of all humans through original sin.

      • Screeminmeeme

        “I never doubted, for instance, the existence of the Deity; that he made the
        world, and govern’d it by his Providence;that the most acceptable service of God
        was the doing good to man; that our souls are immortal; and that all crime
        will be punished, and virtue reward, either here or hereafter.”
        —Benjamin Franklin

    • PennJim

      I agree but that they are 'gods' and not God you are talking about.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

        Um, the Christian god is one of thousands believed in around the world that people are just as certain of as you are. He is one of the ones both Cohen and I are talking about.

        And this quote is the reason that the only real obstacles to science education come from the Christian right (or in other countries, the Muslim right). Critical thinking skills are the enemy of both religion and conservatism. Don't believe me? Why did the Texas GOP literally make limiting the teaching of critical thinking skills in public schools part of their platform? Why do fundamentalist Muslims limit the education people are allowed to have? The reasons are the same.

        • Guest Poster

          You have absolutely NO clue as to what the "Christian right" think! Your hubris is incredible!
          Quite trying to make fundamentalists out to be the sum of the Christian right. It isn't, hasn't been, and never will be. Even if idiots like you keep trying to say it is.
          As is so often said of people of your ilk: "Pardon, but your ignorance is showing."

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Why wouldn't I have a clue what the Christian right think? That's the culture I grew up in. Fundamentalism refers to groups that take their sacred texts to be the literal word of God. Does that not apply?

    • Guest Poster

      If science is so great, why is it that it cannot explain you? You write as if you were a sentient being but you aren't. Explain please.

    • PennJim

      Spewing quotes and the party line. Think for yourself, man.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

        The irony of that statement is astounding.

  • Mikeee

    SO WHAT, this is classic republican style bantering, if you truly believe in liberty and freedom this video is perfectly positioned in a society of free people, it may not be your cup of tea, but don't ever profess your love for freedom, and in the same breath condemn this video game........... If you do, you are a filthy hypocrite.

    • PennJim

      All are free to expouse whatever viewpoint they desire. I choose to believe that which I perceive as true. Likewise I do not give my money to such nonsense as this. Others can go ahead and mock God all they want, I am confident that He can handle whatever they dish out. There will be a time to give an accounting.

      • Guest Poster

        And in total rejection they will be sentenced to the lake of fire. Although not appropriate, kind of nice to visualize them there.

  • Bruiser

    All of these men are so much greater and intellegent than our God! Gee, I didnt know that.

  • disqus_RiKgBtmZQk

    Where is the outrage and the massive civil unrest and hanging people from bridges after burning them where is the Christian jihad . Ohhhhh I'm sorry that's because we are civilized , unlike the jihadists. But seriously where is Hillary Clinton and Obama and the media condemning this crap. PEOPLE WHEN WILL IT BE TIME TO TAKE A REAL STAND AGAINST THESE FAR LEFT WING RADICALS , WHERE DO I SIGN UP FOR THE REVOLUTION ARE THERE ANY MILITIAS NEAR MOORESVILLE, N.C 28117. And do they need any law enforcement officers to work under cover to keep an eye on what's going in in the inside. It's time people. From what I'm hearing from my law enforcement friends , they will not arrest people that are so called breaking the law that which is unconstitional.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

      Yeah Christians are never violent. By the way WHERE ARE THE CHRISTIAN MILITIAS SO I CAN SIGN UP AND TAKE A REAL STAND?

      • Guest Poster

        Can't tell you. You're not capable of following the directions if they were given to you direct from the voice synthesizer of a GPS unit. Might not even know what to do with the plug. And even if you did accidentally arrive where a group was, you're incapable of knowing which end to hold. (Actually, on second thought, that might not be so bad!)

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Guest Poster, I was parodying the comment above. Try to keep up.

      • PennJim

        That gun store in Arizona wouldn't sell you a gun anyway because you voted for Obama

        • Screeminmeeme

          PennJim...But dontchathing JD would make a great target poster?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Oh good, the "follower of Christ" is fantasizing about shooting me in the head. Anyway, what was that you were saying about how violence is not associated with Christianity.....

        • http://www.facebook.com/corum.s.smith Corum Seth Smith

          Yeah, his comment wasn't that smart. But you have been trying to start something all this time, so aren't you happy now? Also, there are a lot of secularists who will go to war with an increasingly inflexible, unjust taxing, tyranny. His outrage is less about Christianity and more about an unjust government. "No taxation without representation" was something both of us would agree Thomas Jefferson disliked.

        • http://www.facebook.com/smichaelwilson Scott Wilson

          So, he was just asking to be shot? Man, this love-thy-neighbor stuff gets tricky after awhile...

