Obama Tailoring Military Leadership to Only Those Who Will Shoot Fellow Americans

Dr. Jim Garrow is well-known for his books and for his humanitarian work to rescue Chinese girls from certain death.  The one-child policy in China leads many parents to kill girl babies, either before or after they are born.  It is far more prestigious to have a male child than a girl, so they kill the girls.

Over the last 16 years, Garrow’s efforts have rescued an estimated 40,000 girl babies from China at a cost of over $25 million.  Almost all of these girls would have been killed had they not been rescued and taken out of the country.  Today, he is the founder and executive director of the Bethune Institute’s Pink Pagoda schools.  There are 168 private schools in his program that employ 6,300 people, all with the goal of raising and teaching the Chinese girls in a English speaking environment.

Garrow’s has written about his effort to save China’s girls by authoring the book, The Pink Pagoda: One Man’s Quest to End Gendercide in China.

Dr. Garrow is not known for being a wild crackpot or part of the political fringe, so when he recently made the following post on his Facebook page, it got the attention of a number people:

“I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new ‘litmus test’ in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. ‘The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.’ Those who will not are being removed.”

When asked who is source was, Garrow replied:

“The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

One has to wonder if this had anything to do with President Obama’s dismissal of Marine Corps Gen. James Mattis from his post as commander of the Central Command.  The Washington Free Beacon commented on the dismissal, saying:

“Word on the national security street is that General James Mattis is being given the bum’s rush out of his job as commander of Central Command, and is being told to vacate his office several months earlier than planned.”

When you think about everything Obama has done to undermine the traditional integrity of the US military, it all makes sense.  He forced the military to accept homosexuals and then took action on any who opposed that measure.  Then Obama started attacking the military retirement system making a military career less attractive than before.  Then he took action against military chaplains who stood up for their faith.  Lastly, the Pentagon has issued orders for troops in the Middle East to remove all religious symbolism, however this is largely enforced against Christians and Jews, but not for Muslims.

The Obama administration was outraged when American soldiers burned a stack of Qurans.  He said nothing about the Qurans being defaced by Muslim prisoners and Obama said nothing about the stack of Bibles that were burned at the same time.

Obama condemned the soldiers that urinated on several dead Taliban and ordered their court martial, but he said nothing about the way captured American soldiers were being tortured by their Muslim captors.

Ever since taking office 4 years ago, Obama has been carefully tailoring the military to his specifications.  Once he started making his sweeping changes, many career military personnel including commanding officers began retiring or resigning their commissions, leaving the military to the liberals.

I’ve been writing for a couple years now saying that Obama has plans to purposely destroy America’s economy in order to create a national emergency.  This would give him the reason to declare martial law and assume dictatorial control.  He will disband Congress and establish his own Gestapo style national police.

When I wrote these things, I said the only two things that could prevent him from succeeding is the military because I seriously doubted that they would fire on fellow Americans and the 300 million guns in the hands of private citizens.  But it seems that Obama is actively working towards eliminating both of these last remaining obstacles and when they are gone, mark my word, all hell will break lose and America will be lost.



  • http://www.facebook.com/SpaceCowboy56 David Taylor

    We can only hope that the veterans and the officers that have been dismissed would be willing to resist those they so recently served with.

    • Screeminmeeme

      David Taylor...I have not the slightest doubt that not only will they, but many great patriots will rise up to defend the American people against our own government. And I truly believe that most of them will have served in our military.

      • http://www.facebook.com/howard.a.milor Howard A Milor Jr.

        I agree but do you really believe that he can get our men and women in uniform to turn against us?

        • muchfedup

          If they are promised enough incentive, I have no doubt. Let's say, so much incentive pay for each US Citizen taken down. Don't doubt it.

        • bill

          I'm guessing you never served in the Military...

        • colleenf

          Yep, cluess

        • dean29685

          I did and he is right.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jpwilchjr John Wilch

          I agree that there might be some but not enough to matter. He'll (El Dumbo) have to get Aires and his buddies to fill in the ranks. Which will just give us a target rich environment.

          US COMBAT VETERAN: Vietnam '68 - '69; Door gunner, 1st Cavalry Division (AM)

        • Princess Pi

          John Wilch, Thank you for your service, honor and bravery. My husband is a Cold War veteran and was put on high alert several times and deployed in Germany. You are all heroes. God Bless you.

        • Patriot


        • W_R_Monger

          HOOAH John! And thank you

        • colleenf

          Then you don't know very many active or retired military do you?
          There may be a few who would, but 99% will NOT. They love our country and our citizens..........and they take their oath as a very personal part of every fiber of their being!

        • W_R_Monger

          The first time I took the Oath I didn't think very much of it, just part of the ceremony but after the third time (I re-upped a lot) it started sinking in. The last time I took it I was singled out for a different Oath than the rest of the group (I was the only National Guardsman in the bunch) and each word struck a cord. It may have just been that I was older or maybe that it was only my voice that I and everyone else in the room heard but that Oath and the others it took at each enlistment meant more than any other words uttered in my life... When the rest of the group gave their Oaths they all recited the words with feeling, not as parrots...

        • Wayright2

          I wasn't cut out to be a green weenie. After three years 68-71, I was asked if I wanted to re-enlist. I told the re-up Sgt no. He asked me what I was going to do when I got out. I told him "Cart-wheels."

        • W_R_Monger

          To each his or her own. The first time I got out I gave my uniform a Viking funeral. My third enlistment was because my wife said I needed new work clothes. Took me 17 yrs & 5 enlistments to figure out I was about to be obsolete & no longer of us to the Army. I had seen that happen several times before & recognized the pattern. It's not the military or most of its personnel that screw it up only a select few that messes up the organization for all service members.

        • colleenf

          God bless you and a huge THANK YOU! I have never taken that oath as military, but as a civilian who grew up in the military, you also take that oath if you have even one scintilla of good old American red blood in you!

        • muchfedup

          I guess I was judging them by the president who wore and oath and is supposed to love our country as well. My mistake.

        • colleenf

          Obama may have sworn an oath, but he was lying as he has not supported our Constitution yet and has repeatedly violated that oath of office.
          And your frustration causing you to make that mistake is understandable.
          I grew up in the military, all of my family and the majority of my friends are either active duty or retired military........NONE of them support obama. And NONE will ever fire on fellow citizens just because they disagree with the marxists in DC.

        • TheSunDidIt

          Some, yes. And then they'll be arrested or dealt with by the troops who are not stupid and know what is going on and they'll tell the head-shed just what they want to hear and will become the defeat of those who hate the Constitution. They didn't join for the check or the education. They joined for the good of the nation and the Constitution.

        • dean29685

          But he is driving those out and those he can not the will be removed other ways. Dumb brutes are always easy to find smart moral not so.

        • mchetzler

          What ever he is attempting to do to the current military, they are vastly outnumbered and out experienced by veterns and many who are currently serving. If he succeeds in turning them into his own versions of Zombies, and sends them agains the citizenry of this country, I firmly beleive that it will be like a reenactment of Custer's 7th Calvery at Little Big Horne, with us wearing the war paint.

        • dean29685

          Study this, before obama uses the military he will use homeland security
          and The TSA ( fast becoming the private army of this administration)
          to disarm the people like US and if we do not cooperate, Then the troops come.

        • johnh

          Simply for Obama to ask military members this question should the an act of treason and an impeachable offense.

        • Patriot

          May Obama supporters who are black and/or ignorant did just that. They joined for the perks! They will do what Obama asks. They will need to be taken out first. They cannot be trusted. Many are racist and have a chip on their shoulders. They will no doubt see it as an excuse to settle any and all perceived slights. When I see military personal, glad-handing with Obama I want to puke! Makes one wonder where their true loyalties lie?

        • http://www.facebook.com/sid.cranston Sid Cranston

          If not, I think he will get MS13 and/or illegals to do it.

        • Princess Pi

          Well maybe Sid, But we sent Egypt 1.5 billion dollars and the first 4 of 16 jets and 200 tanks. The president of that country is Muslim Brotherhood and said he wants to kill every Jew and when he has he wants to destroy America. Now, tell me, is that not giving aid and comfort to the ENEMY? Maybe he is planning to use them against We The People.

        • LeSellers

          I do.

          I am a 21+ year Army retiree, and one of the reasons I left 15 years ago was the lack of true patriotism among the officer ranks. Yes, there are still many (I hope most) who actually love our country, but more and more I saw that it was becoming a political question as to who got promoted ("up") and who was allowed to leave ("out"). Senior NCOs (Navy Petty Officers) were subject to similar scrutiny.

          It can have only gotten worse.

          That's why I have become a staunch and intractable (some might say "absolutist") supporter of the true USmerican military: the militia. An Army unit (for example, Navy, Air Force, Marines are not too different) is made up of geographically diverse members. They have no particular allegiance to any one town or state. Send a guy from East LA to Denver, and he's not firing on his family or friends: they're just another enemy. But a militiaman serving in his hometown is in an entirely different situation. These are people he knows, and may even love many of them.

          Remember, it was not the Louisiana National Guard that ravaged Katrina victims. It was out-of-staters.

          A standing army is a danger to the country that it "serves". They have existed for millennia, and this has been true since Phillip the Great and earlier. Armies owe their allegiance to the king, the emperor, the president. They are "domestic mercenaries".

          The Framers gave us protections against the evil of a standing army: one of those is the II. It guarantees that each state can have a true militia, as well armed as the army, as well trained as the army, as well supplied as the army.

          The National Guard is not the militia. The militia is every man (and woman, too, I suppose) from ~18 through ~55. The NG is a select group, a tiny fraction of the people. The militia trains as a neighborhood. The NG trains as military units that are assigned to Regular Army divisions. The NG is part of the Army, the militia is part of the community.

          We who value freedom must from the militia and train, prepare and stand faithful to the Constitution lest those who want to be our masters use their worst weapon, the standing army, to enslave us.

          Mr. O'bama will there ever be any Jobs?

        • cpovet

          Check out Patriot Crossroads

        • LeSellers

          What are we talking about here? I found a firearms forum, but haven't spent much time there. That may not be what you mean.

          Mr. O'bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

        • dean29685

          Oh it is it is we have a largely mercenary army now made up of people who can or would not get other employment or in to many cases given the option military or jail. With the break down of morals comes leadership that was always there, rising up to "fill the void left in the departure" of those who would never do any thing to harm a citizen.

        • vincent

          Major Nidal Hassan was a member of the Army when he massacred 13 of our troops at Ft Hood. Wasn't there another Sgt that fragged our troops at a base in Iraq or Kuwait? Someone might have info on this.
          How many sex crimes, drug deals, forgeries, credit card fraud, assaults, murders, and robberies occur on the bases, off of the bases and after some of these goons are on leave? There is a percentage of the armed forces with criminal backgrounds and/or gang membership.
          See http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/fbi-finds-gangs-expanding-even-to-u-s-military/
          The recruiting standards have dropped in recent years to bolster the enlistment goals. And the opportunity to get access to military training and urban warfare (READ: Home Invasion Skills) is attractive.
          Remember Obama promises in 2008, BEFORE his election?
          But the average American does not know and does NOT CARE. He is either pharmaceutically neutered, obsessed with the Kardashians, or scratching himself in front of Prime Time TV. And the investigative urinalists at 60 Minutes did not report any of this...

        • Patriot

          I think there was an incident of one guy tossing a grenade or two into tents.

      • CatherineS

        Which is probably why former military is on Homeland Security's watch list....

        • TheSunDidIt

          That's ok. They're on ours.

        • TRIDNTRU

          The ONG fired on US citizens in May 1970 because the ONG were poorly trained and undisciplined. I do not believe the regular military would fire on US citizens but possibly on HSA. There is precedent and punishment for those who follow the leads of of a raving lunatic. See Nazi Germany.

        • http://wahrheitmacher.blogspot.com/ Most Rev. Gregori

          I believe the only members of our military that would obey orders to open fire on American citizens, will be the liberals, the homos, the Muslims and the just plain wackos.

        • Remington 870

          You are correct with who will fire on American citizens. You forgot to mention blacks, hispanics and orientals who will probably shoot all whites who resist. Served with a lot of black soldiers during the Vietnam war and from my personal experiences, most would fire on civilians especially whites.

        • http://wahrheitmacher.blogspot.com/ Most Rev. Gregori

          That is sad but true.

        • Mario A.

          Obama has Louis Faracon and his army of followers who are waiting in the wings for Obama to give them the word. This was spoken publicly by Faracon himself who said he has an army of men who are presently training with weapons for the day. Faracon is also the one who said the soldiers at Fort Hood were the terrorists and the Fort Hood shooter was not.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

          I smell BS. Can you support those statements with evidence? Louis Farrakhan (that's how it is spelled) hates Obama with a passion.

        • Seeker1212

          You could be right Steve, but he hates whites even more..!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/1972Western Gordon Nadolni

          Well Seeker if you listened to Obama's speach when he was quoating Martin Luther King, he left out. one part." the merit of the person's character" The whole thing is. "Lets not judge a man by the color of his skin, --- but by the merit of his Character." I guess that part from Martin Luthern King was not so important. Obummer never did promise us he would stop spending!

        • Conservativesniper

          Gordon, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a
          nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by
          the content of their character.."

        • standfirm777

          "I have a dream" that my three grandchildren will one day live in a FREE United States of America with a government that actually adheres to the Constitution of the United States!

        • Conservativesniper

          Can you give any evidence that Calypso Louie hates Obama with a passion? He's as racist as Obama.

        • halfbreed
        • Conservativesniper

          That story doesn't indicate Farrakhan hates lil barry, just that he disagrees with him killing Libyans.

        • brianjconway

          They may dislike each other but when the S hit the fan, they'll hang together against the "White devils"

        • Patriot

          Ya, my BS meter red-lined as well. I think he is a Ron Paul Zombie or an hybrid of Obama Zombie and Ron Paul Zombie. Either way, very strange person. Always taking the contrarioan position to most but he's obviously over his head. :)

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          You would have done good to get Ron Paul. At least he does believe in God. And oh by the way he does talk with some sense.

        • Edward53

          Ron Paul sure believes in Adolph Hitler, Hamas and Hezbollah. He doesn't believe in Israel. He has alot of sympathy for the murderous Palestinians. So I guess I question his belief in God. I've followed him for 25 or 30 years and have never heard much sense come out of his mouth, only lunacy and conspiracy theories.

        • Edward53

          I smell a Paulbot. Is that you I smell, Stephen? I hear that Paulbots swing both ways, Ron Paul and Barack Obama.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          Where in the world did you come up with that at?

        • Darfur Deng

          He is a Liberal Troll playing the role of a Cass Sunstein Conservative poser. Linking Ron Paul to Obama is one of the newer liberal troll tells, divide and undermine remains as a primary tenant of the Liberal Cults ideology.

        • DWeb

          Yeah, but he hates white more. What side/color do you think Calypso Louie would choose?

        • http://www.facebook.com/scotty.maloney Scotty Maloney

          I believe that hate between them is the media's concoction.

        • Robertz

          There is NO hate between Obama and Farrackon. Farrackon has publicly stated he believes Obama is the second coming. He LOVES Obama.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1634551683 Robert E Harris


        • Lovedtheoldusabetter

          Skin color, muslim religion and hate of the white man binds them together,Stephen Smith.

          Perhaps all these shootings are "strays" that have been taken in and brainwashed by the racist elite, then turned loose on the public to tezt.

          Obama will stop at nothing toget what he wants

          Haven't you figured out by now that he is evil incarnate?

        • halfbreed

          Do you want to see the article about the space ship coming to save Islam?


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        • Berzrkr50

          Saw all the marching... When are they gonna break-dance?

        • Robertz

          I can support that evidence. Two current army soldiers and one female marine just privately told me that they ARE training right now to kill americans. They are also training for close in urban combat like American cities. I was told that even the police will be targets of the army because they know the police would side with us. Ignore this advice at your own peril.

        • keyesforpres

          I pray these soldiers would not follow unconstitutional orders to kill us.

        • rivahmitch

          Pray all you want but buy ammo.

        • Conservativesniper

          This is why we have the 2nd Amendment.

        • http://profiles.google.com/livfreeordi Tom T

          The problem for Obama is ....exactly WHO are the kind of people who enlist in the military? It isn't left wingers. Liberals HATE the military. If I were in the military right now , I 'd play it cool and "yes" the libs to death , but when push came to shove , guess who I would turn my weapon upon?

        • carol

          Ya think? NOT they are in bed with other

        • Patriot

          I frequently travel through Calypso Louis neighborhood and understand that he and Obama are close buds! I recall the camel jockey attempted to put distance between himself and Calypso Louis during his first campaign. Don't forget that The Camel Jockey, Calypso :Louis and Rev Wright were all very close buds. Calypso had his white shirted black bow-ties out campaigning door to door for Obama. Where is your evidence proving the contrary? Let's not forget that the two are fellow Muslims, Both are racists and both are un American!

        • Attila

          Louis (correct spelling) hates everybody. Do you have a nitpicking point?

        • nate forrest

          That may be true. Farrakhan referred to O as "the Son of the Devil" just last December....

        • http://www.facebook.com/robert.m.anderson.560 Robert M. Anderson

          Say what? Farrakhan is in tight with Rahm Emmanuel in Chicago, as well as with black subversive Rep Charles Rangel. As part of the same corrupt Chicago political scene that put Obama in office, they may personnally dislike one another (though I have never heard that until your post), but they WILL work together to destroy America, since that is their shared goal.

        • colt45

          Id be happy to stand and return fire on these muslum turds. been collect 223 rounds for years for just such an occasion

        • Phillip_in_TX

          Collecting "precious metals" is a noble endeavor. : )

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          First thing you do is hit the armory's. We will need some of the good stuff.

        • catman

          I agree,one problem they will use rocket launchers and F16's armored vehicals which are already here training.hard to fight with just a gun now days, civil war it was doable!

        • Erick Amthor

          Patriots on the inside must go along, for now.

        • twocolts

          If it happens in my lifetime, my Colt .45 is tuned and ready...it will serve to correct injuries.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jaclyn.barnes1 Jaclyn Barnes

          Everything that this article says about, Marxist Muslim Dictator Barack Hussein Obama!Is absolutely true!!He in my opinion is in the league of:Hitler,Stalin,Mao,Putin and many others!!

          The terrorist at the Fort Hood Massacre was a MUSLIM!Who will never be tired for this horrific crime but that's,because Obama!!Is a Muslim who wants to destroy America!!!

          So America what are you going to do?Are you going to arm yourselves against people like Louis Faracon,Bill Aryers,and all!!The other crazies who have followed Dictator Obama like little lost sheep!!Because they believe that daddy Obama will do everything he promised,and will.Take care of them!!

          Do they have a surprise coming!The only ones he's going to take care of are his,own family!!

          He'll stand up for his buddies all dictators:Iran's leader,Morisi Muslim Brotherhood President,Abbas Palestine's Leader all,who hate!!Jews,Christians look what's happening in Egypt with the Coptic Christians being killed church's being burned!!The last Synagouge in Cairo Egypt was burned!England,France,New York City all are having problems,with MUSLIMS!!!!Praying in the streets!!

          So again I say America Lock and Load because,Dictator Obama!!Is declaring war on America those who do not,stand up!!!!Fight to save the Constitution will be taking away who know were!Or be forced by MUSLIMS to convert or die Obama wants to be,King and!Have Islam rule!!!!!
          I'm trying to SCARE YOU America into waking up,to realize.What the next 4 years holds for you with Marxist Muslim Dictator Barack Hussein Obama!!!In charge of America TOTAL DESTRUCTION!!!!!

        • Berzrkr50

          We all know Calypso Louie is a crazy nutjob worthy of anybody's first round...

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          We have one up on them. We the Vets are already trained. I can not get around as good as I could back then but I can shoot just as straight as I ever could.

        • rafaelito7

          Hey Remington. I would appreciate that when you refer to hispanics, you have the facts when you open your mouth. Puertoricans dont need green cards nor special visas, as do mexicans and other spanish speaking latinos. That fact is that many, if not all of my latino boys from all latin america, including mexicans, were all Americans. And they never came back from Nam, because they were to busy dying and defending your right to speak. And about blacks, the bombers were littered with body bags of young black American brothers who voluntarilly gave their lives for this country. Hoorah to you if you really served, but remember this, that you are not better than hispanics or blacks because you are white as you seem to imply. And because they lie silently in their tombs and cant speak for themselves, I am speaking for them.. Hoorah!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Martin/100000259634691 Dave Martin

          If the "S" hits the fan, I am taking out anyone with gang tats.

        • http://www.facebook.com/1972Western Gordon Nadolni

          Hey rafaelito! he is talking about Viet-Nam, some 40 to 50 years ago. Being there was bad enough, but it was important to know who had your back. When it came to your like, it seemed you would group up with your own kind, because you wanted to find a common bond and alot of times you were not sure if you would come back from a patrol.{ I am not a Viet-Nam Veteran, just served in that Era overseas.} None of our Vets got a Thank you for our Service to our Country , or had ever heard of being called " Wounded Warrior" . Adopt a Soldier, There is enough pain to go around concerning those times. We are the Forgotten Soldier for an unpopular war.

        • W_R_Monger

          You are not forgotten by those of my generation. We watched on the evening news you and our fathers fight and sometimes die before our eyes. No, by us you are not forgotten and whenever I meet a Vietnam Vet I thank them for doing a job no one else would. I believe that watching that is what pushed me to join and serve a decade later.

          Thank-you American Veteran, you may not be noticed but you are never forgotten...

        • Remington 870

          No disrespect intended. Again, I speak from my personal experiences only. The Vietnam war was a long time ago and comparing those experiences with who will fire on fellow Americans if ordered by this fake president makes me and others (vets or not) begin to watch our backs again and prepare silently in our basements, garages or whereever. Yes, there are many whites who will fire on fellow Americans as well.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jody.stafford.9 Jody Stafford

          good for you Rafaelito. In my 10 yr military service, I worked with many black and latino soldiers. And the only white soldiers they had a problem with were the prejiduce whites. The rest of us got along just fine. I too would shoot to kill anyone trying to hurt me or my loved ones, no matter thier skin color or nationality. But there are plenty of white people that would shoot thier own mother for the right price. So it's not about race or religion, it's all about what side you choose to fight for. As in the civil war, it was brother against brother and it can very easily be that way again.

        • James Tabone

          Met a lot of racist black soldiers who hated us whites back in Nam. That was a decade of hate, black panthers, malcolm Xers, and inner cities burning down.

