Federal Employees Spent 3.4 Million Hours Working for Unions

Not only are we being taxed to death and spent into financial oblivion, but now we are paying Federal workers to spend time working for unions. As we all know, unions are in the pocket of the Democrats.

The Democrats make concessions to the unions. The unions collect forced dues from union workers. Those fees are used to support Democrat candidates. If you want to know what the fuss was about in Wisconsin, it was this sort of back-room dealing that the unions did not want to stop. The reason the unions and the Democrats ganged up on Scott Walker was because he threatened to put an end to this sweetheart deal.

The Office of Personnel Management released its annual Labor-Management Relations: Reports of Official Time. It shows that government workers spend some of their time on the job working for increased union power. This is illegal. It’s called stealing.

So instead of only being paid for the job they were hired to do, they use a portion of their time promoting union goals that end up costing taxpayers money. Some of the “official time” is “time spent by Federal employees performing representational work for a bargaining unit in lieu of their regularly assigned work.” In other words, Federal union workers spend time on the job doing union work instead of the job they were hired to do.

The law states that Federal union workers are forbidden to strike. To get around this prohibition, they take time from their jobs that you and I pay for with confiscated money and use it for union activities that empower elected officials to take additional money from us to empower unions. “It’s a mad house. A mad house!”

"During FY 2011, unions represented 1,202,733 non-Postal Federal civil service bargaining unit employees, an increase of 17,048 bargaining unit employees compared to FY 2010. Agencies reported that bargaining unit employees spent a total of 3,395,187 hours performing representational duties on official time, an increase of 9.66 percent compared to FY 2010. Government-wide, the number of official time hours used per bargaining unit employee on representational matters increased from 2.61 hours in FY 2010 to 2.82 hours during FY 2011."

If this type of activity went on in a private business, the employees would be fired.

Don’t think this has only been going on since Obama took office. As expected, the activity has increased under his tenure as president. State and federal union workers have been subverting politics for a long time. And why not? For every person they help get elected, their union power increases and the coffers of the Democrats are enlarged.

It’s time some legal entity takes up this cause to put a stop to it. Any takers? A case like this would anger the majority of Americans like it did in Wisconsin. We might even get some money back. 3.4 million hours times $15 per hour is a lot of money for the unions to have to pay back.



  • patriotusa2

    I agree with almost everything written in this article with the exception that I don't believe "the unions are in the pocket of the Democratic party." In my opinion, the Democratic party is in the pocket of the unions.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

      And with Trumka and Hoffa they make some of the DNC look intelligent.

      • gene1357

        I believe you mean Trumka. And let us not forget White House attack dog Andy Stern; Thug 'n Chief of the Pro Red China club, & former boss of the SEIU, aka Obama's campaign mobsters.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

          My bad.

      • http://www.facebook.com/isaac.pentlin Isaac Pentlin

        write me at wallpent@hotmail.com and explain to me that Hoffa is still alive.just chat.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

          His son is keeping up the family name. James P. Hoffa same job same corruption next generation.

      • 7papa7

        They are still a bunch of thugs that under an honest administration would probably be brought up on charges under the Rico standard. The problem is the white house has a thug in it and his administration are full of them.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

          Actually Trumka should be brought up on murder charges from his time with the United Mine workers

        • 7papa7

          I would agree. The head of most unions are hard core thugs and violence/murder is not beyond them.

    • Charlie


    • http://www.facebook.com/glenn.s.warne Glenn Stephen Warne

      The information about working for the union while on the clock is true. However that was put in the contract. The time is allocated to union time and not charged to produtivity. The union I belive is the USPS. At no time are tax dollars used to pay for this time. That is a complete ly! The hours that the union steward uses are paid for by the union that is why all union members pay dues. Also you are defended by the union even if you are not a union member. The Post Office is an open shop and unionmembership is not a requirment!!! The article about is a BIG Strech of the truth!!! Nobody will be getting any money back becasue it is the union member that is paying for the steward to do union time. As the Gop has a record of trying to downsize the P.O. iis it any wonder the union is pro Obama???
      Ever since the Post Office people went on strike against NIXON the Republicans have been aafter the Post Office.

      • http://www.facebook.com/barb.hunter.73 Barb Hunter

        Barb Hunter • 2 minutes ago
        Glenn Stephen Warne Sorry sir but I believe the article states "non-postal".
        During FY 2011, unions represented 1,202,733 non-Postal Federal civil service bargaining unit employees, an increase of 17,048 bargaining unit employees compared to FY 2010
        Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/9...

