California Set to Become Northern Mexico by Summer’s End

There are millions of Hispanics that have come to the US legally over the years and have settled in all parts of the nation.  To them, I say welcome, because they use the legal process to come to America and have every right to be part of this country like all legal immigrants have the right to.

However, the Obama administration refuses to secure the US–Mexico border, allowing millions of illegal Hispanics to cross into the US on a regular basis.  Some illegals have been here in the US for three generations, living off the welfare of US taxpayers and still speaking little or no English.

The influx of Hispanics, legal and illegal have helped increased their numbers tremendously over the years, which has affected businesses, schools and governments.  In many communities within 100 miles of the Mexican border, non-Hispanics are the minority.

In the state of California, the increase in Hispanics has been so great that by the end of this year, it has been projected that they will become the majority ethnic group in the entire state.  If the current trends are held, Hispanics will equal the number of non-Hispanic whites by the end of July with both accounting for 39% of the total population.  By the end of August, Hispanics will take the lead and probably not look back.

Part of the reason can be seen by the liberals running California that have basically adopted Obama’s policy of welcoming in the illegals with open arms and giving them all kinds of benefits paid for by a state that is bankrupt.

However, there are a couple of other reasons why there will be more Hispanics than non-Hispanic whites by the end of the year.  One is that the birth rates to non-Hispanics in California have been declining.  This could be due to the increase in homosexual couples and a decrease in the number of marriages in the state.  Many couples are opting to just live together and not have children, partially because they both have to work in order to survive with the high cost of living in many parts of the state.

Another reason is that in the past two years, a number of non-Hispanics have been moving out of California.  Most of the reasons for leaving range from the high tax rates, the high cost of living to the liberalness of the government and schools.

The overall changes in ethnicity have had a direct impact on the number of kids living in poverty in the state.  It is estimated that 40% of students in California live at or below the poverty level.  Twenty percent of all students just happen to be non-native English speaking indicating that the largest groups within the Hispanic population are children and young adults.

So, in just seven months from now, California could change its name to Northern Mexico or Northern Latin America.


  • Screeminmeeme

    Ever hear of La Raza and the radical Reconquista movement? Well, you're watching it happen in America today as more and more illegals pour into the US Southwest.

    Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza (The Race) lies its real agenda of taking back parts of the US for Mexico. In the recent past, it was this agenda that led to thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions. Be prepared for more of the same once Obama starts to push his immigration reform bill.

    Along with La Raza, key among the secondary organizations pushing Reconquista is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.

    MEChA was in fact reported to be one of the main organizers of those street demonstrations we witnessed over the past few years. That explains why those hordes of illegal immigrants weren't asking for amnesty -- they were demanding an end to U.S. law, period. Unlike past waves of immigrants who sought to become responsible members of American society, these protesters reject American society altogether, because they have been taught that America rightfully belongs to them.

    One of America's greatest strengths has always been taking in immigrants from cultures around the world, and assimilating them into our country as Americans. Being an American citizen means assimilation into our culture, learning our language, and being loyal only to America.

    But this idea is vehemently opposed by MEChA. To the hordes of illegal immigrants pouring across our borders, they say:

    "Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we...should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot...AZTLAN was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas ... It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny." (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006)

    MEChA and the La Raza movement teach that COLORADO, CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA, TEXAS, UTAH, NEW MEXICO, OREGON and parts of WASHINGTON state make up an area known as "Aztlan" -- a FICTIONAL ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA.

    These are all areas America should surrender to "La Raza" once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles (July of this year) and according to them, the current borders of the United States will simply be extinguished.

    Their plan is what is referred to as the "Reconquista" or reconquest, of the Western U.S.
    But it won't end with territorial occupation and secession. The final plan for the La Raza movement includes the ETHNIC CLEANSING of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of "Aztlan."

    As Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge's MEChA chapter has been quoted as saying: "The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan and COMMUNISM would be closest to it in ideology. Once Aztlan is established, ETHNIC CLEANSING would commence: NON-CHICANOS would have to be expelled -- opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power."

    [Nevermind that America purchased the land from Mexio at the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hildago on Feb 2, 1848, ending the Mexican War. Mexico was paid a total of $18 million+ for land won in the war and established a boundary for Texas at the Rio Grande, and the United States annexed Mexico's northern provinces.]

    These bizarre statements by MEChA and its agenda are coming straight from the official MEChA sites at Georgetown University, the University of Texas, UCLA, University of Michigan, University of Colorado, University of Oregon, and many other colleges and universities around the country, and not from some fringe website.

    The two-sentence motto of La Raza is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: "For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada,".......''For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing''.

    The motto and the Reconquista movement ought to be condemned as repugnant, racist, and totally incompatible with American society or citizenship.

    Excerpts from article in Human Events. Entire article is found at: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=13863

    ''The Truth About La Raza''
    by Rep. Charlie Norwood
    04/07/2006

    • Screeminmeeme

      Mexicans here and in Mexico are rather upset by the recent enactment of stricter anti-illegal alien laws by Arizona 's governor.

      New Immigration Laws: Read to the bottom or you will miss the message........

      1 There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.

      2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.

      3. All government business will be conducted in our language.

      4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.

      5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office

      6 Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.

      7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

      8. If foreigners come here and buy land... options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

      9.. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.

      10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted &, when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.

      Too strict?......
      The above laws are the current immigration laws of MEXICO !!!
      These sound fine to me. NOW, how can we get these laws to be America 's immigration laws??

      WAKE UP, AMERICA - we are about to lose our country.........

      • Patriot

        Hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander!
        Most countries take defending their borders seriously. Not us.
        When it comes to our borders we are COWARDS!

      • tony

        You're a little late...it's gone.

      • Patriot

        Sounds like a game plan to me! We need to adopt their common sense rules!

      • Seewcrazy

        Screem, thank you for bringing al this up. Many people do not know most of this. We are being destroyed by a government soft on those who break our laws and scoff at us with disprect. They have been doing it for many years.

      • fisherman

        Again you are correct. This is the same set of Mexican laws that I looked up and try to tell people all the time. Too bad we have too many crooked people in Washington that are only looking for votes whether they are legal or illegal.

    • Patriot

      La Raza (the race) is comprised of a bunch of racist!

      • Seewcrazy

        make that militantly racist.

    • Colleen Smith

      Yes, this is all factual but what is left out is the New World Order. These people may establish their racist nation but it will be wiped out by Agenda 21 and the United Nations in due time. If we do not stop Agenda 21 which is the promoter of the broken borders to perpetuate these problems in the first place, we are w/o hope. Also, The US IS a Christian nation. Anything else isn't the US. Samuel Adams said, "Acknowledge the Divine Source of Liberty." I agree.

      • Seewcrazy

        Colleen I see some really good comments here, and yours is right on as well!!

    • hpinnc

      Who will give them social assistance,food stamps for their 14 children & health insurance.Is California what Aztlan will look like?If so,they will be negging us to take them back in 3 or years.

      • Screeminmeeme

        hpinnc....Good question.

