Re-election of Obama was Truly an Unholy Alliance

In the recent election, the vote was close enough that you can point to a number of factors as having pushed Obama over the top.

Where such things really mattered, though, was in the all-important swing states, and that's where the "nones," as they're being called, came into play.

The nones are the religiously unaffiliated, according to the Pew Research Center. That umbrella covers atheists, agnostics, "spiritual but not religious" and the "religious" but unattached to any specific denomination.

Or as I would term it, atheists, uncommitted atheists, superstitious atheists and closeted atheists.

Be that as it may, the "nones" made their presence felt. According to Pew, they make up 20 percent of the population and were 12 percent of the voters on Election Day.

In Ohio, Obama lost Protestants and Catholics by 3 percent and 11 percent, but the nones went for the Man Who Would Be King by a 47 percent margin.

In Virginia and Florida it was a similar story. Obama lost the church crowd, but he won the nones by huge margins -- 76 and 72 percent respectively.

The top issues among the nones, who tend to be young, are gay marriage and abortion.

Economy? What economy?

So the long trend toward pushing Christianity out of public life has finally begun to pay off politically.

The Democrats' strategy of focusing on sex and reducing women to sex objects turned out to be a shrewd insight into Obama's base.

No wonder they left God out of the party platform.

Pollster J. Ann Selzer said that her pre-election polls in Iowas showed Obama losing among Catholics and Protestants, yet her final numbers still had him beating Mitt Romney. It wasn't until she realized it was the "nones" who were causing the difference that the picture made sense.

"It was hard to think this was just Iowa," Selzer said. "And it wasn't. One of the reasons Barack Obama won was that he had the 'no religion' vote by a huge margin."

Nationally, Obama lost the Protestant vote by 15 points, won the Catholic vote by 2 points (the defection of Catholics from their leadership is another story), and captured 70 percent of the "nones."

"My question is what is it about having no religion that makes you align so dramatically with the Democratic Party," Selzer says. "Sociologically, how fascinating is this?"

In my experience, the "religiously unaffiliated" want to live in their favorite sin without being judged. The Democratic Party has long been the haven for deviant behavior. So it's a natural fit. Call them the "values-less voters."

And it's also only natural that they would be attracted to a candidate like Obama, whose entire career has been built on lies, coverups, abuse of power and disdain for traditional American values. They're drawn to his narcissism.

The Pew studies try to not identify all of the nones as "nonreligious," the euphemistic term for atheists, but realistically those unattached "believers" and "spiritual but not religious" types are de facto atheists.

Atheism is a religion as plainly as any other, though atheists like to pretend they belong in a special class of "nonreligion." For decades, atheist groups, particularly the Freedom From Religion Foundation, have been wielding the courts as a hammer to pound Christianity and chase it from the public square.

Using a well-rehearsed schtick about feeling "offended" or "singled out" whenever Christianity is seen in public, the atheists have made inroads with liberal courts under a tortured interpretation of the First Amendment.

The result has been the slow, almost unnoticed growth of a nascent state religion that is now making itself known.

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  • Screeminmeeme


    Jesus asked a rhetorical question:''...... Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?'' (Luke 18:18)

    Not hardly.

    And American atheists are doing all they can to accomplish just that end.

    • KatieT

      They won't win in the long run. Won't they be surprised in the end and begging for mercy but it will be too late??!!

      • Jim David

        Why is it that so many "good Christians" seem to love nothing more than the idea of other people being judged and eternally tortured. What part of Jesus' teachings instructs you to be smug and to hunger for the pain of others?

        If you are right about God and heaven, you had better take a look in your own hearts before counting on being invited in.

        • MARYANN33

          We are already in...We live in the Kingdom of God in this present world.

        • Jim David

          I hope your judgment is as good as your confidence...

      • MARYANN33

        Hell will be so full....

  • GetOutOfTheBubble

    "My question is what is it about having no religion that makes you align so dramatically with the Democratic Party"

    The desire not to align at all with the Republican party. If the Republicans learned how to leave their social agenda out of their politics, they might get more "none" votes.

    I'm not going to vote for people who don't, on the basis of their faith, accept modern science like evolution. A creationist has no place on a science committee.

    • GetOutOfTheBubble

      It's hilarious how you guys don't want real answers, you just want answers that make other people look wrong.

    • Shawn Smith

      Howabout this? Not believing in any sort of god, atheists need *something* bigger than themselves to believe in. It's a basic feature of human nature. A convenient placeholder is a big, maternal government that will take care of them. This is what the Democratic party offers.

      By the way, why do Republicans need to leave our social agenda out, but Democrats don't?

      "A creationist has no place on a science committee." And someone who thinks two men are the same as a man and a woman has no place making social policy because they're clearly a moron.

      • GetOutOfTheBubble

        "Not believing in any sort of god, atheists need *something* bigger than themselves to believe in. It's a basic feature of human nature. A convenient placeholder is a big, maternal government that will take care of them." Convenient for your argument perhaps, you're just making assumptions. Personally existence itself is what I'm in awe of, and I don't in any way rely on the government to take care of me.

        "By the way, why do Republicans need to leave our social agenda out, but Democrats don't?" I didn't say they needed to, and I'm not saying Democrats shouldn't either. The point is that with the current Republican social agenda, the "nones" are not going to be a fan. Pretty simple.

        "And someone who thinks two men are the same as a man and a woman has no place making social policy because they're clearly a moron." Nice straw-man you knocked down there.

        • Shawn Smith

          "Nice straw-man you knocked down there." So you're saying that's not one of the primary arguments for homosexual marriage?

        • GetOutOfTheBubble

          Indeed, it's not. They aren't saying two men are the same as a man and a woman. At the very least your statement would need to be modified to say

          "And someone who thinks two men should be treated the same as a man and a women for the purposes of applying for marriage licences..."

          As it is, it's not an argument people are making for homosexual marriage. They don't think men are the same as women. They do think they should both be treated, most importantly, and firstly, as people. What's wrong with that?

        • Shawn Smith

          Then why do the same people who say "they should both be treated, most importantly, and firstly, as people" also argue for affirmative action, racial quotas, etc? Why in one case where there is a real, meaningful distinction do they have to pretend it's all the same and in a hundred other cases they have to split everyone up and offer different treatment based on race, age, gender, sexuality?

          A conservative says that colleges should look solely at the applicant's qualifications and he's racist. A person of any race, gender, etc. can perform the same roles in that environment. A conservative says that marriage should take gender into account and he has an irrational hatred of homosexuals. A man is not a mother and a woman is not a father. The two are not interchangeable.

          And if two men are not the same as a man and a woman, why do liberals want to re-write our institutions to pretend they are. That *is* what homosexual marriage is. Saying otherwise is sheer foolishness.

        • GetOutOfTheBubble

          Thanks for the response Shawn,

          I'm not for affirmative action so your affirmative action argument has no effect on my position, and thus, if you would like to contend with the strongest argument against yours, you will have to drop the notion that this has anything to with affirmative action.

          If you insist on continuing to fight a weak version of the argument against yours, you can continue to believe suppressing gay marriage is fair until affirmative action has been ended. But that's not an argument I'd be involved in.

          The institution of marriage in the government does not require procreation, the raising of kids, and it allows divorce. By your argument, hasn't the definition of marriage already been re-written by government?

      • Uptite

        I agree with you, in part. I am a female, registered Independent - more to the right of that median. I am no longer the "Practicing Catholic" (personal reasons), but do not consider myself an Atheist, as this article states. The Economy is my primary concern,most especially over gay marriage, however I am also, and obviously for pro choice. With regard to gay marriage, I could care less, it does not affect my life or bottom line...I am very concerned about socialism, as we sit here, for another four years under the "umbrella of this ruler". I am very concerned for our future. As one stated, he has not seen any change in the last four will reveal itself and it will not be pretty!!

        • Michael S

          Are your "personal reasons" for not practicing your faith over abortion?
          You mention you are pro-choice which basically means pro-abortion. Why is the ability of a woman to "choose" to kill the most innocent and defenseless of human beings such a good thing? You are concerned about socialism? One of the features of socialism, and it's evil twin communism, is it's lack of freedoms especially for the most vulnerable and needy members of those societies, first and foremost, the unborn. Another feature is its God-lessness. Just look at communist societies such as Stalinist Russia and Mao's China, both communist and atheistic. Abortion and the "disposing" of believers were rampant in both. That is the road we are heading down and you are contributing to it with your "pro-choice" stance and caring only for "you life and bottom line".

