Pastor Plans Toy Gun Buyback For Church Kids

Gun buyback programs are nothing but photo opportunities for local police departments. They’re PR campaigns for local governments to show everyone that they’re doing their part to curb gun violence. Any one buyback might yield a couple thousand firearms, but in reality, they do nothing to curb gun violence. It just looks good and feels good to the people involved. How many of the guns turned in were defunct and worth next to nothing? How many were used to commit a crime? How many were stolen?

In the eyes of one pastor in St. Louis, Missouri, one can never do too much to help curb gun violence. Rodney Francis is the pastor at Washington Tabernacle Baptist Church. He’s planning a toy gun buyback for kids. Francis said that they’ve got to teach them young so that they don’t get a distorted view of guns when they get older:

“My wife and I feel that we need to do everything we can to not allow our kids to get exposed to this too early. They’re going to get exposed to it but we can protect them early on so they don’t get a distorted view of what those can do to the human body. We want to engage the culture of violence and one of the strategies that we thought we might be able to use is to educate parents about the danger of allowing kids to continue this access to toy guns and playing with toy guns.”

The pastor and his wife don’t allow violent video games, violent movies or toy guns in their house. That’s fine. What I don’t know is if they have real guns for real self-defense and real protection of their family. Instead of getting kids to turn in their toy guns in order to get those “assault” Nerf guns off the streets, how about teaching the kids at a young age about how to use real guns? Teach them about gun safety. Yes, show them how dangerous a gun can be, but also how important one can be if one’s life is in danger.

Teaching kids at a young age is important. But what will it teach them if they’re being told to turn in their toys? It will teach them that guns are in and of themselves bad. And anything that looks like a gun, a toy, a drawing or even a hand shaped like one are all evil. But that kind of mentality will not help protect anyone from a violent criminal.

Besides, trying to disarm the law-abiding child population in this St. Louis church may only lead to a black market of toy guns. And I’m sure this pastor won’t want these toy guns ending up in the wrong hands.

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  • DontTreadOnMe11

    I have 2 broken squirt guns. How much are they worth?

    • danimal

      time in jail...if you don't have a ccp

  • Screeminmeeme

    "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUNG, how to use them." (Richard Henry Lee, 1788, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights)

  • Harvey817

    Ted Kennedy has killed more people than toy guns. It is bad enough that the liberal politicians want to eliminate guns and now some idiot preacher is ignoring the problem too. He needs to be teaching GOD's word and the difference between right and wrong. Guns are just a tool and only shoot where they are aimed. The lack of morals, a father to support and teach his children, preachers to support the truth, and a government that enslaves people with welfare, unemployment and a host of other socialist/communist ways are most of the problems.

  • Doodlebug

    How many lives are lost to abortion?? What is the number up to now?? Here again we have a loose nut in command, taking lives. Is it any different that the loose nut pulling the trigger of a gun?? I played cops and robbers, cowboys and Indians and I never killed anyone. Just what good is buying back toys going to do? Ans. about as much good as any new laws which would constrict guns or ammo, NONE!! Before you confiscate TOYS how about stopping the production of violent movies and games. Hell no, they contribute to the dummicrat JA's campaigns. Sorry world we live in, hey?

  • BigUgly666

    Why don't you just try teaching them how to be responsible, productive, and honest, instead of how to sponge off of good people?

  • DWinch

    Turning little boys into future girly men but there not really men are they?

  • AMERICAN

    This pastor has it all wrong, he should teach the kids at their ministry the seriousness but importance of owning and handling a gun instead of putting on that clown act of his.

  • edc

    Being a "pastor" doesn't make one inteligent nor Christian. I think the pastor needs more time with the Lord and less time with his political peers.

  • ves

    This man is just too stupid for words and I would NO Longer attend any church that sponsors this type of crap!
    How about teaching that having Illegitmate kids is wrong and that welfare is for temporary hardship not for life!!
    How about respect .. truth .. hardwork ..and keeping your pantsup!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jerry.white.39982 Jerry White

    How ridiculous! The church should be about saving souls, not buying toys.

  • PLW

    Who thinks up these ideas ????? DUMB & DUMBER ???? May God Bless and HELP America !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • rchguns

    I will bet that this pastor is also one of the group who preaches that we never went to the moon and that the world is flat! It probably also one of the people who believe in UFOs are simply manifestations placed there by the devil to divert mankind from the study of God.

    In other words it's a total religious idiot.

  • loricaliforni

    Gotta say I was surprised to see it was a Baptist pastor - was expecting it to be one of the liberal denominations. Wake up Church - pay attention to what your leaders are doing and saying. The people are being led down a path of destruction. Learn how to have discerning eyes and ears! Pray for wisdom and don't be afraid to leave your church if they start preaching social justice and liberalism. Once they go there, chances are they aren't preaching the true Gospel of Christ anymore either.

    • Greg B

      There are plenty of liberal Baptists.

