Planned Parenthood Patient Torture Leads to Huge Lawsuit

Planned Parenthood receives around $540 million a year of taxpayer money.  Supposedly, the majority of those funds are to be used for family-planning and women’s health, but Alliance Defending Freedom believes their primary focus is meeting their ever increasing quota of abortions.  In fact, they are so focused on meeting their abortion quotas that they are placing the health and lives of the women who turn to them in jeopardy.

One of the main arguments made in the infamous Roe v. Wade decision is that by making abortion legal, it would reduce the incidence of botched back-alley abortions.  Legalizing abortion would make undergoing an abortion much safer for the woman.  From the growing list of reports, it seems the only thing it’s done is move the back-alley butchers into Planned Parenthood clinics paid for with our tax dollars and into other abortion clinics around the country.

Now we need to add Ayanna Byer to the list of women who have been tortured and nearly died as a result of a botched abortion and inferior medical treatment and according to their website:

“Alliance Defending Freedom is moving on a broad legal front to expose the true nature and fraudulent business practices of Planned Parenthood.”

Byer, 40, went to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs to have an abortion.  The staff promised her that she would have an IV anesthesia, but when they were unable to find the equipment, Byer changed her mind about getting the abortion.  Undaunted by the minor setback, the staff at the clinic decided to proceed with the abortion without providing any anesthesia to Byer even though Byer continued to protest against it.

Byer lay on the table wide awake and fully aware of everything happening around her and inside of her.  She said the procedure was incredibly painful.  When it was over with, the doctor sent her home.

Two days later, Byer was taken to an emergency room because of the botched abortion.  According to an ER doctor that treated her:

“[Byer] was septic with a high fever and elevated white count.  She required an immediate high-risk surgery to remove the remaining tissue that had been left during the previous procedure done at Planned Parenthood. Because of the continued pain and heavy bleeding, I was concerned that the patient might have had an ectopic pregnancy. I called Planned Parenthood the following day to inquire about pathology results, only to learn that no pathology is done on abortion patients. The doctor performing the abortion ‘looks’ at the tissue and makes a diagnosis.”

“It is medically inappropriate for a physician to remove products of conception and not confirm the diagnosis with pathology.  I know of no physician or hospital that would allow the removal of a specimen of this nature and assume what the diagnosis was by just ‘looking’ at it. It is not acceptable to refer your patients to the Emergency Department and assume the on-call doctor will take care of any complications and assume all the risk associated with the complications.”

On behalf of Ayanna Byer, Doug Romero, an Alliance Defending Freedom Allied Attorney from Denver has filed a lawsuit against Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains.  Commenting on the lawsuit, Romero said:

“A woman’s life is more important than Planned Parenthood’s bottom line.  What Planned Parenthood did to Ayanna is beyond the pale. They clearly put her through extraordinary cruelty and jeopardized her life. Their actions were intolerable.”

Michael J. Norton, Senior Counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom is a former US attorney for the Colorado district.  He also helped author the ADF report to the US House of Representatives that outlined the fraudulent use of taxpayer funds by Planned Parenthood and their affiliates.  Commenting on the case involving Byer, he said:

“American tax dollars should be used responsibly and for the common good. Planned Parenthood is irresponsible and only promotes its own self-interest. That was clearly seen in what they did to Ayanna.”

Like I said, Roe v. Wade moved the back-alley butchers into the Planned Parenthood and other clinics under guise of being legal and safe.  If you don’t believe this to be true, then ask yourself why a number of doctors who work for Planned Parenthood don’t have hospital admitting privileges?  Read through some of the links above and you will see that’s more common than you realize.  The last remaining abortion clinic in Mississippi is facing closure because none of their doctors have hospital admitting privileges.

We need to support Alliance Defending Freedom with our prayers as they tackle the giant baby-killer machine known as Planned Parenthood.  Their lawsuit isn’t just about Ayanna Byers, but about the horrific practices they use in killing babies and torturing women, sometimes onto death.  Planned Parenthood has the backing of a huge liberal organization that prides itself on killing helpless unborn children, the Democratic Party and President Obama.  This could be a bloody knock-down drag-out legal battle, but with our prayers and support, ADF can, and should, come out the victor and deal a lethal blow to Planned Parenthood.


  • NewCreationDave

    No one who knows God unto salvation needs any convincing that abortion is murder. God is the Author of life - and life begins at conception. And actually, the initial conception is in the mind of God before the foundation of the world!