    • Melia Sese

      Except they conveniently leave out one important fact - there were very few actual Mexicans living in that part of their country prior to 1848. As for the Aztecs, they lived in the area roughly running between Guadalajara and Puebla, centered on today's Mexico City. The La Raza movement doesn't begin to speak for all Mexicans, either in the US or in Mexico. Assimiliation has already taken place, as most of them have learned English (or their kids grow up speaking it). I know they just love hearing that ...

      • Screeminmeeme

        Melia Sese...Correct. The myth of Aztlan is driving this movement just as the myth of a Marxist utopia is what drives the Obama agenda. Of course not all hispanics are involved with these groups and should identify themselves as people who want to assimilate, become Americans, and not follow the extremist views of Reconquista. The younger generation seems to be the target group of the movement.

        About immigrants to America, Teddy Roosevelt said:

        "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and ASSIMILATES himself to us, he SHALL BE TREATED on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin.

        But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be NO DIVIDED ALLEGIANCE here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all.

        We have room for but ONE FLAG, the American flag... We have room for but ONE LANGUAGE here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but ONE SOLE LOYALTY and that is a loyalty to the American people."

        There is nothing wrong with knowing a dozen languages or honoring one's ancestry and national traditions...but if one wants to be an American, he must be committed in every way to it.

        • Melia Sese

          Ah, meemee, whether we like it or we don't like it, this is already a bilingual society and becoming more so by the day. Ranting against it will do nothing to change that. Consider the growth rate among the (Catholic) Latin community in the US vs. anyone else and then try to tell me that only (American) English will be the language of the land. In another 20 years or so, this will be a fait acompli ... (LOL - sorry for the French!).

        • Screeminmeeme

          Melia Sese........So, you believe if would be okay if a bunch of Swedes immigrated to France and not only refused to learn the language but insisted that the French government print everything in the teo languages....that Swedish translators be made available in schools...that road signs be posted in Swedish also, etc?

          This is insane. If you go to France, learn French if you want to be able to function in their culture. If you go to Italy, Russia, Brazil....learn the languages of those cultures and don't expect the culture to adapt to your whims.

          Same with America. If you come here, learn to speak English. Period.

          If a person wants learn many languages fine. But in our culture.....stores, government offices, Sec of State for driver's licenses, etc.....speak English...or leave.

        • Melia Sese

          Nothing of the sort ... now try to follow me, here. Comparing our situation to Europe makes little sense as most Europeans know several languages. This has always been the case, mostly because their countries are very close together. Furthermore, they already have what amounts to "open borders" within the confines of the EU. BTW, road signs tend to be pictoral, precisely because of the language differences (we've done much the same in N America).

          Regarding the US, just about every Latino I know (and also the ones I don't know, LOL) is well aware that s/he must learn English to be truly successful here, and furthermore, the younger generations who grow up here actually do learn it. This mirrors the experience in the past where the first generation had trouble with the language but the kids did fine. This goes for any and all immigrant groups, Asian and African as well as European. I'm not sure you realize this, but English is actually a difficult language for many to learn, due to the spelling and pronunciation variations (Spanish is really much easier, and so is Italian), so it takes time for adults to master it.

          But you are incorrect about this still being a monolingual society. Everywhere I go in Florida I see signs in Spanish (the same was true in California), perhaps this may not hold in some areas like Maine or Alaska but if there is enough demand, they will erect them in those states too. Why? It's not complicated. Businesses want to make money, so they do what it takes to reach a potential customer. Government in many states already conducts business in several languages, not just Spanish and English.

          Hey, I didn't make the rules. If you have a problem with it, try contacting your local representation and see what their response is, but I believe this is becoming like Don Quixote fighting the windmills. The game is over and we have changed as a society and we're not going back. There does not exist a majority any more to enforce "English only" policy. Besides, there are more important battles to be won today, like standing up to executive-branch tyranny. Can't do that unless we are united in opposition and unless we stop the circular firing squad that passes for debate these days.

      • fisherman

        Melia, you are right that there were actually very few Mexicans living in all the Southwest area. I read in a history book that in the whole Southwest were not quite 1000 Mexicans total. It was Indians.

    • Douglas W. Rodrigues

      If the Mexicans actually took political control of American land, those areas would turn into a $h** hole just like the Country of Mexico. Unfortunately, the Mexicans are too stupid to realize that, and the American politicians are too stupid to NOT refuse to be politically correct. Since the American public votes in the very politicians who created this immigration mess, the voting public has the government that they deserve.

      • tim

        Some cities in California already have like Bell.

    • fisherman

      Screeminmeeme, your facts are absolutely correct. I am so sick and tired of hearing "we stole this land from them". Which you pointed out that we paid for it and also I read in a history book that we also paid off three other country's bills that Mexico borrowed to pay for their war against us.

  • Screeminmeeme

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  • ICOYAR

    The border should have been secured a long time ago. I have no problem with legal immigrants, but ALL illegals should be deported no matter what.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1315515107 Alan Smith

      And their ancor babies

      • disqus_lG5sp0Rldd

        There should be no such thing as an "anchor baby". That was wrong to start with.

        • jabwocky

          Actually anchor babies made the babies of slaves American citizens, and as such was a good idea, BUT it never should have lived past slavery..

        • Abiathar

          So, jabwocky, it was a "good idea" to use the "anchor babies" rule to destroy the economy/culture of the old South, but it is not a good idea to use it to destroy the rest of the US?

        • jabwocky

          There is a huge difference, slaves were not brought here voluntarily, to force the deportation of their children, but make them stay you think is a good idea?? Without the slaves, the old South/this country would have been WAY different.. there is no way you can link anchor babies to the destruction of the economy and culture of the old South..

        • Donald York

          That's one part of the Constitution that needs to be changed.

        • theodorej

          We can thank that Irish pudding head Justice Brennan with his decent on immigration policy as it applies to birth rite several years ago...

    • hpinnc

      Now you are going to "huurrrt" their feelings.I'm sure the democrats just loove ALL these hispanic votes.It makes one wonder what the extra 6000 guards do, that they put on the borders just a few years back,maybe 2007,can't remember.I work in a business that the US Senator for my district used to frequent quite often One day I approached him,& after a morning greeting, I asked him what was being done to curb the infux of illeagal immigrants, He said to me,oh,{ my name} we have just put 6000 new guards on the border,then's when I asked him ( he's dem,I'm repub.} Sen,,what are they doing down there? Read my lips,"they aren't getting the job done." He then asked me what I would do.I proceded to tell him,I would put up signs in english,hispanic, & all the other neccessary languages that my comimttee recomended. NO TRESPASSING past this point,VIOLATORS WILL BE SHOT ON SIGHT., then I would string costatina wire from the Atlantic to the Pacific,then I would set up 50 cal. machine guns every 100 yards apart,with instructions to shoot anything that moves passed the signs He looked at me like I had some kind of plague.As he turned & walked away,he looked back over his left shoulder & said,oh,------,we couldn't do that.I wanted to ask him why not? This is our country if we want to protect our borders,we have every right to do so.The communist-bloc countries used to do it to keep their people in,why couldn't we do it to keep people out? You wouldn't have to shoot many before word would get around.Those crazy gringos will shoot your ass if you try to slip across the border.Now before anyone acuses me of being racist or hating hispanics,I know some very outstanding hispanics,who have come here legally & done quite well for themselves.The politicians are a bunch of wimps & they don't want to do anything,if they did it would have already been done.