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KIWHMI7F72WDWGDVPREEL7FPDI Richard Holmes

        You are truly an idiot. If it had aything to do with the unions and/or obooboy it was paid for with tax money.

        • Jude O'Connor

          535 idiots we call representatives that need thousands of staff they appoint to do their job. Google (number of staff for congress) if you doubt me.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Glen-Thompson/1763182428 Glen Thompson

        Glenn Warne - You are a complete and total and utter idiot. The article specifically says "non postal". You are also the exact kind of total slacker worthless employee that the rest of us are disgusted with.

    • Richard Gibbard

      Either way, America loses.

    • 7papa7

      That should be grounds for firing. They are, as the article said, stealing from the tax payers. The tax payers should make a formal complaint and demand that these individuals be fired and forced to pay back the money they stole. This is just another of a myriad of reasons I despise unions. If the government had any brains they would break the unions. I know I know they are in their pocket. This is just another reason to make sure that the congress and white house are pro worker NOT pro union. Down with union thugs. Lets see 3.4 million hours at lets say an average of $20/hour would mean that tax payers paid $68 million dollars for work not done. That means that the federal government could fire an awful lot of people, 85000 employees, and get the same amount of work done. Sure glad to see that they can't find any waste in government. Let me at em and I will have a balanced budget by the time the next budget is do because I won't play politics I will just get the job done.

      • Jude O'Connor

        When you write your Congressman how many of the 23,000 staff do you think read your letter? (google, number of staff for congress)

        • 7papa7

          It doesn't matter how many read it. Congress has grounds for dismissal if they don't do their job for every minute they are on the clock. Start firing these clowns and watch how fast it will stop.

  • Doodlebug

    It's time that we find some "honest" people to look into the antics of big government starting in the states but especially in DC! I'm willing to bet that we could dig up much "misuse" of the tax dollar. The unions came in and trashed Madison, WI with first their protests and then to get the recall going which was a flop but still cost big bucks to carry out and the trashing of our Capitol, All which was started by the unions. The other thing I don't understand is, we've been yelling to audit the feds. We get absolutely no where with it. WHY???

  • http://www.facebook.com/aemoreira81 aemoreira81

    I'm going to go outside the box and blame the workers. For at least the past 35 years, the federal workforce has been "right to work" even in states where there isn't RTW for non-federal workers. Are workers completely unaware?

    • DrZarkov99

      You are so close to the source of the problem! Our society depends so heavily on the whims of the uneducated it's truly terrifying. Many people who start work in Federal employ are faced immediately with union propaganda, and never think to question if there's an alternative. Any attempt to educate the workforce is met with hostile response by union stewards paid to live in the midst of the workers. In fact, non-union people are pilloried for abuse of work standards if they spend any work hours educating their peers, while union stewards are paid without question, even if they spend a significant portion of their on the job hours promoting unions.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

    Time for all states to get right to work like here in Michigan. This state will go from 17% Unionized to about 2% Unionized in a very short time. Who wants to pay Union dues nobody. They will die off leaving both Trumka and Hoffa in a homeless shelter bankrupt(teamsters are in the red already) Then we can get rid of the Unions at a federal level.

    • NCBigmouth

      If Michigan can do it, so can the rest of the Union states, of course, they have to do something radical...elect a Republican governor otherwise Satan can throw snowballs before those states will revert to right to work states.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

        I dont know. Arkansas just did a over ride of their Demoncrat Governor with abortion. Maybe some are waking up.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000278644230 Kimberly Boldt

      Unfortunately, as a Michigander myself, right to work only applies to the private sector. Not public sector unions. The private unions have been diminishing for a while now in Michigan. What we need to get rid of are the public sector unions like SEIU. It's not "constitutional" to extort money from the people for their healthcare plans and pensions, and overly high salaries. Even FDR said having public unions in government was a bad idea because it's stealing money from "the people".

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

        Only Unions it does not effect are the Police and Firefighters. Everybody including the MEA is now fair game. That means teachers will soon be free

    • truepatriotintx

      We can only hope. There are still many people that benefit from unions and will fight for their existence. But I've always wondered how people feel about union stewards and leadership making so much money off of them. Don't they wonder why they drive such nice cars and have boats, etc.? Pisses me off to no end...