    • John

      What if you don't believe in God? You know that there is freedom of religion in America, right?

      • NewCreationDave

        Reading fundamentals teach us to read what's written, not what isn't - nor what we choose to ascribe to it. It's exegesis versus eisegesis. You read what I wrote and went way off the plantation!

      • TheBitterClinger1

        Yes there is freedom of religion in America and you can explain yourself in front of the Judgement Seat. In the meantime and here on earth abortion is murder and we will fight it. Now what if I do not feel rape, robbery or extortion is wrong--will you give me a bye? Will you hold my coat? Or are some murders worse than others?

        • warpmine

          That's the exact argument against the God inspired constitution. If you don't believe in God that's just fine but your rights exist as the government dictates and as for the rest of us that do, the government is charged with defending those rights.

          The law breaker and chief, Barak Obamakov, conveniently shirks the constitution the same way all liberals want to so when they kick it to the curb, don't have a cow when someone like myself decides to evoke a new moralit based upon my perceptions meaning....your life is meaningless and if I desire to end it, I will.

      • Leeannm

        No matter if you believe in God or not, human life is created with pregnancy and it will continue to live unless someone interrupts that process by abortion. It is going to be a person if no one destroys it. That is a person, a HE or SHE and deserves a chance at life.

        • John

          So, tell me, where would we put the 1.2 million kids?

        • SJvet

          You wouldn't put them anywhere, because of your selfishness. We would put them wherever they best succeeded, and maybe one of them would figure out a cure for cancer or some other disease.

        • John

          "We would put them wherever they best succeeded"

          What does that mean? A large majority of abortions happen because the families don't have the money for another child. So where would you put them? Who would pay for them?

        • brazuca

          So, if you lost your job and the money dried up you'd be OK with killing one of your kids or even your wife? Your thoughts not mine.

        • John

          No, those are your disturbed thoughts. Please keep them to yourself.

        • http://www.facebook.com/RoLThompson Rosanne Lavin Thompson

          John, you need to keep your disturbing thoughts to yourself..you a grown man with free time to spend here trying to haunt us....we will pray for you...no matter your thoughts, words and deeds...if you don't repent, you will hear the words we sharing with you over and over again after you are gone ...we will prevail as it is written in the BIble...God Bless

        • DontTreadOnMe11

          Not to sure about the "grown man" part.

        • Clint

          Roseanne, please see mu post that I wrote to SJvet, Praying for this person is all we can do until he comes to that crisis point and sees the need for God. He must be a miserable, unhappy person. I jokingly said that he probably has no mirrors in his house for fear of what he will see. The truth is God already sees the condition he is in, and it ain't pretty. I am going to pray for him that he meets the Lord Jesus/Yeshua before he passes from this life, because there is a judgment he will kneel before. Christians will kneel before Jesus at His judgment. God Bless.

        • John OMalia

          Your cavalier attitude about taking life bothers me. You never bothered to answer to the statement about adoption because you can't. Let's kill the kid because of the financial strain. After all we can't be inconvenienced.

        • Ann Rand

          Stop doing meth and get a job..Turn your free cell phone and food stamps.... YOU TROLL...

        • RubyBlu

          He doesn't have children - too selfish!

        • RubyBlu

          Adoption - I know many childless couples who would love to adopt them.

        • GramE

          Where did you get the information that FAMILIES who couldn't afford another child were the majority of those seeking abortion? I don't think you are correct.

        • John
        • GramE

          Your site doesn't say FAMILIES. It refers to women only.

        • John

          Your point being?

        • GramE

          You are, as most Liberals, making your own facts. Women is not family. You cannot substitute the word family for the word women. That is twisting a fact.

        • John

          You are right, that was misleading, my apologies.

        • DontTreadOnMe11

          When my kids were born, I couldn't afford them either. I worked 2 and 3 jobs to support them.

        • John

          So you could afford them. Some people can not.

        • Ann Rand

          TrOLL.... Having fun riling up the people , eh, John ?

        • Clint

          I wouldn't waste my time with J..., because he loves to argue and has no, I repeat, no common sense and logic. I wonder how he would react if he were the one sticking the scissors into the base of the head of the fully formed baby, severing the spine and making the hole big enough so the brain can be vacuumed out as so much waste, all while the helpless human baby struggles to defend itself. The abortionist/murderer gets away with this murder because technically the baby is still inside the mother because the top of the head is partially inside the birth canal. Not only is the abortionist a murderer, he or she is also a coward and liar.