        • Uptite

          I like my freedom.
 also pro-gun and not injured by your judgment.
          Have a nice day!!

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        • Uptite

          "Are your "personal reasons" for not practicing your faith over abortion?" No - told you was for personal reasons, guess again...think of a family member falling victim to a member of the church...

    • Doodlebug

      Instead of trying to make waves here in a Christian country, where you don't like it, why don't you move to a country that is more to your liking? Thanks to all the "nones" for pushing this irresponsible, arrogant, lying, dummicrat donkey over the victory line. We have you to thank, along with him, for all the disasters this great country is now facing. Hope you enjoy all the freedoms you will be losing! God be with us, as we will certainly need His help to survive.

      • GetOutOfTheBubble

        This isn't a Christian country doodlebug, it's a country with many Christian's.

        Keep telling me I'm losing freedoms under Obama, the last 4 years of his presidency having no effect on my life makes it a really compelling argument.

        • KatieT

          We are turning into colonies of peoples through our freedom of religion. Look at what is happening in France. If we keep falling from One Nation Under God, we will be a Nation gone under per Mr. Ronald Reagan

        • Dan Hawkins

          Get out of your'little box' of life and observe the world and your country in the context of history and truth, not the so called psychobabble that is thrown around as truth. Lets not sell yourselves short or your country..

      • Taylor Wallis

        I must disagree with you. This is not a Christian nation.

    • Jim David

      Forget the science committee, a person who lacks the critical thinking skills to discern legitimate science from folk tales has no business being in any position of leadership. The fact that so many of our politicians do buy into creationism (or at least pander to their proudly ignorant constituents that do) is a profound national embarrassment.

    • Dan Hawkins

      Modern science, you say that as if it is not from the so called 'modern' times then there was no truth or facts before. That is, well frankly a very limited non critically thinking person. Sad,, the so called social agenda is a real right and wrong fact based ( not emotional') reality of the battle with our human nature. You are so threatened by a higher being that hold everyone accountable. That is a good thing contrary to 'modern science.

      • Jim David

        Dan, if I understand your comment correctly, it is not wrong to specify "modern science." Science is cumulative and self-correcting, thus the best knowledge today is not the same as the best knowledge of yesterday. For example, DNA has indeed existed all along, but the best science of 80 years ago was entirely unaware of it. So a modern understanding of genetics is entirely different than previous understandings, yet both are science.

        • GetOutOfTheBubble

          Thanks for taking care of that one Jim. Agreed,

  • Uptite

    I wasn't aware that Atheism was an actual Religion?

    • GetOutOfTheBubble

      Good job, that's because it's not.

      • Uptite

        Ignorance is bliss!!

        • GetOutOfTheBubble

          You should know!

        • Uptite

          I did know...the article stated otherwise, which made me question it. Get over your self!

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      • WrongDude

        A-theism -- "Without God." God is not religion. Religion does not require belief in God.

        • GetOutOfTheBubble

          Wrong. Without theism. Meaning, not theistic, not believing in any deities. That religion doesn't require belief in god does not imply that atheism is a religion. Atheism is no more a religion than not believing in Batman is a religion. It just means the person doesn't believe in deities, just like not believing in Batman just means you don't believe in Batman. Nothing else.

    • Steve Schaper

      It is, for it deals with ultimate concerns, and is a worldview. Plus, the Supreme Court so defined it.

      • AtheismIsNotAReligion

        It doesn't "deal with ultimate concerns" and it's not a worldview.

        Atheism means you don't believe in any gods.

        That's it. Any other definition would require qualified usage of the word atheist such as negative (never even heard of the idea of a god), weak (simply don't accept the idea that any gods exist), or strong (make a positive assertion that there are no gods).

  • fliteking

    The election was won through fraud, there was never a chance of Conservatives getting a fair shot.

    Christians & Conservatives are out, and promiscuous pole smoking dumbed down liberals are in now.

    • YouLostFairAndSquare

      "The election was won through fraud" No it wasn't. You lost fair and square. Get the sour grapes out of your mouth.

      • fliteking

        Denial never furthered anyones life.

        Try a search engine web-chimp, the proof is everywhere.

        • YouHaveNoProof

          No it's not fliteking or someone would do something about it. What conspiracy theory do you rely on that keeps the truth hidden?

        • Ray Downen

          It's not theoretical. It's factual. We see it in many e-mail reports and on Fox News.

        • Jim David

          "It's factual. We see it in many e-mail reports and on Fox news" Again, just laugh out loud funny! It kills me.

        • Ray Downen

          There once were several news outlets which printed true facts whether or not they agreed with the facts. Recently most sources of "news" have become propaganda outlets with no apparent regard for truth. Fox News is the one which seems to still love truth and intend to print truth. It's sad if that truth causes anyone to laugh when they should cry.

        • John Galt

          I concur, a socialist / liberal saying there was no fraud does not make it so. The accounts are far too numerous to ignore, here in Philadelphia we have the poster child of election fraud.

      • Nancy

        With so much proof of fraud, it's kind of hard to "get the sour grapes out of your mouth" - libs just can't do anything honestly and when they get caught, they get indignant. I would love to see an honest election, then whoever wins ... wins.

        • Betty

          There is proof of widespread fraud on tons of right wing blogs. FL a d OH are controlled by powerful Reps. They could change voter registration and election laws. With the exception of St Lucie,mtheremjas not been one investigation let alone proof of fraud. Any governor can have elections audited. The reps had tons of lawyers ready. if there is such obvious proof, there must be at least one to prove it...especially where there are powerful state leaders. If you can prove nothing, as is the case, then quietly go to your room. West ended up with fewer votes after the audit. You guys LOST. Go back to thinking it was gifts or better truth, out geeked. We got out the vote. You did not.

        • John Whittington

          Democrat controled states have been the ones reporting fraud but they have not done their job to check it out, as all demo-rats do not do their correct jobs!!!

        • Dan Hawkins

          Frankly "we got out the vote" does not say much as to the lefts' , liberal mindset in America today. Democrats as a whole have been seriously shifting the 'truth , facts' more and more into the 'I feel and its a right' department for awhile now. It is our human nature that is in play , history shows it. That is a bad thing for our human nature is a most wicked, selfish, stubborn, and compromised 'thing' and must be put in check , constantly. Many people ,liberals more than conservatives but it flows constantly and no psychobabble or new progressive wisdom will eliminate it Liberalism is a cover up much like those nasty Pharmacuedicals being pushed down our throats on television. Don'tell them of all the side affects and basically tell the public 'trust me (us), we are the intelligent ones. Same old evil crap, same old lies, they are using the k-12 and colleges to indoctrinate the future minds.

        • Ray Downen

          Betty, Obama got out votes from dead people and non-citizens and fiddling with machines and through repeated lying ads about Romney which some people believed. He is to be congratulated for being a successful crook.

        • Al

          First step to honest is to get the money out of the election process, along with the biased press. Third parties should have an equal opportunity to present their ideas before the public, i.e allowed in the debates. The whole electorial process is corrupt.

        • Ray Downen

          It's reasonable to suggest at least one debate which would include the also-rans, but the final debates should be between the two party candidates with a chance to win. And it's not in any way true that "the whole electoral process is corrupt." Yes, there should be enforceable limits on spending. This election the spending was ridiculous.

        • MARYANN33

          I would love that too. But is is necessary to take voting away from illegals and take illegals away from this country or we will BE Mexico

        • CARLjr

          wait - what proof?

          Voter fraud was a huge topic during the election and people were on alert. Tens of thousands of election watchdogs from both parties and from independent groups were planted in hotly contested voting precincts across the country (especially in Virginia, Florida, Ohio, and Colorado) to ensure votes were counted correctly. Poll watchers monitored voting machines, made sure voters were checked off the list, and for any other signs of fraud or procedural anomalies.

          Mitt Romney even had a task force of 34,000 volunteers and a smartphone app called Project ORCA that allowed anyone who suspected any broken machines, fraud, or illegal activity to push a button on their phone to report them immediately to Romney's campaign legal team. They also used the app to check off voters - and to see who had not voted yet. Those voters might have been called at home, or the campaign could focus on areas where turnout was low to help get people to the polling places.

          With literally thousands of lawyers on high alert and ready to pounce - were any lawsuits filed? Did the Romney campaign legal team file any complaints? At either the Federal or State level? I'm not talking about the lawsuits filed BEFORE the election - I'm asking, honestly, have any voter fraud lawsuits been filed based on what happened on Election Day?

        • Jim David

          There you go again with your facts and rational thinking. This is not the place for that kind of behavior.