        • Screeminmeeme

          JD....Lighten up a bit........or are you so governed by concrete thinking that an abstract allusion is beyond your understanding? Don't attach YOUR sentiments to me. Based on the spite and animosity in your comments, if you had your way you'd see the entire Christian conservative movement dead and gone.

        • http://www.facebook.com/smichaelwilson Scott Wilson

          Yeah JD, lighten up! He's only making a lighthearted reference to shooting your likeness in effigy in a manner that many would consider a threat of violence. Take a joke, already!

      • Screeminmeeme

        JD...Hey....good idea....take a stand......stand real still now.....don't move......

        My friend, you wouldn't 'stand' a chance.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          ...and the Lord said unto them, "take careful aim, my children, and kill with great joy in your hearts."

          Screemin, I think your opinions are so disingenuous that you don't even realize when you are directly contradicting one of your other opinions. You don't really seem to have ever though things through.

        • Screeminmeeme

          JD...LOL.....You're a bit thin-skinned, aren'tcha? Are you that lacking in discernment? Really, you have no sense of humor.

        • http://www.facebook.com/smichaelwilson Scott Wilson

          Man, you are funny! Most people don't realize the true humor behind threatening to shoot somebody for their opposing viewpoints, but you really have it down to an art form. I'll bet you'd just kill on Leno!

  • jerry1944

    There are some in the GOP that dont care about ppl that are religious eather we saw that dureing the elections. The bible says beleaveing in Him would keep you on your toes looking out for false gods like the obambo want to be. Muslummms will try to bet GODS ppl and so will others that have false gods. But when the time comes the truth will out. Like now we must keep our standards and morals even if we lost eletions. In the end GOD will win

  • http://www.facebook.com/tncdel Tnc Del

    So what? Surely Christians aren't thin-skinned like Muslims. Just ignore the teasing.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

      Well said. The problem is that many of them are. They think their rights are being taken away every time they are not given special consideration. They think that private businesses should not be allowed to make games that don't promote their beliefs. They can have a church on every corner, the ear of every politician, and the power to dictate what facts are included in children's textbooks, and still howl about how they are being oppressed.

  • LostProton

    The game needs to be hacked and an online update issued that replaces references to God and Jesus with Mohammad. I guarantee that the game would be destroyed in less than a month. The producers would be bankrupt and all copies would he hunted down and destroyed as well. The Council on American-Islamic Relations is pursuing to have the publishing of the book the “Muslim Mafia” stopped and all copies withdrawn and destroyed. If you have a copy of the “Muslim Mafia”; you had better disavow any knowledge of the book and put it away where it cannot be located.

    • Guest Poster

      Actually, all they have to do is put in the word, Allah, and they're ALL dead meat.

  • Guest Poster

    If those who programmed AC3 want to find out just how "mindless" those they mock are, they're in for a rude surprise. Some of those "mindless" people are not only capable of, but very well might, believe that they may be doing the Almighty's work by putting an end to anymore AC games.

    • GetOutOfTheBubble

      The people who were responsible for the content weren't the programmers. The programmers are mostly mathematically inclined people focused on details you probably can't comprehend.

      You should actually check something out before you judge it. Godfatherpolitics.com has misinformed you (coming from someone who both makes video games and has played this one).

  • jmark

    As long as Christians fail to use the culture to spread the Gospel, we concede victory to the anti-Christs.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

      Maybe if folks just focused more on being Christ-like, and less on being socially and politically Christian, you would be more convincing. I'm not kidding here. This is meant as constructive criticism from the outside looking in.

      • Screeminmeeme

        JD....So.....you are saying that Christians ought to take your advice and violate their own moral code by not following the commands of their Savior who said that they are to be salt and light in an evil world by taking a stand for righteousness....and just sit back while you leftists ruin America? Jesus told his apostles to sell their robe and buy a sword. He was sending them into a Christ-rejecting world and apparently allowed them to defend themselves.

        Sorry, but Christians are to resist evil.... not submit to it.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Your righteous moral code apparently does not rule out bearing false witness. Why should anyone trust what you say?

        • Screeminmeeme

          JD...Nice try. :)

        • Mighty Heckler

          "Your righteous moral code apparently does not rule out bearing false witness." Umm...one of the Ten Commandments, which atheists are trying hard to get rid of, says, "You will not bear false witness." You fail.

        • http://www.facebook.com/smichaelwilson Scott Wilson

          I don't know about "try," I think he nailed you pretty good. Liar.

      • http://www.facebook.com/corum.s.smith Corum Seth Smith

        1.) You still haven't thoroughly refuted that atheism has a way higher body count.