    • pat

      I have a real problem with legals when they are getting fully supported to be here, like the Muslims, and especially when they hate us. That is costing us millions while the press does a look at the birdie over Mexican illegals. . My family came here as white slaves in the late 1600's, and yes there were thousands of white slaves, and no one handed them anything, took 3 generations to buy out all their freedoms and be able to go where they wanted and get places of their own. They fought in the Revolution and every war since, and took this country to heart as their own. The new immigrants, legal or not, do not do that. They are here to drain off money, and send it back to their own countries. They have no loyalty to us. I would like to see any immigrant leave.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LyneilA Lyneil Vandermolen

    RINO's continue to push an amnesty because they think it's what hispanics want. However, each amnesty that Republicans advocate cost them more hispanic votes, starting in 1986 and ending with the 2007 amnesty attempt. Yet they continue to push for another mass legalization, because they misread all the data. Republicans don't offer as many free goodies as Democrats and that's the end of it.

    • Patriot

      If I was an Hispanic who went through the proper procedures to gain my Citizenship legally, I'd be damn if I would support anyone attempting to gain entrance illegally! I just don't understand the logic or emotion of that position.

      • ste1021

        Unfortunately, they support their illegal brothers.

        • Patriot

          Perhaps. Doesn't say much about their level of intelligence however.

      • Seewcrazy

        Patriot I don't understand thst myself. I wouldn't support them either. I live in texas, and many of our home grown Mexicans do support illegals, some do not however. Old atagonisms still live in the minds of some, and hey see their superiority in iIspanic numbers as revenge. What a mentality! But there it is.

      • fisherman

        I have a friend that came here with her husband and young son a few years back from Brazil. She was a surgical nurse and he was a dentist. It took them 10 years before they were allowed to legally immigrate and they had to provide into a bank account, $10,000 for each person that they couldn't touch close to a year and had to be sponsored by someone and have an idea of what they would do for a job. She is so angry at what the illegals are doing and the hoops that they had to go through to become a citizen.

        • Patriot

          We all need to play by the rules. Those that don't mustn't be given a free pass! I feel for you friends. I can understand her anger. Who couldn't empathize with them?

    • ste1021

      There's no way the Republicans can outdo the dems. That's why the Republicans will never elect another president. They will be relegated to enclaves (states) which they'll control but won't be able to win in the electoral college.

      • Ted Crawford

        I'm only waiting to see how long it will take the clueless racist such as Colin Powell. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, James Clyburn, Barrack Obama, ETC. to realize that it will be Luis Gutierrez and company that will inherit this Socialist Utopia they are bussily creating and Blacks will still be in the minority!

        • Patriot

          Until they get their heads out of their butts, they will always be the abused minority. They are, were they are, due to their own doing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donna-Casas/1530991238 Donna Casas

    I've lived in California for a long time and watched it become more liberal and more out of control through the years. I'm about done with this state and looking for a new place to live

    • ggswede

      Bet I get to the border before you ?

    • ARETHEYNUTS

      I lived In Redondo beach for 53 years, then I moved to Santa Monica. After 1 year in Santa Monica I had enough and packed everything and moved to Arrowhead Ranch Arizona. I love it, it cheaper to live, all other expenses are less and I can own a gun. I will never go back home.

    • ste1021

      Come to Nevada. No state income tax!

      • Patriot

        We're leaving to Nevada in a couple of months and cant wait!!!

      • USAmerican100

        Nevada is becoming like California.

    • Colleen Smith

      I would love to go to Oklahoma. They have proclaimed their sovereignty. I am in WA state and understand your misery quite well. I am on the coast and surrounded by brainwashed citizens soon to be subjects by their own lack of diligence.

    • Seewcrazy

      Get out as quick as you can.

  • tony

    The Unites States is a thing of the past, and Mexicans = Democrats because they have no sense of anything but survival and democrats promise them about everything they want...free. Capice? I've watched it for decades and condemn every single administration since the early turn of the century for it. Every one.

    • Patriot

      Capice? What's not to Capice?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jerry-Smith/100000454083900 Jerry Smith

    I have a feeling that in a few years you won't want to venture into southern California without a heavily armed security detail. If someone ever asks you to give them one good reason why it is disastrous to let liberals control a government for any length of time, just point your finger west.

    • Patriot

      You got that right! Also point to any major city which has been under their control for decades. Just look at photo's of the cities we dropped atom bombs on during WWII and look at them now! Now look at a city like Detroit! Point made?

  • pduffy

    And here's the reason given by the Holy Scriptures: (Deu 28:43)

    "The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower. He shall lend to you, but you shall not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail. Moreover all these curses shall come upon you and pursue and overtake you, until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep His commandments and His statutes which He commanded you. And they shall be upon you for a sign and a wonder, and on your descendants forever."
    This is the 'curse' that God promised if his people rejected his laws - we have rejected them, and now the punishment is coming to pass, right before our very eyes.

    • Colleen Smith

      Thank you for posting this pduffy. How profoundly true.

    • Derek Schneider

      God's Curse?

      Why is it that God is cursing us by sending other Christians to live in our midst (is this only a curse to the non-religious)? Since Mexico has a very loyal and devout Christian heritage (even more so than the United States), maybe your God just wants all his believers to be together in one land? If more people in this country would STOP believing in God, maybe the influx of these illegal alien Christians would cease?

      My argument is as valid as yours because I applied just as much logic (maybe more) and based it on the same complete and total fabrication (God).

      The biggest problem with the Republican party is the constituency. Many are hypocrites that base their platforms on their system of beliefs, and use Bible quotes to back up any premise they deem they should follow while giving interpretation to these quotes that meets their personal needs. I always find it amusing when people quote the Bible and say it is true because it is the "Word of God" when it suits their needs, but when asked about other passages that directly sanctify rape, spousal abuse, child murder, and animal sacrifice, why is the response that the interpretation is wrong, and "that's not what God meant"? Isn't it all the Word of God?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jerry-Smith/100000454083900 Jerry Smith

    Congress voted to build a wall along the Mexican border in 2006. What in the hell ever happened to that??? As for our "broken" immigratin policy that Obama always talks about, I have a solution. It involves several hundred buses and the National Guard. We could ship the illegals to the border, pay them to build the wall and make sure they wind up on the other side. Women and chldren go too, that way we don't break up the families.

    • ste1021

      What happened is that the voters, with the brainwashing of the MSM, are buying into Obama's plans for a bankrupt, socialist state filled with people dependent on the federal government.