  • CharlaS

    This is foolish. As. Samuel L. Johnson, actor, recently said, "don't think it's about more gun control. I grew up in the South with guns everywhere and we never shot anyone. This is about people who aren't taught the value of life."
    Let the pastor teach reverence for life. The sooner children are exposed to firearms in a proper way, the sooner they learn that real guns are very different from toys. And children are certainly intelligent to discern the difference VERY early.

  • CharlaS

    A Grassroots Patriot recently noted in an Internet post, "Participating in a gun buyback because you believe that the criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you believe that the neighbors have too many kids."

  • Chet

    This preacher did not derive his plan from rightly dividing the word of truth. When it comes to his own family he ought to do what he thinks best, lead. When it comes to dealing with others, including those of the local church, he ought to stick to preaching the word, the Holy Bible, and seek the salvation of men's eternal souls. Why not cry out against the vast array of SIN we see everywhere, not on the evils of a gun which can not do any harm unless done so by its user.

  • Velvetsteel

    My sons and I played with toy guns, cops and robbers, cowboys and indians, and war. When they were old enough, we went to the firing range. We also went hunting. The resuts were unbelievable. My daughter is my hunter and had her senior class pictures taken with her shotgun.
    The boys? Well one is the Dean of Students at a seminary, fluent in Greek and Hebrew, with an earned Ph.d. The other is a professional performer and a great entertainer. Neither care for guns.
    Point of lesson: Toy guns definitely will warp your kids, ask my daughter. But please, please be polite, cuz she's not afraid to Pull the Trigger!!

    • danimal

      I made a gun case, just like the one I use, for my grandkids, as a teaching tool, TO BE RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS. Worked like a charm

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    "Because many of today’s pulpits are filled with antinomian, pacifistic, anti-gun pastors, most of today’s Christians are unaware Yahweh ordered His disciples to arm themselves. Consequently, Christians have looked to the Second Amendment for their authority to keep and bear arms. Had they been following the Apostle Paul’s instructions in 2 Timothy 2:15 (“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth”) instead of relying on such pastors, they would have found their authority in the Bible. The question regarding firearms is one of self-defense:

    'If the thief is caught while breaking in, and is struck so that he dies, there will be no
    bloodguiltiness on his account. But if the sun has risen on him, there will be bloodguiltiness on his account….' (Exodus 22:2-3, referred to by Christ in Matthew 24:43)....

    "What [Fredrick] Bastiat depicted as a natural right, the Apostle Paul described as a God-required responsibility:

    '…if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.' (1 Timothy 5:8)

    "After providing for his family’s spiritual safety, a Christian man’s next priority should be providing for his family’s physical protection. Food, clothing, and shelter are of little benefit if you are unprepared or unwilling to defend your family against thieves, rapists, and murderers. It is not unchristian to practice self-defense – it is unchristian if you do not."

    For more, see online Chapter 12 "Amendment 2: Constitutional vs. Biblical Self-Defense" at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt12.html.

    • Davy Crockett

      The argument of inalienable rights vs. duties and responsibilities is both false and hollow. It is solely based on the straw man that rights are optional while these God given duties and responsibilities are not optional. One; this concept would nullify the well excepted Christian doctrine of Freewill. God is not going to tie us up and drag us screaming into heaven. Each day we must make a choice whether to obey God or not. Over and over in the Bible God has said “choose this day whom you will serve” (Josh. 24:14-15). Second; those who espouse this idea put forth no scripture showing the concept of inalienable rights as being unbiblical. Third; the very scripture they put forth refutes their own argument. Rightly they say they show us our God given duties and responsibilities, but it is in these very scriptures that we are granted our inalienable rights,

      Additionally if we come together to pool our resources in order to fulfill our obligations such as to provide safety and protection through our local police, militia, and neighborhood watch. If these were to became so proficent as to lower the crime rate to Mayberry standards. Then gun fatalities are primarily accidental shootings the question will be asked why are we allowing such deaths, it is irresponsible to have private gun ownership. At this point what argument do you have, since your duties and responsibilities have and are being fulfilled? None. But thankfully God did not set things up this way, for all institutions whether government, public or private, are made with men's imperfect minds and hands. Thus they will succumb to corruption and the use of tyranny, no matter how much scriptures they codify into their laws. The only safe guard for society, for our liberty, prosperity, and welfare, is that citizen practice their inalienable rights in fulfillment of their God given duties and responsibilities in accordance with their convictions of faith in Jesus Christ and nothing else save for God above.

      “Rights” as in such as those recognized and guaranteed in the Bill of Rights are real and Biblical in our horizontal relationship with men. These are God given, inalienable rights granted by the duties and responsibilities God has given us in Scripture. Some examples are Gen. 1:26 were we are given dominion over the earth and all that is in it and “But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” (1st Tim. 5:8). Providing means such things as security, food, shelter, etc, so from these passages we see our right to self defense and to bear arms, property rights and security of property etc. Everyone of our true rights can be found in Scripture like this.

