Liberal Compares Obama’s Push for Tax Hikes to Lincoln Wanting to End Slavery

On an NPR broadcast, E. J. Dionne and David Brooks were discussing the “fiscal cliff” that we may or may not go over. Dionne, an op-ed writer for the uber-liberal Washington Post, compared President Obama’s resolve in pushing for more taxes to Abraham Lincoln who “stood his ground on the fundamental principle that we needed the 13th Amendment and needed to ban slavery.”

In the Lincoln-Douglas debates, Lincoln stated that every person has the natural right “to eat the bread which he has earned by the sweat of his brow.”

While this phrase was not unique to Lincoln[1], nevertheless, he was right.

Income is the result of people working or investing. Taxation takes some of that hard-earned money.

Some taxes are necessary and equitable; most are not. For example, the gasoline tax is equitable and does not violate the 13th Amendment since the money (supposedly) goes to build roads and bridges that we travel on. If we don’t drive, we don’t pay the tax that’s levied on every gallon of gasoline sold. Of course, the tax is paid by people who don’t drive but in an indirect way. Goods and services that travel over roads have the cost of fuel built into the price of those goods or services (e.g., repairmen, UPS and FedEx deliveries, etc.). No involuntary servitude is in view.

But in terms of taxation as a form of wealth redistribution, taxation is a form slavery. Money is taken from people who work and then given to people who don’t work. More than 6000,000 Americans died to end that form of wealth distribution, so it’s rather remarkable that Mr. Dioone would make such an outrageous comparison.

Slavery comes in a number of forms. Our most immediate familiarity with slavery is chattel slavery which was visible. But there are other forms of slavery that are more subtle, as Steven Yates and Ray E. Bornert II point out in their article “Is the Income Tax a Form of Slavery?”:

[S]lavery is non-ownership of one’s Person and Labor. It is involuntary servitude. A slave must work under a whip, real or figurative, wielded by other persons, his owners, with no say in how (or even if) his labors are compensated. His is a one-way contract he cannot opt out of. A slave is tied to his master (and to the land where he labors). He cannot simply quit if he doesn’t like it. Moreover, a slave can be bought and sold like any other commodity.

When Congress passes laws to tax our labor, is this not a form of slavery when what’s collected goes to other people? We can’t choose to labor somewhere else to avoid a federal income tax. It might help to understand the relationship between taxation and slavery if we described taxation on income as a tax on labor. We could then apply the 13th Amendment:

“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for a crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”

If the government can take a percentage of money I get for my labor that is then passed on to other people, then this is a clear violation of the constitutional prohibition against “involuntary servitude.”

“If we work 40 hours a week, and another entity forcibly conscripts 25% of our compensation, then we argue that we have been forced into involuntary servitude – slavery – for 10 of those 40 hours. . . .”

It’s that simple.


Notes:
  1. John Winthrop (1587/8–1649), Governor of the Plymouth Colony, wrote the following in his Journal in 1642, “So many enemies doth the Lord m against our daily bread, that we might know that we are to eat it in the sweat of our own brows.” []

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  • True Patriot

    This is insane. Obama is NOTHING like Abraham Lincoln. Taxation without representation is slavery. Obama is enslaving this country by his 'taxation withour representation' BS. And the Republicans need to stand up to him on this. Being soft will cause the Repubs to lose. You don't win by caving. Are we slaves on Obama's plantation?

    • http://twitter.com/chaotixjoe NamelessN00b

      Obama's not even in charge of the whole thing. If there's anyone and their plantation we're slaves we're on, it's the foreign banksters.

      • victorbarney

        Try WEATHERMAN TERRORIST BILL AYERS, WHOSE HOUSE RAISED OBAMA TO BE PRESIDENT! NOW I NEED TO FIND OUT IF OBAMA'S FAMILY, OR AYER'S ARE PART OF OUR CIA???

        • Zooey

          Really. What crazy acid fueled brain cell thought of this one. All caps is a symptom of mental derangement. Obama is Presidet so the CIA reports to him so six degrees of separation. AYERS could easily be a spook. He'd be good. But you know that is not open information. He may be watching y right now. Check your phone, PC, maybe bugs in the house ( the spook kind). Better go check. I'm gonna send him a secret message (in invisible ink). Also watch out for those old and new Black panthers.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          NO IT COULD BE ASTIGMATISM, BROKEN GLASSES OR MAYBE THEY THOUGHT SOMEBODY WAS REALLY, REALLY STUPID AND DECIDED TO SPELL IT OUT IN BIG LETTERS. WITH ME IT IS THE ASTIGMATISM AND MY GLASSES NEED UPDATING. I CAN'T FOR 2 MORE YEARS AND IT HAS ALREADY BEEN A YEAR. IL MEDICAIDS NEW RULES AS OF JULY.

        • Nik

          Medicaid or Medicaire don't cover glasses. You are doomed.

        • HappyClinger

          The old and new black panthers better watch out for me. Carry on, fool.

    • smilee

      Your congress is your representation and Obama can not do anything until the congress passes the tax bill. so to say it is taxation without representation is a bold face lie and if he vetoes it then there is no taxation unless congress can overturn it so if you to think Obama can do this it only illustrates you know nothing of how are laws and tax laws come into being.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Dufau/1459309888 Steven Dufau

        All spending originates in the House of Representatives, but you haven't been paying attention if you don't know that the president will happily destroy the United States it he doesn't get his way. Unfortunately the Republicans have a track record of folding up like a cheap suit. They don't have the stones to stand up to, or take the president on because they don't know how to keep from getting the blame. They need a P.R. firm to do what they should know to do, but they don't.

        • gotham1883

          There are no more budgets. Obama wants there to be no more budgets created by Congress. He wants the Congress to give up control over the budget to him if not in name but in fact.

        • Rick

          A good P.R. firm would pay dividends. They need to be all over this Arab Phony like white rice.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          WHITE RICE CAUSES DIABETES.

      • The Truth

        Oh, we understand our Constitution and how tax law comes into being. The problem is that we have a president who will circumvent that process when he pleases. Like the ultimate taxation without representation Obamacare. The bill was brought before the SC who unjustly found it constitutional despite it not stating that it was a tax it could still be implemented. So our SC basically rewrote the bill since that language was not in it, unconstitutional for them to do so. That bill also originated in the Senate, not the House of Representatives. Our constitution is clear that all tax bills must originate in the House. Still we got it rammed down our throats by hook or by crook. Obama could care less about breaking our laws and Constitution that is the issue, not our understanding of how tax law/bills come into being.

        • Phillip_in_TX

          I did a little digging on that. What became "Obamacare"
          originally started out as House Resolution. It was H.R. 3950.

          H.R.3590 - Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

          To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the first-time
          home buyers credit in the case of members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees, and for other purposes.

          The part "and, for other purposes." THAT is "Obamacare!" That is how they can argue it originated in the House. It was introduced by Charles Rangel (D).

          So, it was introduced in the House, hijacked in the Senate, and wa la! We've got "Obamacare!"

        • jilliangood

          And seniors will be paying more (twice as much in 2014) for "health care" and will not be eligible for any care, since they are too old.

        • Nancy

          RHe cost for Medicaire is set out already. There is NO change in charges. Go. Look it up online. The double price for Medicaire is a right wing urban legend and Tototally FALSE. no increase in what y pay for Medicaire. No changes in what is covered. Go READMRHE big document they sent you". You old white bitter guys are so gullible. If I read it on a right wing blog it must be true. Yea. Santa Claus and Easter bunny also. .

        • Conservativesniper

          What is RHe?

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          DRS ARE DROPPING MEDICAID AND MEDICARE PATIENTS. THE COST WILL GO DOWN BECAUSE NO PATIENT WILL BE SEEN BY A DR. NO PHARMACYS WILL FILL ANY SCRIPTS. EVERYONE IS COVERED AND NO ONE WILL RECEIVE ANY SERVICES OR PRODUCTS. THAT IS THE CASE IN IL NOW AND HAS BEEN SINCE BLAGOJECH.

        • http://www.facebook.com/delbert.gue Delbert Gue

          When they refuse necessary care, that is life threatening and deserves a suitable response, perhaps stop paying any taxes and do something illegal to get thrown in jail, then they have to provide you with medical care. Imagine a nation of advanced aged people commiting acts of civil disobedience that put them in jail and then when there, absolutely refusing to do a damn thing they tell you to do. Gray panthers, unite! Hell, we could get the AGOUS look the other way like they did with the Philly Blank Panthers blocking the polling area.