    • Patriot

      I've long been a proponent of land-mine fields with the appropriate postings giving them advance notice/warning. Problem solved? Let the vermin and vulture clean up the mess!

      • dondehoff

        Patriot, see my response to Jerry---what you are suggesting is barbaric. Have you calculated just how many mines would be required? There is over a thouand miles of Mexican border and much of it is remote and inaccessable. Also mines are not just laid out in a single line, they are placed randomly over a width of several feet, perhaps yards---you are taking about millions, and just like the fences, they are readily deactivated and/or avoided.

        • Patriot

          Barbaric? Savagely cruel? Exceedingly brutal? I Think not.

          If they enter illegally, and persist even after proper warning having been given, they have no expectation of survival. There is a distinct difference between compassion and stupidity!

          I specifically suggested that appropriate warnings be given. If they fail to heed those warnings, then they are the ones with the problem. They would be responsible for any brutality visited upon them.

          Jesuits have long stated that we should love our neighbors. They also preach that it doesn't mean we are to love our neighbors more than ourselves.

          We are not talking about j-walkers here. We are talking about enemies invading our country at great cost to us.

          If you believe land-mines aren't appropriate then how about just declaring open season? How about armed drones? Or perhaps we could just invite them to a candlelight dinner with a fine bottle of Chianti on the shores of the Rio Grande? Afterwards, we could sit around and sing Kumbayah?

          If someone is entering this country illegally, I see no difference between that and someone breaking into someone's home in the middle of the night. Sorry. I have absolutely no tolerance. We are being invaded. The barbarians are and have been at the gates for years. It's time to beat back the hordes.

          As far as logistics I'll defer to your experience. As far as cost, what are illegals costing AMERICAN taxpayers yearly, how many crimes are being committed yearly, how many hospitals are being forced to close down, what is it costing to incarcerating these people, what is the cost as to the damage they are doing to our culture? I for one don't care how the problem is taken care of, I just want it dealt with and dealt with decisively.

        • dondehoff

          Patriot, you just don't understand the magnitude to the problem. Right now, we have thousands of Mexicans, legally coming across the border, working the day, and then going home,most through established border crossings, bu many in rual How does a country mine a thousand miles of border and post it. We can not even build a workable fence, as there is mucch cross border traffic in rural and remote areas. Also much of the Rio Grande River is fished daily from both sides. And just where would one put the mines?--- surely not in the flood plains where the river frequently changes course. That leaves us with placing them on much private or leased land. And much of the state and federal land is very steep and rugged and there are no roads to carry in the mines. Already the limited fencing has created significant problems for the land owners, They frequently cannot legally get their livestock down to the river to drink.There would be far more innocents killed by mines than those illegals trying to cross the border. Also, a "team" can clear a path through a minefield in just an hour or so. I think your position is summarized in five words in your last sentence, "I for one don't care". I suggest you read about the "Killing Fields" in Cambodia, and surrounding areas---mines planted there many years ago, still manage to kill innocents every week in that part of the world. An additional thought, how could fire fighters do their jobs when forest or prairie fires start up---just let them burn?

        • Patriot

          You seem to be the one fixated on mine fields. I thought we moved beyond that? Perhaps you need to read my reply to you.

          I'm well aware of the remaining problems in Cambodia. Frankly, Cambodia is not my concern. Too bad for them, but just isn't my concern. Why don't they just clear a path in just an hour or so if it's that easy? :)

        • dondehoff

          Patriot, "Me" being fixated on minefields? You are the one advocating planting millions (yes, plural), of mines. Most, contrary to what the Geneva Convention requires, just can't be accurately documented as to their exact location and they soon, in effect become "loaded guns" laying about. I recall several years ago, hearing reports where such land mines, planted in the 1940s still occasionally were set off by deer and other large animals around the perimeter of the old atomic bomb research facilities in New Mexico. And in Cambodia, it is not an understatement to say "they were everywhere", and in those days the poor countries did not have mine/metal detectors that are available today in most any hobby shop.

      • http://www.facebook.com/mikepetsandpeopleinc Mike Weaver

        Only put the warnings in ENGLISH after all that is OUR Language.

    • pat

      walls mean nothing. they can be climbed over, tunneled under or sailed past.Also the wall was so far inland from the actual border, that Americans lost their land, and in many cases had to circle around the wall to get to their stock so they could feed it.

      • markinla

        This is stupid, the walls just don't sit there by themselves they are barriers that take some effort to get around, effort that gives the border patrol time to get to them and more easily catch them.

        • pat

          walls don't work, look at Berlin. There is a comment above us somewhere that hits the nail right on the head, there would not be a flood of illegals if there was not a financial payoff for coming. We don't need a wall, we need to stop the handouts. For both illegals and legals. All a wall does is create another expensive boondoggle building project, another government department to mismanage it, risk more of our boys' lives manning it. If there was NO money to be gained, no programns, no aid, no priviledges, then neither the illegals nor the legals would be here. We do not need mines, guns, wire or walls. Those are all attempts to put a barrier between them and something attractive. We need to remove the something attractive. Fully half the illegals coming through from Mexico are not even Mexican, they are Muslim.

        • markinla

          Berlin is a lousy example. There were not that many East Germans who made it to the west by climbing over the wall or tunneling underneath it. The wall in Germany did its job.

        • pat

          thousands made it over that wall. there would be weekly news stories about people who made it.

        • markinla

          WE do need to punish people who hire illegals and take welfare away but a wall is also needed and quite cheap compared to other options.

        • pat

          have you read about the wall we are building? talked with people who worked on it? it is hardly cheap, is located at some points 800 yards North of the actual border, cutting people off from their own property. the project is already a mess, making it bigger will just make a bigger mess

        • WeirdlyCOChick

          If you look at it, the whole argument here (and elsewhere), is based on PRINCIPLES. We MUST elect gov't representatives based on PRINCIPLES, NOT based on party. If proposed representatives have no track record that prove they have our conservative, Christian-based, Founding Fathers' PRINCIPLES at heart, DON'T vote for them! (Trying to understand people who voted for B.O. -- while his track record was that of a senator who merely voted "present" most of the time so that he had NO record. I still don't get it, unless it's really what Mitt's "unseemly" comment was all about: the promised freebies that bought votes.)
          We ALL need to get involved, at the LOCAL level, so that we know that we're later supporting those representatives whom we KNOW are actually supporting conservative values. And, if nobody [currently] running represents our values, we NEED to find someone -- and/or BE someone -- who DOES. Taking our country back ain't gonna be easy, folks! And it likely won't happen in our lifetimes. An idea: perhaps we conservatives need to create our OWN "New Leviathan," like the Left has, to win them at their own game. CHECKMATE!!!

        • pat

          I agree with that. The party lines are just that, lines. And the article by Charlie Reese is absolutely correct, if you have a chance to read it. The various crises we are facing right now did not self generate, they were created by our government , which now sells itself as needed because it is working on the problems. For those of us with faith and with an understanding of Scriptures, the direction we are heading and why is very obvious. I am sad for my nation, sad for the good people, sad for my children who are working hard under a crushing amount of public debt. It is hard to be in a time and place when so many have forgotten who they are and why they are here.