        • CARLjrf

          There is never a wrong place for the truth.

          I am willing to entertain the notion of fraud - if there are any facts to back it up. But all I see here is generic accusations and conspiracies overheard in the comments section of online tabloids. I am just asking the readers of godfatherpolitics dot com to check a source or two before you repeat nonsense as fact.

        • Ray Downen

          There's a difference between knowing something dishonest was done and being able to prove it. From the total count we assume that many who should have voted against Obama chose to not vote. We can't guess why they would be so foolish. But if they HAD voted, Obama's fraud couldn't have won him the election. As it was, it appears that he convinced many through deceitful advertising that Romney was a bad guy and so people who should have voted for him decided to not do so.

        • Ray Downen

          "Facts" and "rational thinking"? Not so much. Wishful thinking, yes. Hopeful thinking, lots. Crooks find ways around protections to insure honesty.

        • Ray Downen

          Your claims are vast. That they are foolishly naive is obvious. Obama couldn't be part of an honest election. He was trained in Chicago! But proving fraud is much harder than realizing it happened. And when you've spent all your money campaigning, there's no funds to draw on to contest election fraud. Obama's team found ways around every protection against fraud. Republican watchers were evicted from voting premises. Machines were "fixed" to record only votes for Democrats regardless of what buttons were pushed by the voter. There was fraud aplenty, but only in those states Obama needed for his win.

        • CARLjr

          my claims?! I claim only that no lawsuits were filed and none of the thousands of polling place watchdogs reported anything.

          You claim that:

          1. Republicans were evicted from voting premises - where? What district? why? why was there no lawsuit?

          2. Romney didn't have the money to contest the fraud. Are you kidding? He is a billionaire and had donors that had vowed an "unlimited" amount of funding. Plus there are thousands of lawyers that would do it for free.

          3. Machines were fixed to only record Democrat votes - where? what district? what happened when it was discovered? why was there no lawsuit?

          You are claiming that even though no one discovered any fraud - it must have happened because ...Chicago? You are desperately grasping at straws but calling the lack of evidence irrelevant. You call me foolishly naive to assume innocence until proven guilty. I said I would be willing to entertain the notion - if there was any shred of evidence to support it. Until then, I assume everything was on the up and up.

          Obama/Biden beat Romney/Ryan by 126 electoral votes. A full 62 votes more than he needed to win. EVEN IF Romney had won Ohio, Florida, Colorado, and New Mexico - Obama would have still won. You will need to show MILLIONS and MILLIONS of votes were fraudulent to show that it had any effect on the election.

        • Ray Downen

          I'm confident that in states not needed for Obama to win the election the voting was honest and the count is accurate. Those states require photo I.D. to prove the one voting is the registered voter. The Republican party is forbidden by a court to contest elections regardless of the obvious cheating by some. Some of us lack financing that would enable us to hire lawyers and go to court, and most candidates have spent their funds in advertising, etc. hoping to win their election. That there were millions of votes counted which were illegal is probable. Proving it is harder.

        • bodica

          750 survivors of judicial and political abuse and corruption testified on Lawless America, a documentary shown to Congress. The majority did not file lawsuits. That does not mean the injustices did not occur.Only a fool would be so syllogistic.

        • bodica

          CARLjr - due to some court ruling thirty years ago the GOP is proscribed from filing such lawsuits. They have tried to have that ruling overturned but to no avail and the Dem'rats romp home with their deceased voters, illegal alien voters, imaginary voters, rigged election machines, customised software to the detriment and danger of the nation.
          Any individual taking such a suit would need serious money to go up against the corruption in the Dem party machine.

      • Star-Dust

        There is a load of proof that obama cheated to be reelected. What l find interesting is no obama's votes have no shame. And can laugh at losing our freedao. If you are one of these obama's voter, then l hope they shoot you first. Do all say we are mad cause obama won, no, we are mad cause our freedom is being taken away, and our tax money is going to muslim brotherhood. May be you will wake up to the threat of having a love one of yours being soak with muslim acid. Get a book or seach the web about muslims, you may find out then why we are upset. I do not want to be ruled by islamic laws.
        God will judge you and l hope l can watch...

        • Dan Hawkins

          Well, well said.

        • Jim David

          "we are mad cause our freedom is being taken away, and our tax money is going to muslim brotherhood. May be you will wake up to the threat of having a love one of yours being soak with muslim acid."

          Oh my God, you can't make this stuff up! Awesome. Ever thought of becoming a writer for the Onion or for the Colbert Report?

        • Ray Downen

          Jim, we surely are not making the facts up. We're just reporting them. Since you don't like truth, you make fun of us who know the truth.

        • CARLjr

          Yet you cannot even give the most basic details. All your "facts" are just general feelings that "something" doesn't "feel" right. Not one fact at all. Can you give the name of one district where you can point to with a fraudulent vote? Can you show that even ONE vote was changed or not counted? what facts are you reporting anyway?

        • bodica

          Hey, get out of your cultie basement and look at the destruction of Europe. Moslem acid is well documented but the Obama Kool Aid Krew is blind to truth and besotted with skin color.

        • MARYANN33

          Maybe they will get a clue when God allows the enemy to come and fight us here in America...Bombs and shootings and horrible torturous things. Ya think??? How happy will all the gays be when the Taliban takes over...Oh, Oh, bye bye to gays.

        • DandBA

          Maryann, just read an article from WND stating that there are already terrorist squads here in the United States ready to attack when the signal is given. Signal being defined as our continued sanctions against Iran developing a nuclear device capable to reaching the U.S., any interference in the situation in Syria. They are all over the country NOW. google WND and read the article. Scary stuff.

        • MARYANN33

          My son told me there were groups in the late 70's. He said they were terrorist Arab groups..He knew one of them. That particular Arab pushed him up on the wall and held a knife to his throat...Not nice people...I believe you. The attack I mention is prophesied to be by China in 2017. We have sown the wind and will reap the whirlwind. But our people refuse to see. They voted for the traitor or did not even bother to vote. We could have done something about this before it was too late. A prophet mentioned a man made weapon coming here and there will be large damage and loss of lives and devastation...We cannot even fix the Sandy problem. What are we going to do about what is coming from our leader, NOT. ??? Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Nero would be the foolish Americans that voted for harm and destruction to get their freebies...A traitor is in the white house.

        • CARLjr

          But - is any of it true? WND is as reputable as the Onion.
          WND is not a news source - it is for entertainment value only.
          (if you find fear mongering entertaining)

        • DandBA

          From the "intelligent liberal comments" made by you at this site, it is obvious that you are a very unfortunate person. Have you had an IQ test recently? Would not be a bad idea to keep a check on it. Don't want you to lose any more ground. Libs are not known for their wealth of truth or reliable knowledge. Good example, Pelosi, Biden. Do they ring your bell?

        • bodica

          'This is your brain: this is your brain on drugs' might explain some of these postings.

        • CARLjr

          I have seen no proof, no lawsuits filed, no action being taken. Please enlighten me on your "load of proof" that Obama cheated.

          While you are at it, want to show me any shred of evidence that "our tax money is going to the Muslim Brotherhood"?

        • The Truth

          Obama tried but the House blocked him from sending $450 million in cash to help Egypt’s new Muslim Brotherhood-dominated government cover its massive budget deficit, which is estimated somewhere between $12 billion and $23 billion.

        • The Truth

          Oops I mispoke, I beleive Obama gave $1.3 billion to Muslim Brotherhood run Egypt in early 2012. At the time Hillary announced that Obama will “resume funding for Egypt’s military, despite Congressional restrictions and objections from human rights and democracy advocates.”

        • Ray Downen

          I'm glad you corrected the wrong info. And another $23,000,000 is on its way beginning in January. Fighter planes.

        • Ray Downen

          The money trail is easy, but you won't believe it because you don't want to believe it. Every mid-east nation which has fallen into enemy hands during Obama's term had help from the U.S. in doing so. Egypt is the largest and more recent example, with Lybia and Syria next in line. Our arms were given to Muslims. Our money was given to Muslims. And Egypt is getting generous support even as it falls completely into enemy hands. This from Obama's state department.

        • CARLjr

          George W. Bush signed Executive Order 13477 giving Libya immunity from terrorism based lawsuits and dismissing all pending cases. He also removed them from the list of nations that supported terrorism. Why did he do that? Was he working with Gaddafi? They obviously supported terrorism. Ronald Reagan called Gaddafi the "mad dog of the middle east."