        2.) To both parties: all body counts, ours or theirs, are regrettable.

        3.) You will never be convinced. You are an atheist for life. Your atheism obviously informs your social and political views and yet now you criticize a Christian for being a Christian?

        4.) Atheists hate Christians, especially Evangelicals. Some of that hate seems justifiable and deserved, but if you occupy the place of moral superiority to us, then you have an incredibly untenable position. "How can someone morally superior to me hate me more than I hate him?" Is what I think to myself.

        5.) The goal is first to trust Christ and then slowly to be transformed through prayer and spiritual discipline to be imbued with His character through the third person of the Trinity, the Spirit. Atheists may have a surprisingly functional knowledge of Christianity, but lack understanding the deeper theological tenets, the intertextual (convergence of multiple Scriptures) justification therein, and the cultural connects and disconnects that occur as a result.

        6.) If both atheists and believers kill people, doesn't this verify the statement, "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God?" Your only other out of denying this is making the naturalist claim that evil doesn't exist and that the only real reason for what we call "evil" are really evolutionarily deviant impulses in the brain that are to be occasionally expected.

        I went to a liberal arts school and majored in Philosophy. My department was one of the few that at least tried to be objective, but a lot of departments today are little more than atheist factories.. My general experience with you guys has been one of intellectual elitism, unnecessary aggression, being viewed upon with unwaivering suspicion and cynicism, and subtle attempts to yes, "evangelize" me to the other side. Many of your attitudes and methodologies bear striking resemblance to those of fundamentalists save the actual subject matter. I mean that sincerely, and not sarcastically. I know it is hard if not impossible to convey that online and there is no reason to trust my word, but it is true. I don't care whether you think it constructive, destructive, or hopefully, but not necessarily, instructive.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Hi Corum Seth Smith. Thanks for the articulate and thoughtful rebuttal - I can appreciate when things are thoughtfully considered, even if I am not in full agreement. I will try to give you the same in return for each of your points.

          1) I never claimed anything at all regarding body counts for religious or atheist regimes. This was never a debate I was engaged in. I honestly don't know the answer, but I suspect it's really difficult to decide who to call "atheist" (for example the worst regimes ban religion because they demand worship of themselves) and "religious" (individuals in any regime may be religious or not. Policy cannot dictate private beliefs). Anyway, this is not anything I ever set out to prove or disprove.

          2) I agree 100%. No exceptions, and our collective goal should be to find out how to avoid them in the future.

          3) Here I think you are stereotyping a bit. How do you know these things? I was a Christian for most of my life, and only gave it up when I found that there were some key things being told to me that were simply false. Once that happens, if someone is telling you that everything in the Bible is literally perfect, the whole house of cards comes down. Then, with education in logic (as you clearly have), I began to see the fallacies in much of religious thinking. You are probably right that I will never again be a Christian, but I gave up Christianity based on evidence. If I ever see real evidence for a deity, I certainly hope I would follow that evidence, too.

          4) You probably have a valid criticism here, though I wouldn't use the word "hate." I do have a big problem with evangelical social and political agendas, and I won't deny that. But your point is well-taken that my comments on this board (not so in real life) can tend toward hateful.

          5) This is one of those fallacies I referred to above. Any philosophy that requires one to first believe and then seek evidence is probably relying on the placebo effect and the power of suggestion.

        • Screeminmeeme

          JD...
          ''I was a Christian for most of my life, and only gave it up when I found
          that there were some key things being told to me that were simply false.
          Once that happens, if someone is telling you that everything in the
          Bible is literally perfect, then the whole house of cards comes down.''

          1. HOW did you know they were simply false and not passages of scripture that you simply hadn't reconciled...yet? With your level of critical thinking that you are always talking about, didn't you bother to delve into some scholarly writings about those problematic passages? Or ask the Lord to reveal the truth to you?

          In my experience, I've found that many who have left the faith confused or disheartened were either not good students of the Bible, or had never studied the Bible by rightly dividing it, as Paul had advised. Many are duped by the charisma of religious leaders.

          If you know the Bible well, then you can instantly recognize false doctrine when you see it. I hope you didn't throw Jesus out with the bathwater just because of the false teachings on one church or leader.

          2. Being born again is an irrevocable change. Every new Christian is indwelt by the Holy Spirit, baptized into the Body of Christ, sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption, blessed with all spiritual blessings, seated with Christ in heavenly places, accepted in the Beloved, imputed with Christ's righteousness, and complete in Him. These are all positional truths experienced by every Christian.

          The Bible says that no genuine Christian leaves the faith.

          1Jn 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

          Those who do, were not really genuine Christians, but posers.