        • Lance

          That's not how the Supreme court reviews laws. They actually look at the law that get passed. DUH. You guys are wacko. For sure. Why not read the real bill. I know it's long but the one that originally started the debate is not the one that got approved by the duly elected legislature which was set out in the Constitution with the Supreme Court empowered to review legislation to see if Constitutional. Yep. They said ACA COnstitutional. That is now a law. Obama got elected so it cannot be repealed for at least 4 years. Then all Ameeicans, except a few old bitter white men, will love it. Reality bites.

        • Phillip_in_TX

          Really? Wow! My POINT was the bill ORIGINATED in the House. Since ALL "TAX" legislation must ORIGINATE in the House, and the Robert's Court (aka Supreme Court) said it was a "TAX," they can claim (and be technically correct) that the bill did NOT start in the Senate. It started in the House and got hijacked in the Senate.

        • Conservativesniper

          Man, you're pretty clueless. 1 The SCOTUS doesn't automatically review laws when they are passed, otherwise, the ACA would never have passed, primarily because it wasn't completely written. The reason the ACA was reviewed was because someone sued and it worked it's way through the court system. And just because obama was reelected doesn't mean it can't be repealed for four years. How the hell did you come up with that delusional fantasy? And all Americans will not 'love it'. Thankfully, I live in a state which has already said it won't be setting up an exchange, so this poorly thought out 'law' won't be enforced here.

        • Patriot

          Obama has often spoke about his disdain for our Constitution!

      • Mike6

        Obama can issue an executive order that bypasses the Constitution and will let him stay in the White House for the next twenty years. Obama like Vladimir Illych Uliaynov is an Impostor. Lenin was not a Russian but a psychopath who liked to hang kulaks by the hundreds from different trees to make a big impression on the locals.
        Obama is not dictator yet, but he and his Chicago Democrats are working on it.

        • victorbarney

          AND DOES & IS...

        • Mike6

          I agree that Obama already considers himself a dictator for life. Our pinko Supreme Court will rule that free speech is hate speech punishable by fines. The old Coptic man is in prison in Los Angeles for making that silly video about Islam, and our Pravda media has not said a word.
          Our pravda media is more interested in Obama Bolshevism than they are in free speech in America!

        • Mindy

          Bitter old man clinging to his guns, chicken and religion. Your party lost big time to a foreign darky. LOL.

        • agbjr

          Awfully racist and bigoted, ain't ya?

        • Mike6

          You are correct and Obama like Lenin is an Impostor. Lenin was a psychopath from the steepes of central asia who liked to hang rich/hard working/God Fearing Kulaks from different trees by the hundreds to make a big impression on the locals. We are not there yet in America, but Chicago Democrats are working on it.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          YOU SHALL BE A SLAVE AND WE SHALL LIVE AND DIE FREE MEN. I PITY YOU!

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          YOU UNDERSTAND!

      • gotham1883

        You obviously are an Obamazombie. Whenever the government spends more than the taxes allow, printing money they call debt, they are taxing us without the vote of our representatives, because they know the people would be against it if it were couched in terms of tax increases.

      • larryincamden

        Don't be foolish.
        The Senate has not passed a budget in four years and we still pay income taxes every day.
        The Constitution of the US is violated every day by our Congess and the President.
        The truly sad thing is that WE allow it to happen.

        • ahb111

          What we lone ranger? I did not vote for that faux president. I voted for an American citizen. Mitt Romney. Bama was adopted by an Indonesian man therefore he is NOT a citizen. Where he was or was not born is irrelevant.

        • Larry

          Same old same old. Too bad every court in the good old US refused to hear this. Good old Sheriff Joe can go get him. He was very successful so far. Really cool press conferences.

        • ahb111

          Actually, the courts are taking up the case of the university fraud. It of course, is not being published very loud. Surprise, surprise it doesn't fit into the MSM agenda of protect the left. But it is out there and will you and all your buddies be surprised when it all comes out.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          WRONG! WHERE HE WAS BORN IS OUR LAST BEST HOPE FOR VICTORY! TO BE PRESIDENT YOU MUST BE BORN IN THE U.S.A. OSOMA OBAMA WAS NOT AND IS INELLIGABLE TO HOLD THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT. VOTING FOR WHITE OBAMA WASN'T A SMART THING TO DO!

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          TRUE!

      • colleenf

        Obama has show that he has no hesitation to circumvent the Constitution, and Congress by cranking out executive orders whenever he wants as well as his cabinet members not just cranking out but spewing regulations to accomplish whatever goal or control they wish!
        I have no doubt obama will do whatever he wants when the Congress stands up to him and tells him NO. He is no different than a spoiled brat who when told by his parents that he cannot do something, he just turns around and does it anyway .......... just because he knows he can get away with it! And to hell with the consequences!

      • ahb111

        CAN YOU SAY "REG-U-LA-TION?

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

        OSOMA OBAMA HAS YET TO PASS A BUDGET. 4 YEARS AND COUNTING.

    • Mike6

      Obama want to increase taxes on the rich so that he can put more workers on food stamps to expand his voter base so that he can stay in the White House for the next twenty years. Obama wants to be dictator for life, like FDR who was a pinko and a despot.

      • gbandy

        Very sadly Mike you could be right. Hitler, Stalin, Marx. Castro all made themselves rulers for life.

        • Mike6

          Karl Marx is Obama's role model and Obama wants to re-distribute American wealth according to Marx. The WON wants to bypass our Constitution and become dictator for life.
          Karl marx was a sadist who beat his six year old servant girl and later made her into his mistress. They had an unfortunate child. Obama will have many unfortunate children in America. Need I say more?

        • Nicky

          not Marx. Antonio Gramsci. A much more insidious role model. So Obama beats his kids and has sex with juveniles. A new one on the conspiracy theory but hey you are just bemoaning those unfortunate kids who will have health insurance now and can get immunizations, visits to doctors. How unfortunate. All because of Obama, Karl Marx and Antonio. You are doomed.

        • Mike6

          I am sorry but I am not doomed because I have my Lord. Obama demanded that the Holy Cross be covered at Georgetown University for his silly speech and no God Fearing Christian would ever ask for such a thing. Once a muslim always a muslim.
          Did you know that Vladimir Illych Uliaynov told his devoted wife Nadgda Krupskia that he wanted to be buried next to his young/beautiful mistress?

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          OSOMA OBAMA IS NOT INTO WOMEN, FIGURITIVELY AND LITERALLY.

        • Mike6

          I agrre 100%. Larry Sinclair is lucky to be alive. His life was threatened and the DNC sued him. Our Pravda media will not give him the time of day, not even, Hannity, Rush ot Glenn Beck

        • HappyClinger

          YOU are in for a rude awakening. You are the one who is doomed.

        • sarg

          Yup You drank the Kool-aid

        • daves

          I see in the near future a crisis approaching. It unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. The money powers prey upon the nation in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the financial institutions at the rear, the latter is my greatest foe. Corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed.
          Abraham Lincoln, letter to William Elkins, Nov. 21, 1864. (After the passage of the debt causing National Bank Act [June 3, 1864]).

        • daves

          Don't fall for the tactics of the money powers.

      • Naomi

        do you know the Constitution...like the amendment after commie FDR that limits terms to two. Thought you guys knew the Constitution. Go look at it. He would have to over throw the military and bri g in UN Tropps. Of yea. You old white guys believe this. Sorry. He will be dictator. No more Constitution. Y guys are toast. Go cling to your guns, chickens and religion. Go geezers.

        • Mike6

          Obama appointed the top military and when he says jump, his Generals say how high. General Patraus actually lied to the Senators with Hillary two weeks after the Benghazi murders of the four brave American when he knew that it was a well planned terrosist attack, not that silly video. Imperial Russian Infantry fought the muslims for three hundred years and always carrried a special bullet for themselves in the event of capture. You do not want to be captured by the Turks.
          The sad thing about the four brave Americans in Bengahazi is that they may have been wounded and helpless and the jihadists shot them anyway.
          Chechens murdered 200 Russian children with weapons and bombs that had been hiddden/stored in the walls of the school during construction one year before the attack. The kids pleaded for mercy and it did them NO good!