        • Edward53

          Seems there are more black racists in America than white racists.

        • colt45

          look at it this way this will be an opportunity to rid ourselves of these people that hate us.

        • http://www.facebook.com/1972Western Gordon Nadolni

          That Edward53 is cause we are suppose to be guilt ridden for putting the Blacks in chains. We are the ones that supposedly did the Black race wrong, so it is only right that they have an inherited rage for us. My question is where will this end, we cannot live like this as a Nation and survive.

        • carol


        • serfer62

          Its not much differant in Afghan either

        • colt45

          happy to return fire, especially at those that fire at me

        • http://www.facebook.com/frank.j.austin Frank J. Austin

          This cracker will return the favor

        • cohibas4u

          Don't assume that ALL hispanics are liberal lunatics...I cherish the 2nd Amendment and if there were a better country than the United States of America i'd move there...so please don't make assumptions...

        • Remington 870

          No assumptions made and no disrespect intended. Obama and his commie group are preparing for Marshal Law and we must prepare to save this country. Obama is most afraid of the White gun owner, especially those in southern states where he is not liked. Using the American military to supress Americans is right out of the Marxist playbook, and we better get prepared for something bad.

        • W_R_Monger

          My take on this is that berry will call in UN troops intermixed with ours for good measure. The UN slugs will pull the trigger without hesitation and our troops not knowing any better will follow the orders of whatever UN commander that is in charge of them. They will have removed that mechanism that prevents American Soldiers from firing upon their own and replaced it with the UN commander. It's what the Romans did, the US Cav back in the late 1800s and what the Russians and Chinese do.

        • Remington 870

          Good point! And if foreign UN Troops are aligned with US troops, we will consider both invaders and fight accordingly. Any US commander loyal to our country would not accompany UN foreign troops into US communities or they will be guilty of treason. They may outgun us, but they don't outnumber us.

        • Phillip_in_TX

          We get to shoot back!

        • http://www.facebook.com/rocky.vnvmc Rocky Vnvmc

          I have a friend who was Fragged, in his hooch, by a black Marine, that he'd never met.
          I was assaulted by a black soldier, with no reason to do so, while I was on Crutches, twice ! (*the second time it Could have been a different soldier, since I didn't really know the first one who assaulted me and they were both wearing green fatigues and a hat, so they looked alike to me).
          I had a black friend tell me that he knew of a lot of folks who had stashed away Full Automatic weapons and were just waiting for the 'Revolution' to come.
          Thus I'm sure that you're correct in your assumptions , as they are much more racist in their outlook, that anyone else that I have ever met.
          The Latinos are calling their re-occupation of our South Western States a 'Reconquesta', or Re-conquering of those lands that formerly belonged to Mexico. So you might be right about them as well...

        • Remington 870

          I catch a lot of heat from my writings about black soldiers not being trusted. Oh yes there are the exceptions, but those are few and far between. You and I know during the Vietnam war, blacks hung out with blacks, couldn't be trusted to not sleep on guard duty, would frag white soldiers, shoot white soldiers, and so on. Did not trust them 40 years ago...sure as hell don't trust them today.

        • Robert Suggs

          Why would they want to fire upon the people that pay their bills, feed them, and keep the entire country from going third world? O has done enough to put people over the edge, but disbanding congress and instituting martial law will put him dire straights.

        • philrobbins


        • http://www.facebook.com/1972Western Gordon Nadolni

          That was not what hurt. It was when our Country decided to give them amnesty. That is the Thanks our Soldiers got for serving. If only we would of known that we also could of ran to Canada, but then not very many of us could afford it. I think it was our former Bill's era that made it possible for us to move forward .

        • James Tabone

          ...and include UN blue-helmeters who wouldn't hesitate to blow us away!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000506596816 Patrick Oxford

          I have never seen nor heard of an effective U.N. force.

        • southerner15

          What hole do you live in? U.N. forces would be a formidable problem.

        • Remington 870

          If Blue Helmets step onto US soil to supress Americans, there will be civil war. Armed Foreign troops on US soil constitutes an invasion and therefore armed citizens have the right to destroy all enemies..foreign & domestic. The Rules of Engagement will dramatically change if this occurs.

        • W_R_Monger

          It'll be open season and all of us "hunters" will be cammo'd up. I've been sayin it for yrs, "The Rednecks and Hillbillies will be America's salvation".

          You can laugh and snicker about them but the truth is they are America's strongest assets. Deceptively smart and resourceful... And God fearing. They carry the Faith that America has lost.

        • carol

          Give me them boys from Kentucky and West Virginia, come to Texas we gonna have a fun Turkey shoot

        • Remington 870

          I live in a rural area of SC and will be putting my crosshairs on any blue helmets in my area. Yes the Rednecks and Hillbillies will be America's salvation and we don't take prisoners, we feed them to the gators.

        • Patriot

          How befitting of a disposal method! :)

        • W_R_Monger

          I like that idea... You'll have a lot of fat happy gators :)

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          North GA mountains. If it happens then please come and get me first.

        • Remington 870

          I'll let out a big hollar for all to come and watch the gators eat blue helmets. They like dark meat.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          And we Christians know who wins in the end. We have read the book.

        • halfbreed

          Sure you have, they are Called the US Army they been doing the UN's bidding for how many years now?

        • W_R_Monger

          Their effectiveness would be in their numbers and the authority given to them by the POTUSINO.

          That notwithstanding I think they'll find out that most of us will not respect that authority and that "edge" will evaporate quickly...

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          Every Vet takes an oath which remains with them for a life time. That oath says you will defend the Constitution and obey the orders of your superiors and the President. But take notice, defending the Constitution comes first in that oath. So if a president orders troops to fire on civilians then he is breaking the Constitution and we no longer follow his orders. As far as I am concerned he has already trashed the Constitution because he can not rightfully be the President of the United States. He is a full blooded illegal alien. .

        • Patriot

          That's because there isn't one Patrick! They are good at raping children and murdering the innocent. I believe many are French if I'm not mistaken!

        • Conservativesniper

          Blue helmets make great targets.

        • carol

          Tell me again why do we need the UN?

        • Patriot

          Parking ticket revenue? Oh, that's right, they ignore our laws. :)
          So, the answer to your question is; ABSOLUTELY NONE WHATSOEVER!

        • Berzrkr50

          Those "Blue Helmets" stick out like a sore thumb. Makes them real hard to miss!

        • http://twitter.com/jandinkins Jan Dinkins

          And quite a few of them are now in the military.

        • Sarge 52

          Rev... You are so right

        • http://www.facebook.com/randy.renu.5 Randy Renu

          You know you live in a Country run by idiots if you can get arrested for expired tags on your car but not for being in the country illegally.

        • RockyMtn1776

          LMAO Goiod point. Out last 5 Presidents absolutely refused to enforce our immigration laws. Far to many of our elected officals sold their soul and their country for money, power and votes. What do the voters do ? Re-elected these corrupt idiots !

        • http://www.facebook.com/1972Western Gordon Nadolni

          Well the Catholic Church helped take them by the Buss load to have their Kids and of course we paid for it and the Catholic do gooders just step back and feel good about helping these illegals enter our Country, but not help pay for the housing, food, education and not mention the Jobs that are lost cause of them.

        • Wendy

          Don't lump all Catholics into that group. Many of us are NOT liberal Nancy Pelosi Catholics. Yes, compassion is a Christian virtue, but how it is dispensed differs. I have more compassion for those who are trying to follow the laws and get into this country LEGALLY, than the selfish ones who break into the line ILLEGALLY, throw off the balance and cause anarchy. We are called to follow the law, unless of course, that law was made by breaking another law as is the case with the numerous breaches of our Constitution and overriding of Congress as has occurred most recently and frequently by this administration.

        • Patriot

          As a proud conservative catholic, I abhor the activities of many of our churches and when given the opportunity, I let them know it in no uncertain terms! I believe in compassion but not at the expense of common sense and self preservation!

        • TRIDNTRU

          Absolutely correct. I have a friend who came to this country in the sixties from Italy has an SSN, worked all of these past 50 years. He filed for his earned retirement. It was discovered he never became a citizen and he is now under a deportation order.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          Obama has about 30 SS numbers and why have we not deported him?

        • /.murphy

          He hasn't been deported because when the IRS investigated him, they found that he really had only one SS#, and it was legitimate. So they accepted his tax return like they do for all other legitimate Americans.

        • W_R_Monger

          HA! I just blew coffee out of my nose! ROFLMAO!!!

          Gotta go home & change my shirt now...

        • Tom54

          Problem is Obama is putting all of them people in charge of the mlitary and filling the ranks with them as well. But at least when we shoot back, it wil be them to shoot. So it won't be too heartbreaking.

        • seresmary

          You forget that there are many who are serving in the Military who are not citizens of the U.S. and the military is only a route to citizenship by serving.
          They have no allegiance to the U.S. and it's people especially if Obama orders it, and if they don't they are outted and banned from becoming a citizen. So what motive would keep them from opening fire on U.S. Citizens? mary711

        • Patriot

          I would hope that any treachery against a US Citizen would result in their immediate death. That just may do it once the word got out!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-D-Childress/1070456966 Jim D Childress


        • HappyClinger

          Don't forget the drug cartels, particularly those Eric Holder and Obama funneled weapons to in F&F. They are active in every major city in the US, and have military-style leadership and training, mostly defectors seeking personal gain. We thought F&F was only about gun control, but maybe this is how he is arming the "civilian army" he mentioned during the 2008 campaign. Never underestimate the evil one.

        • tdrag

          Don't forget some of the blackos.

        • Jim

          You are wrong Tridntru...They fired on the KSU students because they were being struck with rocks and other objects and were in fear of their own lives. I would have done the same thing if I felt my life was in danger. Those same agitators did the same thing at B-W weeks before.

        • TRIDNTRU

          Properly trained and disciplined troops do not do not fire deadly weapons at someone throwing rocks. If as you state you would have done the same thing then you had no business being there.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lloyd.borba Lloyd Borba

          If I have the story straight, my grandfather who was a WW2 naval combat veteren (a machine gunner on the USS New Mexico) was a seargent first class in the CA Army National Guard during the riots at Berkley(could have been Watts), I do not believe they ever fired a shot on anyone there but........after screaming and him and spitting on his uniform, a stinky little hippy check squatted down and urinated on his boots, his only reaction was a quick and precise buttstroke with his M-14 to the top of the young ladies head putting her immediately into a M-14 induced state of unconscienceness. I believe he ended up losing a stripe over it.....I think it was worth it. What do you think TRIDNTRU?

        • southerner15

          Not sure about there, but in some of the D.C. riots, Soldiers were given weapons, but no ammo. Sorry, but if you are going to post me at a mad crowd then you had better give me the ammo.

        • http://www.facebook.com/1972Western Gordon Nadolni

          Our Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry had bean bags to protect himself.

        • TRIDNTRU

          Agreed he did the right thing, hope they gave him the stripe back.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lloyd.borba Lloyd Borba

          I guess it would depend on how big the rocks were though "sticks and stones can break my bones"....but boulders will squash you dead as a bug!

        • TRIDNTRU

          Only the governator throws boulders and that is phony. Just think if Goliath had worn a combat helmet vintage 1970 he would have lived to fight another day. A thrown rock travels at a speed of 60 mph unless you are Nolan Ryan and he was not there. The 30 caliber rounds travel at approximately 1400 mph. Quite a difference.

        • MR.RIGHT

          Exactly correct, the people weren't wearing body armor either, but the police and the like are always protected with riot gear, shields, and now with hollow point rounds making sure to kill American that dare go against 'heir obastard' welcome to the "fundamental change" obastard spoke of!

        • Tom54

          I guess our hollow points will work also. What do you think?

        • http://twitter.com/Chubbyfreen Chubby Freen

          I think the tendency to throw rocks at men armed with rifles proves Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection...

        • http://www.facebook.com/1972Western Gordon Nadolni

          Have you ever been hit by a rock? If the person does not respect or comply with instruction to cease and decist with their unrulely conduct and have to be carried away.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

          You are an example of a NON-Oath Keeper, Jim, if you would fire live ammo at protesters for merely throwing rocks at you.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lloyd.borba Lloyd Borba

          It all depends upon the intent, have you ever heard of stoning someone to death...it is or could be considered deadly force also. I still like the buttstroke though...seems to work everytime

        • http://www.facebook.com/gina.hansen.9 Gina Hansen

          a traitor !! he is !!

        • Edward53

          Rocks can kill a person just as much as bullets can kill a person.

        • http://www.facebook.com/ecurbyy Bruce Brinkmann

          I think the killing of the students at Kent State was an act of cowardice. Those heavily armed, well protected soldiers were scared they may be hit with a rock and get a boo boo. Being the wimpy cowards that they were, they had no choice but to fire on those brave protestors.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000506596816 Patrick Oxford

          They have since proved that the ONG was fired upon.

        • Jude O'Connor

          "Black Thursday", when the US Army fired on and killing four WW I veterans in Washington DC. General MacAuthor and Patton were both there along with Ike. The vets wanted addition pay.

        • Conservativesniper

          What year did this happen? MacArthur, not MacAuthor. And if the incident you are referring to is the one I think it is the vets wanted what was PROMISED to them, not additional pay. Get your facts straight. Promised to them by Congress via the World War Adjusted Compensation Act of 1924. You can get informed about the incident here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

        • Jude O'Connor

          Okay my fingers don't spell correctly and I think you are in the right but due to syntax of meaning, they were promised and it was denied but this is not what the post is about. We fired on our own, stop making a federal case out of an internet posted by a 75 year old vet.

        • TRIDNTRU

          Yes MacArthur with Patton and Ike there did use the army against the WWI vets but according to all accounts no shots were fired and a child died as a result of tear gas. Still unacceptable but MacArthur was an arrogant pompous ass who later did not ready his troops in the Philippines subsequently losing his army after Pearl Harbor was bombed. President Truman gave him his just due.

        • http://www.facebook.com/1972Western Gordon Nadolni

          Well it was also the fact that the War Bonds from World War I had matured. It was the Depression and they felt that it was a blessing cause they could use it now for a Rainy day. It was President Herbert Hoover who called out the National Guard. What had incensed them( the Veterans) was when Herbert Hoover showd his home movies of him and his Grandchildren playing in the pool at the White House. Talk about a Lap of luxury, but refused to give our Veterans the money from their investment. I am so glade I did'nt have to serve under General Patton, I don't know, but he was a tough guy to keep up with.

        • Wayright2

          Weren't the guardsmen being pelted with rocks? I was back from Vietnam and finishing up my 3 year enlistment at Ft Knox, KY when rioting broke out in Lousiville. We were told we would be deployed with blanks for our weapons. I refused to go without live ammo. They (wisely) let me stay back at the barracks as a guard.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Perry-Wall/100002811879244 Perry Wall

          my brother was in the NG in 70 -76 in NC they had some black protest in charlotte,they wasn't to carry live ammo but 50% had 1full magazine

        • halfbreed

          What about Wounded Knee? How many People of indigenous descent did the United States Government kill?

        • TRIDNTRU

          An absolute atrocity and the facts get worse, the army awarded several Congressional Medals of Honor to derelicts who shot defenseless women and children. There again is the problem a poorly trained and undisciplined mob under the colors of the military. I pray we have progressed.

        • halfbreed

          What really bother's me is when I fact checked this it stated they felt most of the People killed were killed by friendly fire. What an outrage!

        • JMWinPR

          ONG is not the Army.NG troops are under the Governor of the state. In 1957 DDE federalized the Arkansas National Guard removing them from the Governor's command, in addition, he sent the 101st Airborne to Little Rock. The Kent State shootings were a setup. Someone set off firecrackers knowing the ONG would think they were being fired upon and return fire. Similar things are currently happening, the current name is "swatting" where the local police deptartment is being called and told there is a gunman or hostage situation. The real issue everyone is overlooking is Major Geo Patton's response in 1932 to the WW1 Veterans. Here regular Army used force to dispel the marchers. If Patton could succumb to pressure for this action, what do you think will happen if some lesser Major is ordered to perform a similar action? In '32 Hoover was President, '57 Eisenhower, both Republicans. What chance have we got with the most dangerous of all people in power, an inept, coward who is a bully?

        • http://www.facebook.com/garrey.mcvicker Garrey McVicker


        • brianjconway

          Lets not re-write history. the Guard fired because they were pinned up against a chain link fence amid a hailstorm of rocks being thrown by a mob of thousands. Back then there were no non lethal rubber bullets etc. Too bad they didn't kill 40 of the b a s t a r d s instead of 4

        • TRIDNTRU

          There was no reason to fire the nearest threat to any guardsman. was over 240 feet distant, two of the four killed were walking to their classes.Undisciplined and poorly trained and led. You just confirmed what I stated. Poorly trained and poorly led, if they were backed up against a fence which they were not. The shootings took place after they left the practice field.

        • http://www.facebook.com/william.morris.3576 William Morris

          why do you think the government is stockpiling ammo?

        • IRONSIDE

          Uhh it's been all over the news. They have spent over a billion dollars on .40 hollow points. and hollow points are only for one thing and it's not target practice

        • TRIDNTRU

          They are trying to match what the militia have in store. Hopefully they will have no one to fire them.

        • pete

          ONG had also been under assaut (bottles and rocks) for days before shots were fired. They were kids, scared, and not trusting the mobs to be as kind to them as they were being to the mobs.

        • TRIDNTRU

          Wrong, wrong, wrong before you write anything get the facts. The guard did not arrive until 10:00 PM Saturday May 2nd. Their first encounter was on May 3rd, the shootings took place on May 4th. Police and firemen were pelted with rocks and no one was shot. The closest student killed was 245 feet from the ONG. The ONG was the undisciplined, ill trained and poorly led MOB. Two students going to class were killed. I am sure the ONG was fearful they were going to throw their books at them from 200 yards.

        • http://www.facebook.com/scotty.maloney Scotty Maloney

          That is a truly heartening answer. Outstanding!

        • OleDad48

          I am reminded of "Les Miserables" when passionate young men took to the
          barracades, thinking all of France would rise up against tyranny. Most
          Frenchmen stayed home and the young men died. I once had faith in
          "red-blooded Americans" standing up against tyranny. Alas, 52% "of us"
          just voted the tyrant into a second term.

          A military friend of
          mine assures me the Joint Chiefs of Staff will not allow this president
          or any other to overturn the Republic. No doubt Obama has already
          secured "friends" in those posts already. The Supreme Court ruled
          ObamaCare Constitutional. Government is circling the wagons, protecting
          themselves. So just how will small groups of militia, armed with 7-shot
          hand guns, defend themselves against the encroaching Marxist revolution,
          armed with military troops "trained to fire on Americans" plus tanks,
          drones, and complete control of the internet?

          In Russia, Lenin
          won the battle at the cry of "Give us bread!" Obama has won a second
          term the same way, "plus": not only bread "food stamps", but also
          houses, phones, education, birth control, abortions, open borders and
          stimulus packages to union pension funds, and on and on. . .

        • http://www.facebook.com/ray.ake Ray Ake

          all vet's are on the watch list,,why do you think they hired those 1600 so called IRS agent's ???

        • James Tabone

          and a resource of 1.6 billion rounds of hollow-point bullets purchased by HomeLand Insecurity.

        • Conservativesniper

          16,000 'agents', Ray.

        • halfbreed
        • http://www.facebook.com/ruddsonny Sonny Rudd

          Veterans are their biggest thread and they know that and have had training with UN troops with our military, ICE, DHS and civilian law enforcement for the future in the event of civil unrest. This is covered covered below by a 9 points as shown. If you goggle Department of Homeland Security Martial Law Regulations this is where the below information came from

          1. FEMA
          Concentration Camps: Yes, there are concentration camps in the United States
          of America. These camps have now been confirmed by both mainstream and
          alternative news sources and have been built for the wholesale slaughter of the
          American public. Bard-wire fences facing inward, human transport rail cars, mass
          coffins, and human incinerators reminiscent of Nazi Germany's death camps are
          all present at these FEMA facilities. When these camps will open for business is
          a question the whole world should be asking.

          2. Operation
          ENDGAME: "Operation ENDGAME" is a 2003-2012 plan under implementation by the
          Office of Detention and Removal Operations of the U.S. Department of Homeland
          Security Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The goal of "Operation
          Endgame" is to detain and deport all removable aliens and "suspected terrorists"
          currently living in the United States by 2012. The aliens and "suspected
          terrorists" removed from the United States will likely suffer the same fate that
          aliens and "suspected terrorists" faced in Nazi Germany; gas

          3. COG
          (Continuity of Government): The "Continuity of Operations Plan" refers to
          the preparations and institutions maintained by the United States government for
          the survival of federal government operations in the case of catastrophic
          events. The George W. Bush administration put the "Continuity of Operations
          Plan" into effect for the first time directly following the September 11, 2001,
          attacks. This plan will be fully implemented in the event of an Obama

          4. REX 84: "Readiness Exercise 1984", is a contingency plan
          developed by the United States federal government to suspend the United States
          Constitution, declare martial law, place military commanders in charge of state
          and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens who were
          deemed to be "national security threats". This plan will be enacted in the event
          that the President of the United States declares a "State of Domestic National

          5. Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism
          Prevention Act of 2007: Senate bill
          "S-1959" permits the U.S. government to classify many types of
          venerated American political activity, such as civil disobedience, as terrorism.
          This law will be used to round-up any person that chooses to disobey orders,
          regardless of their constitutionality.

          6. Presidential
          Directive 51: The "White House National Security and Homeland
          Security Presidential Directive 51" allows the President to execute procedures
          for continuity of the federal government in the event of a "catastrophic
          emergency". Such an emergency is construed as "any incident, regardless of
          location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or
          disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment,
          economy, or government functions.” Should Obama be assassinated, there is no
          doubt that new president Joe Biden will enact this law.

          7. Enemy
          Belligerent Act: Senate bill "S-3081" allows for
          the infinite detention of any person, including American citizens, who is deemed
          to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent without criminal charges or trial for
          the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners
          in which the individual has engaged or which the individual has purposely and
          materially supported. This law basically allows any person at any time to be
          arrested and held without bail or trial for any amount of time deemed necessary
          by the U.S. government. This law paves the way for mass arrests and the
          wholesale extermination that is sure to follow.