          Obama helped overthrow Gaddafi and allowed Libya have it's first free elections in 60 years. Compare the regime change in Libya to the one in Iraq - the loss of American lives, American tax dollars, American resources. By allowing the Libyans to fight their own battle - we did not get a bunch of our own kids killed. Yes, Muslims live there - and elected a new Muslim leadership - but it was their own votes. That's a risk of democracy.

      • insaney

        If it wasn't a fraud, please explain to me how Obama was able to get 108% of the vote in a district in Ohio. Maybe the same way he said that if Obamacare was passed, your employeer's cost for your insurance would be one THOUSAND % less. Or how our country somehow obtained 7 new states. Or how there were districts in Virginia where Romney got not ONE SINGLE VOTE! My family's roots are in Va and W.Va and TRUST ME, they DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA.. Maybe he promised the people that if they could manage to vote more than once, he would give them TWO cell phones. How can you be so blind as to say he won fair and square. Have you no common sense? Let's see who's eating the sour grapes when Obama is still taking monthly vacations around the world, and MAYBE, you can afford to take your family to the zoo or Elitchs once every other year!!

      • dragonfire777

        No my friend you, I , the country will lose in the end you idiotbot. How stupid could you be not to see pond scum?

      • Al

        There was fraud on both sides. Enough that the fraudsters canceled each other out.

        • John Whittington

          making a story up does not make it so or even revelent.

        • Precisely

          Exactly, so this claim that voter fraud played a significant role is neither true nor relevant, given that there's little to no evidence of it.

        • MARYANN33

          There is plenty of evidence, no one is checking the facts. What about the military vote...That is not for Obama for sure.

        • CARLjr

          There was a low military turn out - but no fraud has surfaced.

          Neither candidate had any military background and neither candidate was a desirable choice. It was just a low turn out.

          If you have evidence of something else - please post it. I'm all ears.

        • Jim David

          I second that request. I am seeing lots of claims of abundant proof of fraud and deception. Please post it.

        • Tomk777

          No, one side cheated, the other thought that the traditional hard work and solid campaigning would get the job done, with Romney ahead in every poll by as much as 6 points just a week ahead of the election, they thought they had it. Only cheating on a massive scale, changed the outcome.

        • Dan Hawkins

          Seriously you do not believe that. Honestly please look and know that there is something massively amiss with this administration and those behind the scenes here.

        • Ray Downen

          That is absurd. We are honest. Obama was trained in Chicago to be dishonest. Every state where photo I.D. is required went for Romney, and it's very possible the other states would have if the vote had not been rigged so that every vote went Democrat regardless of which candidates were chosen by the voter.

      • Chuck

        Union members voting for Obastard three, four, and sometimes more times, might have had more effect than the Non/Anti Christ voters.

        • YouLostFairAndSequare

          Sure Chuck. And so might have the aliens that voted in the election, the ones from Mars.

        • Ray Downen

          Your claim that there was no fraud is entertaining and extremely hard to believe in light of what has been reported.

      • Shell

        Can you read?, can you assimilate facts? can you honestly think there just might be a life beyond the Democrat party? could you sleep if you had an idea that didn't originate with "party politics" and could you actually watch FOX NEWS instead of the other stations, none of which would dare to give the truth a venue? Could YOU? If so, there might be hope for you and perhaps AMERICA!

        • YoureIrrelevant

          So many godfatherspolitics posters really do seem to insist on proving their irrelevance due to the grossest simplistic thinking possible. Well done Shell.

      • connie foster

        Poor baby. You sound a little defensive over there in your moms basement. Boohoo not everybody loves your obama savior

      • shamu9

        F. U . Obama-Bot Commie PHAG!! Go get your Daughter and her Zebra Kids to the Welfare Office!!

      • tetons9

        Where in the h*** have you covering your ears and closing your mind? I have never heard such a statement coming from somebody who should have been aware of things going on around him.

      • Wibbys1

        You are so full of crap your stench reaches all the way to Alaska!

        • MARYANN33

          And you voted for Satan himself.

      • MARYANN33

        You lie.

      • Kenneth M. Fisher

        Right, and you can have more than 100% of registered voters voting and the election is still fair, NOT!
        God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
        Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
        Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.

      • Ray Downen

        In states where voter I.D. is required, the election was fair and Romney won. In other states, there was considerable hanky-panky and Obama got counts even from the dead and those unable to vote for themselves so someone else voted for them. But many who should have voted chose to not vote, and that allowed Obama to win with only comparatively little fraud in some states.

    • Sharr

      I have not stopped laffing since this non-election election of the fraudulent bo and his thuggary. They run guns in Libya, Syria, Mexico and people die, then they lie. BO has a fraudulent social security number from Connecticut of all places. It did not pass E-Verify. HillBill "Blue Dress" Clinton can tell you about the thuggery - just ask about the threats to Chelsea. Larry Sinclair for first lady?? Rahm the rat Emanuel sent back to the windy city to keep the Rev. Wright (Wrong) and the down low club shut up during the campaign. Buying votes, back room deals, payola, deviancy, lying, something up the sleeve; call it what you will; it is all disgusting. We had friends that COULD NOT get their voting machine to vote for ANYONE buy BO. Disgusting. What about whispering to the Russians? What happened to Donald Young? What happened to Bill Gwaltney? It will be swept under the carpet for now - but life is short and that is why I am laffing. The cheaters will meet their maker some day and it won't be on my time or my dime.

      • bodica

        You mean the elitist 'Man's Country' bathhouse where men wear a red handkerchief in their back pockets to indicate availability?

    • Al

      I believe that there is some merit to the article. The "nones" do exist in society and are not persuaded by religious values. They tend to by younger and more likely Ron Paul supporters. Paur has quirky, liberal views on durgs too. Romney would never have appealed to them and 20% is an accurate if not conservative estimate of this group. Race also played an important part in the presidential race. If Obama was white he would have won by a wider margin.

      The political analysts will not adfmit it but Paul had the better chance of winning this election. Had he won the nomination he would have had time to garner vet support, the young voters with his concerns over the Feds, the "white" vote, and the Republicans. Many Democrats would have voted for him too as all Democrats would rather have another choice that wasn't provided by Romney. It's water under the bridge now and pure speculation.

      This was a good analysis as the "nones" on this country are a political force to consider.

      • Ray Downen

        I don't think Ron Paul had a chance to win if nominated. He didn't look presidential. He didn't speak well. Yes, I'd have had to vote for him if it was between him and Obama, and many others would have had to. But I don't think many would have wanted to do so. I was amazed at the following he had here in southwest Missouri. I realize that many young people liked him. I just couldn't see why any citizen would want us to pull out of all foreign nations we've been helping. Now Obama is forcing us to pull back because we've no money to give away unless it's to his Muslim friends. I didn't want Ron Paul as our candidate.

    • Marcel Duranleau

      Curse to the USA Gov't to let under age of 20 to vote. Look Numbers 14:27-33
      Ecclesiastes 10:16 Isaiah3:1-5,12 who participated in the 2008-2012 presidential election voted for Barack Obama. Christians did worship for God We The People
      or Obama instead to worship True God Yahweh. Many false churches in USA
      who are involve in USA De Facto Corporation Gov't. Revelation says come out of her
      Babylon. Revelation 18:4 Matthew 7:13-14

  • Adam Moreira

    The "nones" might well have voted more for Gary Johnson, however, if they felt that he had a chance at winning. Johnson, as it was, took votes equally from Obama and Romney, but for these "nones", social issues likely played a role. I would not be surprised if many of these "nones" did not vote straight Democrat (I personally split my vote at different levels across both parties on Election Day). I can't prove it, but I do think that those "nones" who did not vote libertarian ultimately decided to vote Obama to avoid a wasted vote. (Gary Johnson did not cost Romney any states.)

    If the Republican candidate was seen as a stronger fiscal conservative, then the libertarian likely loses about 40 percent of the vote he gets. For abandoning fiscal conservatism, however, Republicans kind of had this coming, and to get it back, they need to re-discover fiscal conservatism. America kind of depends on it.

  • CARLjr

    Evangelicals should start their own party.
    Run with Santorum as your candidate. Keep the crazy cranked up to 11 - put out all the conspiracies. Keep mentioning rape every few weeks and call everyone sluts, fags, and sinners. Make sure that anyone that does not agree with you is labeled an enemy, and make up elaborate schemes they are planning behind everyone's back. Pile on disinformation. Plan out your defeat early - set up a story to insinuate how no matter how few votes you get - you would have won had the other side not cheated.

    Then let the Republicans go back to the message of smaller government, and a fiscally sound budget. Maybe I'll vote for one again.