          Christ even said the no one could pluck one of His from His Father's hand. (John 10:28) and the true believer shall never come into condemnation.(John 5:24) God promises to perform the work He started in you. (Phil 1:6)

          Many claim to be Christian because of familial ties to a particular religious sect, because of peer pressure or pressure from family, because they like being part of the group, or because they intend to deceive people. Many like the teachings of Christianity but when they identify themselves as Christians and are faced with a Christ-hating world of opposition, like Mark (Acts 15), they leave because they can't face the heat.

          Seems to me that you like a good fight, so I would imagine that if you had been a genuine Christian, you would have been an ardent defender of the faith.

        • GetOutOfTheBubble

          "4.) Atheists hate Christians, especially Evangelicals."

          Why even bother saying things like this? I'm going to assume that as a reasonable person you don't think all atheists hate Christians and Evangelicals. So how many do? Which ones? At the point that you can't describe which atheists you are and aren't talking about, you're just talking about people in general.

  • ,,,

    LOL you Christians make me laugh.. "No it wasn't created in 7 days... it was in 6!" hahahahah, then "The bible CONFIRMS IT" lol, The bible confirms NOTHING because it's a fake book created by ancient men.

  • Conservative College Girl

    Wow! I've seen and heard these quotes/scenes before, from playing all of these Assassin's Creed games recently (I'm currently playing AC III), but this article and video seems to be a major eye-opener. I was under the impression that the protagonists (Altair, Ezio, etc.) were the heroes of freedom and religious virtues, fighting against the Templars, the people who intend to use and condemn Christianity for their own vile purposes. However, this article/video made me think that perhaps the ENTIRE game is an anti-Christian message.

    Now, I don't know about the whole process of brainwashing and controlling the mindless youth through this game. I must not be affected by it. I'm 22 years old, I've been playing video games like this and similar (perhaps more child-friendly) games for most of my life, and yet I still retain my conservative and Christian values. I also understand that this video game is fiction, a creative interpretation of history that exercises freedom of expression. While the underlying message of Assassin's Creed may be offending (which, I'm sure it is to many people - even I find it somewhat disturbing), I still view Assassin's Creed as a GAME, a form of ENTERTAINMENT and not something that is going to indoctrinate me (and hopefully not others).

    • GetOutOfTheBubble

      "However, this article/video made me think that perhaps the ENTIRE game is an anti-Christian message." Which is just absolutely not the case, there are so many things going on in this game, but some people just want to be offended, just want to make things out to only be negative.

  • http://www.facebook.com/justin.snyder2 Justin Snyder

    In case you never played these games, the first sentence you see is that the developers are not one religion or group of people, but multicultural and of varying beliefs.
    Also, IT IS A GAME!

  • 1PierreMontagne1

    You are claiming that the game mocks the Bible, and give examples of;
    "world not created in seven days" ,
    "no parting of the red sea",
    "water never turning into wine".
    Don't blame the game. It's a game.

    But wake up!
    What you are blaming the game for has been preached in the Presbyterian, Episcopalian, Anglican, Catholic and a host of other churches even Mormon and Mennonite Assemblies! for the past 30 years!
    Jesus says if you cannot believe what Moses wrote then you cannot believe me. The Liberal churches are mocking what Christ has said and what he has done!

    You are blaming a game?

    The game is just inlcuding popular liberal theology of the past three decades! Unfortunately most of the games users who attend church already believe this nonsense in teh game because that is consistent to what they have already been hearing and are taught from the pulpit !
    It is unfortunate that evanglelicals are only just waking up to what has been going on outside of their comfort zone for so long.

    I agree with the concern you raise - but to think that the game is a problem is to be self deluded
    The game is not departing from what is already taught as fact in Traditional Liberal Christian Churches and even a lot of Evangelical Free churches.
    Blame the apostacy that is so popular amongst all the churches blaming the game is a waste of teh short time you have left.

  • DavidE

    Have fun and games, mock the Bible, the Lord will have the last laugh.

  • Bobby

    Thanks for this, I am now returning this piece of garbage and won't allow my kids to be any part of this nonsense.

  • Ecoplastican

    ...and you thought prophecy was not reality?

  • GetOutOfTheBubble

    Since everyone here is being MISLED to believe this entire game has some kind of anti-Christian message:

    One of the things the player can do is build a homestead. How does he do that? By rescuing patriots from oppression by local English forces. By giving a priest a place to start a new congregation, and then, paying for the construction of a church for him and your homestead!

    You're getting your information from a biased source that doesn't paint the whole picture, only the parts it wants to complain about.

    What else happens? You take place in the boston tea party! I thought you guys around here would love that?