          8. Human Cattle
          Cars: The U.S. government has contracted with several companies, namely KBR,
          to build thousands of railcars for human transportation which are reportedly
          equipped with shackles to transport political detainees. Unfortunately, history
          repeats and this is the exact same scenario that was used in Nazi Germany to
          transport victims to the gas chambers. According to diplomat and author Peter
          Dale Scott, the KBR contract is part of a Homeland Security plan titled
          "Operation ENDGAME", which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable
          aliens" and "potential terrorists" from the United States.

          9. Mass
          Graves: Mass coffins have been appearing in strategic locations throughout
          the Unites States over the last couple of years. While U.S. government officials
          explain that the coffins are for catastrophic emergencies, there is a growing
          suspicion amongst Americans that something far more sinister may be going on.
          Whatever catastrophic event is about to transpire, the U.S. federal government
          will be able to bury hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people in an
          extremely short amount of time.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          What we need to do is blow these camps to kingdom come. Scatter them to the four winds.

        • http://www.facebook.com/garrey.mcvicker Garrey McVicker


        • Berzrkr50

          This leads me to believe that it'd probably be a good idea if someone were to have a team in waiting to break good people out of the camps when the SHTF...

        • Rightway1208

          It is why Janet Napolitano declared Conservatives, Christians, Former Military, those who are Anti Abortion and those who oppose Obama were deemed "Terrorists" by the Dept of Homeland Security. We have to bullet proof our minds NOW that those of us who see this coming will understand and decide to fire back if, and when they come. I already have. I'm preparing my children for the fact that I will. I will not give up my guns, ever. If there are any Americans who don't think that the Government won't try to disarm us, and if they did disarm us, what it would look like, just remember the AMERICAN INDIAN. Another name for "Reservation" is "Concentration Camp" or "FEMA CAMP".

      • Randy K

        Amen. Count me as one of 'em!

      • FLChristyB

        Not if they get their way by making 'assault weapons' illegal (THEY get to define what an 'assault weapon' is). Currently they are making it more difficult and expensive to purchase ammo. Homeland security is stockpiling billions of rounds of hollow point bullets, to the point where local police and Sheriffs departments are having trouble getting enough for their people. What does THAT tell you...

        • http://www.facebook.com/sid.cranston Sid Cranston

          entirely OUR fault. We should have been correcting them all along. Our weapons are DEFENSIVE weapons. Assault weapons have a selector switch with 'full auto' as a choice.

        • W_R_Monger

          I agree in theory and in the legality of what should constitute an "assault" weapon. To be perfectly honest however a hurled rock is an "assault" weapon when properly utilized. The point here is that when they get down to the brass tacks they will eventually have to confiscate every weapon right down to the bows, wrist rockets and yes even paintball guns... In the end we will be forced to use whatever means possible to right the wrongs.

        • Patriot

          He who controls the language controls the argument!

        • Patriot

          I'm assuming they can be converted to full auto by a competent gun smith?

        • http://www.facebook.com/shawn.oloughlin.5 Shawn O'Loughlin

          More like a competent machinist with a template for the sear pin hole.

        • http://twitter.com/Chubbyfreen Chubby Freen

          Not easily--and the internals aren't readily available for many. Full auto is no advantage--anyone who's actually fired a true assault rifle knows the magazine is empty in 2-3 seconds. Sure, if you're a millionaire with 10's of thousands of rounds, you can experiment with finger pressure control to add several more seconds to your magazine's effectivness, but such a skill is perishable. A semi-auto allows you to re-acquire the target again and again between shots, and because the recoil is per individual shot, and not 30 shots all at once as with a full auto, you'll be much more accurate. Accurate, aimed fire will keep you alive longer than 650 or so rounds per minute in full auto...

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          I have a custom built 6mm PPC. One inch stainless barrel. Three oz trigger. Free floating barrel topped with a 38 power scope. This think will cut one hole out at 300 yards. Had it for a number of years. I kind of figured I would need it one day.

        • Patriot

          It would appear they are gearing up for something for sure!

        • Badkarma060

          Look at the bright side if you own any weapons that use the same caliber ammo they have been stocking up on you wont run out of ammo, just police up after you are done... 😉

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffrey-Wimmer/761297288 Jeffrey Wimmer

          Exactly right. I should be good with .223 and .40 weapons, to have a good supply since those two calibers are the majority of what DHS and the Soc Sec Admin purchased.

        • http://wahrheitmacher.blogspot.com/ Most Rev. Gregori

          What difference does it make if they declare "assault weapons" illegal? That would be an unconstitutional law, and "No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it." That quote is from - 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177, late 2d, Sec 256.

          In other words, Even if Obama and the Congress ban either "assault weapons" or the entire Second Amendment, We the People are under NO OBLIGATION to obey them, PERIOD!

        • Patriot

          "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." – Thomas Jefferson

        • /.murphy

          If Obama and the Congress make changes to any existing law or issue new ones, you are still free to choose to be a CRIMINAL, so you're right. Don't whine when you find yourself in jail.

        • http://twitter.com/Chubbyfreen Chubby Freen

          Only those who stop shooting will find themselves in jail.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          Want be in jail I will be dead and so will a lot of others.

        • Patriot

          I suspect if that happens a black-market will quickly develop as well as many cottage industries offering parts and ammo!

        • W_R_Monger

          I have to get myself a 3D printer...

        • Patriot

          mmmm... There's an idea! :)

        • Made_in_the_USA

          The Truth About Assault Weapons - plagerized from a video I transcribed!

          The AR-15 is the most common example of what are sometimes called assault weapons.

          The terms "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" are often confused. Prior to 1989, the term "assault weapon" did not exist in the lexicon of firearms. It is a political term, developed by anti-gun publicists to expand the category of "assault rifles"...

          If an assault weapon isn't an assault rifle, what is an assault rifle? The
          M4A1 is fully automatic. This means it fires multiple rounds each time the trigger is pulled. The M4A1 can fire up to 950 rounds per minute.

          The M4A1 and other fully automatic firearms are also called machine guns. In 1986, the Federal government banned the sale or transfer of
          new machine guns to civilians.

          Like the majority of firearms sold in the United States, the AR-15 is semi-automatic. This means it fires one round each time the trigger is pulled.
          The AR-15 can fire between 45 and 60 rounds per minute depending on the skill of the operator. This rate of fire is comparable to other semi-automatic firearms, but pales in comparison to fully automatic assault rifles, some of which can fire in excess of 1,000 rounds per minute.

          The truth about assault weapons is that they function like a ranch rifle...a shotgun...a pistol...and a double-action revolver. All of these guns fire one round each time the trigger is pulled. But if that's true, what makes
          a semi-automatic rifle a ranch gun...and an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle an assault weapon? The answer is perception. According to a 1988 report by the Violence Policy Center, an anti-gun lobby: Handgun
          restriction is simply not viewed as a priority. Assault weapons...are a new
          topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.

          In the late 1980s, more than two decades after the AR-15 was first sold to the American public, the anti-gun lobby began a systematic campaign to conflate it and other "military-style" firearms with machine guns.
          The media followed suit, and soon the American public began to think that an assault weapon was, like the assault rifles it resembled, a machine gun. This strategy came to fruition in 1993, when the Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) was introduced in Congress. The AWB would ban the sale of new assault weapons to American civilians. However, since "assault weapon" was an invented term, its meaning was subjective.

          Before assault weapons could be banned, legislators had to define them.
          Because assault rifles were already banned, and because an outright ban on semi-automatic weapons wasn't considered politically feasible, the AWB defined assault weapons as semi-automatic firearms that shared too many cosmetic features with their fully automatic counterparts, despite the fact that none of the "military-style" features enhanced the weapon's lethality. The AWB's passage was aided by the fact that many Americans believed the bill would ban machine guns and "weapons of war", something that had, in fact, already been banned.

          The AWB also banned magazines having a capacity higher than ten rounds. This limitation on magazine capacity applied to all firearms, not just so-called assault weapons. On September 13, 1994, the Federal Assault Weapons Ban went into effect. A Washington Post editorial published two days later was candid about the ban's real purpose: No one should have any illusions about what was accomplished [by the ban]. Assault weapons play a part in only a small percentage of crime. The provision is mainly symbolic; its virtue will be if it turns out to be, as hoped, a stepping stone to broader gun control.

          In 2004, the Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired. It was not renewed. The AWB had failed to have an impact on gun crime in the United
          States. A 2004 Department of Justice study concluded: Should it be
          renewed, the ban's effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement. [Assault weapons] were rarely used in gun crimes even before the ban. Regarding large capacity
          magazines, the study said: It is not clear how often the outcomes of
          gun attacks depend on the ability of offenders to fire more than ten shots (the current magazine capacity limit) without reloading.

          Regarding large capacity magazines, the study said: It is not clear how often the outcomes of gun attacks depend on the ability of offenders to fire more than ten shots (the current magazine capacity limit) without reloading. But after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, the AR-15 and other so-called assault weapons were widely depicted as military weapons whose only purpose was to kill large numbers of people as quickly as possible.

          In its ubiquity, the AR-15 is a modern musket—the default rifle with which
          law-abiding Americans exercise their right to keep and bear arms. It is the epitome of what America's founders sought to protect when they
          wrote the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
          Nevertheless, on December 17, 2012, Senator Dianne Feinstein, the author of the original AWB, announced her intention to introduce an updated Federal Assault Weapons Ban in Congress. However, Senator Feinstein's own facts do not support her agenda. The truth about assault weapons is that they are statistically underrepresented in gun crimes.

          According to Senator Feinstein, so-called assault weapons have been used in 385 murders since the AWB expired in 2004, or about 48 murders per year. But there were 8,583 total murders with guns in the United States in 2011, meaning so-called assault weapons were used 0.6% of the time. Further illustrating the small role so-called assault weapons play in crime, FBI data shows that 323 murders were committed with rifles of any kind in 2011. In comparison, 496 murders were committed with hammers and clubs, and 1,694 murders were perpetrated with knives.

          But gun prohibitionists continue to target so-called assault weapons—not
          because these firearms have any inordinate capability, but because the
          anti-gun lobby has invested more than two decades convincing the American people that "weapons of war" must be banned, regardless of whether such a ban would have a measurable impact on public safety, and despite the fact that real weapons of war have already been banned for nearly three decades. The truth about assault weapons is that there is no such thing. So-called assault weapons are semi-automatic
          weapons, which are the firearms of choice for millions of law-abiding

          To ban certain semi-automatic weapons because of their cosmetic features is misguided. To ban all semi-automatic weapons is to deprive Americans of the most commonly used firearms in violation of the Second Amendment. A ban on so-called assault weapons is the first
          step toward a ban on all semi-automatic firearms.

        • Patriot

          Thanks!, and you are so right!

        • a marine .

          Thank you for the information and its well said. The problem is liberals cant read what goes against their views. Just read history this is the Hitler plan up one side and down the other. The goal is to remove all guns from the people of america. The day that happens the FUROR obamaass has a seat for life and we the people will live in fear that they can be arrested and held for years with no trial, shades of Hitlers Germany.Now is the time to stand for the Constitution. WE can only hope we have enough military people that stand with the people and hold their nose every day they go to work and endure the endurable but these brave patriots will be there for us when the time comes.

        • http://www.facebook.com/ken.jacobsen2 Ken Jacobsen

          well said. I will post this on my timeline. very good information.

        • http://www.facebook.com/robert.jones.522 Robert Jones

          I know what you mean, I load my own and I am having a hard time finding bullets and brass. But I have quite a few already loaded and they are hollow points.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          It tells me to hang onto these four AK's and this three thousand rounds of ammo.

      • TheSunDidIt

        The fun thing is, hundreds of thousands of us are old guys and not fit to "run" so, we'll have to stand and hold. It's called a "DIP" (Die In Place). But, those of us who served during Vietnam also know how to take a lot of the enemy with us. That said, we're not there yet. Trust in God, not the government or even your "arms". If you've ever seen the Bible you'll notice one of His favorite tactics isn't typically to "rain fire and brimstone". It's to confuse the enemies of God's people. They end up shooting each other and the Israelites just had to walk around picking up their enemies' weapons most of the time.

        • Patriot

          “When a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

          Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776.

        • W_R_Monger

          Good to see you here Patriot. I'm sure that when the fur begins to fly I'll see you next to my BiA (Brothers in Arms) and myself. We'll be in good company

        • Patriot

          Dittos there W_R_Monger.
          Looks like things may be coming to a head.

        • Dustin

          When and where do we muster? Im in.

        • W_R_Monger

          I'd say to go online but old groups are leery of new members...
          All I can say for now is to keep your ear to the ground (an old expression).

        • Dustin

          Will do. thank you.

        • Conservativesniper

          Be careful, the US senate rescinded an order to keep your email from being read by da damn gummint. CYA

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

          I have nothing against numbers but for myself I will hunt by my self at long range. Scatter and nail them from afar. It is impossible to fight against a group like this.

        • jwright673

          Let it happen. When our protectors see they are outnumbered, they will lay down their arms and join the vets and others standing up to an oppressive government. It should have happened during the first term...

        • Patriot

          For all our sakes, I hope you are right!

        • Nikita63

          From one such vet to another: AMEN, BROTHER!

        • Bruce Stroh

          OOrah, brother! I'm one of those Vietnam DIPs, too! Psalms, 144:1 -- "Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for battle, and my fingers for battle."

        • SkyPilot

          Thank you! Well spoken. I'm 83 and ready to be a DIP need be, but I'm praying Grace will win over Guns.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Scott/100000892062462 Joe Scott

          I am one of the hundred thousand old guys, and I am called peg leg by my friends. I am also a vet from the nam area, but did not serve there. Any way to make a long story short I will be front and center when and if the time comes. To all the vets old and young we will suceed and thanks to all of you who served. PEG LEG

        • James Tabone

          As for myself I will stand until I drop - just too old to run for cover. The guys in the Alamo did the same thing.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-M/864710542 Steve M

        How, thery are takingh our guns from us????

        • colleenf

          NO. They will NOT be able to disarm ALL of us.

        • Patriot

          If they don't know you have them and you don't tell them, how are they to know? They can't take something that they don't know exist!

        • prezelect1

          You can always say you sold them at a flea market or swap meet.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jtbrowning1 Jeffrey Thomas Browning

          Just because he passes out his edict's, er,,, I mean his "Executive Orders", doesn't mean we'll passively obey. They can pass all the bans and confiscation orders they want to. I'm not giving up so much as a slingshot. I'm too damned old to run, and just too stubborn to give up, so I guess they'll just have to whip my a$$, to get my stuff.

      • pduffy

        Where are they? What are they waiting for? What further destruction of the constitution do they need to rise up? Are they waiting for orders to kill before they rise up? If Obama has enough time to purge the discenters, there will be nobody left but Nazi drones.

        • colleenf

          I think they are not acting as yet because they know public opinion will not be with them at this time. It will take something pretty drastic in order for them to stand up and stand against obama and his thugs. Remember, the American Revolution was initiated because the British were trying to disarm the colonists and one person stood up against them. It was the shot heard around the world.
          We didn't get involved formally into WW ll until Pearl Harbor was attacked.
          It will, unfortunately, take some kind of tragic event/disaster for the people to rise up against govt tyranny.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

          Wasn't 9/11 enough to get the people to rise up against our tyrannical government? After all, they did it, or at minimum allowed it to happen.

        • Patriot

          Hey Stephen, it was a group of Arabs that was responsible for 9/11.
          It was Bill Clinton who was at fault for handling the 1st attack as a police matter rather than an act of war for which it was.

        • Edward53

          Go F yourself, Paulbot. You're a traitor.

        • prezelect1

          All of you, turn power of attorney over to your church making you a ward or agent of the church where as all your earnings belong to the church that can legally give you an allowance of 90% with 10% to God for your tithes. On your w-2 form claim exempt from all taxes with stipulation that checks be made out to your church. No taxes--no I.R.S., no political salaries for big government. The money you pay into social security you now invest in fortune 500 investments or precious metals for you own retirement. do not be like the grasshopper, be like the ant and put something away for your leaner years. As for government, my plan of 50, one from each state screened and tested for honesty and integrity serve four years at salary agreed upon by "We the People", receive generous severance package, go home to job being held by temps, making room for next 50 being groomed.

          Benjamin Franklin

        • Patriot

          I suspect there will be a spark that will ignite a conflagration. Either a move on the Governments part to impose some illegal actions against the citizenry or it will be something orchestrated like Sandy Hook perhaps.

          When that happens it will be time for all good men to come to the aid of their country!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phil-Bronner/100001112435407 Phil Bronner

        You are right....we will!

      • Patriot

        "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." – Thomas Jefferson

      • Malechi

        I have served, my 2 brothers have served. We are nearly ready to serve again. Only this time it will be a different occupation.

        • Patriot

          Thanks for your service and a hat-tip to you and your brothers!

      • Old_Nam_Squid

        Obama Speech: "We Need a Civilian National Security Force Just as Big as the Military"

      • pateboo

        Two Christmas' ago my dad and I were flying to my sisters in NY from O'Hare. My dad got searched because they found his shaving cream and toothpaste in his carry on bag. My dad was 84 at the time, just had knee surgery two months prior, was in the Navy, still attends Navy reunions, belongs to the Navy League, American Legion, marches in our 4th of July and Memorial Day parades, a 4th degree member of the Knights of Columbus, an usher at our church, and our ring tone at home is the Star Spangled Banner. And the TSA, who lets anyone wearing a Burka go through without a second glance, and lets the Muslim Socialist posing as President of the United States, fly all over the world at the taxpayer's expense, was worried about my dad because of his hygiene habits. Go figure that one out, because I sure can't.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffrey-Wimmer/761297288 Jeffrey Wimmer

        I would, and will, be one of those. As a retired military member, I joined OathKeepers for this very thing, to continually live by the oath of enlistment I took over 40 years ago.

      • Robertz

        That is why Obama is going all out now to de-gun us before that takes place.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=516859771 John Sweet

        So where are they now? How is it that they have let him go so long with out challenge?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

        Oh you can take that check to the bank and cash it.

      • Shadow_58

        As a Military Retiree and former CSM. I can assure you that I will not stand for anyone violating our Constitutional Rights. I always stand at the ready and keep my powder dry.

    • FLChristyB

      In a recent speech by Leon Panetta to troops in Italy he stated that American citizens did not need 'assault' weapons. The last thing this admin wants is Patriotic military men and women having the ability to stand up to our Tyranical government after their service and he seemed to be telling them that, at least that is how I took it.

    • Patriot

      I would hope they have started organizing a Citizens Army to oust this fricken camel jockey!

      • del

        better to train our military to take this fraud out of our white house and throw into jail for treason and fraud along with his cabinet, czars, and domestic terrorists

      • prezelect1

        I'm looking for people with intestinal fortitude to form convoy to D.C. for just that purpose, to oust the present form of government harming the people and install a new form of government beneficial to the people.

        Benjamin Franklin

    • kenhowes

      This is why they're pushing gun control so hard now.

    • TxnByBrth

      Of course it has been over 50 years ago when this happened, but if the Battle of Athens, TN is any indication we can have hope...


    • http://www.facebook.com/ray.ake Ray Ake

      you ALSO need to be ready to fight,,WE will not fight for you !!!

    • gamme

      Hope & pray!!!!!

      • Patriot

        And, be prepared and informed!

    • http://www.facebook.com/chosenrescue Fred Howard

      Mr. Taylor - More and more people are waking up to the facts about Obama's strategy and Action Plan to destroy our Constitutional Republic then reestablish the USA as a Sharia State totally under his control. He's much smarter or shrewder at this game of Chess, with the USA being the prize, than any of his challengers in Washington. A few like Rand Paul talk a good game but have no organization to give them clout. The Tea Party is the best we have at the moment. There is an alternative but no one has shown interest. I believe you et.al. are wishfully thinking that our ex-military will rise to the occasion when needed. Unless there is a unifying movement started soon, Obama will have his private militia paid for by we taxpayers and armed with .356 & .40 Caliber weapons using Hollow Point ammunition, which he has already purchased using our money, to defend his takeover. If you play Chess, you will understand the need for a Plan and Strategy to beat your opponent. If interested, please respond. We have a narrow window of opportunity to implement ([email protected]).

      • prezelect1

        Read my reply to Patriot: As for Obama's intellect, his I.Q.is 128, a man who repeatedly said corpse man for corpsman, smart? no, a puppet on a string with smarter ones than him pulling the strings and funding him just as they gave his organization, "Friends of Obama" the funds for him to give to his uncle and cousin in "08" to slaughter thousands in Kenya burning churches with people in them. One of those pulling the strings is George Sorros the Nazi who made it out of Europe with untold riches. Others are ones he is giving our money and military equipment to. No, he is not a smart man, only a good orator that can read a teleprompter. His I.Q. is well below being genius, mine is 20 points above his and I only consider myself as average.

        Benjamin Franklin

    • Rudolph Smith

      am ready to defend my family and my country with my life.

      • Patriot

        Just like many of us here!

      • Johnny Morris

        Here, here. Count me in.

    • Doodlebug

      This article only furthers my belief that we will have a second Civil War. I have never seen anyone, let alone the potus, have so much hate for America and the American people. He is truly a dictator and it is his way or the highway. And, it really shatters my belief that we will ever get things turned around and once again return to the America we knew only a few years ago. God Bless Us ALL, we will need it before the next four year are over.

    • philrobbins


    • http://twitter.com/DustyFae StarDust Dolittle

      Black Americans are seeing the truth about obama so we hope they will also band with all the Americans to stop the corrupted government. Thanks goes to God , l was praying they will see the truth. Please keep praying cause we may be more and more Americans of all race to clean out the WH.

      • Patriot

        All they need to understand is Obama is a fraud and has been using them as Useful Idiots and Tools. They also need to understand, he is not one of them! He is an Arab by over 60% and African black by 15% and about 25% white. % approx.

        Point is he will continue using them until they fulfill their usefulness and then they will be fodder for what's coming!

    • CaroRay

      Time for a military coup

    • alibaba123456

      Remember that many National Guard troops under Republicans will resist any orders given by the traitor. For instance in Michigan we have over 20,0000 miitia and a armoured brigade along with close air support. The regular army is disbanding to a great extent because no conflict in either Afghanistan or Iraq. Reminds of a certain tree that needs from time to time to be watered.

    • 7papa7

      I also think that many in the military would turn on our government. They have sworn to uphold the constitution. They have sworn to fight all enemies foreign and domestic. We now have a bigger problem with domestic enemies rather than foreign. The biggest enemy to America and the American way of life is located in Washington DC. We have a president, dictator, who is obsessed with destroying our country and a congress that is turning out to be complicit with the white house Marxist.