        • Marie

          you guys know the great illegal made Petraeus have sex with that woman. Then he blackmailed him so he would lie. I think this is an impeachable offense and surely Sheriff Joe can prove easily and we can impeach him. Let's get Joe on this case ASAP. He can break Paula.

        • Mike6

          He said that he did not have sex with that woman in the Oval Office and I believed him, silly me.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          THAT IS WHAT HE IS PLANNING TO AND IS GOING TO USE THE SMALL ARMS TRADE TREATY TO DO IT. IN THE MILITARY YOU ARE TRAINED TO FOLLOW ORDERS AND NOT TO THINK. MUCH LIKE LIBS ARE TRAINED IN COLLEGE AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS!

        • http://www.facebook.com/delbert.gue Delbert Gue

          With mindsets such as yours, no wonder our country is effed up. I may be a geezer in young eyes, but that don't hinder my ability to hit the target.

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

        YOU UNDERSTAND! I'M GUESSING 2015 IS THE YEAR IF IT ISN'T THE CASE BY MAY. OSOMA OBAMA IS A HOMO.

        • John

          So he's a. Gay guy and he's going to take over the world in 2015. Never knew commie gays were so powerful. Obviously gonna be aided by his ugly, dumb, gay gorilla wife. We are doomed.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Johnson/100000824645514 Stephen Johnson

      Are you kidding? Some of Obama's worshipers actually believe he's another Eisenhower.

      • agbjr

        No. They believe him to be the Messiah incarnate. Sick little sonsofbitches, ain't they?

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          YOU HAVE NO IDEA!

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

        NO CHRIST. I SEE HIM MORE AS THE ANTI-CHRIST!

    • BigUgly666

      Hey, this is Obama's "revenge" that he was talking about.

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

      NOT SLAVERY. TYRANNY!

    • 32eagle

      Obama is a failure of a human being and if he had been a slave on "Magnolia Plantation" he would not have survived because his laziness would have brought him to an early end-his brutal slave owner would have been hoodwinked upon paying for the worthless fool-and customer satisfaction in the complaint department would have been had with a bull-whip

    • daves

      We all have representation in congress except the citizens of Washington DC.

    • Remington 870

      The libs are experts at twisting the truth and history to justify their cause. What Bull Crap to compare obama to Lincoln. Obama should be compared to Stalin, Mao, Chavez, the Castro Brothers, or any other third world tin-horn dictator. The Washington Post deserves to be what it is....toilet paper.

  • PYPYPY

    This is nothing more than the left's attempt to brain wash the uninformed general public. I like to see them compare BO's spending crazy to creating the new age slavery. I am not holding my breath.

    • patriot2

      the bad thing is the brain washing is far along,otherwise he wouldn't have been elected the first time.wonder how his voting base will like it when his version of the KGB starts showing up at their houses at midnight?

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

      I LIKE HOW PUT THAT! WELL DONE!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1310118768 Larry Schulin

    IDIOTS...Lincoln owned slaves and his idea to rid the US of slavery was to ship them all back to Africa....That is the REAL Lincoln....stop believing all those Yankee Myths and Legends that have been crammed down your throats.

    • fhardin

      Larry - Not to mince words, you're the idiot. Lincoln never owned a slave in his life. He grew up dirt poor and had no spare money to buy a slave and lived in a state (Illinois) where slavery was illegal.

      • victorbarney

        And the "GOVERNMENT" PUT HIM THROUGH SCHOOL, RIGHT?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/DWE5WOEWWETLGYI4WAXNDWKGUE Daniel

      And you see problems with those ideas ??

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Dufau/1459309888 Steven Dufau

      Lincoln owned slaves! and he invented a fine luxury automobile which he named after himself. What in the world have you been smoking?

      • Phillip_in_TX

        And, Al Gore was his "hero!" LOL

    • Rick

      If I'm not mistaken, the idea of sending them back to Africa was debated in Congress who voted against it due to the cost involved. Also, didn't most people of means own slaves? We shouldn't attempt to apply our morals or our standards upon people of a different time. Aren't we the morally righteous ones?

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

        YOUR FIRST STATEMENT IS LOGICAL BUT LINCOLN WAS NOT LOGICAL. HE GOT SHOT BEFORE HIS PLAN COULD BE IMPLEMENTED. YOUR SECOND STATEMENT IS PROFOUND AND 100% CORRECT!

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

      YOU AND MATHIS 1689 ARE BOTH CORRECT. LINCOLN WAS BORN IN KENTUCKY AND MOVED TO ILLINOIS FHARDIN. THE LINCOLN FAMILY MAY HAVE OWNED SLAVES.

  • medivac

    So when is obama going to the theater ???

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1514431013 Stephen E Birmingham

      This made me LAUGH REALLY HARD!!!!!! Mr. President, care to go to the theater???

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

        FORDS?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/DWE5WOEWWETLGYI4WAXNDWKGUE Daniel

      I'd like to know too...maybe I could go as JWB !!!

    • patriot2

      he's way too late for the theater,should have gone in 1961.

    • Rick

      Will he be declared a JEW since he too will likely be shot in the temple?

      • ahb111

        That SOB could never be called a JEW. He is too busy playing paddy-cake with the Muslim Brotherhood and all those guys.

        How dare you even imply that he is on any par with the Savior THE REAL SAVIOR.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

      All you "patriots" fantasizing about assassinating a duly elected US President...you really don't see the irony in that do you?

      • medivac

        While I respect the office, I do not respect he person sitting in that office. You area pinhead and not a true patriot so get off your high horse and smell the crap that is building behind all his lies !!

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          WELL SAID!

      • Rick

        To survive in these days of days, one must have a sense of humor.
        Lighten up. Don't take Obummer or yourself too seriously. Besides, who said he was duly elected anyway?

      • ahb111

        First; everyone is not fantasizing.
        Second: he was not duly elected. there was enough fraud and miscounts, votes not allowed to be counted (military votes).
        Third: he is NOT a citizen. He is a citizen of Indonesia since he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and that makes him an INDONESIAN CITIZEN.
        Fourth: he even claimed foreign student status at college to get better pricing.

        So they are not talking about killing a duly elected pres. or legally for that matter.

        • Year1

          Can't prove anything so you just rant and rant. Your party lost big time and has made NO attempt to prove or even investigate any election fraud. What a bunch of wimps.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

          Right, Year1, and because only the lunatic fringe believes any of that.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          I THOUGHT YOUR GENERATION WAS/IS THE LUNATIC FRINGE!

        • ahb111

          This may come as a shock to you but the popular vote was not that big. And the House is still Republican. "Big Time" And there are many looking into the voter fraud. The Military votes that were not counted, all the districts that had 100 plus percent of registered voters, and the people who were told they had already voted when they walked into the polls and last but by no means least the machines that defaulted to Bama. Oh yeah lets not forget the poll watchers from the New Black Panthers. After all those guys are SO inviting when standing right outside the polling office. Right!

          There are many groups that are investigating the voter fraud. I think they are interviewing some of the dead folks that voted too.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          THIS MAY COME AS A SHOCK TO YOU BUT YOU CAN'T BUILD A HERD USING CASTRATED STOCK. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE NO BALLS!

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          LOSING A FIXED ELECTION LIKE A ONE LEGGED MAN IN AN ASS KICKING CONTEST. YOU NOT THERE TO WIN BUT TO LOSE! I'M AN INDEPENDENT AND I DID NOT SUPPORT OSOMA OBAMA OR WHITE OBAMA!

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          EXCELLENT REASONING AND LOGIC SKILLS DO YOU POSSES. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT IT FELL ON DEATH AND DUMB EARS!

      • Conservativesniper

        Read The Declaration of Independence so you can get a clue, bumbling idiot.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          READING IS ABOVE THAT REJECTS PAY GRADE!

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

        YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE IGNORANT OF AMERICAN HISTORY AND THE FOUNDING FATHERS TOO!

    • ahb111

      He is too busy. Playing golf, shooting hoops, traveling to Southeast Asia. So much vacationing to do so little time.