    • dondehoff

      Jerry, Congress finally realized that fences don't work. People go over, under or through them. I am sure you have heard of the many "tunnels" that have been found. A fence also destroy existing farm and ranch fields which frequently goes right down to the rivers edge. and how does one fence the very river? A fence down through the middle of the stream (which frequently changes course) would be very expensive and could not survive the major annual floods. Also, there are hundreds, perhaps thousands of legal workers who come across the border each day to work---how do we man the "border crossings"? Short distance fences for specific problems, such as next to towns, highways and bridges are workable, but over long distances they are just not practical or cost effective---i.e., they just "don't work", and fencing requires very costly upkeep and daily patrols to detect cutting, tunneling and weather damage.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/4AMF3B3OQZFEAOF5XX2GT4EJ2Y RobertD

        dondehoff; Land mines will work!

        • dondehoff

          Robert, I am a retired military officer and I believe you are at least 120% wrong. Land mines also kill pets, livestock,wild animals, innocent people and if you look to Cambodia, you can see even after 50 years, they still kill many innocents. And, just how many land mines would be required", millions? And as any military man knows, they can be removed to open up undedectible "lanes" of traffic. Also keep in mind hundreds, if not thousands of legal Mexicans come across the border at hundreds of locations. Also, every night, livestock and wild animals would be setting them off, and your method would exhaust many search teams, going to and from such explosions. And much of the border is so steep and inaccessable that mining could not be effeciently carried out--with just the logistics of getting to and from the many remote areas. Both mining and fencing would and does leak like a sieve.

      • markinla

        This is the stupidiest comment here. "Congress finally realized that fences don't work". How and when did this happen because they never did put a fence up to see if it would work. They put up a "virtual fence" that they knew would fail before the first contract was put out. It was only window dressing. Fences seem to work in Israel.

        • dondehoff

          "Mark...." you have caught the "gutter disease"; the is no excuse for such words as "stupidiest". Also, surely, you have seen several border areas onTV where the fences go as far as one can see, especially in California and in the proximity of the larger towns. Some fences have been along the border for many years. I have been to Israel (quite some time ago)---there, if you cross a border or fence and are detected, you might get shot----ditto for Korea, to which I was there several times at Kunsan AB (Now, being almost 81 years young, that too was a long time ago). Also, Keep in mind, both Israel and Korea are smaller than most of our states and the Mexican border is over a thousand miles long. That is analogous to keeping the foxes out of one's front yard as oppsed to the "back forty" (acres). The same situation or concept also applies to the screening of airline passengers----we screen more passengers in a single week (day?) than Israel does all year

        • markinla

          Stupidest does apply. The fence could have been completed 100 times over by now and is not. Pretending that "Congress learned" is ridiculous. What is wrong with shooting people who try to go over a fence? They are obviously up to no good.

        • dondehoff

          Mark..., I am tempted to agree on the "wording". However, fences (and mines) just do not work. We have several miles of fence installed right now----just what in the H--- do you think "they" are "tunneling" under, climbing over and going through----the clear blue sky? Also, are you going to put guards on all one-thousand miles of border? A goodly protion of that border is hardly accessible, in very remote mountainous terrain. Keep in mind there are thousands of legal Mexicans that come across the border every morning and go home at night, with a considerable portion not using established crossing points. Also, you would shoot someone for "climbing over a border fence", when in all probablity, it is some young boy or man coming to visit his girlfriend or he (or she) is looking for work? Those are the tactics of Hitler, the North Koreans, and a few others---I would like to think we, as a freedom loving country, are well above using those tactics. Can we substitute the word "barbaric" for stupid---perhaps use both?

        • markinla

          The places where the fence was put up did cause the illegals to go elsewhere. You make the leap that a half built fence isn't working so why build the other half - this is the level of your logic. That would be like only putting a lock on the front door and wondering why somebody still got into the house when there was no lock on the back door.

        • dondehoff

          "Mark...., obviously you have problems with logic and reason. Your analogy does not stand the test of of either of those tools. Instead of going through the locked door, "they" go through a fron or side window, basement or upstairs access or they just break down the door---there is no way we can watch all of the border, all of the time---we are talking about a thousand miles. And for every tunnel we detect and destroy, they build two more. When people are hungry and need work, laws and rules just do not apply. And, too many of the commenters don't realize that there are thousands of legals who come across border every morning and go home in the evening---how do you sperate the good from the bad? Also, you don't seem to understand most of the existing fencing is placed on private or leased land which makes the more valuable land between the fence and the river, useless. Also, It is cost prohibitive to place the fence in the "middle" of the river, as the seasonal flooding of the Rio Grande River, would destroy it---ditto for even placing it in the "flood plain". And no,the several miles of exising fencedd not, for the most part, cause the illegals to go "elsewhere", as it was too easy to go under, through or over it.

        • markinla

          The only people with the time and money to build a long tunnel are drug smugglers. It is ridiculous that a country that sent a multi-million man army to Europe and Africa 60 years ago can't keep illegals out of the country. You just don't want anything to be done about them because you probably hire them.

    • Seewcrazy

      Here's the latest. Our southern border radar defense is being dismantled. Now low level aircraft will be able to make it into the interior undetected. This is the doing of Obama, and he's also firing any general who will not take an oath to shoot citizens should we have martial law . He's in the process of dismantling our military as we write.

  • jas1019

    OK. Let's build the walls in Arizona, Nevada, Oregon and then let Mexico assume all of their debt.

    Then let's see how willing the California legislature is to turn over power to Mexico City. When they learn just how dirt poor the state will become and they can't tax themselves into prosperity. When the unions are dissolved.

    Let's see how happy San Francisco is when they learn about the heavily Catholic influence and the loss of the freedoms of differing lifestyles.

    When most of Hollywood's wealth is confiscated.

    When the drug lords are running everything.

    Yes sir, what a utopia it will be.

  • ste1021

    This is what happens when you penalize success and fill the place with the poorest, least educated people in the world.

    • PMDavis

      That's the whole point. Keep them ignorant but make them work and bringing in the taxes.

  • http://twitter.com/Wolfman4u Wolfman Smith

    Obama and other liberal politicians needs illegal aliens votes

    • PMDavis

      Do they not get that if these illegals gain the majority, they will be in control, not them?

    • Patriot

      They are the future of the democrat party!

    • Patriot

      Yes, they need illegal aliens. After all, we have one in the White House do we not?! :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/George-Fuller/1290373399 George Fuller

    The Family Reunification Visa Program simply moves villages from MX and Central America to the USA comprised primarily of uneducated, unskilled non English speaking people.....and one wonders why our welfare costs are skyrocketing and incomes are falling from the cheap labor?.....