        • BrassRing

          We could eliminate pro choice atheists to make room, just call it a very late term abortion of the unwanted and useless.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phil-Bronner/100001112435407 Phil Bronner

          Yeahh, it's actually called "retroactive abortion".....LOL

        • Truth goes 100 MPH

          Thank you. I have been saying that for years but it is finally catching on. John is an unhappy little boy.

        • 7papa7

          Some people sure make you wish that birth control could be retroactive.

        • jas1019

          Have you seen how many people are looking to adopt? Americans have to go to other countries to get a baby. How about starting there.

        • John

          Yes, roughly 136,000 were adopted in 2008.

          Here are more facts for ya:

          The NSFG found the following results among those currently
          seeking to adopt in 2002 (Jones, 2008):

          At the time of the survey, 1.6 percent of women, including 2.0
          percent of ever-married women, were seeking to adopt.

          Hispanic women and Black women were more likely to be
          seeking to adopt than White women.

          Three-quarters of women seeking to adopt had impaired
          fecundity or were infertile.

          The goal of the National Foster Care Adoption Attitudes Survey
          of 1,660 American adults was to capture detailed information
          about what Americans think and believe about adoption in
          general as well as specific types of adoption (Harris, 2007). The
          findings reveal that, of the 30 percent of Americans who had
          ever considered or were considering adoption:

          More than 20 percent had considered adoption “very
          seriously.”

          The greatest percentage (71 percent) had considered
          adopting from foster care. In contrast, 63 percent had
          considered adopting an infant domestically; 40 percent had
          considered intercountry adoption.

          Having family or friends who were adopted tended to
          increase consideration of adoption

          People don't have to go to other countries to adopt, these choose to, as this survey tells you, among other interesting facts.

        • foxxybey

          Would be a lot more if not for the nazi baby hating government and their red tape.

        • abrayoungham

          Your "logic" indicates you believe that humans are a net negative on the economy. This is not the case. Sure, babies cost money and require labor, but they cause beneficial economic effects, and particularly when they age, they get more and more valuable. I don't think you have a habit of thinking things out logically, it appears you have your agenda that you want to put your faith into, your own human reasoning, will lead you astray. You are in the grip of an evil philosophy.

        • John

          I don't think you understand the point that some people CAN NOT afford another child. As in even if they worked all their waking hours and got support elsewhere, they can't do it. Do you understand?

        • abrayoungham

          That is not an issue at all, quite irrelevant. Animals "can't afford" to have offspring, yet they do. Human life is not an economic equation. Since there is no God, then it makes little difference what your opinion or my opinion is, about economics or anything else. Turn your question around on yourself, hypocrite. You ask about "who decides what is just, you?" And make it" who decides what is affordable, YOU?" You are ridiculously two faced.

        • abrayoungham

          Where would "we" put them? Asking that question is equivalent to asking, what do we do with the survivors of the Titanic? Since the majority of abortion is on black babies, its equivalent to saying, Slaves are of little worth unless my pocketbook is large enough. It's a very selfish, twisted, insane and small minded question. It's not even very logical. It presupposes that you have any authority to put anyone anywhere. It's not up to you. That's what protection of individual rights is all about. You, the living, abusing the rights of the unborn to attain what you have taken for granted. You need to repent, and you need to turn your life around. God will hold you responsible for your contribution to the insanity that is abortion.

        • John

          You make absolutely no sense. You still haven't answered what we would do with 1.2 million children that would be alive if abortions were illegal.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Evans/1832124270 Donald Evans

          Since the questions suits you so well, how about you answer your own question, short of murder that is.

        • Al Chemist

          If we can make room for 12 million illegal aliens (I think that number is actually low), surely we can find room for 1.2 million babies.

        • John

          Except the 12 million undocumented migrants are already living in the US, the 1.2 million babies are not.

        • RubyBlu

          Perhaps those 'undocumented migrants' can migrate back from whence they came and populate their country.....we'd have plenty of room for the 1.2 million babies.

        • John

          Tell it to the American businesses that hire them. They wouldn't be here if American businesses weren't exploiting them for cheap labor.

        • ezekiel22

          and the dems for the votes and the dems for the campaign cash.