  • Bobseeks

    Other than user fees, a head tax is the only fair tax. Everyone gets the same basic "benefits" from government; ergo everyone should pay the same taxes. If we were to go to a head tax, that would put an end to democrat parasites demanding more government services because they would then be paying for them themselves.

    • ahb111

      I could be reading you wrong but it sounds very much like "To each according to his need ..." and that is not freedom it is Marxism.
      But I could be wrong.

      • Bobseeks

        Uh,yeah - this is FROM each EQUALLY which has nothing to do with Marxism. It the only fair way. You are way off base. There is no reason why the well off should pay more for government than the poor because the poor get more from government.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          MARKS PREACHED WHAT THE ACLU, WOMENS RIGHTS ,GAY MARRIAGE... ALL PREACH TODAY EQUALITY FOR ALL BY ELIMINATING THE PRIVILEGED ONES OF THEIR RIGHTS, PROPERTY AND STATUS!

  • http://www.facebook.com/xwolfs7 Ken Smith

    that is just crazy , these liberal progressive media people are just plain crazy pushing the progressive liberal ideals , comparing tax hikes to Lincoln end on slavery is just plain looney tunes .
    The media in the past several years has gone down hill , no longer telling the news they try and shape the news to fit there liberal progressive agenda.

    • Phillip_in_TX

      Past several years? Journalism died a LONG time ago.

    • ahb111

      can you say "PRAVDA"?

      • ezekiel22

        I believe even Pravda is laughing at Barak.

  • jrs8744

    YEP!

    • Patriot

      It's my understanding that all bills must originate in the House. If not mistaken this unconstitutional law called Obamacare was passed by the Senate! Foul!

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

        HOUSE AND SENATE MUST APPROVE AND THE CNC SIGNS IT INTO LAW. THEN THE SENATE AND HOUSE COULD OVER RIDE A VETO IF IT WERE NOT SIGNED INTO LAW.

  • singer23

    The only proof that he's the, "Messiah," is for him to die and come back, I wish he'd try it! I'd put my money on, "He Won't Come Back!"

    • Rick

      Me too!
      place him standing on his head in pig sh*t!

  • mathis1689

    Abe Lincoln didn't free the slaves any more than I've been crowned as the King of France and those who believe he did are fools,misinformed,or liars. The so-called Emancipation Proclamation didn't free so much as one slave. It simply declared that slaves were free in states that,despite Yankee propaganda to the contrary,had and still have despite Justice Scalia's misguided opinion the right to peaceably seceed from the USA. In essence it would be like if Obama told the French that they were under his authority rather than their own.

  • junkmailbin

    barrys ancestors were arab moslems who did a great deal of capturing and selling slaves. All legit because the Koran says it is OK

    • Rick

      Look what he's doing to blacks in this country. He sold them hook, line & sinker. No explaining stupid! How many times can one race be sold into slavery and who are stupid enough to come back begging for a second round? First time was disgraceful, the second time will be funny and deserved!

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

        IT'S ACTUALLY THE THIRD TIME. WELFARE FROM THE 1960'S ON WAS THE SECOND TIME.

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

      THE KORAN TEACHES THE CONQUERING OF NATIONS BY USING WAR, TERROR, ECONOMIC WAR, INFILTRATION AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SHARIA LAW. OSOMA OBAMA IS DOING ALL OF THESE AT ONCE!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=774649738 Jim McCormack

    Has she been drinking ?

    • Phillip_in_TX

      Massive amounts of Kool Aid.

  • Betty

    Who listens to EJ except commie Libs. Really why do your ought wing nutcases rant about such silly things. Obviously, it's a slow darky conspiracy day. Of course, all taxes are illegal. That's why the top 50 Corporations paid no federal tax last year or years past. Why do think Romney and his hedge fu nd buds who buy Congressmen pay a low 13.9%. If they could, they would surely have slaves. America for the rich and famous is the only way. Sorry if you poor old white men and your faithful spouses pay a bit more. That's capitalism. The better performers who really work get more. You may not be moochers but you are not too smart. Bet those welfare queens on $29 a week food stamps eat better than you gys. Sad.

    • demlibsuk

      I think in my humble opinion, that all people on welfare need to pay taxes too. They ARE the very people who sit at home and think the rest of us owes them a damn living! Before you start throwing that republican BS at me, I am a life long Democrat. My niece & her live-in ex-felon boyfriend are leeches on society and so are some of my husbands family members! I DO NOT APPRECIATE WORKING MY ASS OFF WEEK AFTER WEEK AND MY TAX DOLLARS GO TO SUPPORT LAZY ASS DRUG USERS AND LEECHES! So I believe EVERYONE should pay taxes, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT DO NOTHING TO GET A CHECK! EVERYONE NEEDS TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE! EVERYONE!

      • Paul

        So pay taxes on what little they get. They do pay sales tax. So tax them a minimum amount. There will always be druggies. Some of those welfare people are honest. Our welfare in Texas is limited to 3 years and you must be looking for work. Maybe y can scam but harder. Work at the local level to make changes". Having poor people pay tax would make all the Reps Feel so much better so why not.

        • Rick

          Everyone should have skin in the game.
          One's right to vote should be based on some determining factor(s).
          No skin in the game-NO VOTE!
          Have you seen what now constitutes a poor family?
          Large screen TV, Air Conditioning, at least one car, etc.

        • Patriot

          Big bucks transfered from tax payer to the poor. over and over again.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          I WAS MADE POOR BY A WELFARE ABUSER. I WAS ABOUT TO GRADUATE A DOUBLE MAJOR IN BUSINESS AND PSYCHOLOGY.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          MY SCALPED HEAD, BROKEN COLLAR BONE IN 2 PLACES FOR 6 MONTHS, KNUCKLE DOWN TO THE BONE AND MY RIGHT LEG SMASHED IS MORE THAN ENOUGH SKIN THAT I'VE PUT INTO THIS SYSTEM!

      • victorbarney

        AND WELCOME TO "GATHERER'SVILLE" THAT IS: OUR WOMEN & BLACK SUPER-MAJORITY POPULATION, OR OUR 74%'er's!

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

        LETS ANAYLIZE YOUR LOGIC. ALL WHO WORK SHOULD PAY TAXES. IF YOU DON'T WORK THEN YOU HAVE NO INCOME TO TAX! I ONLY USE PRESCRIBED DRUGS AS PRESCRIBED. I PAYED INTO SS AND WHEN I WAS RUN OVER WHILE WORKING AND WAS MADE DISABLED I GOT SSI. SO SINCE I PAID IN I RECEIVE A CHECK. HMMMM SOUNDS LIKE INSURANCE AND NOT WELFARE TO ME.

    • victorbarney

      I'M SURE GLAD TO HEAR THAT NO DEMOCRATS, LIKE BOOT- LEGGER KENNEDY WERE MENTIONED...

  • Richard-USMC

    Who in the hell is making that comparison. Some Liberal/Socialist/Marxist think tank. Om My God you people make me and millions of other Americans sick. Your day is coming. Yoi are marked.

  • smilee

    You are entitled to your opinions in this article but if the Constitution gives power to congress to lay taxes it is not a form of slavery and it is ludicrous to say so. The court found that congress had power to create Obamacare and lay taxes for it so you cannot realistically call that slavery as it is not and Obama is not now calling for taxes denied by the Constitution so your take on this does not apply here either. Spin does not change reality. .

    • ezekiel22

      Reality is that Thomas Jefferson mentioned debt and slavery and the taxes during his first inauguration. It still remains he same over 200 years later.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Wolfman4u Wolfman Thomas

    To all dumb ass politicians you can-not tax your way out of a recession

    • demlibsuk

      The politicians are taking EVERY ADVANTAGE of the VERY TAX LOOPHOLES THEY VOTED FOR! Don't look to them to clean up the mess they created!

      • victorbarney

        THEY(Politicians) DON'T EVEN PAY TAXES & GET FREE MEDICATION, HEATHCARE & RETIREMENT FOR LIFE AND ELIGIABLE AFTER ONLY 4 YEARS OF SERVICE!!! DID OUR FOREFATHER'S DO THIS? I'D REALLY BE FRIGHTENED, IF THEY DID...

    • ARMYOF69

      NO, but they WILL steal our hard earned money just the same. After all, they are probably due another raise for their hard work performed for us.