    • Dasgeiss

      Excellent, Carljr! I agree whole heartedly!!!

      • MARYANN33

        Democrats are destroying my country. My family has been here since the 1600's. We made a great country. You have no right or reason to destroy it.

        • Dasgeiss

          Your are so right...Democrats have no right or reason to destroy this country. However, realize there is no Democratic Party anymore. It is now the National Socialist Party. They just haven't changed the name is all.

      • Edward53

        You must be Carljr's boytoy.

        • Dasgeiss

          And you are a Liberal, right?

    • dean29685

      Santorum would not be my choice not eligible. Alan West or Jim DeMint would. This from an Independent Evangelical Constitutionalist. The progressive/liberals run both parties the only difference being the Republicans are marginally more civilized.

      • Jim David

        That actually made me chuckle out loud. Thanks, dean. (sorry, not with you, at you)

      • MARYANN33

        Allen West or Jim would be great. But the Republicans are not clean handed enough to go for righteous men.

      • CARLjr

        Santorum not eligible? He ran for president....

        Alan West lost his own reelection bid and Jim DeMint is resigning his seat for a more lucrative position at the Heritage foundation. I suggest you stick with Santorum.

        • dean29685

          Not eligible according to the constitution which seems to mean nothing any more and he ran for a chance to run but obama ran and won by ignoring the constitution so what the hell I guess anything goes.

        • CARLjr

          I am confused. Why is he not eligible?
          You would think that would have come out during the primaries when he was running for President.

        • dean29685

          His parents were not both citizens when he was born. Both parents need to be to fit the definition of citizenship for eligibility. And by the way when asked he replied obama is doing it so can I. my answer to that is one illegal action does not change the constitution what it does prove is this is no longer a constitutional republic just a farce.

    • Bobseeks

      You apparently have the same hatred of the truth as the liberals.

      • Pearl

        Carly outlines exactly what you right wing extremists do. READMRHE list again. Whatmy did in 2012. You lost. But please don't believe the list. Just do it again. Got any good rape jokes.

        • Dan Hawkins

          I truly do sense of elitist emotion and superiority from the more liberal in my daily life. Honestly.

    • Edward53

      Are you still living in Carlsr's basement, Carljr? Speaking of fags, does your boytoy still live down there with you?

  • Jim David

    I've never understood this assertion that non-believers don't believe in anything "bigger than themselves." It is really the opposite of the truth. Most non-believers that I know see themselves as pretty insignificant organisms on a random speck of dust in a giant cosmos of billions of galaxies and potentially trillions of organisms. This point in time is not special, and the universe will continue unabated long after they are gone. Most everything is "bigger than themselves."

    Meanwhile, Christians believe that they as humans are the pinnacle of God's plan, created in His image, billions of years of evolution (if they accept it at all) were all just God's plan to get the universe to a point where Christian humans exist. Now that this has been achieved, the rapture must surely be coming soon (what else could be left for the universe to do? Humanity has been achieved!) They believe in only one thing "bigger than themselves" and that's a God who frets over their every thought, who they can communicate with telepathically through prayer, and who is waiting to make them immortal, too. And out of all the people with all the religions throughout the history of humankind, they are the only ones who truly understand. Yeah, real humble!

    • GetOutOfTheBubble

      Well said.

      I find myself in awe of existence, and our limited capabilities and significance. We exist in a world where comprehensible distances are measured between inches and miles, but we know of distances like angstroms and parsecs defy our comprehension. We are lucky to live a century, and yet our universe has existed for over 13 billion years.

      I don't need to imagine a god to be in awe of reality, or to realize that my existence is part of something much much bigger than myself.

      • insaney

        Here, Here!

      • Jim David

        Beautifully stated, GOOTB.

    • dean29685

      What a bunch of hog wash spoken by some one who was the belief of a TV addict and no formal education.

      • Jim David

        I "was the belief of a TV addict?" Perhaps due to my lack of formal education, I don't even know what that means.

  • Steve Schaper

    That category .of 'nones' is misleading. Evangelical ecclesiology does not view a given denomination as 'the One True Church' that one must belong to. As a result, many evangelicals simply don't apply for membership. That doesnt' make them atheists at all.

  • Sgt. York

    when the final trumpet sounds,hell will be full. Most will be branded with the mark BHO pray brother that your brand say's GOD

  • del

    how about those rigged machines , multiple voters, dead voters, illegal voters, no military votes counted, wonder old scumbag won again....same as last time with acorn using several different names and old soros ill gotten gains plus his mediamatters propaganda crap yakking to the sheeples who are too ignorant to understand

    • CARLjr

      Which rigged machines? What multiple/dead/illegal voters? There are a lot of accusations flying around on this thread, but a severe lack of specific facts or events. Where are the lawsuits? Where is Romneys legal team?

  • John Galt

    To me it shows a general loss of faith and a growing secular nation, without a moral compass to guide us. All in all a sad state of affairs.

  • kellys

    The RNC pushing Flip flop Mitt "the non conservative" probably had more to do with our losing than anything, how did that guy keep advancing throughout the election year when nobody really wanted him? This whole fiasco can be laid at the feet of the RNC elitists who refused to listen to the rank and file and did things "their way". The same people who lost to Obama 4 years ago lost to him again this year, they keep running the 2nd rates, Romney, McCain, Bob Dole, they just wont learn, and then they expect us to follow their appointed losers. Maybe conservatives quit following this year and started leading by telling the RNC no. The RNC needs cleaned out, Boehner needs to go, he has no qualifications for leadership and is punishing true conservatives by purging good men from prominent positions. You would think he takes his orders from Obama, maybe he does.

    • Robert Tetlow

      Agree with this assessment completely. The old entrenched toads in the GOP will continue to offer us these centrist losers (Dole McCain Romney etc) till the party is dead. Only two "people" to blame for the GOP loss, and that is the GOP leadership and Mitt "the centrist" Romney. They will continue to lose as long as they pick "demonrat light" candidates. Message to old toads, "Hows picking out centrist morons working out for ya?" All I can say is, I hope it is not too late to save our country when the party is finally purged of centrist morons like Boehner.


    well there you go:obama/hitler said; "America was no longer a Christian nation".

  • hongryhawg

    The figures in the article are based on the supposition that all the "votes" were legitimate. More and more information is coming out that proves otherwise. But, everyone knew all along anyway. There simply are not that many "nones" eligible to vote.

  • kushibo

    Sigh. Republicans will keep losing as long as they refused to understand why they lost election. A couple points to make here.

    First, this wasn't a close election. Obama beat Romney by nearly 4 percentage points, which is a lot in modern times where campaigns can use instant media and polls to fine-tune their message in order to eke out a few more votes. So he beat Romney by nearly 5 million votes. That is not close. Gore beating Bush by half a million votes, is a close election.

    Second, God is in the Democratic Party platform. If you have to rely on distortions in order to make your point, your point is lost.

  • Norma

    Obama won blacks, Hispanic, Asian...Romney did not. All three ethnic groups are very religious and belong to real churches. Hardly atheists. You guys need to face reality. I go to a Baptist church in the South, read the Bible and Constitution and voted for Obama. I have friends who are Christian all over the country who did likewise. We're all white, non union, work for mid to big corporations, not on welfare. really. Ever thought those type would vote against Mittens". I will also pay more income tax under Obama and ohyea I went to a private Christian school. your bigotry appeals me. There is no GOP. It is dead.

    • Jim David

      Norma speaks the truth.

      • MARYANN33

        She did it, she is guilty with all the sinners who voted for him. Their judgement will all be the same. It is not ok to vote for evil.

        • Jim David

          You know what - you self-righteous holier-than-thou old bat - different political preferences do not make one evil. Pointing fingers and spitting accusations, and lusting for the day when you think you can watch people suffer eternally for not agreeing with your small-minded, hateful, paranoid madness may indeed be evil. It is certainly pathetic.

        • MARYANN33

          I know the TRUTH hurts. There is still time to change your direction...I pray you do...There is a spiritual battle going on over this country and you are on the wrong side.

        • Jim David

          How would you know the truth hurts, you don't appear to have ever encountered it. You're the nastiest kind of "Christian" - the kind that has the arrogance to believe they speak for God, who delights in feeling righteously superior, and revels in revenge fantasies of watching other people burn. Your twisted behavior is a far thing from the teachings of Jesus.

        • MARYANN33

          The hardest job for a follower of Jesus is to tell the truth Jesus tells them to tell, when they know they will not receive it...Very very difficult. Some one have to warn of what is to come...