  • CARLjr

    I am happy to see that someone who posted has actually played the game. I'm sure that most people here have never seen these types of games.

    They are like movies - except interactive - and way longer. It is not uncommon for a game like this to take 70-80 hours to complete. They are long works of fiction, with action (gameplay) as the focus. Writing a 80 hour action movie has got to be tough, especially when you are trying to do something original. There are only so many zombie, alien, and soldier games you can play before you are bored with the whole thing. This is a creative plot - a FICTIONAL rivalry and battle between the Knights Templar and the Order of Assassins. The war spans centuries - from the Middle Ages, through the Renaissance, and now Colonial America and into modern times. The player plays an Assassin. There are complex plots - but what do you expect with literally hundreds of hours of gameplay?

    From the wiki:
    The Assassins Creed:
    1. Stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent.
    2. Hide in plain sight
    3. Never Compromise the Brotherhood
    The three ironies:
    1. The Assassins seek to promote peace, but commit murder.
    2. The Assassins seek to open the minds of men, but require obedience to rules.
    3. The Assassins seek to reveal the danger of blind faith, yet practice it themselves.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Paul/100002831657429 Zachary Paul

      assassins dont murder they kill bad guy's

  • Phillip Gray

    Well its a video game that is not for children to begin with, because of the featured violence, blood & gore. I'm in the middle of playing it right now & AC3 is actually a relatively patriotic game. Of course it does feature that the events in the Bible were a product of an alien device known as the "piece of eden" or "the apple". I don't agree with that view, as I am a Christian, I believe strongly in Christ, but I understand that this game is fiction, the Bible is not. Granted, I probably would never have played the 1st game had I known the basis for the story. But, the gameplay was good, I enjoyed the historical aspect, as the creators do an interesting job of combining history & fantasy. I don't believe in the mythologies of Greece & Egypt either, but as a child, I always found the stories interesting to read & learn about, mainly because I'm a student of history... I mean "the Iliad" & "the odyssey" are great literary classics & most people would agree with that assessment. Homer took real events & real people & combined them with the mythology of the day, which had no basis whatsoever in fact & they're still celebrated today as classics. I also just got interested in finding out how the story plays out. But to each his own though lol

  • jd1958

    And power was given to him to make war with the saints and overcome them. Here is wisdom and the patience of the Saints. Those leading the captives go into captivity. When the world makes war on you, remember it Hated Christ too. Christians being led into captivity and/or to their deaths are actually being set free to be with the Lord. Those leading them into captivity in the end become captives of GOD ALMIGHTY and are thrown into the Lake of Fire.

  • http://twitter.com/midas2800 Bill Richter

    MAY ALL OF YOU VERMEN ROTT IN HELL....GOD WILL STRIKE YOU AND YOURS DOWN TO THE BOWLES OF HELL FOR TIME ........I BELIVE AND LOVE GOD FOR ALL TIME.....MY LIFE IS HIS!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

      This, hands down, is my favorite post of all.

      • GetOutOfTheBubble

        You can see all the love he has for everyone.

  • forrealcommonsense

    No true Christian would entertain that junk, people should boycott any product that the corporation makes or produces and put the tv stations that carry their ads on notice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roscoe-Bonnifitucci/100000459519027 Roscoe Bonnifitucci

    This is a First Rate Rebuttal of the Secular Progressive's doctrine of "No God but The State". Well done. I was considering purchase of this Video Game but now will not touch it as it clearly bears the mark of a Satan within its composition. The use of Scripture Verse is 2nd to none. Thank you for this Exposition.

  • John Tashjian

    Great! Wonderful! Terrific! As if I don't already have to deal with the subtle atheism that my own dad has tried to browbeat me with for the past thirty-nine years just to try to force me away from my religious faith, the "Assassin's Creed" video game trilogy comes along. I just wonder whether or not the parents of this video game trilogy's creators ever told them about the damaging dangers of repeating the Big Lie one to many times.

  • TheSunDidIt

    Jesus said that in the last days those on the earth would be sent a strong delusion so that they DO NOT repent, that they might be destroyed by God. This is just more of the "strong delusion" stuff. They've lost their earth and don't even know it. Jesus Christ reigns. Demons are so dumb; deceitful, but, dumb.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

      Then why will Jesus allow the demons to send a strong delusion in the first place?

      • Tabitha

        Honestly...the world will be so corrupt in the last days.

    • GetOutOfTheBubble

      This is just more of the "you're delusional" stuff.

      You're going to die on this planet with the rest of us. Stop acting so superior.