      • Phillip_in_TX

        Change "for" to "on," then you will be spot on! ; )

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

        THEN DON'T USE MONEY! I DON'T. SO THEY GET NOTHING FROM ME!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DWE5WOEWWETLGYI4WAXNDWKGUE Daniel

    What is this crap about Lincoln and Obama ?? These two people could not be Farther apart in their Roles as a President. Obama is self serving, thinks he is 'The smartest person on earth, has NO HUMILITY at all!
    Lincoln wanted what was best for EVERYONE, was NOT a Bigot, or Racist, Was a Humble man, and saw the best in people he knew.

    • Conaire

      Daniel, your sentiments are apprecited but your understanding of Lincoln, and his motives, represent the revisionist history taught in government schools. If you win the war you get to write the history. Thomas DeLorenzo's "The Real Lincoln" will change your view on the worst president this country ever had.

      • ARMYOF69

        So right. Few ever look into who Lincoln really was.
        I have a much better opinion of Richard Nixon as President of the U.S.A.

        • Mike6

          Richard Nixon knew about the 1960 voter fraud in Chicago and Texas but he was a gentleman so he said nothing. Watergate was payback by our Pravda media and the Washington Post for Nixon winning the 1972 election in a landslide. I have not seen one negative story about Obama from our Pravda media in the last four years. That is astonishing, don't you agree?
          I thought that American reporters were decent, honest men looking for the TRUTH, silly me.

      • Phillip_in_TX

        That might be a hard sell on the worst ever. "It's not my fault Obama" will clinch the title!

      • victorbarney

        AND, THAT EXPLAINS OBAMA, BUT NOT WOMEN & BLACKS, BOTH "GATHERER'S" WHO ONLY WANT MORE, MORE, MORE??? LINCOLN, WHAT WERE "YOU" THINKING...

      • Rick

        Worse than FDR and Wilson? Throw Jimmy Carter and Clinton into the mix as well!

      • 1794patriot

        Yes Lincoln was not as great as the history books say. He was for a stong central government and against states and local rights. He was absolutely correct in his letters discussing what would happen here in the US if we didn't send all the Africans back to Africa or somewhere else (the indies). We are seeing it now and it has been going on for a while. If you don't know about what I speak, do your homework!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Dufau/1459309888 Steven Dufau

    Obama wants us all to be slaves on his government plantation. This is just more double speak from the commie libs who have infested the democratic party. The speaker needs to Grow a set and insist that all negotiations be done in public. You can't trust the Democrats to tell the truth. They will go out and blame it on the Republicans if you don't have video!!

    • victorbarney

      Scary, but that's TRUE, including the Blacks...

  • madashellnow

    Yea well tax hikes ought to be compared to what happened with Reagan...he allowed higher taxes on the basis the cuts would come later....the cuts never came, or even came up for discussion.

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

      TRUE!

  • GreenMtnBoyA

    What does these people SMOKE??? Having watched Spielberg's LINCOLN there is NO EARTHLY COMPARISON one can make with the current line of garbage dump thinking, ego driven acts of this president! The next move these "journalists" (joke) will make is to get an Obama Monument committee to draw up plans for one that tops the Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, War memorials, FDR and Martin Luther King, Jr. all put together to make the deification complete!!! At this rate can critical mass of evidence for impreachment proceedings be far off? I know the Senate would never stand for it, BUT THEN with Dingy Harry at the helm they have never stood for anything during his tenure!! Look at how little they have accomplished in 4 years. NO budget and 31 + jobs bills from the House stacked up outside the Senate,like cord wood, ALL because Harry DOES NOT LEAD!!!

    • notlovinourtimes

      Read
      the article and huh...what all these posts seem to forget is that our
      taxes are the lowest in decades and will continue to be even if the
      taxes increase...do i like being taxed on my hard earned money, ph_ck
      no...but if you look back at our expansion over the last 100+ years it
      is because of hard working business people who at times paid 90% taxes
      as to what they paid now which is 35% or nothing depending on the
      lawyers and CPA's you have....i don't mind if the tax dollars do what
      they are supposed to do like in days of old and that is to protect us,
      build or at least maintain the infrastructure and generally help the
      well being of America, but when it is totally wasted like in the case of
      Iraq and other meaningless adventures, or paying high wages for these
      idiots in congress with there free healthcare better than any of us have
      it pisses me off....i did not elect these people so they could have a
      life long/lifetime job or career with pensions high than most everyday
      persons salary....gotta stop reading these posts or ill really go
      insane....what has happen to normal people in the repub party that guide
      and directed our country to greatness...now it appears they have
      disappeared and whats left is the neo-Nazi religious bigots that's
      running and ruining things now...god help cause they can't..........

    • victorbarney

      And,..."Don't ya just LOVE IT"??? CHICK-A-Boom, CHICK-A-BOOM...

  • vickilant

    The current spin on the Obama plan to raise taxes has become the talking points of many liberals at the moment. MSN posted an article today on the net on how Americans have had it easy when it comes to not having to pay taxes. The spin will continue........

    • victorbarney

      NO! HIS PLAN IS TO DESTROY OUR "REPUBLIC," EXACTLY LIKE HIS OWN FATHER DESTROYED THE "ONLY" OTHER REPUBLIC IN THE WORLD at the time, which was KENYA(OUR CIA?)!!! AND, Chick-a-Boom, Chick-a-Boom! Don't you just LOVE it!!! Tell that to our CIA! Again, Chick-A-Boom, Chick-A-Boom, DON'T YOU JUST LOVE IT???

  • ARMYOF69

    Oh YES...PLEEAASEEE ...free me of my hard earned money you phukking thief.

  • agbjr

    To compare the abolitionist movement to the Marxist doctrine of wealth redistribution is not only far-fetched it is downright asinine. January 21, 2013 should be declared National Smack a Lying Liberal Day.

    • Phillip_in_TX

      I'll second the motion, all in favor, say aye!

    • victorbarney

      But the MARXIST MANIFESTO demands it...LIE, LIE, LIE, AND LIE SOMEMORE, IF ONLY TO "LIE" SOMEMORE...I only wonder why it's so believeable to "EVE," so to say???

  • James Maxwell

    Lincoln freeded people from slavery and removed their shackles, osociaoist wants to
    enslave an entire nation to his bidding. Why do you think that Joe Biden made his
    comment about Chains? That was not a slip of the tongue but repating what he was told
    but the left was oblivious to what is comming if they are nto stopped.

    • victorbarney

      As I alluded to above, Bill Dohrne was part of the "WHITE"-LED MARXIST GROUP in Chicago in the 60's, and it was the AYER'S household that actually raised Barak to become our President, because it was Bill Ayers, who ran the Marxist "outfit" because Barak is ONLY half WHITE & just TOO DUMB TO DO SO BY HIMSELF! TELL ME ABOUT OUR CIA??? You figure???

  • Charley Brown

    The House needs to start drawing up articles of impeachment for Obama.
    It maynot pass muster in the Senate, but it will tie the "lord and master's"
    hands for the next two years until the midterm election when the Republicand
    can retake the Senate.

    • victorbarney

      I like your logic, but as already broadcast in the 60's, Bill Dohrne "thinks" FOR obama because he's ONLY HALF-WHITE, OR AT LEAST ACCORDING TO BILL DOHRNE!

      • Rick

        He's 47% Arab-25% African Black the rest White....
        American blacks are really stupid. Sorry but isn't it the truth.
        Look at the number of blacks who voted for him thinking he was one of them. Now that's funny. Waite until they see what he has planned for their sorry-asses once he's finished with them. Talk about useful idiots.

        • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

          NO! HE WAS BORN A MUSLIM AND REMAINS 100% MUSLIM! LOOK AT HIS ACTIONS AND BEHAVIOR AND LISTEN NOT TO HIS FORKED TONGUE!

  • Conaire

    Comparing Obama's tax on the "rich" is comparable with the platform that Lincoln ran on; dramatically increasing protective tariffs on the South. The southern agricultural states were being plunderd by the northern industrial interests which had gained control of Congress. Both Obama and Linconln plunder one class for the benifit another, while enriching themselves in the process. The southern states were being bankrupted and chose to secede. The "rich" will do the same.

    • victorbarney

      Oh! Damn the details!