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

        I have been a Union Steward with 951 and was a VP of DTEU. Now for the difference. With UFCW 951 Potter made a huge salary and the people paid for it. DTEU all members went to work I made my gas money for meetings only same with the President. Unions lost when they became involved with the mob and the DNC and those from that point on had little or nothing to do with the people. Now DTEU charges two bucks a week they will probably survive. The UFCW, UAW and others will not because they dont relate to the membership.

  • noelle2013

    Federal employees DO NOT need to be members of unions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    this must be REVERSED NOW!

    • dicksi

      In a union in the private sector the union and employer negotiate terms. In a public sector, the employer (we the people) is not even at the table. It is no wonder that we have run-away salaries and cost in the public sector.

    • SSG_101_ABN

      Very true article, however not ALL Civil Servants joined the union. Some of us REFUSED to just like in the private sector...

  • joshuasweet

    I wish it was only $15.00 dollars per hour that they are getting paid. Just look at their salaries and benefits it is bound to be far more than just $15.00 dollars per hour we would be getting off easy like they are.

    • elmcqueen3

      Many have jobs but there's no work coming or going out of their offices...This leaves them with all kinds of time to do union work...You don't suppose they were assigned these positions purposely do you?

      • joshuasweet

        if it is anything like "$18,000 per week necessary to retain the seven staff members who
        facilitate citizens’ enjoying self-guided tours around the White House." that is over $2,571.42 per week, or the calligraphers ($277,050 per year for the trio) which is $69,262.50 per month or chief of staff to the president’s dog ($102,000 per year) which is $8500 per month or nearly $250 per day.

    • http://www.facebook.com/james.b.smith.716 James B. Smith

      Just double the $15/hr and you would be closer.

    • truepatriotintx

      Also, knowing how these slugs operate, they are probably getting OT for this, so it's time and a half or even double-time, depending on the situation. They don't care, it's not their money, until it's in their pocket, that is.

  • http://twitter.com/AuctionRay Ray Miller

    Scott Walker did a service to Wisconsin, wish he could do it for the rest of the country. Impeach and fire. Conflict of interest I would think.

    • tionico

      will there be enough people nationwide to elect him president, so he can do the same for the rest of us who have state governments too wimpy to do it for us? THAT might be a fun question to explore.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

      Yep. In NJ you have the Governor being supplied with money by Unions and he also drives the contracts. The mob is better run and more honest.

    • http://www.facebook.com/glenn.s.warne Glenn Stephen Warne

      I agree, then we can bring all the leftist rable that are tired of the rich that own everything!!! we will start with burning down the rich peoples houses and taking over the government. Oh!! wait O'Bama Has already started that. All you tradesmen can stop working and the idiots that do not know anything can have those jobs that do not pay! I know they don'tcut the police or firemen's saleries!Heck , I really do not care about what goes on I am retired and you can leave me along.

  • foxxybey

    patriotusa2; I agree, this nation is sick and the unions are as bad as any evil amongest us. I worked for many and they teach those who belong to screw the company when ever possible and wonder why no jobs, they destroy more then any, a bunch of sick people as bad as the welfare state, give me, give me and if I screw you and close you down? Your the problem, no greed on our side, only on your side, a bunch of commie idiots who bring down a nation, look at GM, they have made a deal with China anyone would love, even if China wants to control us, says all we need to see when commie's control a company, wouldn't own or buy another commie product, yea obozo, own them and they own us, your a idiot.

  • Charlie

    Have always stated that there should of never been any government servant allowed to join any union. If government workers want to be in a union then these workers should move to a soloistic country. The federal government has no business to be inn education( dept. of Education) the teachers union is the largest. Again there is absolutly no sound reason for there to be a union force tobe used by our servants in our government in our country. Shut these monsters(unions) down. While we are at cleaning house defund the UN and toss the UN out of our country.

    • gene1357

      Hmm, could not find "soloistic" in my Oxford English Dictionary. I thought I might be about to learn a new word...but no.

  • mike

    I was a teamster. Our shop steward worked his regular job and met with management after working hours. Officers of the local were paid by the members using dues collected.