    If we don't get a handle on illegal immigration and stop this stupid Family Reunification program we will lose the country to a sea of poverty and they did not have to fie a shot.........What an ending.........blame the liberal touchy feel y types in Washington and the Republicans allowing it to continue!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/George-Fuller/1290373399 George Fuller

    We have had troops for over 50 years guarding the border with N. Korea to keep them from infiltrating yeat we can't prevent drugs and illegal aliens by the millions from walking across our border.......? Look no further than Washington.....

    • Patriot

      Stupid is as stupid does. :)

      • dondehoff

        So it is with ignorance.

    • dondehoff

      Come on George, you are comparing apples with oranges. I am a retired military officer, and the circumstances in Korea have no simlarity whatsoever with the Mexican border. In Korea, people get shot for crossing, in either direction, with no questions ask. Here we have thousands of legal Mexicans crossing the border, twice a day, doing legitimate work and and have been doing so for eons. I will agree with you that it is a "Washington" problem.

  • Platinum

    Want to stop the influx of illegals from the southern border? Implement the following and watch the illegal southern border crossings halt in very short order.

    Construct a Two Hundred foot high re-enforced concrete and steel wall, two hundred feet in the ground 10 foot wide with a 24/7 365 manned guard post every 1/4 mile completely across the southern border from, Texas to the Pacific Coast of California. Those that man the guard posts are authorized to shot to kill any person that wishes to enter the United States illegally. If one is able to get to the top of the wall God bless them, if they are able to get over the wall without catching an 06 or a 308 slug in their head or back then they can stay.

    If those that wish to enter the United States illegally decide they want to tunnel under the wall that is fine also, once the tunnel is full of those that are stupid enough to enter the tunnel the tunnel is simply back filled with water. If America wishes to secure the southern border then America needs to get serious about doing so with teeth in what is done.

    To complete this task, use the illegals that are currently in the United States to construct the wall using the money that the IDIOTS in Washington are bribing the illegals with. Working 24/7 with US military supervision until the wall is complete, this process would not take more than 12 to 18 months working 24/7 365. Once the wall is completed then deport all that are illegal back to the hell hole they came from.

    • Patriot

      Would you have an objection to a mine-field? A bit messy but a hell of a lot cheaper and easily repaired and little to no maintenance!

      • krell51

        We have an excessive of spent nuclear waste laying around, bake it into posts 18" by 20' long and place every 4' along the border, that will solve the problem.

        • Patriot

          Hey, and we can get day laborers to dig the holes and put the posts in place. Might as well just get a head start on the project! :)

        • Patriot

          Yes, and makes it much easier to spot at night too! :)

    • dondehoff

      Sir, gross ignorance of both the problem and the solution. There is over a thousand miles of Mexican border. Here in the U.S., along our interstate highways, it cost about $80,000.00 per mile for just an 8 foot-high wire fence, to keep the animals off of the highway. The fence you are proposing would cost billions of dollars and take years to complete. We also have thousands of legal Mexicans crossing the border every day to work along that thousand miles, most using valid "check points" but many not, especially in the rural and remote areas. Also, much of the area in the "Big Bend" part of Texas and several other locations are inaccessable to vehicle traffic, which would further hender building even a barbed wire fence or a mine-field. Also, while not a "tie breaker", such fences would stop a lot of annual wild animal migrations. See my other posts and reconsider your suggestion. P.S. I have been to some of those remote areas, where there is considerable cross traffic in both directions that have being on- going for over a hundred and fifty years.

      • markinla

        We are spending a ton on welfare and schooling for them. The fence doesn't have to be that big but crying about a fence that costs even a million dollars a mile is ridiculous compared to how much they bilked us out of last year with phony dependent deductions on tax forms 4.2 billion.

    • Seewcrazy

      There is simply no will by this government to keep anyone out.

  • BigUgly666

    If that happens, who's going to support them?

  • /.murphy

    "California Set to Become Northern Mexico by Summer’s End"
    So? It was theirs first. It's just going to revert to its former status as Northern Mexico.

    • dondehoff

      Mr. Murphy, Both, the Southern parts of Arizona and New Mexico were purchased from Mexico in 1853 for ten million dollars via "The Gadsden Purchase". California came to the U.S as part of the 1848 treaty following the Mexican War. Both transactions followed the then established "rules of war", which most all countries followed in those days.

      • /.murphy

        Thanks. I know the history.

        I'm also a "Ms." "Murphy" is a nickname. You can just call me that.

    • markinla

      It was never Mexico except for some dumb belief that it was also part of Spain. The Apaches and Comanches were never Mexican citizens. Mexico let Anglos into Texas because few Mexicans wanted to go there. Mexico wanted the war with the US because they had a larger European trained army and they though they would beat the US and get Texas back and take part of Lousianna, It didn't work out that way.

      • /.murphy

        Uh-oh... Somebody needs to brush up on California history. California was squarely part of Mexico from 1821 to 1846. If you still think it was Spanish, you donkey, go read up on the General Law of Expulsion of 1827.

        • markinla

          Obviously you don't understand. Just because there was some flag sitting on top of a place doesn't mean they actually owned it. Yes the Mexican government was there, just like they were in Texas, Colorado, Arizona, and New Mexico. The only problem was that there were fewer Mexicans than there were Indians and the Indians weren't considered Mexicans by the Mexicans. Therefore calling it Mexico is a bit of a stretch.

        • /.murphy

          Huh? History is history.

        • /.murphy

          What's that braying sound I hear?

        • http://www.facebook.com/SpaceCowboy56 David Taylor

          Governor Pio Pico recognized that the Mexican government in Mexico City was too weak to hold onto California. England, France, even Russia were pushing down looking to appropriate California. Pico looked around, saw how much he and his people had in common with all the Anglos that had been around for generations, and was prepared to throw his lot in with the Gringos when that idiot Fremont started talking about usurping Mexican's property rights. That's when Pico pulled together a bunch of Vaqueros armed with nothing but picks and routed General Kearney to the top of Mule Hill. Once Pico was assured no one was messing with anybody's property rights, he threw in with the Gringos. This state was never truly a part of Mexico. There is no Aztlan, there never was. The Spaniards killed off the Indians in this state with disease, not guns. The Anglos as a military force never killed Indians, but the individual white guy hunted them like animals. (Jacumba Massacre Sim Mote). How ya' doin' John? Switched out that IP have ya'?

        • /.murphy

          You said: "This state was never truly a part of Mexico."

          Historians have been claiming otherwise for more than a century and a half. You'd probably better publish your findings and see where it all leads.

        • USAmerican100

          My family has lived in California for decades and the truth is totally different. Spain ran the place pretty well for 60 years, then lost to Mexico in their revolution. The Spanish troops and officials moved out of California, and in most places nobody took their place. American Indians reclaimed some of their lost lands including a few Missions, in other places Americans moved in. Mexico had a very weak presence, so while they might have stamped "Mexico" on a map of California, on the ground they controlled very little.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Jackson/100000056049077 Eric Jackson

    Beware of the government that can keep individuals out, because they can also force individuals to stay. The problem isn't illegal immigration. Never has been. It is the nanny state that attracts them. If there wasn't free everything waiting for them the lazy wouldn't come. Those that come to work their butts off and make a better life are welcome as far as I'm concerned, but opportunity in CA frankly sucks, so the ones that come aren't the ones looking for opportunity, but rather those who are here to demand handouts.