  • NEWYORKER

    THIS HOW YOU PAY FOR THE OBAMAS FAMILY VACATIONS ! SCREW HIM AND THE REST OF THE D.C. POLICTICAL HACKS. MAINLY DEMOCRATS

    • victorbarney

      Ask the weathermen, or the MARXIST CHICAGO TERRORIST GROUP OF THE 60's(i.e., WEATHERMEN) THAT PROMISED THROUGH OUR CIA THAT "THEY" WOULD GIVE U.S. OBAMA! In fact, Obama actually was raised in William Ayers household.
      Co-hort Bernardine Dohrne was too busy at the time directing Charlie Manson in California! Just repeating 60's Chicago history, and the DEVIL is in the details...

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Simon-Bolivar/1711920054 Simon Bolivar

    Lincolon did not end slavery. He stated he was not opposed to slavery of it would end his war. The 13th amendment was not passed until after his death and he did not push for it in life.

  • ARMYOF69

    E. J. Dionne....did you ever go to school , past primary?

    • victorbarney

      Sorry, but i ran out of fingers past 10...

      • Rick

        Silly liberal, why do you think GOD gave you toes? :)

        • victorbarney

          BUT I ALWAYS HAVE SHOES ON WHEN I GET THESE HARD QUESTIONS...

  • gw111

    My comment may seem to not relate to this story, but please read:especially those who write "Godfather Politics". You have won the arguement with those who read this blog. We, however lost the election. Why? It is because the liberals focus on getting people to vote for them and not the story. I Just viewed the "CBC, Congressional Black Caucas" web page. At the end of the page it ofered infformation on where to register. When people are asked on the street what their political leanings are they always say conservative. Why then did we loose? Because we are the minority? Because we have the wrong message? Because we are racist or any of the other names liberals call us. NO. It is because we fail to get people to the polls. There are many reason for this and the worse is maybe we are just too lazy. Other reasons are we are too busy, or don't have the time. I know because i remenber not voting because I couldn't gete away from the job to vote. Another not so obvious reason is we are so aware of the wrong happening in this country and how it is leading us to our dimise that we don't stop talking about ait and take action. What action you might say? Easy, get the vote out. Why doesn't "Godfather Politics" put a link to registration forms. Then follow that up on how to vote early and how to vote by mail. I understand that in some areas of our cities there were buses waiting at churches on the sunday just before election to bus people to the voting stations set up for early voting. Sounds like a good idea.

    • victorbarney

      In all due respect, GATHERER'S, OR PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON HAND-OUTS, make-up about 74% of our population. I'm talking primarily, WOMEN & BLACKS W/I ONE(1) Standard Deviation of the MEAN!

  • Racine Woodward

    You can bet your sweet bippy that obama is not even close to being like Abraham Lincoln.

    • victorbarney

      See above!

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

      YOUR CORRECT. HE IN FACT WILL BE KNOWN TO HAVE BEEN EXPONENTIALLY WORSE!!!

  • victorbarney

    And, Don't ya just love it, chicka-boom, chick-a-Boom, DON'T YA JUST LOVE IT!!!

  • TheSunDidIt

    I have said what the author stated for YEARS. My ancestors FOUGHT to stop this form of tyranny in other countries AND during the Civil War. This evil must be stopped.

  • gbandy

    First of all Abe Lincoln as well as Martin Luther King were both REPUBLICANS. So Obama you lose this argument. Now raising taxes on a few certainly is discrimination towards the workers and job creators of this Nation only to benefit the "Free Cell Phone" crowds. Unfortunately somehow Obama got re-elected which will always baffle me. However the class warfare will continue under this tyrant until the People really wake up and see what an utter disaster Obama has dumped on the American People.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brett-Moffatt/1091348224 Brett Moffatt

    You are wrong in your basic premise. Lincoln did NOT end slavery. He actually, in supporting the original 13th Amendment (Corwin Amendment) supported the making slavery safe from any action by the federal government. Lincoln stood his ground for TAXES. He was a big government, big tax hack. Look at his actions, which often contradict his words. He invaded the South because they were not going to pay confiscatory taxes. It's in his inaugural address. Y'all need to stop the lying. 'Lies are from the pit of hell, and smell like smoke,' as Steve Brown of Key Life Ministries says.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brett-Moffatt/1091348224 Brett Moffatt

    Obama is exactly like Lincoln, as big government, big tax liar!

  • GetOutOfTheBubble

    Can't have a headline without attaching a label so we can hate a lot more people for something a single person did!

    This place breeds contempt.

    • Rick

      Sounds good to me!

      Why don't you leave troll?
      Don't let the door hit you on your way out!

  • gw111

    This may sound like closing the barn door after the cow is out since the election was just over. Well 2 years will come faster then you think. there were somthing like 100 million elligible voters who were no shows at the polls. Even in our urban areas there are many who don't get to the polls because of one reason or another and they to can make a difference. What we needed in this election was a Romney type running the get out the vote campaign, not the candidate. George Sorros and others like Buffit and hollywood run the get out the vote campaign for the democrats and they are good at it. They have managed to get a bad idea out to enough people to win.

  • Clark

    According to Lincoln's own words, he cared not whether the war freed a single slave or all of them. While he claimed to be morally opposed to the institution of slavery, the only objective of the war was to "preserve the union" or perhaps more accurately, establish federal domination over the sovereign republics which had brought about its very existence.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anthony-Alexander/100001688875158 Anthony Alexander

    NPR is a leftist propaganda machine Joseph Goebbels would have been proud of. Anything
    they say is FALSE and wrong. NPR being supported by government funding is similar to the Nazis providing Goebbels with the necessary funds to support and further the Nazi regime and philosophies, so what is the difference today? NONE....History will repeat itself…..It
    always does and it is one constant in this world.

    • GetOutOfTheBubble

      "NPR is a leftist propaganda machine Joseph Goebbels would have been proud of."

      Ahahahaha. You aren't taken seriously very often are you?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

        I know. A lot of these folks sound like walking Stephen Colbert jokes.

  • jilliangood

    OMG the towering intellect of the left? They can't find their a## with both hands, much less think ahead for five minutes. They need to be treated like the lepers that they are.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

    I don't understand. Most of you guys would have hated Lincoln, too. He enforced Federal power over state's rights. He fought the Civil War on borrowed money. He demanded that black people be treated as humans. These are all things you guys hate. Why would you be offended by Obama being compared to Lincoln?

  • danclamage

    I'd like to see how this argument would fly in front of the Supreme Court. The liberal justices would argue it's to benefit the Common Welfare. Fine, so long as you obliterate all forms of wealth transfer. Chronically unemployed people on the public dole would be forced to work.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Johnson/100000824645514 Stephen Johnson

    The average liberal today is so ignorance that you don't know if to laugh at them or cry for them. These people are really ignorance! An article titled "Obama's Soviet Mistake" written by the Russian Pravda reads, "The Communist in America have won with Obama..." The article even goes on to proclaim that the people who voted for him are "...illiterate..." And to hear some of them actually claim they went to college....Tell me which colleges so I can tell people not to waste their time or money going there. Yet, "just because" their god Obama told them to believe he will not raise taxes on the people making less than 250,000, they actually believe it--without question! IF Obama ever did want to start another Jones' Town, he wouldn't have the first problem at all--not the first!

  • samtman

    it must terrifiying for some one making a $1,000,000.00 a year to know that their taxes will go up by wooping $28,000.00 per year. I wonder wich luxury item they will have to cut out make ends meet. Poor Rush Limbaugh, he probabably can't sleep at night, he makes about 50 million a year, its going to cost him about $145,000.00 per year.

  • jack

    No matter what obama does it will be compared to something that was done in the past that went down in history, except the fact that half of America hates him for being a socialist moron tool

  • kpjlaw

    Taxation is legalized theft.

    • GetOutOfTheBubble

      So, not theft then.

  • KLEE

    OK SLAVERY..... SERIOUSLY????? He has lost his frickin mind!!!! for a man who speaks of change, they have a photo of him on the Rosa Parker bus, and now he is using the word SLAVERY, so much for change you idiot!!!KEEP DIVIDING US AS A COUNTRY.