        • Jim David

          You believe Jesus is telling you to say those things? Perhaps I am being too hard on you - maybe you're not a bad person, maybe just crazy.

        • MARYANN33

          I have told you, Job done...

        • Jim David

          Job done. You should sit back and smugly congratulate yourself on your good works. Oh wait, you've got that covered huh?

        • MARYANN33

          Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God...How can you live by it if he does not speak to you?

        • MARYANN33

          God gave this country several extra years before judgement. Now he is coming with whips...

        • Jim David

          He spoke with you about this?

      • mudguy1

        Obvious you don't know what the truth is either.

    • MARYANN33

      You think you are a Christian...Many do and will be turned away. You voted for sin and no God in America. Why would any Christian vote for the devil?

    • mudguy1

      So as Christian you voted for murdering babies, gay marriage, a lier, a fraud and a party that booed God when He was put back into their Platform. How can you call yourself Christian. If that what Christianity is all about no wonder true Christians are getting a bad name. Not sure what or whose Bible you are reading.The Bible I read condemns everything you voted for.

      • Jim David

        Please see my comment to Maryann33.

  • hmm

    Even the strong black christian people voted for him because of being black and history been made. They over looked their values of believing in God and HIS laws.

  • John Whittington

    As I always heard "if you believe in nothing, you will fall for anything"! They fell for Obama and it will be known later to be hard!!!

  • Taylor Wallis

    Well first off not all of the nones are atheist . There is such a thing as being agnostic. Secondly Romney's plan for the economy wasn't a Good one. And the human rights issue of marriage equality is important.

    • Bobby Liguori

      I guess you're in the catogory of the "nones" respect for Natural law which is God's law.

      • Taylor Wallis

        Actually I am Wiccan. And seeing as Wicca is a nature based religion I obviously respect nature. By the way, homosexuality accuse in nature thus making it natural.

      • Taylor Wallis

        Oh, and remember the separation of church and state. This is not a Christian nationd The rest of America doesn't want your religion shoved down our throats.

  • connie foster

    Good article.
    They probably think Obama is God

  • Ted R. Weiland

    As long as we continue with the un-Biblical Constitutional election process, get used to it:

    "...wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat." (Matthew 7:13)

    Despite their promotion of constitutional elections, a few 18th-century men, Noah Webster among them, understood the importance of having godly men as rulers over society:

    "…let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers just men who will rule in the fear of God. …[I]f the citizens neglect their duty and place
    unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made not for the public good so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizens will be violated or disregarded. If a republican government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine commands and elect bad men to make and administer the laws." (Noah Webster, History of the United States (New Haven, CT: Durrie & Peck, 1832) pp. 336-37.)

    So, here's the rub: a Republican government’s only hope of success is if a minority of Christians (Matthew 7:14) are somehow elected by a majority of non-Christians (Matthew 7:13). This wouldn't be the exception if Article 6 instead of banning had mandated Christian test oaths and with them Biblical qualifications for federal officials. Yahweh has better system by which instead of the lesser of two evils (if we're lucky), we end up with the literally the best of the best of two or more candidates.

    For more, see online Chapter 5 "Article 2: Executive Usurpation" of "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective" at

  • Silas Longshot

    Oh, yes libs, this election was "won" through fraud on a massive scale. You have democrats bussed in from Texas to Ohio, noted in newspapers. Zombie voters in every no ID state. Easily done, check youtube for 'voter fraud', walk in with a name live or dead, if it's on their books, they hand you a democrat ballot, no questions, no ID required. Won't even take it if offered. Then we have our lovely electronic voting machines. Easily hacked, easily reprogrammed, easily manipulated. Several 'key states' during early voting had reports of votes for Romney showing in king zero's box. The polling station manager saying, 'this machine must need recalibration'. Yeah, really? They tweaked the programming until the stolen votes were completly invisible.
    The potential for totally untraceable fraud and vote manipulation was the sole purpose of forcing the nation to move to electronic voting machines. No paper trail to prove any monkey business, and elegant programming that erases itself after the dirty deed is done, say stealing the first 1000 votes for Romney from every voting machine in the nation or at least in the 'key' states, then 'vanishing' without a trace.

    • Jim David

      Right! But what you don't realize is that is all being orchestrated telepathically by space monkeys that can manipulate voters and pollwatchers through intergalactic mind control. The only way to protect your thoughts is to rub light mayonnaise on your scalp and cover it with aluminum foil. Then you might want to cover that with a hat, and maybe some suspenders to make the hat seem natural. OH, I see you've got it covered...good. Meet me in the secret hollowed out mountain and we will devise a plan...

  • Ed DeRocher

    God says "The Atheist is a Fool."
    The Wisdom in God's Word states that it is "Folly" for a person who Answers a Matter
    Before he has "Heard ALL Facts of the Matter." (Proverbs 18:13) In short, God says he is a Fool. Any Wise Lawyer Would Not Risk his Reputation in court (as a Fool) by Not Invest-igating All of the Facts in a Legal Matter. He would want to be Prepared with Alternative Strategies to advance his case in lieu of Uncertain court Rulings, that would depend on the court's acceptance or rejection of the evidence presented.
    The Bible teaches that the man who Cannot Reason is a "Fool," the man who Refuses to Reason is a "Bigot," the man who is Afraid to Reason is a "Slave." The Fool wishes he could Reason, but cannot, he has No Moral Compass; the Bigot is able to Reason, but Refuses to Accept Correction, he is Prideful, (don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up); the Slave is able to Reason, but he is Fearful of what people will say about him, (don't make waves, let's go along to get along, Strive for Majority's acceptance). But the "Willing Man" has every good opportunity available by his "Ability and Willingness" to Reason. The God of the Bible is a "God of Reason." God's Word says, "Come now, let us Reason together, says the Lord, though your sins be as Scarlet, they shall be as White as Snow; though they be Red like Crimson, they shall be as Wool. If you are (key words) "Willing and Obedient," you shall eat the good of the land. But if you refuse and rebel, you shall be devoured with the sword; for the mouth of the Lord has spoken it." (Isaiah 1:18-20) God speaks to the Fools when He says “My people are destroyed for lack of know-ledge." (Hosea 4:6)
    "The Fool has said in his heart, ‘There is No God." (Psa 14:1;53:1) “For the preaching of the Cross is to them that perish Foolishness; But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks Foolishness." (1Corinthians 1:18, 23) The elite Psychiatry Profession claims that man is a Two-part being; he has an Intellect and a Body, and that the Goodness of man lays within his Inner most being. God's Word says this is Not correct; there is No Goodness in man in his fallen state. (Romans 3:10, 23); “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, Not one. For ALL have Sinned and come Short of the Glory of God.”
    In Genesis.1:26,27, God says, "Let us make man in OUR image, in OUR likeness," that is a Three-Part being in the Likeness of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy
    Spirit. The spirit of man is the most important part of his triune creation. The spirit of man was created in the express image of God and is Indestructible and will Live Forever in Eternity. God created Adam and Eve in His Glory and they were spiritually joined to God and they were exceedingly blessed with His Grace in all things. But when Adam and Eve rebelled against God's instructions, their spiritual union was severed and their fellowship with God was destroyed. Because of Adam's fall, man received as a consequence for his disobedience, a sin nature. This sin nature, referred to as "Original Sin," is an innate propensity to commit evil. God is an All-Consuming Fire and He knows that sinful man cannot stand in His presence without being destroyed. So God sent Jesus the Savior of mankind so that sinful man could be forgiven and reconciled to God, whereby enabling man to stand before a Holy God in Right standing with Him and without being
    destroyed by His All-Consuming Fire.
    In the Course of 4,000 years, God Sent His Son Jesus, to save Fallen Man by becoming a Propitiation and Sacrifice for man's sin, and thereby Reconciling man back to God. God is Loving, Merciful, Forgiving, and Just. The greatest Promise in the Bible is John 3:16,17; "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should Not Perish, but have Everlasting Life. For God sent Not His Son into the world to Condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved." The greatest tragedy is John 3:18; "But he that believeth Not is condemned already, (the Atheist, Agnostic) because he has not believed in the name of the Only Begotten Son of God."
    God in His love, mercy, forgiveness, and grace, satisfied his Justice and hatred for man's sin by providing a way for man to be reconciled to God, by placing the entire sins of the world, past, present, and future, upon Jesus, the Lamb of God Who is without sin and Who takes away the sin of the world.
    God Takes No Pleasure in the Death of the wicked. Ezekiel 33:11 says, “As I live says the Lord God, I have No Pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and LIVE: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of
    Israel?” The problem with man’s sin nature is quite simple. Man Cannot save Himself from his destructive sin nature, therefore God provided a Savior to deliver him from his evil ways.The Bible way to heaven is achieved by a simple Confession and an act of faith found in Romans 10: 9-13; that says, ”If you Confess with your Mouth the Lord Jesus and
    Believe in your Heart that God raised Him from the dead, you Will be Saved. For with the Heart one Believes unto Righteousness, and with the Mouth Confession is made unto Salvation. For the scripture says “Whoever Believes on Him will Not be put to Shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over All is rich to All who call upon Him. For whoever calls upon the Lord (Jesus) Shall be Saved.” When a believer Confesses this prayer, he is making a proclamation of Identification. He is vicariously in agreement and personally Identifies with the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus who took his sins to the cross and was raised from the dead in hell for the forgiveness of all his sins, enabling him to spend eternity with the Father in Heaven.