    • markinla

      Ridiculous, they cause problems in a modern state. Their low IQ kids have to be educated and "affirmative action" was expanded to them. They undercut wages lowering the tax base and putting more of the countries wealth into the top 1% leading to the weak economy we have now.

  • krell51

    Adios, and don't let the screen door hit you in the butt when you leave.

  • PMDavis

    Would someone please explain to me the goal or agenda of the liberals in welcoming in all these illegals, from Mexico, which are given all kinds of undeserved benefits and are running the state bankrupt and eventually the whole country? What will and are they going to accomplish or gain by this? I simply do not get the thinking of the liberals.

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbjeanpatton Barb Patton

    I wonder what would happen if all the whites left America and left the mexicans there to fend for themselves in the new Mexicornia?

    • Patriot

      They would either starve or kill each other. Just saying...

  • gbrittain

    I think we should give CA back to Mexico, if they'll take it including the loopy leftists and $500 B in unfunded pension liabilities.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jamid.shupe Jamid Jeremy Lee Sierra-Shupe

    I am an American, I will always be first and forever. I am of Hispanic decent meaning my ancestors are of Spanish decent. My ancestors are European and came to the new world as a means to start a new life. I hate it that Hispanic is used as a term for anyone that speaks Spanish. Let us call the elephant in the room what it is, there are illegal Mexican nationals heading north looking for a better life. But due to our welfare system and its willingness to make every child born in the united states a ward of the state, why would anyone want to better themselves. Our government is willing to give free food and money for housing to people who will never be Americans, they will always be Mexican as will be their children. These illegal immigrants are doing what is easiest for them and their family, even to the point of sending money home to Mexico. Now why do I know this, because I see it in my father-in-laws friends. He is here legally with his green card, but friends are here and using welfare for their kids while working under false SSN, selling drugs to make it by, and not wanting to improve their lives from eight people living in a two bedroom apartment. So let's call illegals what they are, Mexicans.

    • Patriot

      I'm in agreement with you. When we are required to identify someone, any Olive skinned person who speaks Spanish or looks Mexican, gets the label Hispanic. I don't think it's meant as a slur to Spanish people.

      Mexicans surely don't want to become Americans. They like many Puerto Ricans want to change America into their homeland!

  • JanBrewerMyHero

    Hey I would like to encourage everyone to check out numbersusa.com. Its free to join and you are not obligated to donate yet you can send faxes for free to the politicians. They are the largest and most influential anti illegal group in the US. They also strive to eliminate anchor babies, they push for employers to use E-verify and even call for reduced immigration levels so that Americans who need jobs can get them and not have to compete with foreigners. They grade politicians so you know exactly where they stand. Love this organization!

  • noelle2013

    it is damn time to make ENGLISH the NATIONAL LANGUAGE OF THE USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    The borders are NOT secure because this is what those evil bast#$S in the new world order want and sotero is there puppet just like bush was!!!!!
    AMERICANS WAKE THE F UP TO WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON AND PLEASE STOP THOSE CHANNELS THAT ARE FULL OF DECEPTION!
    fox news included!
    CNN MSNBC CBS NBC ABC FOX ALL NEED TO GO!

    Unless we do something soon Mexican illegals and liegals will BE THE LEAST OF OUR PROBLEMS
    CHINA IS THE MAJOR THREAT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!
    THIS COUNTRY GOT RICH OFF OF US AND THAT F-ING CONGRESS THAT PASSED NAFTA GATT AND THE OTHER TRADE DEALS THAT SHIPPED OUR MANUFACTURING COMPANIES OVERSEAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    CHINA MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO BUY UP OUR ENERGY COMPANIES LIKE THEY ALREADY HAVE WITH CHESAPEAKE ENERGY AND ALLOWED TO TURN THE USA INTO A CHINESE "DEVELOPMENT ZONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Edward53

      What is your favorite news channel,....Al Jazeera? At least FOX gives us all of the news instead of just part of it.

  • Katie

    It does NOT help to have elected officials offering drivers' licenses. It also does not help to have the laws selectively enforced. In LA, the police will allow someone here illegally to drive without questioning about licenses or insurance. Anyone else would have had their car impounded.
    Already, I've heard about one person being killed by someone who should not have been here who was driving.

  • sanman99

    They have turned my city into a urine smelling gang land. Crime is through the roof. I am mexican and am sick of mexicans.

  • sanman99

    go rent "They come to America" then come back and comment.

  • Jack Parker

    We have had more than enough immigration from third world countries. We can no longer afford your poor, your hungry, your sick, your deadbeats yearning for free housing, free food, free healthcare, free everything and disability. Stay home until you are ready to adopt the American language, culture and way of life and ready to earn your keep.

  • Georgiagirl64

    California deserves what they get. They are a living lesson to the rest of the country on why liberals are crazy.

    • markinla

      We didn't do it. It was the Republican Party who amnestied them thinking they would be their ni$$ers even though Mexicans never voted for the Republicans. Senator Pete Wilson shilled for the farmers and Reagan was just too stupid to have an intelligent thought about the issue.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donna-Casas/1530991238 Donna Casas

    I've been here for 36 years and I'm ready to move...just don't know where yet. I don't want to live in Mexico2.
    Politicians really screwed up when they didn't close the border years and years ago.

  • 820 REDHORSE

    They can have it!!!! But under one condition........they trash whorelywood & san fannicisco before the libs and celebs & pisslosi can escape!!

  • Melia Sese

    Well, take a look at this ... The area just below San Diego is called "Baja California" and it means lower California, so therefore they call the area to the north "Alta California" which means upper California. Further, they all claim the area was part of Mexico to begin with. I'm not sure they won't do a better job of running it than the Anglos are doing now ... Jerry Brown? Schwartzenegger? Gray Davis? Please ...

    • Patriot

      Hey Melia, you Californians do as good a job a Illinoisans in picking their elected officials. I do however believe Illinois has more Govenors imprisoned however! :)

      • Melia Sese

        LOL - except I haven't lived in the Golden State since 1996 (I'm a Floridian now and love life w/o state income tax). As for the leader on the state government corrupt-o-meter, allow me to nominate New Jersey (Cahill, Byrne, MacGreevey) or Maryland (Agnew, Mandel, Glendening) ... and those are just the ones in my lifetime.

  • Obummer

    It's already there. I live in very expensive area in SoCal and we are surrounded by Cities that have been overrun by illegal mexicans. All these cities that they settle in are horrifically unlcean. These people just import their filthy habits from down south and come to this state for the freebies. NEVER buy into the bullcrap theory that they come here looking for a better life like the European immigrants and these mexicans do not bring anything of value to our economy, they only serve to rob it of it's resources. They are taking over because they pay for nothing at all. They have their offspring for free, feed them for free, then send them to school for free and we then pay to incarcerate most of them or they continue the cycle by impregnating one of the many 14 year old whores in the neighborhood. They have destroyed CA. I happen to be married to a mexican woman that is wonderful but her entire family came to this country illegally and both parents do not speak English. They still wipe their asses and put the toilet paper in a trash can next to the toilet instead of flushing it down the drain because they still think they're in mexico. Most of them claim that CA is still mexico territory and all the while they think they are taking back what was once lost, they don't realize they are just moving the border further north. This minority group is filthy and disgusting.