  • charles darwin

    Right on! Religion is bullshit

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Paul/100002831657429 Zachary Paul

    this is the dumbest thing's ive ever read ,it say's before you start the game that is was made by a multicolored team of religious faith's and belief's and your making the game sound evil .for instance,they don't say anything about christianity being false or bad in fact,the main character in assassin's creed 2 ,brotherhood and,revelation's was a christian at one point his mother is seen praying for her dead son and he even say's at one point "may god be with you,ANYWAY! your making something out of nothing its just a game your not supposed to take it seriously.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Paul/100002831657429 Zachary Paul

    beside's im a christian and ive played every game (there are 8 by the way) 2 time's

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Paul/100002831657429 Zachary Paul

    also the reason why the main character "ezio" is trying to kill the pope is because he was greedy and selfish and ungodly

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Paul/100002831657429 Zachary Paul

    dang your making it sound worse and worse after i watched the video i realize how stupid you must be ...THE REASON HE SAYS ALL OF THIS IS BECAUSE HE IS THE BAD GUY .so i guess it's ok for god of war to mock zeus and hercules and all that other but OHHH make the bad guy say something about god and the world must know that this game will corrupt your children and there children into thinking that god was a fake??? i mean come on bro its not the game that's evil it's YOU

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Paul/100002831657429 Zachary Paul

    ok before i leave i read some comment's and i cant believe people are so gullible enough to listen to this jibberish of your's you are the true evil of this world not the game

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Paul/100002831657429 Zachary Paul

    If you were offended by the maker's of this game it was'nt intentional

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Paul/100002831657429 Zachary Paul

    assassins creed never bashes christianity at all the reasons that they say god wasnt real is because they were the bad guy's

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Paul/100002831657429 Zachary Paul

    also im going to keep buying the games anyway so ther's nothing you can do to stop anyone from buying the game

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zachary-Paul/100002831657429 Zachary Paul

    sorry about that to make up for it i made a picture for you called blue waffle on the internet showing that i didnt mean to call you stupid on the internet:3

  • Atlantan Assassin

    I don't even know how to respond. The game isn't "anti-Christian", it's simply introducing new ideas and theories. If I'm remembering correctly, the writers of the Bible were doing the same. Why is it so bad when others do the same? Die-hard Christians like you make a fool out of your own religion. The Assassin's Creed creators are a racially, culturally and religiously diverse team (they stated it in the beginning of most game consoles they were registered for. Probably to steer away people like you from making sites like this. Give it a rest, already. Just because they said "

    Scientist: “Yes. And they publish books about it. Or that the moon landing was a hoax. I believe that there’s also a book that claims that world was created in seven days. A best seller too.”

    Doesn't mean they meant JUST the Christian Bible. Jeez. They could mean the TORAH, which includes the reference that the scientist (Dr. Warren Vidic). How about we just end this religion vs. religion war (thought I doubt it will happen in my lifetime) people.

  • Eklypce

    Obviously you have not played the game or listened to it. it is fictisious and you are a fool to believe otherwise. You say this game is a corruption of minds but what makes you any different? Don't contradict yourself. Trying to force your beliefs down others throats. I believe in god but not people like you. You are a hypocrite, a liar anda shame to god. How dare you pass judgment on others when your book tells you to do otherwise.

  • Brandon Ross

    This is bull ubisoft was showin tht not everyone believes in the bible with the conversation with the scientists. The pieces of Eden symbolizes how powerful the unknown world is not a mockery to God. Lemme tell you the first part of the Assassins creed "we work in the dark we serve the light" hmm sounds like something evangelists would say. Assassins Creed is not of God but its not of the Devil as well. It is fruitless bearing no bad nor good fruit.

  • Tabitha

    The pope has nothing to do with christianity, it should NOT be associated with this article.
    That offends CATHOLICS. And let me tell you, there is a BIG difference between Catholics and Christians.

    If you don't want your children playing the game because of a conversation where someone said something mocking the bible, the BAD guys in fact...then might as well lock em up inside all day away from the real world! That IS the real world. People mock god everyday. It's horrible, but it's something we have to live with.

    And if you have to warn your family about CHRISTMAS...I'll just let you know.
    If you say Assassins Creed is the devil. Guess what? Christmas is celebrating the devil.
    Not saying this to argue, but to inform. No one needs to respond to this.

    Catholics created Christmas. Not christians.

    Catholics created it when they worshiped the Sun God...aka Saint Mary.
    Which is connected to ISLAM.
    Which is directly celebrating the DEVIL.
    The Sun God is basically the Devil. On the day Jesus was born the catholics were doing something with the Sun God, and named that day the day that Jesus was born, but it was really when they did a ritual of some sort with the sun god, and it apparently responded to them.