  • Grtgrandpa

    Time for union activity is negotiated into the Labor-Managent Agreement contract between the federal unions and the government agencies. Basically, the employer and the union are married to each other by the contracts they share, each benefiting from one another. The government allowes the union employees to use their vacation time to schedule union activities where the local unions converge on a location selected by the national union such a marching in Washington D.C.. Representation of federal employees by shop steward union representatives in grievance proceedings are done on 'official time,' also negotiated into the contract by the bargaining unit employees. Usually one contract can cover several federal employers in different states, such as the Air Force Logistics Command, and the American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE). Local union presidents and other officers are often granted by contract to be at the union office 100% of their official time as a federal employee. Unions in the federal sector are usually represented by Labor Law Attorneys. Any federal employee can represent another federal employee in arbitration, and the Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB). Usually skilled and trained union stewards represent the union in cased argued against Lawyers who represent management. The Government themselves are responsible to negotiate less official time, and other "rights, and priviliges" enjoyed by the unions. The government has fed the unions over time, and now the unions are as powerful as the employer who hires them. In a odd sort of way, the government is responsible for the growth of the unions and their demanding rights to bargain.

  • George Wentzel

    Noooooooooooooo this can't be. Well, Unions and Democrats are equally disgusting so there you go.

  • dicksi

    Does it seem like it is something like this every day now.....an assault on our liberty and constitution. We need an easier means to identify where our money is spent. For example, elected officials should be required to wear uniforms like Nascar drivers...so we can identify their sponsors.

  • underthewire

    All public employees are and should be ...AT WILL EMPLOYEES.....with no quarantees to job security but only as needed. When public funds pay ones salary they have no rights to hold those paying it hostage.
    Their services are at the will of the payer, no exceptions.

    Side note.........did you notice how quick the TSA unionized?

  • http://profiles.google.com/mannasage Joe Severa

    This is not a secret, it's absurdly the truth, but what is being done about this theft of our taxes? How many of us have questioned our Congress folks about halting this crime? Yes, this is a felony, are you listening Pres. Obama? I've given up on our "out to lunch" Attorney General, he's a complete disgrace, & a lying racist as well.

  • Al Chemist

    I wonder at what point the Federal Employees (unions plus management) as well as those on the dole, will be taking such a large share of the wealth (from those who create it) that the whole system will collapse. We must be getting near it now.

  • barleywheets

    Federal Employees are one of the highest PAID unions in the US.. of course they are going to fight to keep the crime lords in business.

  • nancy miller

    Any and all government employees that are working for the unions on the people's time, should have their pay deducted for those hours.

  • The Duck

    Being a retired Civil employee I know for a fact that unions representing federal employees were paid tax dollar wages and salarys to rubber stamp what congress was willing to pay for. I did not have to belong to a union and did not. I received the same as every dues payer did. Fromwages to vacations to sick leave and retirement benefits. But yes taxpayers did and still do pay for a redundancy of representation. That does need to stop.

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.l.sherwood Michael L Sherwood

    To get a job, I have had to join the union. Unions are the death of the free labor force. If I do not wish to be a member of a union than I can not work for companies that have them intrenched. Unions suck!

  • tionico

    NO WAY are all those hours at ONLY fitfteen bucks each. Federal employees? $15/hr sould be minimum wage in almost anybsuch position. (another part of the problem). But two plus million HOURS at ANY wage is criminal. Yes, someone needs to grab this bull by the horns and wrassle him to a stop, then down and gone. Insane...... part of why we're upside down in our federal spending.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lou-Stennes/100001949730082 Lou Stennes

    The gov't doesn't care how many hours are wasted by union work during the work day. When was the last time the federal government cared about productivity? At least when they are working on union garbage their not harassing and bothering the rest of us.

  • Marine Mom

    Remember the Dwight Yoakam song where he lamented about how his union dues didn't save his job? The unions, long ago, outlived their initial program. Unions now are nothing but robbers.. If they save any jobs, it is only those that benefit the unions and their thuggery. My husband is union, and his job went that way years ago and seemed to benefit us. Now, it's just a big check thrown away each year. The unions thugs are dangerous men, and that's exactly what obooboo wants: to kill us with fear! Semper Fi

  • star2brite

    Perhaps a stupid question...if this type of behavior is not permitted, why is it being permitted? Is there some reason why these people aren't being fired? Do we really need to take this issue to court to get them fired?

  • 1PierreMontagne1

    The 3.4 million hours is understated by half.

    That many hours are annually provided on government time by "United Way " funding activity by unions at the Federal. State and municipal level. It is a complete sham that Union Employees doing practically nothing for weeks on end while ostensibly raising funds for "Charity" receive their full government salaries. They are raising funds during work hours for mostly socialist charities with disproportionately high Administrative overhead - not to mention funding rallies where employees turn out en mass for the cause - all on government time.