  • quipster

    Heck let the mexs have california that way we can get rid of all them commie movie stars & the mexs. We can kill two birds with one stone!

    • rb92111

      I am a conservative who believes in finishing the border fence but there is one great thing about illegal immigration and that is that it will get rid of all the racists who hate all Mexicans ! These whites can move to another state to live with the remaking whites .blacks and Muslims !

  • freedomringsforall

    Wow is the USA ever living a delusion.

    From the border to 100 miles north of the Border in Texas the population is 98% Hispanic!

    Where have you all been!?

    It is northern Mexico here.

    Everyone speaks spanish.

    H you can hardly find even minimum wage jobs around here if you don't speak spanish or aren't bilingual.

    Heck the legal Hispanics down here call the illegals wetbacks and spics.

    This is so much like Mexico it is unbelievable.

    All US citizens should take a vacation to the Rio Grande valley in south Texas to see what their future looks like without borders!

  • Jeffrey Liggens

    This was a cheap shot at getting people to read this article. There are better ways to have broached the subject. The fact is that, the Hispanic population will be the majority in America by 2050, by some estimates. Let alone CA. http://articles.cnn.com/2008-08-13/us/census.minorities_1_hispanic-population-census-bureau-white-population?_s=PM:US

  • Abiathar

    The 'Hispanics' (code name for Mexican) will follow the stabilizing white culture where ever it leads. As California implodes, they will move on to other states creating the same economic/social blight. The problem is a corrupt social philosophy emanating from an apostate Christianity much evidenced by the "evangelicals" lobbying for "amnesty" for illegal aliens and "social justice" politicians inviting all to suck at the government teat. This heresy follows hard on the 'Christian' involvement in the "civil rights" movement of the 60's.

  • theodorej

    This is indeed a sad happenstance ..... The leadership in this country have been compromising our borders for many years and responsibility starts with Ronald Reagan when he enacted amnesty without closing the boarders....the remaining responsibility lies with those that benefit from cheap labor.... The selfishness combined with the stupidity of the masses have brought an end to the sovereignty of our borders..... Very Sad...

  • mobilebay

    Just read where Greece has cut its illegal immigration problem with Turkey by installing barbed wire barriers. It seems the whole world is having the problem of illegal immigrants invading other countries because of poverty or safety reasons. This is an upheaval so great, it is unparalled in history since the roving hoards in the middle ages.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

    Right about the time it becomes part of Mexico, that big earth quake weve been all expecting comes and sucks them under.

  • PostTosties

    These Mexicans might live here but it's still U.S. soil. That's what bugs them!
    As for them taking it back? Where are their reservations if it was ever really theirs? They usually scratch their heads with that one. "Me no no".

  • Laurence Almand

    As a former resident of California, I have witnessed the sad decline of a once-great state, a decline created by incompetent and unscrupulous politicians. The worst mistake our Congress ever made was to "reform" the immigration laws of 1965, opening the floodgates to Mexico and other Latin nations. Well, ruined California is just the first step toward the rest of the USA, alas. As a White male, I lived in California from 1969 to 1999 and watched it go from bad to worse because of the flood of lower-class immigrants. I now live in Nevada, one of the few states that has no state income tax - not yet, anyway.

  • William Wallace

    I live in Southern California and I see the effects of illegal immigration first hand. It's not just those from Mexico though. Europeans, Asians, and Africans also come here illegally, but just not in the same numbers you see in SoCal.

    My taxes are through the roof and the best part of it is that I price myself out of all the programs I pay for because I make too much. Go figure.

  • http://www.facebook.com/miles.green.5 Miles Green

    South of the border disorder... :(

  • http://twitter.com/WeepingSophia Pamela

    This United States is in a full blown war, with Mexico trespassing on U.S. sovereign territory and the traitors who support them. It is up to us, the American U.S. citizens to make sure, every Illegal Mexican Alien is forced out, along with their entire families, and traitors be severely punished.

  • http://twitter.com/WeepingSophia Pamela

    1st. We take peaceful steps, like we always have. Starting today, you get your friends, family and every American, who stands with this United States, our sovereignty, our flag, our fellow Americans, and call your Senators & Representatives, every single day, every possible time you can (we all have cell phones, we can call on work breaks, anyway, any time), and demand NO AMNESITIES, NO MENTION OF AMNESTIES. They are not to use our U.S. Congress, their oath to this country, and our American tax dollars to represent another country, in our U.S. government. It is Treason. You must use that word consistently. Anyone who stands with Illegals, are Traitors to us and this sovereign United States. You call, and call, and call, and call, until they stop talking Amnesty and start to represent us, and tell all Illegalls, they eventually will be forced out.

    Then, you demand weekly or regular Town Halls, where U.S. constituents can come and face them, face to face. Any Illegal shows up, you demand they be removed from all meetings. Illegals have no right to have a voice in our U.S. government, our U.S. town hall meetings, because they have NO RIGHT TO BE IN OUR COUNTRY.

    Make it clear, to our U.S. officials, they are to make it clear to Illegals, they do not get to stay. Make it clear, if any U.S. officials that took an oath to represent Americans and the U.S., continues to talk or to introduce any legislature in our U.S. Congress, representing Illegals is Treason. It will be illegitimate in the eyes of American U.S. citizens, and we promise, it will be undone. These Illegals, will never be accepted or recognized as Americans. We know, that eventually we will remove them. Whatever it takes. However, long it takes.

  • foramerica

    California is a welfare State. In the near future there will be way more takers than makers. The State government will continue to try and suck the life out of the makers in order to give to the takers. It can't last for long because the makers are leaving the State. So it will collapse eventually.

  • tim

    I am surprised they haven't raised the Mexican flag over the State capital building yet.

  • BoydSharp

    And after the "invasion and conquest" of Californico is complete, where next? Oregon and Washington state? Nevada? Get one cockroach and lose the whole house. Remember when you see an histeric, another voter for liberal Democrat free loading garbage. Feel that hand in your wallet? Is it too late to hire the Russians who secured the East German and East Berlin borders? Probably, given these things couple like horny rabbits.

  • Suzanne McKay

    I enjoyed this post. I was trying to find the name of the actual MOVEMENT that is afoot, to have California SECEDE and become part of Mexico. I think it starts with "Rosa . . . something." ANYONE? Thanks.

  • BlueMoney

    Good riddance, I say. Give California to Mexico! Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer can become their problem. It might also postpone the Democrats from running an out-of-the-closet homo for president (for the same reasons they successfully ran an unqualified black for the job in 2008.) It's coming sooner or later... make it later!