  • Moose

    Dionne and Brooks are an insult to journalism.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ben.kane.98 Ben Kane

    First Lincoln was a Republican! The Democrats voted overwhelmingly against civil rights legislation for 100 years then they claimed they where the driving force all along! They promote it like it was their idea... it was not but has served them well to claim it to suck in the masses to believe they care about them... They don't care about the masses they just want their vote to gain power... uninformed people are the easiest to manipulate! They are the Democrats target audience! Star Parker has a great book call Uncle Sam's Plantation In it she describes the federal government and its socialist agenda to enslave us all by making as many people dependent on the government in as many ways as possible....take from the productive individual and give to the less productive to get the vote of the uninformed masses!

    We are watching as the administration, congress and the media all play along and the greatest country in the history of the world is being destroyed in the process. Soon there won't be much to fight over we will look like Greece, France, Spain even Cuba... wake up America we are almost done!

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

      LINCOLN WAS THE FIRST REPUBLICAN! IT WAS A 3 PARTY ELECTION.

  • A Concerned American

    Reminds me of Proverbs where it says. "the borrower is servant to the lender." If this is true and I believe it is, we are the servants of India, Japan, China and many other nations who loaned the US money to waste.

    As for Obama and the comparison to Abe Lincoln, this is preposterous! Lincoln was a christian and read his Bible daily and was actually interested in the well being of the United States. This comparison of Obama to Lincoln and even Jesus is so ridiculous that it should not even have been posted.

  • Brabado

    Please, some one tell the op-ed Dionne to stop drinking White House Limonade...
    Obama is many things and can wear many masks but, an Abraham Lincoln, he is not and by a long, long shot... He is just having a second term High!
    GOD PROTECT AMERICA!

  • ICorps

    In addition to the race card, the liberals now have a Lincoln card. They are therefore only one card short for 3-card monte, the street hustlers' sleight-of-hand card game (pick the right card), which is a total scam used to fleece suckers.

  • rchguns

    Then that would mean anyone who doesn't produce something by the sweat of their brow they don't deserve a free ride.

  • Patricia Leath

    First we had to swallow Obamacare. We are repeatedly forced to listen to the condescending and contemptuous yelling and ranting calling us "racists" because we recognize for example blatant lies from the American United Nations Ambassador. Suddenly Jamie Lee Fox is anointing Obama "god" and the "messiah" while idolized, screaming followers genuflect and accept their "god". To make matters worse, Obama is referred to as a modern day Lincoln! Pray tell, does that mean that Obama is going to free the whites in the USA by terminating our way of life. I am exhausted with the Obama World and we have four years to go!

  • A. CORNIVORE

    We all want to secede. Does that make him like Lincoln?

  • usluv

    OMG Is there no end to this BS?

  • Don

    Obama is hands down, the worst President in my lifetime.

  • Rick Walters

    We do pay tax on gas that is not for road use. When we buy gas for any off road use like mowing our lawns or any other off road use so does the government owe us the tax money we paid for un road use back? After about 55 years I'll take it in cash.

  • Frustrated

    Is the President or any member of Congress addressing the "welfare funds" our government gives foreign countries to "keep peace"? I think drastic cuts of foreign aid that is not directed at addressing famine, human rights or illnesses should be drastically cut or eliminated before any cuts are made to our (USA citizens and states) benefit programs that help the poor, the elderly, the veterans, the disabled, the infrastructures within our states and territories. Also, what about a reduction in benefits (health care coverage & pensions/Roths/IRAs) given to members of our Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of government.

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.vincent.336 William Vincent

    Its an oxymoron, Lincoln freed the slaves, Obama will enslave the nation to massive taxes.

  • Fred_K

    At the very least obummer is the exact opposite of Lincoln. Tax and fees are the same, and he would have us all tax slaves.

  • Nanette

    The Obama insanity continues.

  • dntmkmecomoverther

    Hey NPR; just for the record, Lincoln was for abolishing slavery, while this Bummer tax plans intends to embrace slavery. Just thought you might have missed that glaring difference...ignoramuses every one of you!

  • dad666

    This is just more lib trash and shold be ignored. Lincoln wanted an end to slavery, Obozzo intends to put us all out picking cotton so that he and Moochelle can continue to be the heads of the plantation. The rest are just hoping to be the foreman for Obozzos new ranch so they can ride herd on the rest of us.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

      I heard they wanted to fatten us up on welfare because their daughters feed on human blood. I heard that when Obama leaves the WH he demands that the sidewalk be covered in kittens so he can stomp on them as he walks around.

  • pduffy

    It was Lincoln that paved the way for this oppressive federalism by crushing states rights. Without the power of the federal government to 'tax' us, they would not be able to hold us as slaves. Lincoln transferred the slave holder status to Washington DC because that's what he lusted for, and that's why he attacked the south. He didn't believe a word of his own lips.

  • JBQ21

    It is called socialism and "redistribution of wealth". The Catholic Church will not speak out due to threats to take away its tax exempt status. In future plans, that ship has already sailed. Obumba hates the Catholic Church as the last vestige of discrimination against gays. Gays on the inside in the hierarchy are secretly working with him. It is all about world socialism and the end to discrimination. Unfortunately, the entitled feel that they are "entitled" even though they do not work. Just where is this 1.6 trillion dollars in taxes to come from?

  • george

    re there really thart many sick people in th usa

    • Phillip_in_TX

      Yes, in the head, they're called Liberals & Progressives. The infest both major political parties.

  • CARLjr

    Making comparisons to Lincoln is popular because there is a Lincoln movie out. This dude probably went to see it this weekend. Last year everybody was making comparisons to John Adams after the HBO mini-series came out. This just reiterates the laziness of the press.

    Plus - more page views if you put Lincoln in the headline. It's the number 3 movie in the country and the book is number 21 on the NYT bestsellers list. Good thinking Gary.

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.wolf.35380 John Wolf

    ACTUALLY OSOMA OBAMA IS WORSE THAN LINCOLN. LINCOLN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE DEATHS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS THAN EVERY PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY. OSOMA OBAMA WILL BE TOP THAT DURING THE COMING REVIL WAR.

  • http://www.survivingurbancrisis.com/ Silas Longshot

    Even though Lincoln was our first power abusing socialist prez, his view on slavery and this lib bonehead "comparison" are NOWHERE close to being a sensible comment. The clueless lib simply doesn't 'get' the fact that taxation, particularly at the levels 0bama lusts after, are indeed slavery.

  • Laura

    OMG. THE illegal just did away with nukes. We are doomed. No more nukes. Russians and coming. Russians are coming. Build your bomb shelter.

  • http://michigancplblog.wordpress.com/ The Lone Gunman

    Liberals have a narrative and they stick to it, no matter how insane or simply stupid. Equating anything Obama does with anything Lincoln did falls into that insanity. Just look at their narrative about guns and you will see this in action! http://wp.me/p2QJLE-3P

  • wtram46

    Obama would not make a wart on Abe Lincoln's butt!!! This is an insult to the integrity and intelligence of the United States public!!!

  • HappyClinger

    What has made America great is not being free to pursue happiness - it's being able to keep the fruits of your labors. That is the difference. That is the one aspect of our Constitution that is never talked about. IT'S MINE. I EARNED IT. It's time for a change.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gmallast Gary Mallast

    So the pertinent question is: At what percentage of personal income forcibly taken
    in taxes does a person cease to be a free citizen and become nothing but a tax
    slave in violation of the XIIIth Amendment ?

    I respectfully request a ruling from the court. A number, please, your honor. A
    number which applies in all cases whether a person makes $1 or $1 billion a
    year. No mumbo jumbo about “ability to pay.” A firm red line in the road beyond
    which government may not pass.

    So what is the line beyond which thou shalt not go? Long standing tradition dictates 10% of personal income. A recent proposal said we should rally around 20% as an absolute constitutional limit. President Obama’s father thought there was nothing wrong with taxes of 100%. One year my taxes came to 300% of my income. How do I live like that?

    At what point do we take a stand?

    Please see my entire post on Facebook, "RE: Patrick Buchanan: 'Who’s Afraid of the Fiscal Cliff?'"

  • quipster

    Libs don't pay taxes all on welfare and food stamps. Thank God I'm self employed don't need to work all that hard for the giveme,giveme,givemes. I like working for cash to than I give people a cut rate price.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004623030332 Jim David

      "Libs don't pay taxes all on welfare and food stamps."

      Do you actually believe that? Have you ever left your home and looked around?