    The Atheist and Agnostic says God does not exist, yet They Have Not Searched for Him. The man who does Not Search for God will Generally Never find Him, but the man who Steadfastly Searches for God Will Always Find Him. God invites men to Search for Him, and He promises to Reveal Himself to ALL who Seek to Know Him. Jeremiah 33:3 says, “Call unto Me, and I Will Answer You and Show you Great and Mighty things which you do not know. ”Jeremiah 29: 11-14 says, ”For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of Peace and Not of evil, to give you a Future and a Hope. Then you will Call upon Me and go and Pray to Me, and I will listen to you. And you will Seek Me and Find Me, when you Search for Me with ALL Your Heart. I will be Found by You says the Lord, and I Will bring You back from Your Captivity;”
    The Atheist and Agnostic are Without Excuse. God has Given sinful man a Plan of Redemption and Eternal Salvation. God has Given us His son Jesus; He has Given us His Holy Word, the Bible; He has Given us His Holy Spirit. All man has to do is Choose the path he wants to take for his eternal destiny. God does not Send sinful man to hell and damnation. God has given man a Free Will to Choose his eternal destiny. Sinful man Sends Himself to hell and damnation by default, because he has Not Believed on the Name of Jesus, the Only Begotten Son of God. Man has to make this Choice while he is Yet Alive, for he Cannot Choose after he expires the First physical death.

    All Religions Do Not Lead to God! Many say that All Religions will lead to God, but this is Not true. All religious leaders such as Mohammed, Budda,etc, Do Not have Records of their Birth, Death, and Did Not Prophesy their Resurrection. There is "One Empty Tomb" in Jerusalem to prove this Fact! Jesus has 3 Geneologies Listed in the Old and New Testaments showing a Lineage from Adam and Eve to Joseph and Mary. Jesus had many Prophesies of His birth, ministry, suffering, crucifixion, death, and resurrection that preceded his life on earth by 1500 years. Jesus verily prophesied that after He was Crucified, He would be Raised up on the 3rd day and It came to pass. There were 40 Old Testament prophesies fulfilled on the day He died on the cross. Jesus’ life and death on the cross was a Sinless Sacrifice and Propitiation for the sins of ALL mankind, past, present, and future.Bible scholars say that Jesus was a Hypostatic Union of Humanity and Divinity. He was 100% man and 100% God and one drop of His Precious Blood was enough to Redeem All of mankind’s sins, past, present, and future. The Holy Scriptures say the Way is Wide but the Door is Narrow. Jesus is the Door to Eternal Life with Father God. “Jesus said unto them, I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: No man Comes unto the Father, But by Me.” (John 14:6 NKJV) This is Not to say that He is (A) Way, (A) Truth, and (A) Life, meaning there are Other Ways! NO,NO, Never! Jesus is the (Only) Way, the (Only) Truth, and the (Only) Life. His Righteousness is given to ALL who Invite Him into their Hearts, and Confess Him as Lord and Savior of their Life. Jesus Forgiveness and Justification of sin Allows the believer to come Boldly before God’s Throne to stand Faultless and in a time of Need, before Father God. “Let us therefore come Boldly unto the Throne of Grace, that we may Obtain Mercy, and Find Grace to help in time of Need.” ~ (Hebrews 4:16 KJV )

    The Great White Throne Judgment. Revelation 20:13-15 says, “Then I saw a Great White Throne and Him who Sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and Books were opened. And another Book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in
    the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the Lake of Fire. This is the Second Death. And anyone Not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the Lake of Fire. The Second Death is Not Cessation of Physical Life, but it is the Eternal Separation of Life from Jesus, the eternal source of life. God’s Word is His Will, and God’s Will is His Word. The Consciousness that we have in this mortal life is Immortal and Will Live for eternity; to be "Vividly Aware of eternal glory with God" or "Vividly Aware of eternal hell and damnation."

    Only a FOOL Would Choose Eternal Hell over the Simple Choice of Eternal Glory with God. John 14:6 says, Jesus said to him, “ I am The (only) Way, The (only) Truth, and The (only) Life. No one comes to the Father Except through Me.” The Word of God is Divine Truth; inspired by His Holy Spirit; it is self-evident truth, and it is beyond debate. The Bible
    was written and canonized over a period of approximately 1700 years by 40 different authors, Who Were All Inspired By the Holy Spirit of God. The Bible is ALL about Jesus and He is the Main Character in every book and All of the books are in harmony with Jesus as the Central Theme of Man’s Salvation. There is Not One book that contradicts Any of the other books.

    Jesus is the "Living Word of God." In the King James Bible there are 66 books, 1189 chapters, 31,102 verses, 773,746 words, and 3,566,480 letters. Now imagine taking All these Books, Chapters, Verses, Words, and Letters, and wrapping them all over every square inch of Jesus’ body and then covering Him with Flesh. The apostle John constantly refers to Jesus as the "Word of God" in his Gospel and in his book of Revelation. (John 1:1,14; Revelation 19:13,16) “And He [Jesus] was clothed with a Vesture dipped in Blood: and His Name is Called the "Word of God." And He [Jesus] has on His Vesture and on His Thigh a name written, King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Jesus is the "Word of God" Who became flesh and dwelt among us. (John 1:14) Believers are the flesh Who Become the Word as we Study and Meditate on the Holy Scriptures. “You are Our Epistle Written in our Hearts, Known and Read by ALL men; clearly you are an Epistle of Christ, Ministered by us, Written Not with INK but by the "Spirit of the Living God," Not on Tablets of Stone but on Tablets of Flesh, that is, of the Heart.” ~ (2Corinthians 3:2,3) And you Shall know the Truth and the Truth Shall Make you Free.” ~ (John 8:32)

    Dr. Lewis S. Chafer, Dallas Theological Seminary founder, sums up the Bible in 5 topical
    words in his Christian Theology. Christ is the Central Theme of Scripture, and as bearing on His Person, the Bible books are classified as:
    1.) Old Testament as the “Preparation” for the Coming Christ;
    2.) Four Gospels as the “Manifestation” of Christ (Jesus’ Ministry);
    3.) Book of Acts as the “Propagation” of Christ's Spirit (His Church Growth);
    4.) Epistles as “Explanation” of the Preparation, Manifestation, and Propagation of Christ;
    5.) The Book of Revelation as the “Consummation” of Christ and His Church.
    The Glorious Consummation of the Creator God with His Redeemed Creation, the Church; the Bride of Christ shall "Behold Him" and Become "One With Him" and Eternally Joined With the Father. (1John 3:2)

    Logic Dictates if the Premise is True, the Conclusion is True Also. The Word of God has a "Truthful premise" and ends with a "Truthful conclusion." Atheist!, your name will be found in the Book of Life IF you Invite Jesus into your Heart and Confess with your Mouth and Believe in your Heart that Jesus is your Lord and Savior of your life. God declares in His Word, the Bible way to heaven is; Choose Jesus as your savior. God’s Word is His Will; His Will is His Word. “That if you confess with your Mouth the Lord Jesus and Believe in your Heart that God has Raised Him from the Dead, you will be saved. With the Heart one Believes unto Righteousness,& with the Mouth Confession is made unto Salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever Believes on Him Will Not be put to shame. For there is no Distinction between Jew and Greek, for the Same Lord over ALL is Rich to ALL Who Call upon Him. For “Whoever calls on the name of the Lord Shall Be Saved.” (Romans 10:9-13 NKJV) Atheist!, May God Grant you the Wisdom to Choose between Heaven and hell; Non-Smoking or Smoking. Amen!