  • jvb1980808

    So when they were getting paid BY TAX PAYER MONEY they were working to insure THE TAX PAYER CONTINUED TO PAY THEM MORE AND MORE by WORKING FOR THE UNION. Sounds like an audit is due from top to bottom where the government and its workers are concerned. Unions are right there to make sure no one tampers with THEIR GOLDEN GOOSE but who is standing in for the GOLDEN GOOSE?

  • A Concerned American

    They should pass a law specifically denying federal workers to perform union duties while on duty. If they want to perform union duties, they can do it after hours or take annual leave. When a federal worker is gone from the workplace "goofing off" with union activities or any other non-duty function some other worker has to double up and do double duty-therir work and the one that is out.
    I've seen this happen when I was at a VA Hospital and about quitting time the union worker, Black History volunteer, Native Indian gathering folks waltz in their duty sections happy as a lark ready to go home since it's quitting time! Huge sums of money are wasted on these nonessential activities.

  • 1baronrichsnot1

    The democratic party(progressive communism) is in the pocket of any one who will pay them for favors rendered. It is the very thing G. Washington warned us about long ago, the parties will eventually become more important than the country and votes will be bought and sold as if it is a commodity. When it is realized that this can be done, the constitutional republic is doomed, by the sellers of the system.

  • dntmkmecomoverther

    Why is there even the possibility of unions in public works sectors? The whole ideal is simply ludicrous. From police, FD, Postal, even office personnel, it just does not make any fiscal sense whatsoever. And it's news like this that just festers the boils on the backs of hard working tax payers who have no sympathy nor patience left for SOBs like this. Unions and union members may be in for a real shock the next 2 yrs...I hope and pray they get shocked into reality.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Wolfman4u Wolfman Thomas

      I agree, No more public, federal, government labor unions as they are ruining our country

  • standtallall

    I am in the Post Office. It is a pseudo governmental organization which still has to answer to politicians and their appointed minions who do not have a clue on how to run a business. At one time we only had to break even. Then, we were obligated to show a profit and when we did, another politician raided said profit. As one of those heinous union leaders, I deliver mail and protect members within the grievance process from a management which thinks because they put on a tie, they became smarter. In actuality, they become more vicious and demanding as they forget how tough the job was when they were in craft. I stray from my point which is simply that because of the bullying and harassment that goes on each day, it the union could not do this work on the clock, it would be driven into "bankruptcy" in a very short time. If this was a normal job, management would step in and take a look at the thousands of dollars in lost time and grievance settlements and put a stop to it. This would mean that I would not be using so much time and the work would get done. Instead, the bad management continues to violate the contract and discipline carriers without just cause and keep the workroom floor one level above bedlam. All of which takes money out of the Postal budget. I would be quite happy delivering my route each day and not have to bang heads on the same violations.
    To say that because Federal union workers can't strike, they use "confiscated" money for union activities,
    is truly one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. As an Independent, I will be the first one to point out when a union is out of line. I will be as quick to point a finger at those who attack the men and women who bust their tails everyday under the most obnoxious conditions.

    • Pat C

      I have been at the Post Office for 28 years. The only point I will agree with you on is that management, for the most part, is not made up of our brightest employees. Many are former union stewards and officers. The rest are incompetent workers kicked up the ladder with the help of the union. The few good management persons we have must tolerate lazy, obnoxious employees and a union that condones and encourages such behavior, all for the wont of dues money. If you are a good, conscientious employee, the union has very little use for you, other than to post your name on a "scab" board. I have been bullied by the union for doing my job efficiently (read: "killing the job" - by not drawing it out to make it seem like we needed more people to perform the work).

      While the position of letter carrier has gotten more difficult in the last 10-15 years, that is due completely to the fact that the employees who were carriers years ago - who finished a route in 4 hours and spent the rest of their shifts in a bar or otherwise nonproductive - are now in management positions. Again, all union faithfuls who were perfectly content to screw the customer when it was to their benefit. And they are still taking care of number one, just now from a management position. That said, let's not overstate the difficulty of any job at the Post Office. I've worked on the outside and can tell you that we have it incredibly easy when compared to most. You can drop the 'Superman' persona. Very few come even close.