    • Dave Mowry

      As you wrote this, just where do you stand ?? This will be a problem for every American including you. You might want to think about that. Are you willing to possibly have to "go against" your own neighbor ? I hope we don't have to finf out, but when the time comes, I personally will stand for America as I know it. The problem I see here is that most of the posts lead me to believe that the majority of the people on here feel that military, current or ex, are going to be left to deal with this. As an American, you need to pull your weight either way.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000598541388 Ben Packard

      Can you stand and fight? This is everybody.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1552805917 David Roberts

      Veterans still feel a responsibility to defend the Constitution and I'm sure they will do just that.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1552805917 David Roberts

      We must never forget these words of Abe Lincoln, or fail to act upon them; "The
      American people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to
      overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution

    • Friscolady

      Won't know till it happens, however I suspect more would resist and when the rubber comes to the road how many of the lower ranks will refuse such an order.

  • martha chandler

    God help us!!!

    • Screeminmeeme

      martha chandler........Obama is in the White House because God permitted him to be. (Rom 13:1) He is a whipping stick in His hand to bring America to its knees in repentance for the savage murder of 54+million of our own children. We have been sold into captivity to violence, drugs and deviancy.

      God WILL help us.....if and when we repent as a Nation and humbly seek Him to deliver us from the evils of Obama and his minions.

      • Cool_Arrow

        Or we can be Haiti.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

        Speak for yourself, Screemin'. I had nothing whatsoever to do with murdering those 54+ million children! I'm sick of the way God-fearing Christians are being made to feel guilty for crimes they did not commit!

      • prezelect1

        It is sad to think that we let evil doers kill so many more even before they were given a chance to exhibit what they could do for mankind. Our only consolation that none of them are in Hell, they are all with our Heavenly Father.

        Benjamin Franklin

  • Screeminmeeme

    This is no surprise to those of us who have been shadowing Obama for years. To say that the man is diabolical is an understatement.

    • Patriot

      It's not only Obama its the dregs of society he surrounds himself with.
      Axelrod, Jerrad, Pritzkers, etc are just as dangerous. I don't think Obama could exist without them. Remove them from the equation and I think a definite blow will have been struck.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

        You nailed it. Obama needs to be impeached and tried for treason, and so do all of his advisers and appointees. And if you look closely, you will see that those people aren't Muslims. They are Jews instead.

        • Patriot

          I believe Jerrad is an Iranian born, Communist sympathizer.
          Hillary's homosexual squeeze is a Muslim and her and her family are Members of Muslim terrorist groups (Muslim Brotherhood) embraced by Obama. I don't recall details regarding Axelrod. Meathead does have a number of Communist ties and was raised by his commie parents in New York. I suspect, he may be German. Just hold a finger under his nose :)
          You are correct, many of his staff, cabinet members are in fact Jews.

        • Edward53

          I believe you fancy those Nazi's, don't you, Paulbot? Just like Ronnie Paul, you hate the Jews and Israel. But you sure love the Muzzies and terrorists.

        • prezelect1

          You are wrong on two counts, 1. He cannot be impeached as he is not a citizen. 2. He has 7 members of Islam in the capitol including himself and has no use for any Jew as they are enemies of Islam, you can't name any Jewish people in the federal government and how can you tell a Jew from a Muslim by appearance? If he were successful in converting the U.S. into an Islamic nation, he would be one of the first beheaded after having served his purpose being that he is homosexual and like Chris Stevens would first be molested sexually and tortured.

          Benjamin Franklin

  • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

    Jim Garrow - I'm still waiting for a name and evidence provided by that source that shows this to be the case. Your source could very well be "me, myself, and I"; Americans have been burned by claims of anonymous sources in the past. How can anyone verify your claim if you will not reveal your source?

    • http://www.facebook.com/wally.stewart2 Wally Stewart

      the proof is in the puddin just goggle it theres been 5 generals forced to resign early an 4 chapins

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

        Then one of them should step forward and reveal himself as the source...and provide an evidence dump. That is what journalism is---demanding the substance behind the claim.

        • cath raymond

          There's enough evidence in watching the presidents actions...my guess is his next move will be to eliminate anyone who has been dismissed who talks...SS, anyone?

        • 57girl

          Sgt. Manning serves as a classic example of what happens to our troops who expose the truth. .... God forbid, the people ever become aware of what is 'really' happening in Afghanistan. Probably a preview of the same sheit that would/will be happening here, in America, before all is said and done.

          Truth has become Treason, and evidently, so has Patriotism (on behalf of our Government, anyway).

    • Randy K

      So, you HONESTLY harbor some "doubt" that this little communist bastage wouldn't (in a hot minute) use the American military he so hates, to "put down" what he will inevitably claim is an "insurrection" by those of us who WILL NOT under any circumstances abdicate our GOD GIVEN rights to his executive will. No wonder this filthy PIG was "re-elected". Fools have no rights. Nor should they. Just keep marching on to our own repeat of pre-Nazi Germany. Fortunately you will be in the minority this time.

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

        That is correct. I need to see some proof or evidence before believing an anonymous claim; I feel the need to be consistent in that regard. After all, I have seen anonymous sources that have turned out to be fabricated.

        If I take Garrow at face value, then I have to take anyone's claim at face value.

        • Randy K

          So, you are incapable of observing this little SOB in action and drawing the simple and OBVIOUS conclusion that he will "attempt" anything to pass his pig-commie agenda. I have absolutely NO REASON whatsoever to doubt that he will trash MY Constitution, usurp MY military (of which I served in 3 branches)and do EVERYTHING he can get away with to destroy MY nation. I don't need Garrow to validate for me what I already know about hussein obama.

        • Patriot

          Just do some of your own homework and draw your own conclusions.

    • SJvet

      The Doubting Thomases of America will be its downfall as they're led to the slaughter with the rest of us. It happened in every country that brought in communism.

      • Patriot

        Makes one wonder how many times history has to repeat itself before some people catch on! :)

      • Princess Pi

        And the Main Stream Obama Media? They will be the first to go. That is how it always happens. Chris Matthews won't be feeling tingle up his leg but a trickle down it.

    • W_R_Monger

      His sources very life may be at stake if the identity of that source is revealed.

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

        If he's telling the truth and can prove it - Americans will rise up behind him. Evidence turns skeptics into believers.

    • Patriot

      Similar stories have been popping up over the past several years.
      Are you aware that Obummer's own advisers have been pushing this crap for some time suggesting they will need to KILL about 20 Million Americans to get the remaining populous in line? Try Google. I'm sure there are also video interviews available.

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

        That claim came from William Ayers...but he is not in the administration, and I doubt that Obama would actually want to KILL Americans; that is essentially the same as what truthers believe about 9/11...in addition, I doubt that Obama would want to serve time in jail afterward for killing someone.

        As for that claim being pushed---as per the document - http://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf - can you show me where that would come into play with civilian citizens? A quick search of the terms American or citizen in the document does not make it appear as though there would be re-education camps, unless there are other sources.

        • Patriot

          No Ayers in not a public figure in the Administration but he is a good friend, associate and brother in arms of the racist homosexual Marxist.

          I don't think you know much about Obama and his past! And if Obama gave orders to kill thousands, who is going to put him in Jail. I have no doubt that he would have absolutely no qualms about killing Americans. After all he's trying to kill of the greatest Country in history.

          I don't need to hear about the truthers or whatever your trying to interject into the discussion. It has no relevancy to my remarks. Plus I didn't interject anything into the conversation regarding any PDF Doc. What is with you people, where you just can't stay focused on topic. Sorry, I have a three error policy and your done!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KSRJ2G37O3AFOH3LISCRMFJYLE R

      It will be verified for you when you see the barrel of their guns. They are already enslaving us all through taxation.

    • Edward53

      Instead of asking everybody for evidence why don't you just check it out for yourself?

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

        Because the evidence does not add up to support the claim.

        • Edward53

          Where is your evidence that refutes my claim?

  • http://www.ignoredrealityblog.com Tony from ignoredrealityblog.c

    Those in the military will go through all the training they are required to go through. However ... to think that most of them would actually do what the wannabe dictator would actually like them to do is a mistake. they won't do it.


    • Patriot

      Hey Tony, is that just wishful thinking or do you have some evidence? :)

      • John Mescas

        He's just talking out his rear.

    • W_R_Monger

      True, there is still that "Lawful Order" clause which is a "get out of jail free" card. However I had a Warrant Officer who had showed a group of us enlisted how futile that defense can be. He simulated an unlawful order when we were in a field training operation and demanded a headcount (of DEAD enemies). There was none so he "insisted" we produce one. When the highest ranking NCO refused to kill the POWs the WO pulled out his 9 mm and performed a simulated shot to the NCOs head. The WO went to the next in line with the same "request". This guy said that situation could never happen. The WO replied that in this instance he was THE authority and no one would know of his actions until they returned to OPS and by then the unlawfully given order would have already had irreparable consequences.

      This is the all too real scenario that will be played out and for those caught up in it they'll have little to no control over the outcome. You may convince yourself that this can never happen but to me I've seen first hand that it very certainly can.

      I've always said that it only takes one person of strength, of character to stand and do what's right but I've seen that it only takes one trigger pull to make many back down, or the one to "lay down"...

      I Pray every night that it never has to come to what we all see coming...

      • http://www.ignoredrealityblog.com Tony from ignoredrealityblog.c

        If you are referring to forcing the military to kill civilians by making an example of a few enlisted men, remember that if the scenerio were ever to become a reality, those enlisted men have live ammunition as well. Soldiers have not really changed over the decades since the war this country had to offer to my generation. As much as the leftists would like to see it be otherwise (as evidenced by a couple of comments below), soldiers will remain loyal to their own people when their people are defending themselves against an overthrow of their nation. I have maintained a close friendship with many past military officers over the years and I have become friends with several present day military officers as well. Some are pilots, some are infantry and none of them will ever fire upon American citizens who are defending their country. Talk is talk. Rumors are rumors. Leftists can have their dreams of America's downfall. But if it is to be, it won't be at the hands of America's military.

        • W_R_Monger

          I agree. I still stay in touch with those I served with. I was Army Aviation for 13 yrs and an Army Scout for 4 yrs and all I served with would never fire upon American citizens whether they were armed or not. Like others have said we all see all Americans as mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, brothers, and sisters. We never saw race, color, creed, we always could only see Americans.

          It only takes one idiot though to start a shooting match, I just hope that one idiot hasn't the nuts to start it.

          It also takes only one person with conviction to stop something like what is being surmised....

        • http://www.ignoredrealityblog.com Tony from ignoredrealityblog.c

          I agree.

  • http://www.facebook.com/howard.a.milor Howard A Milor Jr.

    He may get leaders to do that, but I do not beleive he will ever get the men and women in uniform to do that.

    • Patriot

      I for one, hope your right. I don't like the idea of killing anyone, but I for one will, if I have to protect myself and mine! That also includes my fellow citizens!

  • http://www.facebook.com/ccreamer22 Chris Creamer

    I want names and documentation

    • NINJA10R KLR650

      Of course you do. You'd play suck up (or suck off) to the politburo with them.

    • kal1and2

      I want a Free America Again

  • James Maxwell

    American miltary men and women are taught to hit what they aim at. This becomes very
    criticle when you are in a combat situation and in towns and cities. Our enemies are
    not above putting innocent men, women, childre or even babies in the line of fire.
    There are times, unfotunately, when innocents are killed as a result of this action. To
    say that our troops are being conditioned to commit such act upon American is foolish
    and irrisponsible to say the least. I am not saying that it would not happen but it would
    depend upon the circumstances at the time of the event. Much like what happened
    during the invasion of Black Americans at Reseruction City in Washington and the
    riots, looting and damgage being done in the 60's. The troops were given orders to
    only fire upon the looters if they tried to burn a building down endangering others.
    they had been issued ammo and their weapons were loaded. The rioters/looters
    knew this and refrained from doing such things where troops were. But the broke
    out windows and stole ever thing in sight. After the riots were over the troops had
    to go and clean up the mess that had been made, catalog all the loot they found,
    and put it in storage incase the criminals came back to claim it. I would suspect that
    the governmeth is still paying the tab on that one.


    Nothing surprises me about Mr Obama. The man is arrogrant and a narcissist. The recipe/formula for a tyrant. He accuses the other party and everyone else for the things he himself does, eg ginning up fear etc etc. believe me, he will continue to demonise the NRA and the GOP and wont stop till he destroys them. He knows this country is ripe for his left wing party picking.

    • Patriot

      That little ploy by he way is called transference. That's when you blame your opponent with that which you do or are planning on doing. I'm very nervous about many elected officials in the republican party, but as an NRA Member, I maintain my faith in them.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

        The Republicans are only marginally better than the Dems, and in some ways worse. They are the ones primarily responsible for sending our troops overseas for multiple tours of duty, to get blown up fighting wars that have nothing to do with making America more secure. Homeland Security, the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, etc all came under Bush's watch, not Obama's. People seem to have very short memories.

        Neither party is going to save us. The left and the right are just two wings of the same bird of prey.

  • http://www.facebook.com/louis.kuran Louis Kuran

    This is not surprising at all. Little by little he is stripping the people of their rights.

  • SFS444

    Yeah, dont think my boys will be taking part in that.

  • TheSunDidIt

    Do not fear folks. God is on the side of right. As for the "progs" having all the toys, that's not something to worry about. Too may of us trained in how to take others toys away from them. And how to use them. I'm not worried about coming to a gun fight unarmed. I only worry that I'll cause the idiot to get so afraid that he'll use all his ammo before I have a chance to take his weapon. Hate when that happens.

    • Patriot

      All men have fears, but the Brave put down their fears and go forward. Sometimes to Death, but always to Victory.

      Time to muster that resolve and courage folks, the time is approaching.
      We each have a responsibility to do what we can dependent on our experience, capability and usefulness.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-M/864710542 Steve M

    After Kent State the military said "Never Again", that they would never again shoot fellow Americans. Will they shoot their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, sons, daughters? Talk to any military you know and remind them, also any police officers, FBI that you know, remind them who we are. Will they obey a despot???

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-A-DeHart/100003260975568 James A. DeHart

    Bottom line, when the average citizen starts to fear their government, whether real or perceived, you know what must happen. As a veteran, I swore to 'protect' all Americans, whether on foreign soil or domestically, and unless something radically has happened to the allegiance our service men and women swear to when enlisting, I would not fear our US Armed Forces. We all realize our military, salaries paid by us, are not going to start shooting us, regardless of how radical this Commander-In-Chief is.

    • Patriot

      I for one hope to God you are right!

  • W_R_Monger

    The Oath that we Veterans and those still serving took still means something to many if not most of us. Berry believes that just because he's wearing "big boy" pants that service members, both current and prior will obey his every psychotic whim... Man is he in for a rude awakening...

  • amazingoly

    His military would turn on him if that is his order. Count on it.

    • Patriot

      I find it interesting that Obama wanted a civilian military in defiance of the Constitution that would be as well equipped as our military and a well funded as well. Why would any rational American human being seek that? Flood relief? Ya, right and I've got a Camel I can sell you! :)

      • Conservativesniper

        Is it just me or does the guy in this YouTube video seem like he's instructing a class on the importance of fire discipline? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VqG_4ADFfQ

        • Patriot

          Sorry, I don't speak ubonic! :)
          Just kidding. That's exactly what it sounds like.
          Complaining that the Ni@@ers need to learn how to shoot and place their shot on the target.
          I think however he's talking about shooting crackers (whites!)
          I don't think these folks know the meaning of discipline! :)

      • prezelect1

        How much for the camel?

        Benjamin Franklin

        • Patriot

          I'll trade you for Obama's ass and I don't mean Michelle Obama! :) :) :)

    • Conservativesniper

      That would be OUR military. And it will be a death knell for all who follow The One.

    • del

      Let us hope so....he is a total piece of chit

  • Whiplash

    He already has union thugs, gang bangers, prisons full of sociopaths, and a vast number of other entities that would revel in this kind of activity.. The legal society will protect them but not the victims of them.....!!!

  • fideux

    Obama makes it tough for any thinking person to trust him or his judgement! It is beyond comprehension that our body politic blindly elected him. He's a fuerer wan-a-be!

    • Patriot

      What's to trust?

  • Steve Humble

    My oldest son is currently in basic training for the Air Force. Before he left we talked about his oath and his loyalty to the United States Constitution, not to a dictatorial President. He will not participate in a war against civilians and I suspect there will be thousands who will refuse orders against their own people.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ralph.collier.5 Ralph Collier

      Steve, I have spoken with a number of current and ex-military and they all said the same thing; I took an oath to defend and protect the Consititution of the United States and will not fire on US citizens....this is where HS, and all of the other government agencies will respond, having been recently armed by the socialist in the WH.

      • Patriot

        Hey Ralph, are you aware if Officer's take the same oath as enlisted personnel?
        I was under the impression there was a difference.

        • prezelect1

          Patriot, no difference, up through the ranks upon enlistment. O.C.S., upon graduation. Also the oath is administered to R.O.T.C., National Guard, all military reserves.

          Benjamin Franklin

    • Wayright2

      They shouldn't refuse. But, as soon as they are locked and loaded, they should turn around and shoot the ones who gave the illegal orders.
      Later, when the dust has settled and the question is asked, "Did you shoot officers?" You reply, "Yah, but they were all bad." (Tip of the hat to Arnold Schwartzenegger in "True Lies.")

  • hardhead

    I beleive the gays and all hate just like Ovomit, so they could with some fine drugs they may all be robots and not know what they are doing. Or think they are getting a promotion of some sorts. This is a line that I dont want crossed in my book. I am ex military and want a peoples court on the bOY ZERo. Since all the courts are not working for America anymore.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-M/864710542 Steve M

    After Kent State, the Military said Never Again would they shoot fellow Americans...If you know any Military, any Police, FBI, remind them that we are their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, sons, daughters...Would they shoot us or obey a DESPOT...

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

      I remember Kent State very well when it happened. It had a sea change of an effect on Americans' whole view of the war in Vietnam. All that took was a half dozen college students getting shot by our own national guard. It had a PROFOUND EFFECT! That is one thing that continues to give me hope from all this insanity.

      • Patriot

        Ya, I recall that shameful moment as well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve.atkinson.948 Steve Atkinson

    no surprise here, if you can't convert them by rhetoric, convert thrm by force!

  • End Time

    Mr. Obama might have "special" squads made up of "minority" citizens who would gladly fire on any caucasian citizens. Minorities have been taught that they've done wrong since America's inception. A lot of people will wish that they were never born.

    • Patriot

      I Suspect those are the very folks he will use. Useful Idiots and their are many within the military.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

      Don't forget the 30+ million illegal aliens who may have obtained guns from "Fast and Furious". They could be the real sleeper cells.

  • George

    We look at Syria and wonder how can the military kill thousands of its own people. Well early in 1830's when the "Government" demanded the Mormon men in Far West Missouri give up their weapons, and they did, what took place afterward? Rapine, pillage & death. So it can happen here with the right people who are willing to follow a messiah like leader. Just look at the movie "Red Dawn", the first one, and now picture the "invaders" as US Govt military and there you have the future if we let up and give up our freedoms. AND the liberal mainstream media, the propaganda arm of the White house, is in full support. God help us cause no one else will.

    • Patriot

      Get ready folks!

      • JT1964

        Understand though, that the internet and cell phone service will be shut down during that time. We really need to have a backup plan for communication when/if anything like this takes place. Any ideas on how we keep up to date and coordinated during this time?

        Most likely, he will use drones to carry out most of the major offensives. One POS in a command center can operate multiple units and the firepower is pretty impressive. Here in Wisconsin, the DOD is building multiple drone landing strips on bases. We need to be able to counter this measure also.

        We need to do this planning and work on solutions in advance. Not asking for the answers right now, but it is important to be thinking of solutions rather than concentrating on the problems.

        Our military and our police forces will stand with the people. If this President is foolish enough to try something like this, the Tree of Liberty will again be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

        As stated before, WOLVERINES!!!

        God Bless!!

        • Patriot

          Logistics will be daunting for sure. That's why contacting friends and family in law enforcement and military would be helpful to get a feel for where they stand on the matter and what assistance they may be able to supply.
          Any access to weapons, ammunition, explosives, communications etc?

          I think communications will have to be on our existing radio airwaves. They may be able to scramble but they can't turn the airwaves off. Communications will have to be encoded for sure. Networks will need to be established with strict security in place. Each member of the network will be on a need to know basis. Access to armories by friendlies would be helpful as well. Just a thought...

          WOLVERINES!!! & God Bless!

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

          Just remember that the gov't will surely know the existence and whereabouts of any armories, and that those will be the first things they take out with their drone aircraft.

        • Patriot

          They better know where their own armories are :)
          They can take them out with drones once they've been looted and emptied!

    • W_R_Monger

      God helps those who help themselves. I've always believed that. He will show the way, it is up to us to take the path...

  • 7PastorCarmine7

    As a retired Navy Chief Petty Officer I would disobey His orders.

  • TiredOfIt

    Let him get rid of the officers that won't fire on the citizens. What he'll find is when his officers order their enlisted to shoot, they'll be the ones shot! And all the folks that are now ex-military will be training the civilians. We'll have a larger army, and we'll have better motivation. Bring it BO...

    • Patriot

      I for one would hope that would be how it goes down!

  • theodorej

    Scary Indeed ..... Let us pray it does not come to this .... It is time for our leadership to stand for the principles that God had once bestowed on this once blessed nation..

    • Patriot

      I for one would not hold my breadth hoping they will. I think they've already cast their die!

  • http://www.facebook.com/brendahughs Brenda Lynn Hughs

    all of this is happening why isnt obama being impeached?? how come no ones standing up and getting his ass out of our white house???

    • Patriot

      They have been planning this for decades. They now have almost all the chess pieces in place. When they are, it will begin!

      • http://www.facebook.com/brendahughs Brenda Lynn Hughs

        well im not going to sit back and watch them kill my children.. i will take a few of those bastards out with me!

        • Patriot

          Don't blame you one bit. We all have to do what we have to do!
          Who would have ever thought that American Citizens would find themselves in this situation in their own country?

    • JT1964

      The Impeachment process has to pass through the Senate. Harry Reid would NEVER bring this to the floor for discussion or a vote. Understand?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carol-Fryer/100000156546455 Carol Fryer

    What did you expect? The first memo was leaked when he got in office that vets and conservatives were possible terrorists. Hello? Earth to media!!!

  • CaptTurbo

    I think it's clear that this has been the usurper's agenda from the start. We must not let the evil impostor succeed.