    The Bible is all about Jesus. Martin Luther called John 3:16 "The Heart of the Bible, the Gospel in Miniature." It’s so simple a Child can Understand IT; Yet IT Condenses the Deep and Marvelous Truths of Redemption into these few Powerful Words of Absolute Assurance: The following verse, John 3;16 from the King James Bible, is the greatest promise to man for Eternal Life from God, the Creator of All mankind.
    "God" ~ The Greatest Lover.
    "So Loved" ~ The Greatest Degree.
    "The World" ~ The Greatest Number.
    "That He Gave" ~ The Greatest Act.
    "His Only Begotten Son" ~ The Greatest Gift.
    "That Whosoever" ~ The Greatest Invitation.
    "Believeth" ~ The Greatest Simplicity.
    "In Him" ~ The Greatest Person.
    "Should Not Perish" ~ The Greatest Deliverance.
    "But" ~ The Greatest Difference.
    "Have" ~ The Greatest Certainty.
    "Everlasting Life ~ The Greatest Possession.

  • ARMYOF69

    Graft and corruption is what won that election, with plenty of lies to go with that.

  • D. Guardian

    America reached its zenith in 2001, after that its all down hill, a spiral for which there is no recovery in the foreseeable future. Sad. The people who can do something are to busy sitting on their rumps, stealing the future from under all of us.

  • frank p.

    I believe allowing illegals to vote by itself is wrong.

  • Bobby Liguori

    I narrowed it down to 3 types of people who voted for Obama;either the're stupid,their heads are firmly in the sand or just downright evil.

    • Jim David

      Two strikes. While you're accusing people of being stupid, try "they're." When you use "the're stupid" and "their stupid" it makes it look more like you are declaring "I'm stupid."

  • mogul264

    What the Catholics, Christians, Jews and similar religions, even agnostics, have not done is challenge the militant non-believers on the principles and precepts of the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, laws, rules, and regulations! These do NOT require us to accede to 'atheism' as a state-supported "religion"! There is NO requirement to BE an atheist, either! However, there is NO such phrase given, nor is there any requirement for us to PROVIDE them 'freedom FROM religion'! As it is stated, quite succinctly, there will be NO state supported religion! Therefore we are granted freedom OF religion, our unforced selection of whatever or whichever WE choose! We have expanded this to include the atheists' freedom to choose NONE, as THEY desire!

    All our documents regard God as a factor in our establishment of government, our Congress is opened by prayer, and oaths are (or were, at least originally) uttered by placing one's hand on the Bible to swear or affirm the spoken truth, therefore God IS a defacto part of our government! If the militant atheists do not like our form of government, they can petition for change, as can any of us, and let us vote on the subject, or (my personal favorite for them)............ just LEAVE!

    • Jim David

      " If the militant atheists do not like our form of government, they can petition for change.."

      Exactly. So then why does every article on this website that reports any such attempts to petition the government for change, treat them with outrage, with accusations of Nazi and fascist tactics, with acidic contempt; and why is the comment section filled with spitting rage, death threats, name-calling, and (as you include) suggestions that they should leave the country?

  • Sam

    Three million Republicans did not vote. One percent voted Libertarian. Obama stole the rest and came away with a narrow victory that will spell the end of this once great Republic. It is now in the hands of thieves, thugs, athiest, unions, and government drones.

    • YourPoliticsLost

      Obama stole nothing, you just like lying to feel better about your crappy political positions that lost.

  • darkcyder

    This is a result of peoiple of faith giving up the public school system, the government buildings, and all other things public to the ACLU, which is the throne of the "nones". Until we take back the public square, we are stuck with this situation, and it will only get worse. The first ammendment guarantees us that we need not back down.

    • Jim David

      The First Amendment most certainly does not guarantee any religion the right to "take the public square." As a matter of fact, that is exactly what it prohibits. If you disagree, your argument is with the Supreme Court.

      • darkcyder

        The first amendment allows any person to take the public square, and not be arrested or in any way hampered for his words. You are clueless. In the early days of the republic, this was done in the public square, where educated people talked on any number of topics. Lately, religion has been pushed out of that square. If you believe otherwise, then you are clueless. The constitutions tells the government that they must allow all types of speech. Separation of church and state is not in the constitution, it is in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson, and is intended to reflect the government staying out of religion, not the other way. ALL that is disallowed by the constitution is the government establishing any religion as the official religion of the country.

        • Jim David

          I was referring to darkcyder's use of public square to mean " public school system, the government buildings, and all other things public." As I said, argue all you want, but the Supreme Court has consistently interpreted the First Amendment along the lines of separation of church and state as described by Jefferson in his letter.

        • darkcyder

          That is a sad interpretation of the constitution.

        • Jim David

          Funny, that's how it's primary author interpreted it too. The "separation" phrase comes from Jefferson clarifying the importance of the First Amendment.

          You ask why non-believers are aggressive toward Christians? These attempts to rewrite history in your favor are one of the primary reasons.

        • darkcyder

          You reveal, yourself as clueless. It is you who would like to rewrite history. Jefferson's letter was to reinforce the fact that the government should stay out of religion, not the other way around. America was founded based on christian principles, and idiots like you have moved in and misinterpreted what was originally intended. You will reap what you have sown.

  • MalikTous

    The election was stolen by necromancy! Too many votes were cast with IDs of dead people by ACORN members! As a non-Christian I'm still proud to have voted against the illegal alien BHO and will not consider him - or Klinton, LBJ, or Carter - legitimate in office; everything those un-American scum did should be repealed and discarded!

    • YoureAnIdiot

      You're an idiot.

    • CARLjr

      Any proof of your claims? You do know that ACORN folded in 2010, right?

  • Joanne13


    Let's NOT forget that military votes were either not delivered on time OR lost in transit, etc. If those in the military had been given their RIGHTS as American citizens to have THEIR votes taken and COUNTED Ob probably wouldn't have pulled off his 'faux win'.

    There's a movement right now for people to contact all the Republican Governors and tell them to DELAY the Electoral College vote until EVERY military ballot cast is counted. There's very LITTLE time to do this since the vote is on Dec. 17th!

    I've already given money to two separate websites that are sending faxes to those Governors (and Congress) and I'm trying to get more people to do so. Yes, it may be throwing money away but it's the LAST BEST EFFORT to give our military the respect they DESERVE! If it can be accomplished it COULD turn this travesty around.

  • Jack Parker

    A combination of election fraud, Santa Clause gov't and circumventing the 22nd Amendment will ensure that we have BHO, "President for Life".

    • YourPoliticsLost

      Nonsense you tell yourself so you don't have to accept that your politics lost.

  • mcclain

    these people who are threatening blood in the street should be arrested and put in jail. it is about time that these union thugs and the people who support them encluding now the president should be let known that we are mad as hell and we are not going to take it anymore! that encludes all the democrats who think power is the only way to go.



  • Robert Alexander

    These freaks of mans depravity have NO moral compass and are two faced dirty scoundrels who can only deceive others into getting their way - not any legitimate no not one sound reason does their cause have.

    TOO BAD that Christians have the WRONG feelings for the WRONG people to support instead of feeling GUILTY without a cause they should feel guilty because of Gods cause.

    These demons in mens skin are HATEFUL to themselves & Jesus/The Yahweh.

    Psalms 36.1 The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes. 2 For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful. 3 The words of his mouth are iniquity and deceit: he hath left off to be wise, and to do good. 4 He deviseth mischief upon his bed; he setteth himself in a way that is not good; he abhorreth not evil.

    Modern Translation starts: The lawbreaker speaks so as to SIN in himself.

    Deuteronomy 28.
    15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of יהוה (YAH) thy Elohim (God,) to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out. 20 יהוה (Yahweh) shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.

    Deuteronomy 5.9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I יהוה (Yahweh) thy Elohim (God) am a jealous El (God,) visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

    Proverbs 6.12 A foolish man and a transgressor goes in ways that are not good.
    Proverbs 16.29 A violent man puts desire of evil into his neighbour's mind, and makes him go in a way which is not good.
    Proverbs 29.16 When the wicked are multiplied, transgression increaseth: but the righteous shall see their fall.
    Proverbs 2.22 But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it.
    Psalms 37.38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
    Proverbs 22.14 The mouth of a lawbreaker is a deep CESSPOOL; and the one being detested by The Everliving shall fall into it.

  • David Hodges

    We are to do the nominating, according to Exodus 18: 21: "Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, and rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens." God is to do the electing, according to Deuteronomy 17: 15: "Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the Lord thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother." Isn't it strange that the idea of having only free, white Christian males voting, holding public office, or performing jury duty is abhorrent to those who don't want to go back to live in their own lands, and be ruled by their own people?