      As for your final paragraph, most Federal employees ARE paid with taxpayer monies and therefore union time is paid from such. The Postal Service, being quasi-government, is revenue generated, but not all monies are from postage sales. Taxpayers pitch in for franked mail, Mail for the Blind, BDS (biohazard detection) equipment and maintenance, and numerous other incentives/programs/ committees. Your reference to pre-funding retiree benefits fails to mention that we lost 4 billion dollars above and beyond the 5 billion we failed to pay into the fund in fiscal year 2012.

      For the record, I'm just a craft employee - not a fan of the union or management. Mostly, I just want to do right by the customer.

      • standtallall

        I don't know where to begin. I must assume that you are not in the union, yet enjoy the fruits of its' labor. The benefits we have over the years are the result of negotiations which are funded by union dues. I really don't have a problem with people who don't wish to be in the union, but I would like to see them pay a fee of some kind for partaking of the benefits and pay. I don't know where you work, but I am surrounded by mostly hardworking carriers. You will always have some who suck, but that is the human nature part of the job. It happens every where in every workplace and every job. If a carrier finished his route in 4 hours, there are several possibilities....One is as you point out sitting in a bar until it is time to go clock off. If he ran through his route and properly delivered his assignment, I would not think too badly of them, however, as a Branch president, I constantly tell my carriers the proper way to do this job. Follow the handbooks and contract and work in a safe manner. If you don't think that is the right answer and you think that is not in our patrons best interests, then I guess we will not ever agree. Like you I have worked on the outside and I have never been afraid to work hard...In the USPS I have learned that because of the dummies who rise to supervisory positions because they no longer wanted to bust their tails doing our job, this job has gotten that much harder. With every day comes some new rule or added responsibility...unfortunately, none of these things add any time to the route. (At least according to DOIS) I went out with 80 large to extra large parcels the other day and was told that I had 30 minutes undertime. My route exam number was average of 11 parcels for the week. I put a 3996 in and the battle began...I have forty years in and I know how to deal with idiots whether they be in management or the union. It is too bad many find themselves intimidated and end up running or messing up deliveries...Major problem. I can't speak for the Union you refer to, since I have not seen very much of what you covered in your statement. We fight for what we are entitled to and when management disciplines a carrier properly for something that they have done wrong, I have no case. They continue..they are gone. My stewards and myself have won thousands of dollars because of management trying to avoid the contract. Am I happy about that? No I am angry that they are allowed to continue doing the same stupid violations and no one kicks them out. meanwhile your leave a sleeper and they are trying to remove you. Sorry for the rant. But I always get suspicious of people who pat themselves on the back while demonizing most of the other workers. ("if you are a good conscientious employee...") Sounded a lot like you. Best of luck and work safe!

        • Pat C

          I am not in the union, but have been in the past. Many of the "benefits" you think I should be grateful for, I neither supported nor wanted. I have no issue with paying for most if not all of my healthcare (or other benefits, for that matter). I did not support FMLA, because it did exactly as I expected it would - give those who burn through both their sick time and their vacation time an additional 12 weeks off, which usually needs to be covered by overtime. The problems FMLA was instituted to prevent were infinitesimal compared to the waste and fraud that is the solution. I would do my job for significantly less, as I am overpaid for the amount of skill I bring to the job, and I would definitely settle for less vacation time. There are myriad redundant safety programs - many now mandated by government, but originally championed by unions/democrats without a care for how fiscally taxing such programs would be to business.

          Postal Service aside, pretty much every union business in a 100 mile radius has been shut down - due to unsustainable labors costs and overregulation (again, almost all championed by unions and Democrats). Unions have killed manufacturing in this country on a large scale basis. You may argue that it was all "negotiated", but I disagree. Private sector unions "bullied" businesses with threats of slowdowns and strikes. Public unions entered into perverse relationships with politicians, exchanging votes for benefits and vice versa - while the taxpayer/consumer was never represented.

          I believe I actually agreed that the carriers have it much harder now than before. I would say at this point that they are held more accountable than any other position. I didn't really argue that, but rather recognized how it came to be like this. If you've been carrying 40 years, you surely saw some of that behavior - and you know where those same employees are now. Not an unexpected result. Since you are in a station, I suspect you probably have seen much less of the situations I have witnessed.

          I do not expect employees to run their routes or work unsafely. I merely expect a fair days' work. Ultimately, I am a consumer first and a PO worker much further down the line. When I am a consumer, I want every product or service I purchase to be the best value for my purchasing dollar. Our customers deserve no less.