        • abrayoungham

          There are so many logical fallacies in your statement, I will not address them all. Businesses don't exploit cheap labor any more than you exploit cheap cigarrettes. The free market is inherently fair. Only when the central authorities intervene to fix prices above the market clearing rate do things get exploited. As it is, the central planners have exploited millions of American's right out of employment, with federal regualtions.

        • DJC_46

          We would raise them as we do with the children we permit to live.

        • DontTreadOnMe11

          He/she makes perfect sense, you just choose to ignore it.

        • abrayoungham

          "I" make no sense? You are the one attempting to justify murder based upon money. You have no standing to pronounce death upon anyone, much less the unborn. In legal terms, you have no say in the matter. But you shall speak anyway, and remember that when you stand in front of the judgment bar of God, to be judged about your actions in mortality, that I tried to talk sense to you, but you were a man on a mission, seeking not only to destroy morality and life, but your own salvation.

        • John

          Actually, in legal terms, check Roe v Wade. I don't believe in your god, so spare me please.

        • abrayoungham

          Non sequitur. An unjust law is no law at all.

          It makes ab solutely no difference whether you believe in "my" god or not, we were discussing the Constitution, not religion. And the principles of the Declaration of Independence ensure that life, is held sacred and sacrosanct.

          As an aside, you are still going to be judged of God as to your works, and your eternal salvation will be predicated upon how well you qualify. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. But if you reject God, then don't be surprised when He allows you to become captive, and allows you to become subject to the worldly powers of evil men. You can see this happening right in front of your eyes. Let him that has eyes to see and ears to hear, both see, and hear. Ultimately, to understand.

        • John

          And who decides if they are just, you?

        • abrayoungham

          What does that matter, "who" decides anything? In your worldview there is no god, so, why do you ask?

        • John

          People decide.

        • abrayoungham

          " I don't believe in your god, so spare me please."

          I have spared you. I just wonder, if God will spare you after providing you witnesses as to His existence. Remember how many times the Isrealites were led captive by foreign nations? How many times did the Lord implore them to turn to the truth, and live, and they did not heed Him? Do you recall the miracles in the Bible, turning water into wine, walking on water, healing the lame and the blind, raising the dead. After all these witnesses, do you think you have recourse to your atheism as justification for a life unapproved of the Lord? Do you think you have access to His goodness, His salvation, His Deliverance, after you turn a blind eye to Him? He is after all, a just and fair God. You may run, but you cannot hide from Him. His justice will prevail after the justice of men turns to ashes and dust. Who are you going to put your faith in, if not God? Yourself? Your leaders? Your "logic"? Your "laws"? How's that been working for you?

        • John

          It's been working great.

        • abrayoungham

          You strike me as the sort of gent who would cut off his nose to spite his own face, or to spite anyone or no one in particular. You don't have to face the truth of your existence, but that is up to you. Eternity is a long time to contemplate your sins.

        • John

          I don't believe in your religion.

        • abrayoungham

          That's a copout. God is calling you home:

          Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting;
          The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star,
          Hath had elsewhere its setting
          And cometh from afar;
          Not in entire forgetfulness,
          And not in utter nakedness,
          But trailing clouds of glory do we come
          From God, who is our home:

          One way or the other, you will see God again. A word to the wise.

        • abrayoungham

          "WE", meaning "YOU" would allow the persons responsible for the child determine what they should do with the child. Since we are talking about living flesh here, and since our Founding Documents are based upon natural rights, i.e., the right to life, we would defend that right as long as it occurs in our nation. If you want to live in another nation with a different attitude, you are welcome to. But when you are in this nation, then, as a citizen, you are duty bound to uphold the principles of the nation. You want to renounce that, then, fine, go ahead. Does that "make sense" to you yet? Please tell me you have some degree of logical capacity and ethical reasoning available to you.

        • John

          So you defend that right to life but not the right to life of soldiers being sent off to fight bogus wars or people under the death penalty? That doesn't make sense.

        • abrayoungham

          No. I am not in favor of unjust, unconstitutional wars. Why don't you look before you leap? You must be arguing with someone else, not me. I am not in favor of any war.

        • Lee

          Oh, I see, we have no place to put them so I suppose we should replace you with one. What right do you have over them? By that rule, we should murder you because you take up too much space. By your sick rule, might makes right. Because you have the power to murder the defenseless, you think it is right to do so. You, sir, are a tyrant!