  • mom58

    this is exactly why I thought he got rid of Gen. James Mattis or anyone else that will stand in his way

  • jb80538

    I've felt for a long time that barry's ultimate goal is to destroy America by any means possible. I also think events like Aurora theater, Sandy hook, are all part of the bigger picture. He will use those types of events against the American people and our way of life. He's been working on destroying our economy since he was a senator from Illinois.

    • Patriot

      Yes he will use them if not orchestrate them.
      He's been looking to destroy our economy long before being a senator from Illinois.

    • prezelect1

      O bummer commented that he hated to think what might have happened had his daughters been in the theater. I can tell you what would have happened, Nothing, the shooter would never have gotten past the presidential security guards and secret police, no one would have been killed. Too bad his daughters weren't there.

      Benjamin Franklin

  • allen

    Sounds like a call for an assassination, He may litmus test the wrong guy and a real patriot will take care of business.

    • Nadine

      But better not use a GUN!

  • NINJA10R KLR650

    I had no doubt five years ago when this SHlTBAG Kenyan started his bid that he was anti America, American.
    He has had an incredible amount of assistance from turncoat agencies, companies and individuals plus a total leftist media.
    Please remember to keep this media in mind when our rights are being violated by force. They are as much the real enemy as the tyrants occupying government right now.

  • KDS

    I think most liberals think that Obama is saving them from those dangerous guns. Wait till they see massive corpses on the streets because he tried to take them away.

    • JT1964

      And the funny thing is that history shows that it is the "different" people that are ultimately executed in any communist/fascist regime. Liberals fail to understand that their right to be different is upheld ONLY by the people that they despise; christian, heterosexual, 2nd Amendment loving, conservatives. Their "friends" would sell them out in a second to save their own skins or to make a buck.

      • Patriot

        Well aid JT1964! One thing I have come to learn is that those of the liberal persuasion can't be trusted! You also can't turn your back on them either!

        • JT1964

          Absolutely correct. They may try to legislate guns from our hands, but few have the intestinal fortitude to try to take them from us; which probably is in their best interest, IF they want to keep breathing.

          Keep the powder dry Patriot!

  • http://twitter.com/southerngirl561 Tracie Smith

    With over 2 million fire arms sold since Nov. 2012...they might be biting off more than they want.

  • A Vet Who Cares

    This is true! My son is in the Army and confirmed with their training now. I ask him if he or others like him could pull the trigger on other mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters etc etc. His remark was NO, and neither would my friends!

    • Nadine

      OH God...I hope not! There is a very sick man in the White House!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

      I tell you what the soldiers need to be doing. They need to inform their commanding officers that not only will they not obey orders to shoot Americans, but they will arrest their C.O. at gunpoint for merely giving such an order. I believe this is lawful under the UCMJ.

      • Patriot

        "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." – Thomas Jefferson

  • floridarooster

    Just when you think that Obama could not be more dangerous to our country that he has already demonstrated, then this. Truly outrageous, and if there is proof of this, Obama should be impeached. Chances are he will skate on this issue since nobody in Congress, the Judiciary, or the main stream media has the inclination or the guts.

    • Patriot

      Personally, since we can't prove his citizenship, I'd settle for hanging!

  • Nadine

    This is NOT funny! How much more are we gonna let them push us around!

  • Kent

    And I'm sure you can read this on the Internet. Let's send Sheriff joe out to find out the really, really real story and then he can have a press conference. Don't suppose a military senior official could have said this based on no evidence. Naw too cool a conspiracy theory. Go get Joe. Hell figure it out. Orl would also probably assist.

  • Fixthatgigline

    Don't fool yourself ! Don't be fooled into blaming Obama alone for the misdirection of the military. This breakdown started with President Clinton. I personally saw many, many, many good leaders, enlisted and officers be forced out or otherwise enticed to leave the service shortly after Clinton took office. THank God Bush got in to help reestablish morale as short lived as it was. Obama is just finishing what Clinton started. What do you think he meant in his inaugral speech?

  • icemancold

    What is scary is OBAMA will call in Foreign UN Troops dress them in US Military uniforms so the People of the USA will not be able to tell them apart from our own soldiers and not fire on them.That will make the take over in OBAMA'S Twisted muslim mind.

    • RJLigier

      It doesn't matter what the color the uniform is if they are firing on law abiding citizens.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

        Touche, RJ.

  • sovereigntyofone

    They've tried this before, but used the UN pledge. They wanted the military to take an Oath of service to the United Nations instead of the United States and our Constitution.
    It failed when the " cat " got out of the bag and a public uproar was caused. All Obama is doing is " dusting off " what failed before. Yes, Obama wants " A few good lunatics " to do his " wet work " ( No offense intended to our Marines, God bless you all ). Obama has delusions of self importance, a legend in his own mind. Obama would fit right in with Hitler and the Nazi party. Right now he is forming his own SS military to control this nation. It's that simple.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

      Ditto on my above comment. When are you guys going to shake your Marxist brainwashing and realize that Hitler fought AGAINST Marxism, which is what is threatening to engulf the whole world right now?

      • Edward53

        So, you're OK with the many millions of people that Hitler murdered? Ronnie Paul must be so proud of you Stephen. You're a Nazi just like Paul.

  • pysco

    It only goes to prove that Obama absolutely intends to confiscate weapons........Here's advise to military members, sooner or later you will retire, you will not have weapons either, you will be at the mercy of the government, and also at the mercy of the people who's weapons you have confiscated.

  • RJLigier

    New selection process for military leadership.........exactly as I called it if homosexual sociopath became President and the repeal of DADT...........utilizing the military to form an SS composed of borderline psychotic homosexuals and bisexuals, the most violent among us. Borderline personality disorder is characterized by impulsive and violent behaviors. The 2nd Amendment is the great equalizer when dealing with borderline psychotic adults, whether in the context of criminal acts or tyrannical government. We're clearly dealing with the same sociopathic homosexuals and bisexuals that led the Third Reich.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

      I was nodding in agreement until your very last two words. The Third Reich were the good guys, WE and our Soviet ALL-LIES were the bad guys in WW2. We are paying for that mistake now.

      • Edward53

        "The Third Reich were the good guys". "We and our Soviet ALL-LIES were the bad guys in WW2". What a load of crap. You must be a Ron Paul supporter. Do you support the murderous Palestinians and terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah, too? That's how Ron Paul got so many supporters, he found all of you that had the weakest minds and then brainwashed you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.callahan.140 John Callahan

    obama is not the president. He is a fraud. He must be removed from office immediately and tried for treason against the people of this Country. We can not and must not let him get away with this. If congress and the courts will do nothing, it is imperative that we the people do something. We can not let this treason go on. Arm yourselves, and stock up on ammo. You will need it very soon.

  • pysco

    Having the military train to shoot civilians, is not the act of an elected president, its the act of a tyrant. Obama is a traitor to American freedom, this is just another piece of evidence.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

      If this isn't sufficient grounds for impeachment, then what the heck is? Is getting a blow job in the Oval Office a more serious offense than planning the genocide of most American citizens? Come on, Congress, who are you working for anyway?

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

        What would be sufficient action is an actual or attempted execution of said policy.

  • The Old Man

    maybe the commanders will be willing to give the order, but will the rank and file service men actually shoot americans.

    • RJLigier

      I think they will frag the homosexual and bisexual officers........

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

        I sure as heck hope so! Point those weapons in the RIGHT DIRECTION for a change!

  • http://twitter.com/knussel Babsan

    Obama turning out to be another Stalin ,Muslim evil in full bloom

  • paulyz

    They will only be able to shoot all the Liberals, because they gave up their 2nd. Amendment right to bear arms.

  • ajfrench

    No surprise here. I guess us rw loons aren't the loons afterall. O'Reilly and his Fox News friends come to mind as the loons now. Afterall, if they had listened to us; things could not have gotten this far out of hand.

    • Patriot

      I think O'Reilly has become useless starting on day one with his "Let's give the president the benefit of the doubt" How big of you Bill. How much more do you need to know Obama is no good and an enemy of the State?

  • samtman

    BS rules this this posting. I have heard these kinds of stories and rumore's for the last 50 yearsmade up the the gun lobby propaganda machine. Most people who read these kinds of postings east thlis kind of pablum up like it was written in the bible.I'm just afraid that some half wit with a gun he bought at a gun show will take these kinds of strories seriosly and cause another tragedy.

    • Patriot

      Let me ask; Would you agree with the following statement:

      “When a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

    • Edward53

      Sammy, I'm pretty sure that the black people who are committing all of the murders in Chicago aren't members of the NRA. What's your point? Are you just another black racist (black people are the most racist people in America)?

      • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

        Where is your evidence of black racism?

        • Edward53

          I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to samtman so STFU. Where's your evidence of white racism?

        • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

          There are individuals in each who are racist...but to claim that whites or blacks are racist as a whole is factually false unless you're using a never-before-used definition.

        • Patriot


        • Edward53

          And where is your evidence to prove they are not?

  • http://www.facebook.com/frank.wacaser Frank Wacaser

    I can't believe that there wouldn't be an impeachment before then. So all service people left in the military will be willing to shoot any of us that Ob says to ???!!! &*%$#@facebook-1754629692:disqus

  • Jerry Leoneyuo

    Dump TV and Hollywood. Fox is not your friend. The rest are worse. Dump TV and Hollywood or you support O.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ray.ake Ray Ake

    JUST LIKE HITLER,,America you better Wake up NOW !!! he means to enslave all of you..liberals are the new SS in our country..

    • RJLigier

      SS were borderline psychotic homosexuals and bisexuals, the violent among us.

  • elmerf

    After the Benghazi malfeasance, I have no confidence in the officer corp. It has regressed to Vietnam quality. I would not advise any young man or woman to go into the serice today with this officer corp and military leadership. The fish rots from the head down and that starts with the Jugeared Wonder.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1314248751 Robert Stewart

    This may be the straw that breaks Obama's back! He is counting on a little to much, but it is a sure way to get him out of the white House, feet first!

  • http://www.facebook.com/eugene.lubben Eugene Lubben

    ODUMBA is a stinking muslim and wants to kill all white Americans and some black Americans who vote Republican ,, the sh-t face king wants to make America into a muslim nation ,,,,,,,

  • term limit ar.15

    Let them. Start. Them we will know when to return fire.

  • michael lawless

    the muslims are coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    the muslims are coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • pennpa

    Got my tinfoil hat on for this but I've read where more and more gang members are joining the military. A great way to learn how to use weapons and learn battle tactics. I've also read that gang members in the US number over 800,000. Let's see, 800,000 thugs led by military trained NCO types, armed through various federal Fast and Furious style programs unleashed on a populace recently disarmed by the evisceration of the Second Amendment and given a chance to "settle scores" and get "reparations. Sounds like a plan to me. Please check out Oathkeepers.org.

  • drjosefmengelederwasserangel

    when they are gone, mark my word, all hell will break lose and America will be lost.

    why wait for then??? let's do em now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1240388666 Donna Smith

    Yes, because many of the military in this day and time are the younger ones who had no Christian upbringing and are some of the foolish young that voted for Obummer. What we are seeing now are the ones raised with both parents working outside the home so they couls sustain the life of opulence they desired . These young people were raised by the media and Hollywood ! There are always the exceptions to this, but they are rare indeed.

    I believe that like a previous poster that God wants Americans to see that the majority of Americans have turned away from him and we are now being tested "big time" and the masses still have their heads in the sand !!!! WAKE UP AMERICANS !! WAKE UP !!

  • Jack Killough

    I agree with your conclusions. I am a retired cop, now college professor, and my experience in a para-military organization supports the idea that, properly indoctrinated the police and military will "just follow orders." I have also speculated since BHO was first elected that he would crash the economy and seize supreme power. I mourn for my son who will grow up in a communist dictatorship.

  • dranalog

    That this is even being discussed is scary as hell. How did we ever arrive at this point? I'm an old guy and a veteran, I have a hard time believing that people now serving would fire on civilians, but on the other hand, I don't know what it is that our military is being trained for.

    • Patriot

      All men have fears, but the Brave put down their fears and go forward. Sometimes to Death, but always to Victory.

  • leatherneck101

    The one thing that everyone keeps forgetting about is the fifth column in America. Comprised of Veterans and people not indoctrinated by large population centers controlled by the liberal/communists and are very familiar with guerrilla warfare of stretegic as well as tactical advantages over any constitutional usurpers. We also have the technical expertise to match anything these cretins do because guess what? most of us know how they work and how to disable them. So let them bring their black helicopters and black armies. Let them finally see what destruction their rhetoric brings to themselves. In the end pookie and his minions will find out what Americans are really made of.

  • noelle2013

    this is bullsh$%!
    our military SHOULD NEVER FIRE ON AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    it is time for a Massive REVOLT!

  • http://twitter.com/fruitefly john p birckhead

    #1 There are fifty states that would put his ass down in a couple of days. The people without our allies would put down Washington in a big way. I am not concerned but waiting on this arrogant muslim to shoot the first American even if it is Black Panther. They are still Americans. Kill just one will bring a call to arms.

    • Patriot

      Obama should learn not to poke a stick in a hornet's nest. He might not like what he gets in return!

  • Nikita63

    Hopefully, NO enlisted personnel will follow the orders odf career officers who took the same basic oath to fdefend and uphold the constituion if they prefer instead to choose to follow the orders of a never vetted and fraudulent president. The handwriting has been on the wall since prior to the election of 2008 and has continued to worsen ever since. Congress is also by its silence and disappearance of obligation to act as a check and balance on the power of the Executive, a liabiity not a defender.. Do not look for help from these criminally complicit cowards. We are on our own.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

      If this story is true (a big if), and Congress does not IMMEDIATELY act to issue articles of impeachment, then only a military coup against the entire government will save us.

      • Dave

        A coup may have to happen. Look at who's in charge of Congress. Think Boehner's going to start impeachment on Ubama? And even by some miracle Boehner grew a pair, impeachments are tried in the Senate...and look who's in charge there. In other words, an impeachment would go nowhere.
        Hopefully it won't have to come to that(coup). We HAVE to get the Senate away from the D-Rats and get rid of the linguine spined Rs in both houses. Then, this would be dictator can be reeled in.

  • noelle2013

    IMPEACH SOTERO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/GoldbergAllen Allen Goldberg

    Why did the U.S. Government purchase 1.6 Billion hollow point rounds???

  • http://twitter.com/johnnyangel10 JohnnyAngel Advocacy

    I never say never when it comes to any politician, but I also do not go overboard on what might be. If I did,I would have put all my money in those stocks that will save your fortune when the BIG ONE hits. Well, the really end all, be all never came. How about the Y2 2000 calendar change disaster? I could go on , but you get what I'm saying. This is the ultimate end of the world type stuff that would happen in a third world country and not here. There are too many gun-owning patriots still alive. Another 10 years,could be!!??

  • http://twitter.com/Opar5 Conrad C Gabbard

    And who, pray tell, will be first in line to lead the regenerated nuclear powered, 57+ nation Islamic Caliphate that Muslims around the world are increasingly calling for? And what will that do to the looney left's causes that Obama is using to divide and destroy us?

  • Patriot Games

    The true agenda has been revealed, as far as I'm concerned.

    Our government is the enemy

  • http://wahrheitmacher.blogspot.com/ Most Rev. Gregori

    We need those former military leaders to join together and lead the American citizens in a revolt against this corrupt, immoral, evil and illegal government. They are our last hope.

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  • Oops!

    da Tagliare is one of the most hate-driven, despicable liars in this country, and this outrageous article is further proof of it. He is a traitor, a seditionist, and a coward of immense proportions. If he continues to avoid seeking help for his otherwise terminal disease of Obama Derangement Syndrome, he should leave the country and join the Taliban.

  • gail drake

    people have been telling me that they think he is antichrist; i disagreed in the beginning. Now i am not so sure. my town in ct telling us to give up our guns voluntarily i refused; but i am torn because of my Christianity. if they make it a law i am to obey laws of man , unless they tell me i cannot speak of God or practice my religion. No matter how tyrannical this government gets, this is very difficult for me.

    • Patriot

      Stand tall and strong. Have faith. The liberals tell us that Jesus was a liberal. Don't believe it. If I'm not mistaken wasn't there something said about selling your garment if you didn't have a sword and buy one?

  • http://www.facebook.com/craig.mayberry.1 Craig Mayberry

    Let's get it on. I'm ready except for one thing I'm retired and out of shape. I have everything else I need though. If you live in the Albuquerque New Mexico area and want to discuss this development go to my facebook page and leave your info I'll call you.

  • howard weatherly

    All this means is that if force is used, the head off of the chicken must be disconnected from the body, then convince the body to use common sense! I personaly like the idea of passive resistance in numbers so great that we colapse the opositions ability to contain us. That said, I have heard that this question has been asked to new recruits for a few years now so we are up against one hell of an oponent. Either way we must take our lead from the 18 patriots that died at Concord bridge and let the enemy fire the first volly.

  • giant33

    A class of 18 to 24 year olds just graduated from a special class to be in a special unit for homeland secutity with millltary super armament and equipment. The first of many graduations, I think cassified them into fema, They remind me of hilters brownshirts. I don't thing they would have any problems taken out us citizens.They would have to go to the burbs to find us citizens,their are not many in the cities.

  • http://www.facebook.com/PacnurseLNC Gerald Hallman

    There those of us that were not able to serve in the military, but we will join with other patriots to defend ourselves from a political meglomaniac that wants to usurp the Constitution. I know several nurses like me that can care for our wounded and make some wounded of the oppressors. As an old retired army nurse told me once, we know how to heal and we know how to kill. Make me mad and I'll show you what mood I'm in

  • catman

    Don't turn your backsl on this pos

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1254545548 Jim Greaves

    I have only one quibble with what Screeminmeeme says: I do not consider the fascist in the White House, nor his running dogs, to be "my" government. My government is the one I elect locally and at the State level. The foreign occupiers in Washington DC (hawaiian and otherwise) can all go back to where they came from. Some believe it is Hell and that they are Satan's minions. I would concur if I held the same religious convictions... Good versus evil. That is where we are today, and it matters not a whit what we call the two sides. Good must win, or even those who support evil WILL suffer, as Neimoeller said. So, the point is, we need to convince the stupid who vote for these tyrants the error of their ways. The only way? Show them photos of Stalin's dead, Hitler's dead, macheted corpses in Africa... Wounded knee comes to mind as another example of what happens to disarmed, thus helpless folks, and we can but wonder what would have been the fate of millions of interned Japanese fellow-citizens had the war not gone the way it did............

  • Optinetgroup

    Interesting how the ABC show "Last Resort" was quickly cancelled!!! I fear that there is much truth in the premise and it could not be allowed to survive.

  • thestormy

    i have said for years that illegals coming to America are not here for the jobs. They are here to destroy America. Maybe not all,but the majority. The fed. gov. puts illegals in our military allowing them to become citizens after 2 yrs. These are the people who will be willing to murder Americans.Since bho took office,he & napolitano have not recorded OTM's,other than mexicans,so we have no idea how many people are here from terrorist nations or who they are or where they are. That is an intentional move on the part of our government.I am not being political on this as g.w. bush allowed illegals into the military as well. That's why I call it a gov. action. The NWO people are getting scared because America has caught onto their plan & fear that we may get ahead of them & stop it. They have to take our guns or murder us in the streets. It matters not to them how it is done,just that it is done. Many Patriots will die,but God willing,we will win!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5WOSGJIZY4V2RLSSEIWEQB37GE mochimama

    I have always been a huge supporter of our military, BUT now I realize their demographics must be nearly the same as the ones who re-elected this joke of a president. wonder how many of us will stand for the Constitution, no matter what is aimed at our heads??

  • http://twitter.com/JCarlB John B.

    Create "cells" with your patriot friends. Communicate face to face only. Train as much as you can without arousing suspicion. Make sure you have plenty of ammo. OBEY all lawful and constitutional laws and regulations. REMEMBER, your oath was to support and defend the CONSTITUTION of the United States from ALL enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC. There will come a time for those of us who have the will to rise up and face those who would put us in chains. We need to be willing to die for our freedoms. I wonder if the liberals are willing to die trying to take them away? (I'm old but still willing to do whatever needs to be done. Ret. Navy CPO)

    • Patriot

      Good advice!

      "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." – Thomas Jefferson

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Rogers/1316988102 William Rogers

    UN troops are their fall-back plan.

  • Harvieux

    It is very, very important for all to consider supporting the organization named Oath Keepers at: http://www.oathkeepers.org. Remember, it is our solemn duty to do everything humanly possible in attempt to avert the "LAST RESORT". It is also extremely important that we solicit our county Sheriff's to immediately assemble qualified and experienced posse members to protect the people from the local level right along with the people. Yes, we must continue to remind the ones with the guns that they swore to an oath to defend the Constitution and that subscribed oath of office is considered a specialty contract. It really is that simple, folks! 😉

  • http://www.facebook.com/bobby.g.gibson.1 Bobby Gerald Gibson

    Locate and capture the storage building where o has placed the billions of rounds of hollow point ammunition. Disarm o first.

  • W_R_Monger

    We, the Veterans of America's military ARE the Oathkeepers! Berry is not! He took an Oath to protect and serve the Constitution and the people of The United States, he has done neither... He is an Oath breaker... His words are Taqqiya...

  • chvietvet

    Using the American armed forces against Americans is a violation of the posse commutatus act and has been for well over 100 years. But what does that matter. Almost every God-given right enumerated in the Bill of Rights is being systematically violated by our government. Just try to sue the government about it. The judges will deny you your Seventh Amendment right to trial by jury.

  • Jed54

    Hell is already here.......

  • http://www.facebook.com/raymond.mars.9 Raymond Mars

    If he insists on doing that, all officers seen by patriots can and will be considered traitors and treated as the same... Treason is a hanging offense after all and any military officer who issues orders to fire on any citizens has by that order committed treason...

    • John Mescas

      The only reason the military will fire at you is if citizens start firing at them (which many here have promised to do) .. I for one will totally encourage the military to wiping you off the face of the planet if any of you takes one shot at them.

  • Brendajanetorres

    Pray that our Military have a conscience when it comes between the people and the Government....What WILL be left is their own future and the future of their household! Their choice....Government or American Citizens?

  • oxnin

    America can stop it as a heart beat!!! Assemble, blow away any one who stands in the way, and take back our AMERICA.....