        • standtallall

          For the most part, we are on the same page. A fair days work for a fair days pay is my motto and I bring it up constantly. The idea of customer service is very important however, although I do know of some carriers who don't really take that thought to heart, it is the USPS which does not allow us to provide the type of service we are capable of. They delay mailings, parcels, etc to meet ridiculous guidelines handed down to them from someone higher in the organization. With regard to your statement on benefits which have been won by the Union I was referring to pay increase, cola, and various other benefits which I am sure you were not against. I live in NY. It would be nice to live in another state were the buying power is better but that is my choice. Sometimes the raises don't quite cut it, but we have rarely given back in a negotiation aside from arbitration decision. I think that is important. As far as FMLA is concerned, it is a Federal program and like any other program, is subject to fraud and game playing. Everyone has to answer to their own conscience and some are better able to ignore it. Well I have to go and do some grievances. Eleven discipline letters issued for some really stupid reasons. Good luck and it was pleasure to talk to you. Paul A.

  • http://www.facebook.com/isaac.pentlin Isaac Pentlin

    What other evils are there for a centralization of unions that would cause gung ho union employees to support democrats? Unions force their employees to vote for Democrats including Hollywood- sag/aftra. Now it is suspected that teachers are forcing students to vote for Democrats thru extortion of grades..

    • Don39

      It is more than suspected in most liberal districts.

  • danclamage

    $15/hr? More like $45/hr on average.
    Make a law forbidding politicians from entering into any legal contract with anyone who has donated to their election campaigns. That'll put the brakes on this Democrat embezzlement scheme.

  • LittleMoose

    If the average government salary is $60,000, this would mean that the Federal government is contributing over $98M to the unions. I don't think my taxes should be used to give dues to the unions; I don't get any benefit from this work.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000278644230 Kimberly Boldt

      Actually, that's state employees average, and the average for a federal employee is around $100,000 a year. Both get a nearly-fully paid health care plan and life-time funded pension. Some, like my uncle are retiring on $1-2 MILLION dollar pensions!!!!!! paid for by you and me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000278644230 Kimberly Boldt

    Good article, Gary. May I add that between state and federal employees there are approximately 24 million. You add in the average public employee salary which is around $65,000 a year for state employees and around $100,000 a year for federal employees, their health care plans, AND ridiculously high life-time pension plans and you have close to $2.5 TRILLION dollars that WE are paying out to keep these parasites in their nice, cushy, lifestyles. Any business will tell you that labor costs are approximately 70-80% of the cost of running a business. Gee, I know where to "cut" government expenses now. In Michigan alone, we have close to 400,000 public employees. Why do we need so many? What the heck do they all do? The Democrats promise "jobs", then they create more useless government jobs in the public sector, because that's all they know how to do. Then the unions extort more money from taxpayers. Some of the union leaders in Michigan are making $500,000 a YEAR! This should outrage EVERYONE! Not only do they extort the money from the taxpayers, but they use our own money against us in elections, law suits, and protests of which they are involved in the malicious destruction of property and sometimes injury to people! (I grew up in union family. I have first-hand knowledge and experience of their thinking and tactics.)

    • Don39

      YOU ARE RIGHT ON and I to have the first hand experience and observation!

  • ketrout

    This is pure MADNESS! It is way past the time for us to rise up and take back our government and to put a STOP to this kind of madness.


    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000278644230 Kimberly Boldt

      Because the average sheeple voter is immoral, ignorant, apathetic, and lazy. Therefore, the average Senator or Representative is the same. They are a cross-section of the voters.

  • Chuck

    Thanks for verifting what most taxpayers already suspected. The majority of the embedded bureaucracy in DC is Democrat. There are very few registered Republicans. Unions control the government with unlimited cash, threats, and thuggery. They have worked their way into the White House and now sit at the highest level of government, Sixty million voters aproved of our Muslim President and his corrupt government cronies.

  • http://www.facebook.com/barb.hunter.73 Barb Hunter

    Glenn Stephen Warne Sorry sir but I believe the article states "non-postal".

    During FY 2011, unions represented 1,202,733 non-Postal Federal civil service bargaining unit employees, an increase of 17,048 bargaining unit employees compared to FY 2010

    Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/9822/federal-employees-spent-3-4-million-hours-working-for-unions/#ixzz2NHRGBRqK

  • gfsomsel

    Wouldn't this also be a Hatch act violation?

    • Gabriel_777

      No. Hatch act only prevents federal employees from running for office.