      • freedomringsforall

        What i am sure he means is that a person (albeit liberal or not) that lives on welfare and food stamps does not really pay taxes on it.

        That money if taxed at all is obviously paid by the person or, as it would be, persons that the person living on welfare got the money from.

        Let's see. How did you put it? Oh yeah:

        Do you actually believe that? Have you ever left your home and looked around?

        Yeah i think that is exactly how you put it.

        Now let's go over this again:

        Person 1 works for money.

        Government takes money from person 1 and gives to person 2.

        Person 2 pays taxes on that money?

        No person 1 actually paid the taxes on that money because person 2 got the money given to them from person 1 via the government.

        Just like person 1 paid for person 2's groceries, and light bill, and electric bill, and clothes on their back, and the dope they smoke, etc. etc.

        Now i have a total understanding that many, many people need help especially in hard economic times like these.

        And some people always need help for many, many reasons.

        But get out of YOUR house and get your head out of the sand and you take a little look at reality.

        Start seeing things as they really are not through some rose colored glasses of fantasy pansy arss wussy liberal, politically correct B.S..

        If i need help from someone i ask them and if they help me i always try to thank them profusely so they know that i appreciate it, and i always try to pay them back in kind even if they would never expect it.

        Because it is their hard work that helped me out and it is theirs i have no inherent right to it even if i am dying in the ditch.

        So, i always try to appreciate and recompense.

        Some times i can recompense, sometimes i can't unfortunately.

        If you are on assistance maybe you need it but quit being wussy about it.

        Admit it.

        Somebody else is paying some or all of your groceries, electric, gas, phone, clothes, etc. etc. and the sooner we all admit it the better this country will be, and the more this country can heal, and the closer this country will get to restoration of all our collective rights and freedoms.

  • http://www.facebook.com/delbert.gue Delbert Gue

    Obama is no Abe Lincoln and the cliff is no 13th amendment. Only a bottom feeding ghoul would dare attempt that association. If anything, what Osambo is attempting to do is embarrass the Republicans in an effort to force them to give him the broad powers of the purse which constitutionally belongs to the congress. Nothing new that, Obama has frequently decided he can't live with or stand separation of powers and loves to blame others for his inability to lead. Thank GOD for term limits!

  • ONTIME

    How much does pick'n cotton pay? I might have to get me a under the table second job to pay for all my tax increases.....

  • freedomringsforall

    Amen

    This country, and so many of this countries once respected institutions, are being influenced and/or run by Fabians, Marxist, commie, fascist, dictatorial, morons.

    I am sure that there are many who would call me a moron for lumping those philosophies together but I in return would infer they ought to look in the mirror and then think about what all those philosophies have wrought on the earth and when all is said and done in history they have all wrought exactly the same in the end; slaughter, famine, and despair.

    We need to get these commie, fascist, Islamic terrorist coddling bunch of scum out of power in these United States.

    Then we need to work our tails off to get all of our freedoms and rights restored.

    We are the only hope left for this planet and for all those down trodden and less fortunate to look to as their hope for true freedom and all that it brings.

    We must stay united and take the hope, the light, and the right of freedom to every last corner and dark alley and to every last soul in this world.

  • Bo Kassa

    To compare anything about Obama to Lincoln is an insult to Honest Abe.
    Obama is not honest nor is he a defender of the Constitution as Lincoln was. Lincoln never usurped the legislative branch of government to promote his own agenda via "executive orders." Instead Lincoln followed the outlined procedures in the Constitution by amendment. The only historical figures that Obama can rightfully be compared to are Hitler, Stalin and Marx.

  • TheTexasCooke

    Actually, pretty good comparison. Lincoln exceeded his Constitutional authority using an Executive Order to free slaves ONLY in the southern States [i.e., missed the class about 'equal protection']. Barry does the same with incredible regularity. I'm not owned by the Federal Government. It belongs to me through the contract of the U. S. Constitution. If Barry, like Lincoln and his Congress, doesn't care to abide to its restrictions...the contract is off, and he has NO authority at all, just as the southern States pointed out to Lincoln and his Congress!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Sheldon/1545634670 Jim Sheldon

    Difference here is the Republicans fought for the 13th amendment tooth and nail while the Democrats pulled every dirty trick in the book to keep slavery....

    So just why are the Democrats so in favor with the blacks again??? Someone needs to give them a history lesson or make them all go watch "Lincoln"

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Sheldon/1545634670 Jim Sheldon

    One more point JFK was in favor to tax cuts for the rich, citing it created jobs placing the wealth in our own country, they need to look at the history books real close...

  • brotha ed

    Obama is FDR!

  • guest on this planet

    barry has the support of his folks since they dont pay taxes and are on the receiving end of taxpayers money

  • Doug Rodrigues

    Once again the twisted Liberal mind creates an analogy that logically cannot remotely be analogous. This sounds like something a trial liar....ahhhh....lawyer would dream up.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZXBXB2ER5P4ZNCBEZVITE5FTEI morris

    It is sad that so few really understand Socialism and Communism and the redistribution process. Quick lesson:
    1. Socialism. The Government owns everything and the individual (you) owns nothing, not even your tooth brushe and toilet paper. You get only what someone somewhere determines what you need rather than you having any say.
    2. Communism: The People own everything and the individual (you) owns nothing, not even your tooth brushe and toilet paper. You get only what someone somewhere determines what you need rather than you having any say.
    3. Redistribution. All property, real and personal is confiscated, including bank accounts and retirement funds, and is divided equally among people in the state or nation.
    4. No pure Socialist or Communist nation has ever existed that has not been a dictatorship with no actual elections. Sort of a "Vote for me or I will shoot you" politics.
    5. Now the big laugh!!! Remember all those Hollywood Liberals that paid a minimun of $2,500. a plate for a dinner for Obama? With his redistribution, they won't be able to afford a Big Mac. Remember all those low income workers that pledged themselves to Obama and voted for him? Their taxes will increase in Obama's 2013 tax bill. Now they are going to whine, "I don't understand how he can do this to me. He said he would help us."
    Stupikity knows no financial status.

  • SickoftheBS

    The only thing Lincoln and Obama have in common is slavery.
    Lincoln wanted the slaves freed, slavery abolished.
    Obama wants Blacks back in slavery, beholden to the Master (Government) for their subsistance. The government will give them food and shelter and in return all they need to do is vote for for the Master.

  • larry

    If lincoln didn't free the slaves obama would be picking cotton.

  • Curry

    "But in terms of taxation as a form of wealth redistribution, taxation is a form slavery. Money is taken from people who work and then given to people who don’t work. More than 6000,000 Americans died to end that form of wealth distribution..."
    Dionne is nuts enough, but what does this mean? The first part is true, but the final sentence is inane and historically inaccurate as well as having been posted with a numerical error that might be referring to the complete sum of all our war dead or only the sum of the dead from the Civil War.
    The black man was employable only in the agrarian South because all those benevolent Northerners created "Black Laws" to keep black people out of their States. Yes, Illinois had a "Black law" prior to the war which allowed a black man into Illinois for no more than 30 days, could marry there, could not endorse or create a contract, could not own or run a business. And after the war began, no blacks at all were permitted into Illinois, and it was not the only State to do this. If Mr. Lincoln had shown any genuine benevolence toward the black people beyond what was necessary to win votes, he would have never amounted to anything more than a rural Illinois lawyer. The black man was feared in the industrial North as a threat to white jobs and Lincoln shared this belief such that he had black people remanded to Liberia and Haiti - "The Liberian Movement".
    Lincoln was guilty of exactly what this author states he did not do. Lincoln was an ardent Whig whose chief political ambition was to remake the nation such that the policies of his political idol, Henry Clay, became the law of the land. What were those policies? Use tax money to buy votes and "invest" within the States in "infrastructure" projects, i.e. another vote-buying scheme. This was so common in the days of Clay in the 1820's that almost every State in the Union was bankrupted by it. The States rewrote part of the constitution to forbid this nonsense. But Lo! We observe today every politician in D.C. repeating Lincoln's mistakes, which include Obama deliberately dividing the nation, destroying the constitution, and spending money where it does not exist on vote-getting projects.

  • Ebnas1

    Socialism is just progressive form of slavery, when a group of people work for another group of the same people. Communism is 100% of slavery when all people work for government.