  • Chann Charlie

    I am a medical retired American Marine and I will not stand for the Military shooting at us and I believe they will come to our side in the end. Remember when Russia changed and Boris Yelton ( forgive me if I spelled his name wrong) some of the Military took his side and stood against the rest of the military and we all know it worked so we should consider this for our self, Lets hope and pray the Military will be the wiser and help us defeat Obama for he is destroying our great country and if we do not put a stop to him, he will bring us all down just like Hitler, Benito, world war two Russian ass hole, and Chinese Mao, all who are for no guns, raise your right hand. If you check this out you will see Hitler and the others raided their hands after they took all the guns away, Obama is doing this and he says it is for the Children, well hell bells, he is a lair, he is using the children to weaken us in the choice we make making us look like we are anti Children, Lair lair your pants are on fire. IMPEACH HIS ASS AND JAIL HIM FOR HIS VIOLATIONS OF OUR Constitution.

  • nancis

    Because the troops are made up of more blacks and Mexicans they will go with Obama.

  • johnh

    I don't think they would have the man power to be effective. Some of us may die, but this day of communication they can't deal with the numbers they will have to deal with. They will also wake up some of the sheepel, who will see the sun for the first time in a long time. Don't know how much you can trust the sheepel, so watch your back side.

    • FreedomFray

      "this day of communication"? The National Defense Authorization Act gives Obummer the power to seize all communications systems, public or private. Say "bye-bye" to the Internet and cell phones.

  • jagans

    This may be the dumbest thing this guy has said yet. What an A Hole.

  • DockyWocky

    While he might think he's training our military to shoot us civilians, that kind of stuff just insures that he and Mooch are going to get the Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu treatment.

    I expect Obama is deathly afraid of anyone who even looks military. Any American officer that orders his boys to shoot civilians is also in for a surprise.

  • Malechi

    Those of us who served took an oath to serve and protect the United States from enemies foreign and domestic. That oath did not terminate when we left our posts!!!

  • rcaston

    As a former Air Force pilot let me go on record now that I will honor my oath and "“I, Richard D Caston Jr, having been appointed a Captain in the United States Air Force, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foriegn and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the office upon which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

      Yes, and it's important to understand what "defending the Constitution" really means. The Constitution is mostly a blueprint for how the federal government was to be structured. Are you defending that? No. What you are actually defending is the Bill of Rights, those 10 AMENDMENTS to the Constitution that they stuck together at the last minute almost as an afterthought. You can look them all up, they are very simple and easy to read. What they all basically boil down to is what is stated in the Declaration of Independence - that all humans are endowed by their Creator with the fundamental right to life, liberty, and property, and that any government which attempts to take any of these rights away is acting outside the boundaries imposed on it by the Constitution, and is therefore acting outside of the law and needs to be stripped of its ability to govern. The sooner the better, I might add.

  • Liberty Freedom




  • http://twitter.com/angel13wowings Faye Shamblin

    Sure he wants rid of the Americans that don't agree with his rotten lies stealing killing is his middle name he is a muslim and they are all murderers they will kill thier own family
    Obama is trash good for nothing but destruction with his lies and he is destroying America I don't know why the people that have lived here in a free country wants some trash like him destroy every thing our forefathers built for us true Americans not rear kissers to Obama or would even vote for this slime trash so get rid of him NOW

  • rafaelito7

    Anyone with a
    little common sense would suspect treason when this president has the gull to
    pose this question to his generals or military officers. Why ask? Does he have a plan? Does he think they are that stupid? I honestly dont believe that Romney would act this way. He may have not been so cool or that atractive, but he is a real patriot that loves this country more that O-vomit does. Just look and see what he's trying to do.
    Where are the lawmakers that are supposed to be the watchmen on the walls, protecting us,and our constitution? This question should be presented to everyone serving in our armed forces by every wife, son, brother, mother, father, uncle, grandpa, grandma, should ask those serving if, they will shoot upon those very Americans that so many of their
    companions, friends, and family members gave their blood to defend. El
    Presidente O-vomit, is presently preparing to launch an all out assault on the
    American people and he wants to know who is standing with him. Your neighborhood
    government rat may already have been given orders to standby and wait for the
    command to strike. Its that old Chicago Slumdog mobster way to make sure that the boys come to the party. I say Impeachment for treason is imperative, and should be done immediately. He’s playing his last hand at the table, and the stakes are high which involves our lives, our families, and generations to come.
    Those who voted for this traitor were only looking out for nothing other than themselves, trying to see “what’s in it for me”. They where not even thinking about their own families. They got what they deserve, we dont have to take it. They seem to love his lies, and can’t see that everybody has been lied to. Only the rich weresupposed to be taxed. These idiots were HOSED. All of us making under 40K looked at our January pay stubs to find less income and more taxes. Lies, lies, lies…. Time for another Revolution.

    • John Mescas

      "Time for another Revolution."

      Bring it on. Fire one shot at the military and see how long they wait before making your former residence a 500 ft crater.

      • rafaelito7

        So are you scared about something, like losing your life, or your house, or are you one of those who is all about "whats in it for me" The loss of life for the freedoms that we still have was paid with blood John. Direct your question to one who has lost a loved one under our flag. It be interesting what they'd have to say to you....

  • R Stone

    They are having a lot of practice in taking out local resistance and patriots. Iraq, Libya, Syria. America will be the same... using mercenaries. Those mercenaries are being let into the country now. You will have to begin organizing and preparing your neighborhoods for the propaganda coming and the attacks to pick off one by one, before their onslaught

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Randy-Cote/1365006023 Randy Cote

    I believe obama may want to know which military members will fire on us people but it is the troops that will be the real test not the leaders. one jr officer next to his commander and one bullet to the head will stop him ordering his troops to kill us. I really want to believe our troops are more loyal to us then that. as a tech sgt for 13 years

  • TheTexasCooke

    "Dr. Garrow is not known for being a wild crackpot or part of the political fringe...."
    Well he is now....

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1261917960 Michael Williams

    This all part of Obama and the Communist/Muslims plan to destroy American. Obama is using the same plan, down to the letter, that Hitlers used to take over the German People in the 1930's...!!!! Prepare, blood of Americans will RUN RED IN THE STREETS...!!! We the People are about to be murdered by the MILLIONS...Geneside is just around the corner...!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

      Wrong! It's the same plan that LENIN and TROTSKY (and later Stalin) used in the USSR, under the Bolshevik Communists! Those were the savage goons that Hitler tried to save Europe from! They went on to murder at least 60 million Christians in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. But you didn't read about that in high school.

      I'm really getting positively ill from all of the Marxist brainwashing everybody here seems to suffer from. You have no idea how uninformed you are about 20th-century world history.

      • Edward53

        It kind of sounds like you are sticking up for Adolph Hitler and the Nazi's, Stephen. I know my world history well and I do know that Hitler's goal was not to save Europe from the Russians it was for absolute power and world domination. So it sounds like you are not very well informed about 20th century history. You need to get away from those Paulbots and skinheads, Stephen. They're warping your brain.

    • Patriot

      Not if someone takes him out fist!

  • DEfromDC

    Where is the part on the detainment camps HUD built for Homeland Security in West Virginia? How do they fit into the picture? He is following Mein Kampf and that makes them very concerning. I understand some rough well armed guards are keeping people away.

  • Gary Janes

    I think it's time we realize that it is not our government anymore. It does not represent the American people, it has become something so contrary to our American way of life that it is unrecognizeable as OUR government. It is rapidly becoming evident that we are in the begining of a second revolution for our freedom. Now is the time for some Real leaders to stand and declare our intent to take our country back! As an old Vietnam Vet with 4 tours under my belt I am ready to stand and do whatever is necessary to regain the American way of life!!

  • Fiesty

    Best thing, ONLY thing to do right now is; keep your eyes and ears open, and stockpile your defenses . Be prepared! But keep a level head.

    • Patriot

      People just need to carefully read the 2nd amendment and go through the Federalist Papers and they will know all they need to know.

  • Dustin

    What cracks me up is how your average peace loving lib would like to see gun owners and NRA members killed. I wonder how they would achieve this task? Maybe with sheer boredom of their rhetoric?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Smith/664886615 Stephen Smith

      They'll use fully automatic assault weapons. They only guns they don't like are the ones that aren't in their hands.

    • Patriot

      What cracks me up is that they seem to think they are immune! :)

  • Jude O'Connor

    When the POTUS can do this and the other 2/3 rds of the Govt. remains mum all is already lost. We have a fraud in the White House with a proven bogus cert. of birth, bogus SS card from Connecticut and a bogus draft card, goes around Congress and lies to the USA. We're in the toilet already.

  • underthewire

    The military wont' have a chance. And Obama will be the first to be taken out. Be careful what one asks for! The pen isn't mightier than the sword..............not even close.

    • Patriot

      Hey, underthewire. The pen is mightier than the sword. Unfortunately those holding the pen are in Obama's camp! Otherwise that Muslim Racist Camel Jockey would have been run through with that pen already! :) There is another old saying; power belongs to he who controls the printing press!

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.hallett.31 Michael Hallett

    He may have the Generals whom will give the orders. I know that he doesn't have the troops!

  • TAM44

    There are over eighty million gun owners in this country statistics courtesy of FBI and more people are buy guns as I type. God bless them for having the sense to know what happens to unarmed citizens.

    1929 until 1953 the Soviet Union established gun control, from 1029 until 1953babout 20 million dissidents unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Turkey done this from 1915 until 1917 killing 1.5 million Armenians unable to defeand themselves.

    Germany did the same from 1938 and from 1939 until 1945 13 million Jews and others were rounded up and being unable to defend themselves and exterminated.

    China gun control in 1935. from 1948 to 1952 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

    Guatemala 1964 to 1981 100,000 unable to defend themselves rounded up and exterminated.

    Uganda 1971 until 1979 killed 300,000 thousand Christians unable to defend themselves.

    Cambodia gun control 1956. from 1975 until 1977 one million educated people, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

    People rounded up and exterminated in the 20th century because of gun control: 56 million.

    Switzerland issues every household a gun! Switzerland's Government train ever adult they issue a rifle.

    Switzerland has the lowest gun related crime rate of any civilize country in the world!!!

    It's a no brainer! don't let our government waste millions of our tax dollars in an effort to make law abiding citizens an easy target.

    Keep America safe and your family never give up your guns and become unable to defend yourselves and be exterminated by the government.

  • DouglasDauntless

    Obama has his own private Army, he is training and arming with the automatic rifles money can buy, our money, tax dollars, they will swear allegiance to Obama and only Obama. On the streets of the USA their are more Gang Bangers then in the whole of the Armed Forces combined, and this is not counting his Muslims who have training camps all over the USA, five in NY State alone, these are his Arum and they are being trained to kill us. the white American citizen because we are the only threat to Obama becoming the Ruler of the USA, Canada Mexico, Pan America and south America. The whole western world. Obama before his four years as President is up will call for his Presidency for life. His think tank is figuring it out right now when will be the best time to act. Our armed fores will soon be turned over to the UN.

  • Joel Carson

    The bullets they are stocking up on are for the most part handgun calibers . They must be planning on doing alot of inside the city/town work . Back off find your ambush area .Identify the leaders and take them out first from as long a distance as you can manage . When you don't have a human target begin destroying vehicles and communication devices . Radiators , Fuel tanks , Steering wheels etc anything that is needed for the vehicle to be used . Shoot to wound not to kill . Most arteries are not protected by body armor get to know human anatomy . Eyes are good targets .

    • Patriot

      Cost Obama a lot more to heal the wounded where the dead will probably be buried in trenches. Drain their resources and resolve. Death by a thousand cuts.

  • Nathan51

    This piece of Kenyan garbage looks more like the second coming of Hitler every day. May he and his rot in Hell!

    • Cairan

      Hey MORON - Obama and the Jews that put him in office is what Hitler warned against.

      • Edward53

        Another Paulbot?

      • Nathan51

        As you say "moron", looks like you have your head so far up king bo's posterior if he stops quick he will break your neck! Hope you like the view and smell from brown town "moron". By the way, if you would actually bother to read a history book (assuming a knuckle dragging Neanderthal like you can actually read) you would find that everything king bo is doing is right out of Hitler's play book.

  • CommonSense

    Nothing is going to happen to BHO. He is in it to win it, for good. There is no stopping him. Who's going to do it? All I hear and have heard is a lot of chatter and no action. Fluff!

    • Patriot

      Hey there Common Sense, aren't you getting the memos? I have observed you have been missing many of the meetings!

      • CommonSense

        I have faith in God, not man. A very close friend works in a 'facility' that manages drones and I can assure that absolutely nothing going on escapes the all-watching eyes of the gov't. Even to a few feet below the surface, movement is seen by the drones. I am all for bringing the USA back to much better times of Conservatism, but remember that you can't rely on the 51% who voted BHO into of, and many of them have guns to defend the 'takers'. In the Revolution less than 25% of the folks supported the war. I would just not 'assume' that all of the folks who have guns, criminals included, would support the Right.

  • Keith Freedomlover

    We may be too evil as a nation and deserve the judgments that may come upon us. I pray there are enough righteous that this nation be preserved.

  • DEfromDC

    I've been suggesting that the 2nd amendment protects individual rights to bear arms not federal officers. Couldn't states confiscate any federal weapons within their boundaries to protect their citizens including any arms issues to federal officers/personnel coming into the state to enforce gun control. Weapons on military facilities should also be impounded and held for the "militia" of the state. A thought!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=516711224 Vic Bailey

    The Commandant of the US Marines, General James F. Amos should take the Marines to Washington and RELIEVE Bama of his position that he is NOT qualified to hold, then put him in Leavenworth, Kansas to hold for trial and execution! Before Bama kills any more American Citizens! Cause we ALL can see the writing on the walls! Semper Fi.

  • SpendusMaximus

    Lock and load assholes! No doubt that some military would be willing to fire on civilians but I can pretty much believe that those that they fired upon would be more than willing to fire back to protect their families, country, and constitution.

  • http://www.facebook.com/carol.small.31 Carol Small

    I AM SICK OVER THIS ARTICLE. But not at all surprised, I have been stating all of this for years now, declaring that this ass would be our last "elected" president. He will have destroyed this country by the end of the next four years and will then declare himself supreme leader. Why do you think that his marxist wife immediately went to get close to all wounded warriors. These two people were raised as anti american haters and from elementary school through college they hated the armed forces of this free country. Now because we have let the left and the right give away the ship to more people than they don't give it to, we are stuck with this horrible horrible situation. I AM ABSOLUTELY SICK AND WANT TO CRY. Through the last four years, with all I have been saying everyone looks at me like a wacko moron. I hope this all never happens and all of my detractors are proven right. I would gladly sacrifice my dignity and accept the title wacko moron to see this country and its people survive. Time to stop paying for those mini computers our kids call cell phones and get their damn noses into what is happening really happening in this country. Or they will become the same useful idiots it appears we have all become.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rob.wolf.315 Rob Wolf

    It should be self explanatory.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.whipple.7 Jeffrey Whipple

    Remember our legal conclusion at Nuremberg . If an officer know that an order is illegal he is personally responsible. And the US Army cannot be used in the US without Congressional approval. When it come down to pulling the trigger this is murder and every one that give that gives that order can be tried for murder. They had better pray that Obama wins this fight. Remember all of the new ex-military that will have been added to the 300 million guns already in the country.
    Really don't think it is going to happen.

  • voncile fullwood

    may be why he wants our guns to give to his Muslim brothers they would be the only one's who would be willing to kill American's

    • Conservativesniper

      Oh, I'd be willing to bet that the 35 training camps in this country for muslims are prettyb well stocked.

  • disqus_auPaVWHnbB

    Early during the first Obama reign suggestion became prevalent that this president will prove in time to be the biblical Great Tribulation antichrist. We thought it then to be an extreme assessment. It would be premature to positively identify him as that anticipated dreaded character. Still, we do know that the antichrist will sweetly succumb the majority and take total control over world military, disarming citizens, shuffling arms to enemies of freedom and rendering the citizenry to total dependency on him. This and more recently uncovered characteristics of Dictator Obama leave us contemplating. beachfactor@yahoo.com

  • ijohnc1

    All of us that believe in God and America must resist this anti Christ muslim and his minions.
    We that have that belief should fight to protect our God given Freedom, if not we will be enslaved.
    "Fear not tho the enemy deride, fear not tfor the Lord is on our side, heed not what the wicked may say, for the Lord, the Lord we will obey".......Christian hynm
    We may be at that time in history that we take our stand in a thoughtful way to defeat the new generation of Sodomites.
    God Bless America

  • Cliff Lindsay

    Secular Humanist Obama gave 750 MILLION

  • silvercity18

    Why can't we arrest this treasonous identity thief? What is the rule of law if it is not followed? Harry Bounel had his SS# stolen by this muslem trojan horse.

    • Patriot

      In the absence of the Rule of Law, we are left with anarchy!

    • Patriot

      Looks like it was stolen by Obama's Aunt who worked for SS Admin and had access to those records of the deceased who never collected their SS.

  • Cliff Lindsay

    TRY again, -- Secular Humanist Obama gave 750 million rounds of hollow point bullets to Homeland Security. We are now going to find out what it was for,keep your power dry.

  • Doc

    There are more of us than there are of them.

  • souper

    I am a vet and I never thought I would be concerned about our military troops firing on US citizens. Until LA and the Kitrina mess. Our young troops assisted in disarming the citizens of that area thinking they were doing a good thing (duty). The local gov'nmt wanted a gun free zone so they used our troops to go house to house disarming citizen's intent on protecting property and thier very lives. The young soldiers are devoid of the meaning of the 2nd ammendment. They have not been properly taught by our education system. They have been indoctrinated not educated, they know group think not individualism. They will do what they are programmed to do. Alas I weep for my country. It has been turned over to those who wish to destroy what it was meant to be: FREE!

  • Doug Hensley

    You will find that your predictions do not come true. The reasoning behind them departs from reality at too many points. Just one simple example: even a dictator needs allies. No one man can guard his own bed at night. Those allies need to be paid off. Where is the money for that to come from, if he crashes the economy?

  • NM Leon

    The country club generals appointed by Obama might give the orders, but the real warriors under them wouldn't carry them out.

    Ordering the military to shoot Americans would result in mass mutiny.

    • Patriot

      Let's hope that that black vein Colon Powell will be among the first.
      He's already identified himself unfit to serve and he has already betrayed
      his country and party!

    • http://twitter.com/Rapture_Me Nelson Swiger Jr.

      I am sure the people of Germany would have never thought the German military could carry out the genocide that they did. A university a few years back showed that people could easily turn on their friends and neighbors and follow orders without asking questions.

      • NM Leon

        True, but irrelevant. Americans are culturally different than Germans (I lived there for 5 years). Where Germans are conditioned from birth to follow orders, stay in line, and conform, Americans are (still) independent spirited.

        Back in the late '90s I lived in Cheyenne. A good friend of mine, an E-8 at F.E.Warren AFB told me of a directive sent down from the Pentagon (Clinton's generals) that ordered unit commanders and senior NCOs to develop local plans to confiscate weapons. They refused. And someone told the press. And Pentagon spokesman Ken Bacon had to respond saying the pentagon had contingency plans for everything and it was nothing to worry about.

        More recently I spent 3 years in Iraq and can not imagine any of the rank and file warriors that were there turning on law abiding Americans. They take an oath to defend the Constitution, and like the military under Clinton, they take that oath seriously.

  • sgtshel

    Form it up..............

  • danclamage

    There will be millions of armed Americans to overthrow a Communist dictator. There will be massive defections from the volunteer military who swore to uphold the Constitution, and defend it from all threats, even those emanating from the White House.

  • franko35758

    " we the people" will stand up and defend this once great country again!!!
    Obama and his "TRAITORS" will NOT win!!
    old sarge,'nam vet,'68,'70

  • JimmyFreedom

    I hope a few Marines step up and do what needs to be done in the very near future.

  • http://www.facebook.com/luvzforplay Jerry Mann

    No wonder this idiot wants protection for the rest of his life !!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/Terry5910 Terry Whitehead

    what I can't. understand is the morons that voted for the Muslim

  • Jumper82

    We have a cancer growing in this country and when the war comes it needs to be cut out completely. You cant just remove part of it or it will grow again.

  • vicki

    If you have not already please join oathkeepers.org

    And you can also tell everyone you know that

    ~300 MILLION Americans did not shoot anyone and we are tired of being punished for it.

    Ask them to tell government to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the acts of a few

    Tell government to STOP IT


  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1315515107 Alan Smith

    Obamas solgers? Newly legalaized mexicans, People in prisons releast early for this spaciffic task. Chinese millatery Possibley? Your local PD and sheriff maybe. There are alot of people willing to take on rolls of inforcers

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1315515107 Alan Smith

    There must be an equal or greater number of citizens willing to pull the trigger. Are you one?

  • sgtshel

    Form it up America!...............

  • http://www.survivingurbancrisis.com/ Silas Longshot

    For this idea to be effective for king zero, he'll have to 'test' every level of authority from 5 star general to platoon commander. There are enough oath keepers to make this very difficult for king zero. And even assuming he 'did' get full cooperation to fire on citizens, they're outnumbered 100 to one and a high percentage of OUR group are well trained ex-military. Maybe they're a little fatter than they used to be, but the skills are still remembered.
    Oh, and one last little detail.....there's over 20 million 'registered' hunters in this nation, who are decent enough shot to bag game animals, which would give them fair sniper skills. Does this criminal 'army' want to come up against 20 million snipers?

  • mas1az

    I don't believe all this article, yet I can believe parts of it. If I were in the military and an officer, my duty, should this be true would be to share this truth with all the media including FOX and start gathering others who are being removed also for the same reason.
    The left is radical as is many of you who are on the far right. Yet for those of us in the center, Obama and this government has no way of controlling such a large dismissal of personnel who would not shoot on US citizens and yet only keep those in who would.
    Such a litmus test would be all over the news on at least Fox network, and conservative radio stations. Haven't heard a thing yet, except for this article.
    Not all nut cases are far left liberalism and I can't stand liberals or their thinking. Yet, the scale can also tip in the other direction. Need more proof than just this one article. God bless

    • strojan

      Seriously, are you kidding. I have spent 30 years in the military. I was forced to retire in 2010 because I was hurt on my last deployment in Iraq. The news media is controlled by Obama. They worship him. Who exactly would listen. The military is not political. We are not allowed to get involved in political activities. Doing so would be the kiss of death and the end of your career and all the retirement benefits you have deployed a lifetime and sacrificed a lifetime for. Remember it isn't just you that you are destroying it is also your family. So while no one will listen the military will prosecute you and discharge you without a penny and you have gotten no where. He has murdered more military personnel in combat zones by taking their live ammo away and giving live ammo to the Afghani's. Setting SOF forces up to be killed in mass. The whole thing makes me sick. There can be no resistance from a dead Soldier, Sailor, or Marine. His FEMA Corps will augment the troops that will shoot and kill Americans. We must take our country back but those of us that are war college trained must escape now because they will kill us all. We will be back to help lead militias but if we are all dead there will be no leaders.