  • truepatriotintx

    We need to change the campaign finance laws so unions are left out, plain & simple. There should be a $5000 limit to any campaign, irregardless of what type of donor it is. This would stop this in its tracks.
    There should also never have been anything like a "federal union" to ever exist! How do we, as management, have our say in negotiations? How many of us would even agree to this union being in existence in the first place? This is outright theft.

  • Indiana Conservative

    Absolute power corrupts and this is sickening.

  • Brabado

    ...while George Soros' boy in the White House, closes its doors to American Families and their children.

    Congratulations to all Liberal and Socialists Obamites who voted for this hypocrite!

    Now, we all have to live with it.


  • ARMYOF69

    Those who receive any monies from any parts of our government other than veterans, and SS folk, should not be allowed to vote....THAT'S ALL FOLKS. Maybe , then we can have America back on its feet, otherwise we're sunk.

  • MIKE6080

    deduct it from their paychecks,

  • oldurkey

    I posted the article on Facebook and got the following response. Can anyone shoot holes in it with verifiable facts? I don't want to get involved in an argument over something I don't know a whole lot about. I thought ALL union members paid dues!

    is a thing called labor law in this country and if what the writer
    alleges was actually happening, federal management would have in fact
    been able (and willing!) to do away with the unions a long time ago.The
    article contains general bias and
    distortion merely by way of the fact that the author can rely on an
    audience disposed to agree wth his every word. He therefore has become
    intellectually lazy and fails to undertake the obviously fair thing to
    do - to dig deep enough to verify or disprove his own prejudices. The
    first thing he does is to say that the employees spend time "working for
    unions". He does not tell us the names of the unions, leaving the
    reader to presume they could be working for the Teamsters, UMW, or
    whoever they choose, although they can only be members of one union. He
    then includes a flat out wrong assertion that the "unions collect
    forced dues from union workers." It would take less than a minute's
    Internet search to learn the truth that federal employees are NOT
    compelled to pay union dues and that the vast majority of employees do
    not choose to pay union dues. (Moreover, the unions are forced to
    represent ALL employees in the bargaining unit, whether they pay dues or
    not. Pretty funny, don't you think?) Then, the dude said that the union
    spends its official time "working for increased union power", implying
    that the employees are being paid for engaging in political activity.
    That is patently false. At least he was objective enough to include
    reference to the OPM report on union activity. If he had bothered to
    read it, he would know that the report breaks down all the various uses
    of the official time used, the vast, vast majority of which is spent
    representing individual employees before management. BUT, that wouldn't
    get his readers all fired up and doing the "taxpayer dollars
    freakout"....the guy is just rabble-rousing and trouble-making.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KIWHMI7F72WDWGDVPREEL7FPDI Richard Holmes

    oblackboy had them do it for him. They scratch each other's back.

  • Don39

    Unions are corrupt leftist sociocommunist thug organization and should be outlawed for all government employees and all the rest prosecuted for RICO violation and reigned in severely. But that will never happen before the revolution!

  • gypsy314

    Why is no one in jail?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003946182747 Mildred Fischer

    Aren't union members smart enough to figure out they are being ripped off and enslaved by the unions.

  • Jude O'Connor

    There are 1300 federal agencies funded by our tax dollars that produce "ZERO" products that are taxable except their paychecks. For fun Google (list of federal agencies) You'll laugh and you will cry when you read them all.

  • Richard Gibbard

    Outlaw labor unions.

  • libsRpedos

    These union slugs spend there days on the Internet blogging and
    commenting, attacking conservatives and promoting dems instead of working. Then
    they complain they need more help to do the job they are not doing!

  • Gabriel_777

    I had the unfortunate pleasure (?) of having the Union president work for me at an Army base in KY. The man was hardly ever at his regular job, and spent hours in the union hall doing what, I don't know. When I tried to force him to account for his time, all hell broke loose. I was harassed with complaint after complaint, even though I had the law on my side. The grievance went forward to the base commander, and under pressure from the Union and politicians that supported the union, the Army dropped the case. That gave the man free reign to do whatever he damned well pleased all on Government time. It sickens me to see what they get away with, and how some Management just turns their head and looks the other way.

  • Don Ocke

    I don't think government union workers would really "WORK" for any reason, I do believe they put in that much time for the union.

  • Jude O'Connor

    If you remember the Wisconsin damage to the State Buildings by the unions was in the millions and were the unions charged for the damages? NO! The taxpayers were the ones that payed for the damages. Why didn't the Governor bill the unions?