    Every year, christians who celebrate christmas think that they're celebrating Jesus. I have celebrated all my life, but now that I found out about this, I won't be even THINKING about it.

    It's very unfortunate all the misinformation Christians have...and lack of knowledge we have. Not our faults really. I still have a lot to learn, as do all of you.
    It's not an easy life.

    • Jay

      Tabitha, Christmas is a day in remembrance of the hope and joy God has given us through the birth of His son Jesus. Christmas is not a day about remembering Catholics or their traditions. Christmas is not even about christians, presents, or the sentimental holiday mood. It is about Jesus, and giving God all the glory He deserves, because of the love He's showed us by giving us Jesus, despite all of our depravity and sin. It shows God's mercy, it shows God's grace, it shows how great God's love is for us.

      I am saying this out of love, so I want to encourage you to remember God's love through Jesus in all of that - and not on people, Catholics, or traditions and rituals. People will ultimately fail you, the world might fail you, but God and His holy-spirit-inspired word will never fail you my friend. So stay strong in Christ.

      As for the game, as with anything else in the world, can have varying levels of influence on an individual - it just depends on the person playing it. For example, we wouldn't give beer to a recovering alcoholic, or offer a cigarette to someone who's trying to quit smoking for his family. However even for those of us who are spiritually strong in Christ, and not easily swayed, I wouldn't exactly say this game has an edifying love to it either way.

      1 Corinthians 10:23
      “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive.

      It may not be wrong to play AC, but it could be for the one easily influenced by the game's subtle (and sometimes obvious) implications. Yeah, a fruitless bearing like Brandon said below. Constructive? Nahh. Fun? Sure. After all, it is just interactive entertainment. I've played through them, doesn't change what I believe in one bit. Hasn't really helped with anything either, though.

      • Tabitha

        Thank you for that. But I still will not be celebrating Christmas. Jesus was not born on Christmas Day, but in the spring. I still stand by Christmas being a pagan holiday. I have some misinformation about the whole story. You can google it, but my grandmother has spent hours and days researching these types of things.

        • ToTripoli

          You are correct that Christmas is a pagan holiday. The date was set to December 25 by the Catholic Church several centuries ago; prior to that, it was celebrated in a different part of the year altogether. (Shepherds tending their flocks in winter, in the Middle East, equals a lot of sheep dead from the cold.)
          The Bible specifically states not to decorate trees & such, because that's what the pagans do.
          So at least that much is correct - and I'm proud of you for that, sincerely.

          I've been researching & studying religions of all sorts for years - almost as many as you've been alive. I think you might mean well, but you just had bad information.

    • hannah87

      Just FYI, Tabitha, neither Catholicism nor Islam existed at all at the time that Jesus was born. Seems like you should actually study the religions you claim to hate so much, instead of blindly hating them.

      • Tabitha

        I don't hate any religion. I have studied. Just gave some misinofrmation. You can google it to find out the truth for yourself.

    • ToTripoli

      -"Catholics aren't Christians," aka "No True Scotsman" fallacy-
      Please explain, then, why they worship Jesus as the divine son of God (the single & only defining characteristic of Christians as a whole), and why all the Protestant religions split off from Catholicism.
      Until Martin Luther split from the RCC, the ONLY Christian denominations were the Catholics & the Eastern Orthodox. You can try to re-write history all you want, but it doesn't make your fantasies true.

      Also, don't you people tend to include Catholics when you try to claim the US is a "Christian Nation"? Because if you discount them, the Christian majority is no longer the majority. Can't have it both ways, dearie.

      • Tabitha

        I'm not "you people". I'm 15. I'm not like some politic expert. I hate politics. I think everyone should just be happy and stop yelling at eachother for money.

        • ToTripoli

          You don't have to be a politics expert to know that Catholics are Christian.
          I agree that people should stop yelling at each other for money, but that didn't seem to be the point of your previous comment.

          Also, "you people" was referring to Christian fundamentalists. If you're not one, then you're simply misinformed. My apologies if that's the case.

    • Sionainne

      Tabitha, you are one of the most poorly informed humans I have ever come across online, and that is truly saying something. If you ever wish to learn the truth about christian holidays (how they were ripped off from pre-existing Pagan traditions, not Muslim), please feel free to ask me. Until then, please be aware that you have been fed a crock, not only of bad theology, but of bad history as well.

      • Tabitha

        I gave some misinformation, I posted that a while back but I still stand by pagan holidays. I am only 15 (or will be on December 2nd) so you will have to excuse me posting that just to prove people wrong. I didn't explain the whole story, I just put down a bunch of things together that doesn't seem to make sense

        • Sionainne

          Happy birthday! I apologize, I had no idea you are so young.