      Before God, in our vertical relationship what we call “rights” are necessary parts of duties and responsibilities He has given us. Yet before Him, we do have rights, but a different type of rights. As sons of the living God and “co-heirs with Christ” (Rom. 8:17) we have the right to pension Him in prayer (John 14:14). We have all the covenants, birthrights, and promises we can claim as ours with the rights and privileges they include. We also have the right to lose and bind as found in:

      "Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.

      “Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven.” Matt. 18:18-19

      Yes, God reserves His right as Sovereign over all, but He still grants us these rights as Christians and as applicable, as immortal beings “created in His image”. So it is incorrect to say we do not have rights. We truly do, have rights as I have shown above and as our Founding Fathers intended. I do not indorse the current state of our nation, but the foundation of this country was true.

      The argument of inalienable rights vs. duties and responsibilities is both false and hollow. It is solely based on the straw man that rights are optional while these God given duties and responsibilities are not optional. One; this concept would nullify the well excepted Christian doctrine of Freewill. God is not going to tie us up and drag us screaming into heaven. Each day we must make a choice whether to obey God or not. Over and over in the Bible God has said “choose this day whom you will serve” (Josh. 24:14-15). Second; those who espouse this idea put forth no scripture showing the concept of inalienable rights as being unbiblical. Third; the very scripture they put forth refutes their own argument. Rightly they say they show us our God given duties and responsibilities, but it is in these very scriptures that we are granted our inalienable rights,

      Additionally if we come together to pool our resources in order to fulfill our obligations such as to provide safety and protection through our local police, militia, and neighborhood watch. If these were to became so proficent as to lower the crime rate to Mayberry standards. Then gun fatalities are primarily accidental shootings the question will be asked why are we allowing such deaths, it is irresponsible to have private gun ownership. At this point what argument do you have, since your duties and responsibilities have and are being fulfilled? None. But thankfully God did not set things up this way, for all institutions whether government, public or private, are made with men's imperfect minds and hands. Thus they will succumb to corruption and the use of tyranny, no matter how much scriptures they codify into their laws. The only safe guard for society, for our liberty, prosperity, and welfare, is that citizen practice their inalienable rights in fulfillment of their God given duties and responsibilities in accordance with their convictions of faith in Jesus Christ and nothing else save for God above.

      “Rights” as in such as those recognized and guaranteed in the Bill of Rights are real and Biblical in our horizontal relationship with men. These are God given, inalienable rights granted by the duties and responsibilities God has given us in Scripture. Some examples are Gen. 1:26 were we are given dominion over the earth and all that is in it and “But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” (1st Tim. 5:8). Providing means such things as security, food, shelter, etc, so from these passages we see our right to self defense and to bear arms, property rights and security of property etc. Everyone of our true rights can be found in Scripture like this.

      Before God, in our vertical relationship what we call “rights” are necessary parts of duties and responsibilities He has given us. Yet before Him, we do have rights, but a different type of rights. As sons of the living God and “co-heirs with Christ” (Rom. 8:17) we have the right to pension Him in prayer (John 14:14). We have all the covenants, birthrights, and promises we can claim as ours with the rights and privileges they include. We also have the right to lose and bind as found in:

      "Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.

      “Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven.” Matt. 18:18-19

      Yes, God reserves His right as Sovereign over all, but He still grants us these rights as Christians and as applicable, as immortal beings “created in His image”. So it is incorrect to say we do not have rights. We truly do, have rights as I have shown above and as our Founding Fathers intended. I do not indorse the current state of our nation, but the foundation of this country was true.

  • melissasmom

    I grew up playing with toy guns. I suppose that makes me violent. Not at all, but don't touch my kids.

  • Bulldog74

    Silly me, and I thought pastors were supposed to be about preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

  • http://www.facebook.com/allen.evans2 Allen Evans

    How many of us had toy guns as kids ? This Pastor has some mental problems . They get in a position and it goes to their heads and they think they know it all . There really are quite a few disfunctional people in the Ministry that really don't belong thre . I have been been church all my life and watched it all . To many holier than everybody's in Church who eventually fall or you find out what they really are eventually . It is no wonder people are turning away from church . For most Pastors it is all about the money and how much money they can fleece the flock out of .I was in a Church and the association had a lot of gay pastors in it and some of their sons , boy was there a scandal there, even my pastor was gay ( he fooled me ) . I told my Pastor about some of the pastors are gay he would deny it .Thats because he was . The pastors wives are a clue too .

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

    Some one should tell this moron that kids would be better off trained as soon as they can realize that a squirt gun is not the same as a .44 mag. From Knowledge the Power of Decision

  • Harold

    Insanity seems to be increaseing in the U.S. It is either in the water, or it is brain washing!

  • Brian Boru

    "Avowed atheists are not a tenth as dangerous as those preachers who scatter doubt and stab at faith."
    --Charles Spurgeon