      • mas1az

        Strojan, then I finally know why I was kicked out of the service after a year and a half; They discharged me with an honorable discharge because they said I was unadaptable to military life. Which simply means, I'm a self-thinker and don't care for authority, yet only respect authority that respects me. I'm not a robot, thus what you are saying, because of money and money alone, many give up being human to belong to an organization that is afraid to think or react and only know how to follow orders blindly. It's like a religion except they are taught to kill senselessly and just because it's an order they do it for country and money.
        Then I guess Jackie Chan was right when he went back to China and made the statement that "America is the most corrupt country in the world."
        I do believe the media is bought, including Fox Network. Always knew that before Obama won the first time. Doesn't say much for Christianity does it? What's coming there is no bullet or bomb big enough to stop it and when it's done and over, the meek shall inherit the earth. And the worldly care not and believe even less. Not talking religions or military. It's a power even you don't know or others like you who are part of this world and know not the power of the true God, the Father.
        All who offend him shall be removed within the blink of an eye, and the meek shall inherit the earth. And I'm not talking Obama or any Jesus or prophet of any kind of religion.
        Yet, you call me a fool as many like you only know this world which you love more than truth and will never overcome as you fear all and hate even more, all for money and patriotism which is also a religion of it's own making, that's part of this world we live on, called Hell.

  • /.murphy

    Nonsense. The litmus test is whether the top brass can understand the language spoken by the fuzzy pink-and-green aliens whom Obama keeps at Area 51. And I heard that from a former top military official, so you can believe its veracity. Bad times are coming. Obama plans to release his alien allies on the population just before his term is up, causing major havoc and confusion across the US. The aliens have a voracious appetite for writing instruments of all kinds--No. 2 pencils, ball-points, even washable and indelible markers--so they will be going house-to-house in search of those items. When all the writing instruments have been consumed, Obama's alien allies are coming after our guitars--that's the next favorite thing on their menu. Again, I heard this from a former senior official, so you should believe it. You'd better start praying, I think. We just can't trust these black/white Hawaiian Kenyan Muslim gay Christian Socialist Atheist Communist Democratic dictators!
    (Did I miss anything, loonies?)

    • Obummer

      Yes, you missed the part about you fleeing the country to save yourself so we don't have to waste the bullet.

      • /.murphy

        Ha! What bullet? You're not going to have any because you people can't think of any creative way to keep guns out of the wrong hands, and the gun-control advocates are going to figure it out for you while you sit there and continue to whine and cry like imbeciles. Now is your opportunity. If your guns are as important to you as all you rootin' tootin' gunslingers say they are, you'd better come up with something sellable to the growing portion of Americans who are fed up with you.

        • Obummer

          Gun grabbing, liberal progressives will never get the 300 million guns from those of us that legally own them. You morons can't even figure out how to use simple math to balance the budget in over 6 years or deport 20 million illegal wetbacks so I'm not worried that the government has either the will or the fortitude to knock on my door in an attempt to confiscate my guns just to find themselves staring down a barrel. Additionally, if you knew anything about the constitution and it's protections, you would know the problems associated with Olamo's gun grab and how ineffective in stopping any gun violence any of the laws they are currently talking about right now but I don't really expect that much from people like you.

          You probably don't realize, but all the shooters (as well as their families) that committed the atrocities with guns in the last 15 years or so starting at Ft, Hood, Columbine, Vtech, Colorado Theater, CT & Giffords shooter, were all registered democrats. Furthermore, 90% of the gun violence in America occurs in the inner Cities and we all know what party the blacks and mexicants are registered as. Considering this information, you would reduce gun violence to an almost negligible amount if you were to just make it illegal for you progressive liberal democratic weenies to own guns, hell you and your liberal buddies probably wouldn't know how to use one or care to own one anyway so no loss, right. Us conservatives and constitutionalists don't need the support of the mindless electorate who think so irrationally, we have the 2nd and our guns and if you want mine, you can have them one bullet at a time.

        • /.murphy

          LOL! I own several guns. I don't want them to be taken away, either, but people like me worry about mouthy, unthinking gunslingers like yourself effing it up for the rest of us. Your past behavior is the best predictor of your future behavior, and you people just squandered the last four years spreading preposterous lies about the President, instead of putting together a set of reasoned, compelling, and sellable arguments against him. So that's why I don't trust what you buffoons have to say.

        • Obummer

          Unthinking Gunslinger ? Mouthy ? Where do you get that from and how in the world are people like me "effing" your gun rights up. You make no sense at all and I'm beginning to detect a troll. Those of us on the right have been putting out compelling arguments against this moron in the Presidential Oval Office since he started running for office in 2007 but morons like you and all the others that want free Obama phones, welfare money and extended unemployment benefits, etc just continue to vote for this guy who can't spend or tax enough not to mention completely trampling on the constitution. Oblamo takes the prize from Carter as the worst President to serve office yet. You see the real problem is not that the right is not effective in getting out their message, it's that the left is not intelligent enough to understand it. Talk about squandering the last for yours, what has your moron in chief accomplished besides burdening the country with more debt than all past Presidents combined before him. Oh yea, there's Oblamocare that needed to be passed in order to find out what was in it, per your second in third in command, Pukelosi. With that crew on the left, you actually question trusting the right ? WOW, you are truly clueless.

        • /.murphy

          ...and another thing: "us Conservatives?" What?! You're no Conservative. Your writing style completely betrays you. Your writing suggests someone who is rather poorly educated. I'm not one to declare where your political home should be, but it isn't "conservative." I'm guessing "redneck idiot," but that's just me. :)

        • Obummer

          You should really stick to what you know, whatever that may be, probably hauling trash or something similar. I'm not only conservative but a constitutionalist as well. No redneck either, I'm a CA native and run a large corporation that employee's over 100 people. You on the other hand fit the profile of a troll and I wouldn't be surprised if you looked like one as well. You should go back to the huffington post where you and all your brethren can hiss and cry to each other about how mean those of us on the right are and dream about your next narrative to the American public and hope you get through to enough gullible idiots that vote. In the end you and other progressive liberals like you only serve to diminish your own rights along with everyone else.

        • /.murphy


          Gee... it's like what the President has--a skin he can't take off.

    • Edward53

      Sounds like it's time for you to get back to your crib, mama. I saw 4 or 5 black homies hanging out by your back door holding up a sign that said GANG BANG TIME. Can you all say....jiggah diggah?

      • /.murphy

        LOL! You must have been abroad during the last election. Surprised you didn't see it...

        • Edward53

          Yeah, I was. I was in Afghanistan. It's so ironic, most of the soldiers that I know hates Obama. We all think he's a Communist traitor who is destroying our country. He doesn't have very many friends in the military.

        • /.murphy

          Good for you. You''re still a minority, though.

        • /.murphy

          Communist?! Commies don't make the kind of money Obama does... And he would have nationalized the oil companies when prices spiked two years ago. A "commie" would have. FAIL.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMVD3JV5ZSMOQLYUMTRAUTHOL4 J

    Impeach, coup, legally remove him.

  • del

    Time to get this podunk out of the white house and strung up by the gonads for fraud and treason....ugh puke

  • http://www.facebook.com/shawn.oloughlin.5 Shawn O'Loughlin

    I hereby put forward the suggestion that we all on the side of the Constitution buy some of those little U.S. flags made for putting on Veterans graves and make arm bands to be worn on the right upper arm for identification purposes. Kept in the pocket at all times it can be put on at the first sign of trouble. If trouble never happens, you're only out a couple of bucks and have carried a flag in your pocket.

  • http://www.facebook.com/edward.p.cox Edward P Cox

    BO has publicly called for a civilian force under his direct control that would be more powerful than the military. This is verifiable. Sounds exactly like a modern day SS or Brown Shirts. So to try to achieve the same thing with existing forces already under his direct command is not that far fetched. Never trust a megalomaniac.

  • Sgt. York

    Count your guns boys,swab them barrels clean,keep your powder dry ,lock and load and take sharp aim. America is for Americans

  • http://starktruthwv.blog.com Tom Stark

    A study done in 1995 by a Navy officer found that 28% of marines who completed his survey would fire on citizens if ordered to do so. What is scary about that is that if and when it becomes necessary, that percentage of every unit will be pulled out to serve in the unit that is being expected to fire on civilians. The 72% that refuse will never be asked to do so. Diabolical. That is the only word for this administration.

  • Timmaei

    I agree that lately a lot of military officers are being mysteriously disgraced or removed. I warn everyone here to stop with their homophobic nazi rants. Freedom in this country has been won by many a gay soldier. Mark Bingham on United Airlines Flight 93 is just one example of an American that died heroically protecting this country. Being a conservative, constitutionalist means that you believe in personal liberty. You don't have to agree with people but you have no right to persecute them.

  • Pennell

    Well, all I can say is DUCK to all those that voted him back in..

  • http://www.facebook.com/john.bernett.1 John Bernett

    win or lose we are fuked.....dude has it in for us and has enough followers to make us tear our selves apart from within. War (major ) is coming.... whether inside the us or outside. Only way we can possibly get out of our debt. its past glossin over.

  • xoxozo

    If this is true then why don't some of them (officer's) come forward to whistleblow??? If they've been let go, they have nothing to lose and possible have a book to write if they should lose their retirement. I don't put it past Owebama...but if they would just bring it our in the open maybe something could be done>

    • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 Adam Moreira

      That is what I am thinking---especially after people have been caught making up sources. Put a name on these claims...people would be universally angry if the claim could be substantiated.

    • William Wallace

      Probably the same way that some insiders have said they were threatened to keep quiet... including threats on Chelsea Clinton and threats against members of the media who were not pro-Obama.

  • D. Guardian

    If guns are totally banned: Keep the borders open, we will need the weapons that will be coming in by the truckload. It already started.....Prohibition didn't work.....this won't either. A lot of politicians with their hands out will get richer of of gun runners, and after a few years of fighting for our second amendment rights, we win, you loose, back to square one, we keep our weapons............the end.....

  • MarryMeAnnie

    A big! A HUH.

    Saw it first with President Clinton. Getting off Air-Force one. Joking and laughing with some military General. It`s what came to mind! everyone in every area replaced with leftist types.
    Then Bush doesn't clean house and as a result leaks in the Pentagon, attacks from the CIA, Valerie Plame, FBI, more.

  • riceinwa

    I cannot believe that senior officers or mid-grade officers who were asked if they would fire on a civilian populace, said "no" and were dismissed or failed to promote would not be speaking out on this topic. I served 22 years the last 9 as a Limited Duty Officer in the USN. Had anyone asked any of us to do anything unethical and then dismissed us or failed to promote us following such a question, we would have immediately suspected it and raised cane! Senior military, no matter how liberal or conservative, are not prone to sit by while someone steps on their career...so I really doubt the validity of this claim.

    Having said that, I believe the communists at 1600 PA Avenue are stirring all kinds of poisonous mixtures of kool-aid for the sheepole (low information voters) to drink. We all have to be ever vigilant against these tyrannous bunch. I'm praying he'll overrun his headlights and commit some crime for which the bottom-feeders in both houses cannot ignore.

  • smilee

    Garbage Article, heresay based on one man with no proof and an awful lot of spin throughout.

  • LMJ40

    he may screw up the military and congress might roll over and allow him to shred the Constitution, but there are about 100 million citizen soldiers who have already decided that they will not give up their guns and will stand and fight. I think that after the first shots are fired, most in the military will realize who the true enemy is. (and yes, it will get ugly)

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  • jcgreen2

    Obama is a "domestic" enemy of our Constitution. As a Naval Officer I swore and oath to support and defend that document... and I will do that all my life. Therefore, we have a big battle on our hands against the Commander-in-Chief. And we will not surrender!

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.benton.50 William Benton

    I do not think the american military will fire on civilians

  • Majiic12

    I'll tell you one thing, the brass may pledge allegiance to the Lord of the flies, but the ones who pull the triggers will not. You would see mass defections and then it would be only a matter of time before you see heads rolling down the steps of the Capitol building. Elected officials heads.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rod.acre Rod Acre

    Tell me no one saw this coming? Our military leaders, that are left in washington, are mere puppets to potus. They will do his bidding and there are enough "sheep" to follow our corrupt military leaders that this will happen. They will fire upon us. They will storm into our homes. People will die. But hey....most of the populace voted him back into office right? What could possibly go wrong with this coward at the helm in the next 4 years?

  • Bob M

    So that's why Pannetta is going to let women fight on the front lines now. Maybe they think the women will fire on Americans and that the American men won't fire on the women. They are wrong. The gender of someone throwing punches or bullets are the inconsiquential. They have proven themselves to be the enemy of the people at that point.

  • stinkerbean

    He does Not work for the United States. He is doing everything he can to attack us and make other countries. stonger. And he has the stupid media and Dumbacrats doing his dirty work. It will hit them the hardest because they are being played and are just too high on their power to even realize it. We need to go after his cabinet and take them down one at a time. Starting with Holder and Valerie Jarrett and Axelrod. They all have communists backgrounds. Be Stong, Be Brave and Be Vigilant. Let your congress know that you are watching them closely and don't be afraid to question their every move. 2014 will be here fast enough.

  • rufiss

    id say come on bring it we ole country boys will shoot at anything that runs and ill bet theyll run when they hear the sound of bullets whizing passed there assess?

    • Tricia65

      Probably not, because it isn't going to happen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000598541388 Ben Packard

    Damn it, we are the militia, don't put it on any one else. YOU have to rise..

  • http://www.facebook.com/terry.corcoran2 Terry Corcoran

    Most of the jerks I had to serve with were racists and queers. The women were the worst. So, if there's a Civil War, bring it on. Remember to shoot the Black and Female Officers and NCOs first, then the ranks will fall apart. Few of the remaining White Male Officers and NCOs are worth a $hit. They're backstabbing Liberal trash. I'm not the only one who thinks this way. Not by a long shot. Liberals don't like guns, so they're at a GREAT disadvantage here. As for myself, I will be in the background doing nothing....

    • strojan

      My troops would never shoot me. After 30 years in the Navy I was retired because I got hurt while on deployment in Iraq. I spent my entire career taking care of my Sailors, Marines, and Soldiers. You are a racist ignorant idiot. You have no idea what it is to be part of a cohesive unit. I feel sorry for you and I hate to tell you that you would most likely be the one that no one would cover and protect their back. Ask God for forgiveness for your sins. While you are in the background doing nothing we will leave you there because the rest of us aren't interested in saving your retched life. We all know how important it is to have each others backs. I guess you missed that day in boot camp.

  • PastorRuth1

    It is too bad that so much must be lost and sacrificed by this administration, when so much could be gained if Obama were not Prezident. I am praying to that end...Only God knows what his "timeline for destruction" is. 2016 cannot come soon enough! We need to actively work in our precincts to not only widen the reach of conservative congressmen and women, but to verify a fair and honest voting process, going back to paper ballots, and assuring that fraud does not happen AGAIN as I am convinced that is how Obama won this election. Check out the utube video of the computer programmer who created a program for voting machines to GUARANTTEE a 51%-49% outcome!

    My choice right now is Rand Paul for President! But no matter who it is, it must be done fairly! Something Democrats don't care about as long as their lying and cheating gains them the indended end result - the "end justifies the means" mentality.

    If this "man" is able to declare Martial Law, somehow coerces what remains of our military to turn on its citizens, and opens the hundreds of FEMA camps "turn-key-ready" for use, Millions of Americans will fall before a cloaked dictator-in-chief who NEVER had any intended goal but to "bring down America" financially, morally, and governmentally... becoming the LAST Prezident of the USA!



    The answer lies with GOD and His People! I challenge you to keep the feast of Purim - Feb. 23-24, (14-15 Purim) today and tomorrow. Let's fast tomorrow for our nation and repent (turn away from sin and back to GOD) starting with US - HIS PEOPLE FIRST! "If MY PEOPLE..."

    Judgement begins in the house of GOD. It is up to us as believer to lead the way to repentence and to the "healing" of our LAND!

    • strojan

      2016 will mean nothing. He has no intention of leaving the office of the President in 2016. They are already talking about a 3rd term. He will declare martial law and declare himself the dictator of this great country. God will be the only Savior. Prayers and forgiveness will have to overpower the wickedness of Satan. God have mercy on our souls.

      • PastorRuth1

        Have hope! God will be the Victor and nothing and no one - not even Obama - can stand before him and survive - unless clothed in the Salvation Christ offers by his own death on the cross. That IS and ever HAS BEEN mankind's ONLY HOPE. HIS WORD STILL STANDS! Blessings, my friend!

  • Tricia65

    This a BS article. The kind of crap that is framed to incite the masses. We conservatives and Patriots are smarter than this and should take the conspiracy crap with a grain of salt.

  • BillboyBaggins

    I don't put anything past Obama, but I need confirmation.

  • aurora9

    They have also been finding fault with our Generals and humiliating them publicly and discouraging their leadership. It won't only be our ex-military who will stand and defend our Nation!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1486141321 Joanne Satmary

    would you expect anything less from a known murderer!

  • strojan

    Many of us are leaving the country. Like in Nazi Germany, we are all on lists may of us are War College trained. I am going to another country where I can obtain dual citizenship and I won't travel on a US Passport. Those who stay will be hunted down and eliminated. I have spoken to other officers who are colleagues of mine and they are looking for countries that are safe havens for themselves. If we are all dead there is no one to lead the militia in our new country. Obama will be successful in purging the military of all moral officers. Before I got hurt we discussed the changes and many of us saw the writing on the wall when it came to this new administration. We are Oathkeepers. We will not be swayed. There are those who would sell the military out. Pray for all of us. He will never take over Special Forces or the Intel community. Some General Officers and Admirals can be bought but, that makes my stomach turn. Pray. Be strong. Believe. Don't let them destroy this country.

  • RockyMtn1776

    None of the active duty troops I know will do it. They have already talked about this among themselves. All said they ONLY way they would shoot an American is if they were attacked by an armed gang. Most of the rank & file still honor the oath they took even if was years ago. A shame we can't say the same about our elected officals.

  • lfhpueblo

    Well then, I have to say this, the military leaders should lie and say they will, when in fact they won't. I mean O has lied to everyone, so I think they should lie right back to him and give him a piece of his own medicine so to speak. Those outted military leaders should start forming some militias I think, to protect us from domestic terrorism at the highest levels.

  • mogul264

    And, don't forget Obama's statement about a civilian national police force GREATER IN NUMBER than the military! Looks now like he's decided to do it with his 'trained monkeys' who will be LEFT in the military!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1552805917 David Roberts

    Not so quick Mr Garrow.Probably 150 million citizens, maybe more, will put up one Hell of a fight. Maybe all 300 Million will fight, maybe not.

  • Herb_Diehr

    Another (Pessimistic) View
    In 2008 Obama said a very strange thing on the campaign trail. To para-phrase: 'We need a civilian army just as large and just as strong aand as well-armed as the active duty army.'
    Well, he doesn't have one.
    He needs an army willing to kill American citizens. He doesn't have one.
    What he has done is weakened active duty forces and will continue. He has weakened civilian ability to fight and is trying to take away the means; our guns. This is what the Second Ammendment is all about, not hunting deer.
    Obama seems to have an afinity with the Arab states. How strong? Strong enough to apologize for our country's activities and bow to a king (a very powerful one). Is he a US-born citizen? Doesn't matter, now.
    Has anything been done about Iran's nuclear ambitions? North Korea has bombs, and very quickly shall have long-range missiles, nuclear-capable. China has, and does, to an unknown extent. So did (white) South Africa. Unknown, now. Let's leave Russia and the rest of Europe out of this, for now.
    Enemies of the USA are gathering nuclear weapons. Someone (Iran?) will use one. Then, who knows. We shall respond. (perhaps). Does the president have to authorize a nuclear launch. I have heard so. I believe so. And, I suspect he cannot be over-ridden by anyone else. The keys in the silo's just won't turn.
    That leaves us a bit vulnerable.
    I don't believe naval nukes nor army nukes nor air force nuke's could fire, either. Now, my military background did not include any part of this, but I do listen; still. Some American person out there does know, and it would be nice to hear from them. Not opinion, but fact.
    Now comes the 'fun'!
    Many governments hate us and we all know which ones. There are two groupings. China and muslims. Our 'allies'? Europe, including Russia, and a handful of little countries, mostly unable to help. Even Cuba will help, this time.
    Now, where does Obama get his civilian 'army'? The muslim hoards. How do they get here? on oil tankers? some, maybe. Perhaps a few naval transports could be captured. That won't move an army. The Chinese are building a deep-sea fleet and specializing in troop-transports. That WILL move an army. Theirs. The muslims? They shall take a while, but troop-transports are just not that hard to make.
    This cannot happen soon, due to the requirement for troop-transports and a navy to get them here. China cannot be ready until 2025, if then (by my estimation, and others more equipped to make that decision).
    The United States of America must be destroyed from within. A good job on that has begun. If Obama moves to a 'third-forever' term, and still has Secret-Service men, he'll be dead. Bet he won't and will never be seen in public.
    Once the USA has lost it's guns and had the general and admiral levels crippled, there will be no need for him. Our enemies shall see him as no longer useful and a potential threat. And, his people. Another 'Night of the Long Knives' shall occur.
    How to make sure the USA and allies will not be able to fight when the time comes? We have a pretty open border and it shall be more open. Bringing ANYTHING across theMexican border shall be possible. Nukes will be in place by then. Unknown. The most important thing relies upon the proper use of nuclear missiles. Short-range will do, even from a (large) fishing boat. ICBM's wiil do just fine, as well. The EMP bomb is the final killer. There will be no civilian ability to organize very well, perhaps no larger than a regiment. Military weapons avallable. Much of the stuff just won't work, any more. Hardened electronics only goes so far.
    Placed nukes can do tremendous damage. It shall take a considerable number of EMP bombs, and they must be fairly high up to do their job well. A dozen will cripple the USA to infantry. And, nukes (no missiles). We can take warheads off of missiles and place them, too. Can we count on the air force to do this? Absolutely. Inter-service bickering aside, we have the best military in the world and what's left shall work together and fight.
    Who wins after the West and Russia are hit with EMP bombs? God knows. He DOES know. The heathen shall not win against God's people. We shall become a Christian people from one end to the other. This is our best hope. God. With Him, all things are possible; without Him, nothing is possible.
    We shall rise up from the ashes and defeat the Chinese from the west and muslims from the east. And then, rebuild. The USA cannot be stopped with God's help, and the 'Sleeping giant' shall rise again and evolve our world to 'One World Government'; ours.
    Herb Diehr
    Semper Fidelis

  • http://www.facebook.com/RolloverRiderPGR George Purdy

    He forgets. The "Leaders" have to be sure that the led don't realize whats going on and "frag" the leaders! When the shooters out number the idiots obozo puts in charge for something like this then the "fragging" starts and there are not that many morons willing to lead as the article says. Again they have to stay alive and I know for a fact that if it got to that point the one who orders that crap will be the one to find out that privates can become theirt worst enemnies and they DO outnumber the Sargents and those up to O-5! An order like that could spell the end of this administration and I would LOVE to be on the front row to watch O get his!