          As you said, we all have a lot to learn, and once you have discovered a spiritual path (or anything else that interests you), the best thing you will ever do for yourself is research it. Not just the beliefs and traditions, but the history. Learn where it all came from. I was a christian until I was 27, and the more I learned about it, the more sure I was that I have no faith in it. It was through my research that I discovered the various Pagan religions and found that they truly resonate with me.

          Of course, I don't expect that to be everyone's experience. Some people will dig in and find that the things they are learning will increase their faith in christianity. That could be the case with you. I recommend starting with the basics: a comparison of christian beliefs to those of other religions and getting acquainted with the history, then digging deeper. Invest in a lot of books, take a lot of notes, get some highlighters. Researching my path has been one of the greatest joys of my life and I'm sure the experience will be just as beautiful and joyful for you.

  • OnBehalfOfTheAssassins

    we are real and its not a mockery its partially behind our saying nothing is true,everything is permitted.The bible was written by people not god so noone knows if its truly real thus nothing is true and the people who wrote the bible may have been insane and seeing things like a psychotic disorder thus everything is permitted they did it on there own

    • Spitfire Supafly

      You're mistaken. Yes, the Bible was written by mortals, but they were God inspired, nor were the authors insane.

  • IJustBelieveInOneGodLessThanYo

    "I promised you a letter on Christianity, which I have not
    forgotten...The delusion...on the clause of the Constitution, which,
    while it secured the freedom of the press, covered also the freedom of
    religion, had given to the clergy a very favourite hope of an
    establishment of a particular form of Christianity through the United
    States; and as every sect believes its own form the true one, every one
    perhaps hoped for his own...the returning good sense of our country
    threatens abortion of their hopes and they (the preachers) believe that
    any portion of power confided to me (such as being elected president),
    will be excerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe
    rightly: FOR I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD, ETERNAL HOSTILITY
    AGAINST EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN."
    -Thomas Jefferson, personal letter to Benjamin Rush (all-caps are also on Jefferson memorial)

  • IJustBelieveInOneGodLessThanYo

    Oh and big deal that he misquoted fiction! Six Days...who cares? Only you! That is the same as me accidentally quoting my favorite movie! When a book tells you that a "sky fairy" made plants before he created the sun you have a big problem. [1:12] The earth brought forth vegetation: plants yielding
    seed of every kind, and trees of every kind bearing fruit with the seed
    in it. And God saw that it was good.

    [1:13] And there was evening and there was morning, the third day.

    [1:14] And God said, "Let there be lights in the dome of the sky to
    separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for
    seasons and for days and years,

    [1:15] and let them be lights in the dome of the sky to give light upon the earth." And it was so.

    [1:16] God made the two great lights - the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the
    night - and the stars.
    ...unadulterated hogwash... This book has about as much authority as "The Hobbit" ...WWBD? A religion based around Bilbo Baggins has the same credibility as "The Bible". Blech enough wasted time on this.... Your "religion" will eventually succumb to the same fate as that of the greek gods, the myths of Hercules, Egyptian Nilometer readings and boogymen under the bed. Since you christians prefer simple allegories and stories here is a simple thought experiment. Take away all religion and science from a group of people and allow them to let be. Eventually science will always come to the exact same answer. Nothing changes, science is just rediscovered and we come to the same conclusions that we have today. Unfortunately Religion will take on a mind of its own, influence on thought and philosophy will come from individuals who wish for power and control over people willing to listen. Science however will be exactly the same whether it is discovered here on earth or on one of the billions of probable life supporting star systems located in the universe. Science is a common language that can not be diluted, influenced or manipulated by any one man or organization. Science always assumes it is wrong. Christians always assumes their religion is right. It is like arguing with a 3 year old.

    • Spitfire Supafly

      What is this "sky fairy" you're talking about? The Bible doesn't mention such a creature, nor do Christians believe in one. Clearly, you've never even read the Bible. No, simply copying passages from it doesn't count. Can you or science disprove the existence of God? No, so shut your ignorant mouth about things you have no understanding about. God bless! ;)

  • [email protected]

    Where r you getting your information from the game doesn't mock christianity I've played through all of them the "scientist" that you said mocks the bible is a bad example because he ends up being the main villain for the rest of the series the pieces of eden are never reffered to as the word of god just ancient technology and the pope that wasn't really a christian unless you were brought up excusively in the vatican and were never allowed to know you're own history you were tought in history class about the dark ages when the catholic church abused its power to keep the european people illiterate and forced them to pay money for forgiveness also the game never referenced the bible or made fun of any biblical figures so so far none of your points are accurate