  • nanblan

    Every single day of this administration has brought further fear into my life. We absolutely have to start taking some drastic action.

  • James White, M.D.

    When evil rules, anything is possible. If American soldiers can be brainwashed to the point of killing patriotic Americans, then it seems a proper time for a Christian patriotic American to stand and fight, remembering Patrick Henry's philosophy: "Give me liberty, or give me death." If God has plans for an American future, "we" will prevail; I have no interest in living under tyranny. Dominus vobiscum.

  • greytlady

    explains all the ammo they have stockpiled!

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  • Mad Mike

    Amen. The civil war is comming. Do not surrender your weapons or ammo. You will need them soon.

  • alio

    Why would anyone who approves of killing babies have a problem with killing citizens?
    Remember: Waco, Tx

  • SallyE

    I know some Americans that will fire back if fired upon.

  • Mad Mike

    What I want to know is where are the republicans in regards to this information? Why hasn't there been a public congressional investigation launched? This is clearly Impeachment information. Where is Fox News? Why aren't the recently retired or dismissed military officers going on the news or giving sworn testimony? While Obama is disarming the american public, he is arming Muslim terroist countries with our F-16's and Abrams tanks and billions of our tax dollars. Obama has a gun to our heads and is slowly squeezing the trigger, while we sit there and grin at him! Who's stupid?

  • Mad Mike

    It has become apparant that Obama is really a Muslim terroist. He is an imposter, an enemy agent bent on our destruction and being helped by a communist dominated democrat party and news media. We are in deep trouble folks. He is making his move as dictator during this term. Each and every outrage he get's away with, encourges him and his henchmen to go further and further against america. Obama is convinced that americans will not fight for their country or their constitution and that all republican politicians are too cowardy to stand against him.

  • Robertz

    You all need to find yourself a young soldier or marine who is newly enlisted and training and ask him/her what the feds are training them for. In some units, only the officers are being told what the real mission is for now. I had 3 recently tell me they ARE training for martial law right now.

  • John Laigaie III

    resistance...........keep that concept in your mind......and your heart.

  • Phillip_in_TX

    Whoever fires upon "civilians" becomes the "enemy." When I was in the Air Force, AFR 125-26, The Arming And Use Of Force By Air Force Personnel: . . . the right to self defense is never denied.

    Every person has the "right to self defense."

  • http://www.facebook.com/rwkimble Robert Kimble

    I got my beautiful Chinese baby out of that hell hole in 1999 during a tense time when crossing through Hong Kong because those Chinese nitwits were over searching even our group of 12 who just wanted to get out of the Chinese shithole and into Hong Kong back to freedom. Chinese are very short-sighted--maybe we could only hope they will become extinct just like the dinosaurs. It's too late you stupid morons because you just gave away or killed the gender that will reproduce.

  • mrz80

    Wellllllll.... I think it sounds overly paranoid, but then, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...

  • rafaelito7

    None taken. It’s that as Americans when we come together and
    have a common cause as in the case of the Vietnam War, race shouldn’t matter.
    This is exactly what this false president has done. He has played military
    tactics on the American people without many even knowing it, and thus has
    succeeded to divide our country-using race as a tool to “DIVIDE AND CONQUER”
    And now he’s feeling his way through the possibilities by asking our Military
    Commanders whether they will uphold a mandate and fire upon Americans. This is
    Chilling. Why the question? I understand perfectly your concerns and respect and agree with thatwe should be watching our backs, but that should always be cautious in any
    environment. I did it in the streets of New York living among the gangs of my
    times. I am sure that I, or any true American, from any race, would never fire upon you or your family for your love of Freedom and Liberty.

  • SickofitAll

    CHAOS will reign. Gen. Mattis is the wrong Marine to piss off. Semper Fi. This had to happen, CHAOS is the picture of Leadership, Responsibility and Badassness, while Obama's leftist turds are the picture of worthlessness. Im surprised he didnt choke them unconscious with his mind. Prepare yourselves for the coming years.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HR3LKB2O2PDUU27B3SSQV4PIE Anthony

    this is nothing new...just watch what he does not what he says...bama we will see u in the streets...soon!

  • Patriot_765

    It will be the blue helmets of the UN that will have no problem in firing on Americans.

    • JT1964

      If they try to send UN troops to U.S. ground, they had better send many refrigerated train cars along with them. We will not fire upon US military or police, but foreign fighters on US soil would result in an "Open Season" event.

      I have a hard time imagining that they (the gubment) would be so stupid as to try anything like a gun grab, but we will see. Take Care and God Bless!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HR3LKB2O2PDUU27B3SSQV4PIE Anthony

    the fifties and sixties will be back again for the blacks...let the games begin!!!!!


      Now what the heck kind of stupid comment is that. None of this is about throwing out anyone's civil rights, it's about protecting them. I would sure hope you are not saying just because der Furher is HALF African, this is going to be open season on hate crimes against Blacks. If I misunderstood, I'm sorry. If I didn't, it is a reprehensible statement and I will be standing with the blacks. The last stupid thing we need is for some demented KKK wannabe to look at this as an opportunity to turn back the clock on racism. My God man, hasn't the racism on the part of der Furher and Liberal Whites been enough to remind you why it was always wrong and why we will NEVER return to that again?

  • gypsy314

    I say waiting is a mistake and we have surprise on our side. If our elected leaders do not impeach Obama and crew then all hopes of peacefully removing Obama will be lost and as many would say talking will be over and action is the results for the country we all love so much. We can not fail because Americans know freedom is not cheap and the rights we all enjoy will not be there unless we spend time and blood to keep them. I hope our leaders do not fail on impeachment. May god help us all. Spread the word be ready when the shooting starts. First the riots will break and as we all see testing gun control in certain states were they have man power to disarm will be first move on Obama and crew part. We must demand impeachment of Obama NOW.

  • http://www.facebook.com/garrey.mcvicker Garrey McVicker


  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Marino/1158488124 Jack Marino

    When all these commanders are retired and out of the military and this little dictator makes his FORT SUMTER move and commits an act of treason to the constitution. Does anyone think for one minute that these commanders will not be commanding the 275million armed American citizens. How many of the troops does this sick marxist thinks he is going to control when they join the other side. Liberal Generals don't fight wars they hide out, kiss ass and get paid. All we can do is wait for the Emperor loser to make his move then he will find out how alone he is.

  • Grandma Kitty

    And congress is doing NOTHING about this guy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lori.davenport Lori Davenport

    Obama is looking for Hitlers Youth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000000541834 Ted Smith

    This is a specious argument. If some idiot came to my house and threatened my life, I would bust my ass to shoot him first, US citizen or not. I would also expect our military people to shoot anyone who was trying to plant a bomb or shoot school kids, even if those trying to committ those crimes were US citizens. Wouldn't you?

  • jsmithcsa

    Without proof, I am convinced this is all BS. I am a veteran (retired senior officer) and work in this business -- I don't believe a word of this.

  • ireAmerica

    da Tagliare:
    Thanks for exposing ANOTHER part of "the Agenda". When does the impeachment start?

  • JAS64

    What part of TREASON, do people not understand???

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-Harper/1006354778 Steve Harper

    if any part of this was true would mean the millitary already will not stay within the constitution,which would make me beleive the story is made up

  • Attila

    One thing for sure: those officers who order their troops to fire on civilians will be the first to be fired upon.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christine-Hatfield/1788005418 Christine Hatfield

    I definitely agree that Obama has plans to purposely destroy America in order to
    create a national emergency. I suspect it will come as a false-flag attack. Whichever way it comes, he will declare
    martial law and assume dictatorial control. He is a puppet of the Globalists that want one world government. It's time to lock 'n load fellow patriots.

    Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/9112/obama-tailoring-military-leadership-to-only-those-who-will-shoot-fellow-americans/#ixzz2IxAC9JCW

  • Jess Espinosa

    With this frightening possibility and knowing that the U.S. is led by an out-of-control, power-hungry Muslim wacko, has anyone thought of grabbing their rosaries, falling on their knees and praying as if everything depends on it? I know that's what I will do beginning today until Obama is NO-Bama.


    Then we have to have our STATES prepared to do what they can in defense and clandestiley arrange for vets to be able to frankly steal B2's and F-16's and a host of other military defense weapons. There is plenty of know how and Hoo Rah in our non-active vets to try and ward off the new SS. If the current military will follow illegal and immoral orders towards an end that is not USA's but der Fuher, Obama, then we'll have to take them on too. We can come up with a sensible and workable plan, if it comes down to it, to take a military base. I don't live that far from (I won't give away the location, but it is in the top 3) and they have, of course, many civilian workers. I also know the mindset of the hundereds of thousands who occuply this beautiful state, and we will all do our part. We just need to be able to get in, load ordinance and get 'em in the air. It can be done but it won't be easy and it will be messy. But if my US Armed Forces are willing to shoot me in the head because they are commanded to, they don't deserve to wear the uniform of honorable vets that have kept this country safe for a long time. I hope all this is just hot air blowing and we get sane again in 2016, but if not the new Furher is gonna find that this is not 1930's Germany.

  • GrumpyOne

    Remember the movie, "The Manchurian Candidate?"

    Well, it appears to have come true and if so this country will face total subjugation or a Jeffersonian revolution. He has already rendered the Congress and judiciary ineffective so not that much remains to be done.

    Time will tell and I'll tell ya, I'm glad that I'm a geezer and if lucky will not suffer the ultimate insult...

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Wade/100003469516633 Ray Wade

    I just do not think Obama has the stones to pull this off. If he tries it I hope he does it before we the Vietnam Vets get to old to walk. We got something for him and we will deliver it gift wrapped. Sure would like to live out the rest of my life in peace. The good lord knows I have seen enough killing to do me five life times. If he tries something like this I am going to be beyond ill.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Desade/1587910978 Mark Desade

    Being a combat veteran myself (EOD), I have posed the question to friends in the military what would happen if they received a command to fire upon American citizens (other than a Katrina type disaster where they shoot looters or criminals). They have told me they and their troops would frag their superior officers issuing the command. They said there would also be many desertions with soldiers and sailors joining citizens. Same for my law enforcement friends. Our army only has around 1 million soldiers. There are some 120 million gun owners and 36 million veterans. And we all know from watching our military in Iraq and Afghanistan that a few thousand insurgents can cause problems, even for our well-armed soldiers. Imagine what over 100 million armed insurgents can do? We may find ourselved also fighting Obama's civilian supporters in the streets as well. Hopefully, it will never come to that.

  • http://profiles.google.com/livfreeordi Tom T

    When I was a military officer, I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies , foreign AND domestic. Not good news for Obama. If any military member ever had fired upon Americans exercising their rights under the Constitution, I would have shot him.

    • Bob

      Talk is cheap. There have been several recent incidents where the American military have fired upon Americans exercising their consistutional rights such as freedom of speech and freedom of the press. They just don't advertise it. Google Michael Hastings and tell me that wasn't a drone strike.

  • Lawerence

    During one of Obama's Campaign Stops in 2008 He made this Statement ( I Believe We Need To Create A Civilian Army That Is As Well Equipped And Trained As Our Military Counterpart ) At The Time I Didn't Understand What He Meant ; Now It's Become Clear., Forcing His Socialist / Marxist Desires On The American People Would Be A Problem !!!

  • MIKE6080

    Has he talked to any SEALS lately ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/gary.e.inman Gary E Inman

    OathKeepers.org Vet's, Avtive Duty Military, Law Enforcement and those of you that believe in the "Constitution and Bill of Right's" go check this orginization out and join... The man in office is a danger to our way of life and liberty..

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  • scneocon

    This dovetails nicely with this other piece that's been making the rounds lately. Don't think it can happen? It could & this should serve as a warning to those who would attempt such folly.

    Enjoy - http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/what-i-saw-at-the-coup/

  • Xin_Loi

    If he attempts any dictatorial action against the American people he will wind up as the new Benito Mussolini, hanging upside down on the National Mall with Biden by his side.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rczajkowski Richard T Jr Czajkowski

    To all who voted for this douchbag. Here's your prize. You thought he was on your side. Dumbasses!

  • Melia Sese

    "I’ve been writing for a couple years now saying that Obama has plans to purposely destroy America’s economy in order to create a national emergency. This would give him the reason to declare martial law and assume dictatorial control. He will disband Congress and establish his own Gestapo style national police."

    Ah, paisan ... do you have anything other than "hunches" that this is an operative policy? And don't give me that debt and bankruptcy garbage, because I will presonally debunk any and all of this nonsense - I'm just waiting for any opportunity to do so. Usually these encounters end swiftly ... in certain places, those who lose the argument to Melia quickly descend to name-calling, thereby clinching it.

    Sometimes the level of paranoia in US politics is utterly hillarious (I remember much similar nonsense from the other side when GW Bush was in the WH), but we ought to live up to our contentions that we are the "logical" side in the debate. Depending on the likes of Rush Limbaugh (a college dropout with zero economic knowledge) is not a formula for understanding how things actually work - despite his haughty proclamations to be the "mayor of real-ville."

    I fully realize that many who contribute on these forums are seniors like myself, and many of us are frightened by what they see happening ... some of this is warranted. But, as we are also the ones with experience, it behooves us to seek a deeper understanding. There are many areas of life where the US is far less freer than it was when I came to live here in 1971, but it's not all bad. The advances in technology have greatly raised the standard of living for the average American, despite the number of us who have lost jobs due to continued automation. Of course, this has been an ongoing process for the past 100 years. I have thoughts about how to reverse this, too, but that is a different subject. For the time being, I want to counter some of this absolute hysteria, an example of which is the quote I opened this posting with.

  • Neal

    I'm former military and retired from law enforcement. I will fight this commie to my last breath. Any law enforcement officer or any military personnel that attempt to confiscate my gun will be met with live rounds. I know I'll be out gunned, but I'd rather not live under a treasonous half baked dictator..

  • b h

    The private citizens in this country is I believe is the largest standing army in the world. What do you think would happen if the tards In the blue helmets set up check points for this or that here in America? We as free thinking people armed to the teeth to protect ourselves from Washington would shoot and drive them off American soil. It's the nuts in Washington handing over our rights and freedoms to the world. They have more treaties pending in the UN to rape our sovereignty and send us the bill. At some point they will go to far. Good luck to them all I. Their endeavor to collect our guns only the truly moronic will obey that law and hand them over. As I read earlier somewhere.....MOLON LABE !

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=629591346 Gary Jones

    Obama proves his stupidity about the American Soldiers, First, they do not have to follow unconstitutional orders, Second, they have been fighting tyrannical regimes and tyrants to help free people. Obama which way will the barrel swing when the order is given to shoot family and friends..The targets will be the commanders giving the orders and surely will win you a dot on the spot.

  • YRofTexas

    @ Sunny Rudd: What you posted (The 9 Steps) verifies some substance of a talk by Mark Levin that Bill Ayers back in the 1960's, in a meeting of similar deviant minds, determined that there would be a need of mass extermination of American citizenry in order to force compliance...their number to murder? 25 million by their estimates.

  • Erick Amthor

    oathkeepers.org Pass on to all active military, law enforcement, retired and veterans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-J-Goetz/100000220315231 David J. Goetz

    Not as long as i and Any Real Americans live and breath !!!

  • pete

    I was in during the Vietnam era, and we were asked the same question - are you willing to fire on Americans if the need should arise.

    The decision rests with our own conscience, that is the big reason God has been removed from our nation. People who have a conscience will think twice rather than blindly follow orders like muslims.

    There may come a time when it will be necessary, but I don't see our military firing on American like the TEA Party or Republicans just because they are ordered to do so.

    I personally know of people who, prior to their service, had intended to go into law enforcement, but after decided that to do so may put them face to face with somebody they had recently been in combat with. They admitted they would have issues with orders to shoot their combat brother.

  • don

    this man sees the light. an if you don't have blinders on you can see it to. time grows short action must be done soon talk is useless. they think we will be weaked kneed . to save this nation we had better not be. they will now only understand force an they think they can beat us down

  • Patriot DJ

    I read the banter between so many on the posts previously written. It's very sad. Now is the time we Americans must stand together. I don't care what you look like, what religion, gender etc. If you truly love this country for what it stands for, than you will fight for your fellow patriot. We could disagree on every issue but one. And that is defending and protecting the liberties and freedoms that have made America the greatest country in the world. I will lay down my life without hesitation to protect my fellow patriot and this country. Period. May God give us the wisdom and tenacity to unite for this cause. May we put our differences aside and come together at a time when the nation needs us the most. The future is in our hands now more than ever. Molon Labe. God Bless America.

  • Tony

    This is turning into a patriotic, pro constitution Pearl Harbor. I believe that this regime, obama and his ilk have awakened a sleeping giant. I think this has turned into more than just the wackos living in bunkers and caves with a five year supply of food waiting for the big one to drop. The more we wake up to this lunacy, the stronger the real America made up of hard working, god fearing and constitution respecting people will become. I am not a racist but unfortunately, this has turned into a racist issue. My biggest fear is that the real issue will be drowned out by racists KKK and skinhead types along with the extremists.

    If we can just get the entitlement crowd to see how much they are slaves to their own government there is hope. Unfortunately, I also believe that because of the economic policies put in place, a collapse is inevitable and the people will rise up and there will be bloodshed and the government knows this so they buy bullets and try to take our guns. You'd have to be an idiot or a boiling frog not to see the connected dots. I believe that obama is deliberately taking this country down. If he's not, then he must be stupid.

    You have to take a stand on your beliefs at some point. Are we better off then 4 years ago? Not just unemployment but more in a sense of security and hope for the future. If your answer is no then you have to ask yourself has this government made wise decisions how they spent your money. If you beleive they were foolish then you have to start looking at motives. Are they incompetent or is it by design? What I haven't come to grips with is how we've been played and duped. There are many intelligent people drinking the obama koolaid.

    Of course you still have the ones that say they voted for him becasue he's black. Shame on them. I'm a white male and I don't owe the black population a darn thing except for compassion as a fellow human being, respect until they lose it, friendship, and an equal opportunity to do what any other person no matter what race has. Sick to death of this legal reparations crap going on and I am sick to death of people being judged or stereotyped becasue of the color of their skin. People, it is the abundance of what comes out of your heart that is important. Good and bad. This person in the white house has divided us more then I can ever remember in my lifetime.

    America needs a spiritual and moral awakening like never before or this country is lost because this is not Change that I can Believe in. Can we sit back and watch this country be changed to a socialist society dependent upon the government? The antithesis answer to obama's chant of yes we can is NO WE CAN'T.

  • VMColes

    obama is clearly a bad man, an even worse leader...correction he IS NOT a leader, but a cancer to our nation. We, The People; God's People, must turn our lives back to decency and pray for God to intervene. Amen?


    I'm on board with all my American brothers and sisters. We don't blink and run like community organizers or occupy BS people. If we blink, it's just the wind blowing the cordite the wrong way. :) Watch your back, watch your neighbor's back, because the illegals and porch monkeys will come running if they think the time is right to come grab your tv. I always wondered, if we revolt, and it gets serious, what do those porch monkeys think they will be watching anyway? Got news for ya, the pawn shop aint interested and the foodstamp card is not going to be reloaded. Think they even think of that? The Constitution trumps everything, so I don't care what uniform or what badge is on the person expecting me to give them my guns and ammo, but they are only going to get ammo, and not the way they expect it. I stay locked and loaded and if I have to, I'll be focused in and ready to rock and roll. I will need a bunch of Qu'rans though if toilet paper gets any more expensive.

  • 1PierreMontagne1

    Starting after the election in 2008 DHS was suddenly being reconfigured. Anyone who was a front line volunteer for the "War on Terrorism" after 911 saw themselves being forcibly transferred to non-related duties, pressured into taking earlier than planned retirement, and if resistant finding themselves being investigated over career destroying spurious allegations of breaching any type of regulations or even federal law .

    It was clear that the "Sleeper" bureaucrats installed by Carter and Clinton were finally activated. Anyone subjected to the Nation wide administrative cleansing (unless in denial) knows that the Marxist era had come into power at the federal level. The only thing that had defended America all these years was a Politically Correct belief that 'A takeover could never happen"

    It has happened, and it became complete when Obama sold Revolution to the electorate as "Change" and elimination of the Constitution he sold as "Hope".

    So confident are they who are now in power that they mock any and all questioners and do as they please while preparations continue in this second term for the final "Putsch" as the Fascist like to call it.

    The only Justice the American public will see is the Silencing, Disappearances of and even liquidations of the Useful idiots who have made it all happen. The silencing is already taking place.

    No one who can really do anything is waking up. At best they are trying to dismiss the obvious as a bad dream.

    The levers to exersize TOTAL CONTROL over the entire population by Executive ordered Thuggery are already in place, and the Contingency plans to execute those orders were all issued to the affected agencies as late as last September 2012. Yet the same Oval office either could not or was not interested in issuing a budget? The paper work for societal takeover was more important?

    Now we see Obama's creation called "Sequester" emasculating Air land and Sea capabilities of the US marines. The Marines? The only self sufficient, rapid deployment military agency in the US arsenal that could conceivably remove a traitorous government from a Nation - what Nation could that be?

    Believing the forgoing, and believing that worse,much worse not mentioned is mere coincidence certainly allows one to breathe a Politically correct sigh of relief doesn't it?

  • Carla Rogers Williams

    ...so they'll fire on Obama as well....