        • John

          And for some reason you think that outlawing abortions will stop women from trying to abort their pregnancies. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. ABORTIONS WILL HAPPEN WHETHER LEGAL OR NOT. The only difference is that when abortions are made illegal, the women engage in much more risky back-alley methods to terminate their pregnancies. This puts the woman and the child in more risk than if abortions were legal.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phil-Bronner/100001112435407 Phil Bronner

          Well...with your logic...why not just "legalize" all forms of murder...that'd save a "LOT" of "space"...no? Progressives have been murdering, in the name of their great utopia since the early 1900s....it's no wonder Hitler borrowed their teachings to impose on the German and occupied peoples under his control....Where do you stop? with the mentally and physically handicapped? with those whose religious beliefs conflict with yours? with those whose political beliefs conflict with yours? "Legal" doesn't make it right, moral, or ethical...in THIS country...Slavery was "legal" and Scotus decisions up to 1903 defended it....

        • brazuca

          Are you for gun rights?

        • John

          Yes

        • oldfartAmerican

          But why must people and churches who disagree by religious or moral reasons be forced by obamacare to pay for them, which if you remember January 2010 before obamacre was passed, there were some senators on the fence about voting for the bill, obama said in front of congress " if abortion is a reason this bill is being held up. I'll take it out! Abortion will not be in the bill!"

        • http://twitter.com/lindajernigan2 linda jernigan

          Obama lies, babies dies. Took my in-laws 6 yrs to adopt abortions taking the babies. Women will see their babies again, right before they are sent to Hell.

        • Phillip_in_TX

          I remember seeing a bumper sticker that read: "An Abortion Does Not Make You Unpregnant, It Makes You The Mother Of A Dead Baby."

        • GramE

          The woman is somewhat more at risk - but it is 100% for the baby -- legal or illegal.

        • William McClure

          Newsflash! Progressive Myth alert! There are no safe abortions. Abortion clinics are staffed with so called "doctors" that have no admitting privileges and abortion clinics resist any government oversight of their facilities which other medical facilities must abide by. You can quit waving the bloody coathanger and making yourself look like an idiot.

        • Truth goes 100 MPH

          You just exposed yourself. You said "the child" An admission! What happened to the term "fetus" you wonderful folks love to use? You are one sick grown "fetus"

        • John

          Yea, totally exposed.

        • foxxybey

          At your front door John, that was easy.

        • oldfartAmerican

          So, how about this, a woman is aloud 1 “birth control abortion” after the second she is
          sterilized!

        • bob novak

          how about giving them to the millions of men and women that want children but can't have them? I don't know, seems like a good start to me.

        • John

          There were about 120 thousand abortions in the US last year. What are these millions you speak of?

        • oldfartAmerican

          More children are adopted from other countries because of the intense laws in this country that make it almost ipossible to adopt here! Make it easier to adopt here!! I believe that won't happen to further the abortion business! It make way to much tax revenue!

        • grannie

          120Thousand living babies murdered because mom wanted the fun but not the responsibility? At the 40 day mark into the pregnancy, the fetus has a beating heart. That's a medical fact. Just about the time mom is saying....ummm, maybe I should check this. It is NOT just a bloody clump of unrecognizable cells.

        • John

          More than half of unwanted pregnancies occur while using contraception.

        • RyDaddy

          Bullspit!

        • John

          You are welcome to cite evidence that states something different.

        • RyDaddy

          I didn't make the unfounded claim, multiple times!

          "100% of people named John are bald."

          You are welcome to cite evidence that states something different.

        • John

          So, do you or do you not have facts that dispute my claim.

          You said I was wrong, but you offered no correction.

          I will repeat my claim and cite my sources. You are welcome to challenge them and cite your own.

          "Forty-six
          percent of women had not used a contraceptive method in the month
          they conceived, mainly because of perceived low risk of pregnancy
          and concerns about contraception (cited by 33% and 32% of nonusers,
          respectively). The male condom was the most commonly reported
          method among all women (28%), followed by the pill (14%).
          Inconsistent method use was the main cause of pregnancy for 49% of
          condom users and 76% of pill users; 42% of condom users cited
          condom breakage or slippage as a reason for pregnancy. Substantial
          proportions of pill and condom users indicated perfect method use
          (13-14%). As many as 51,000 abortions were averted by use of
          emergency contraceptive pills in 2000.
          "

          Source: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3429402.html

        • abrayoungham

          O, Guttmacher. That explains your unwillingness to adhere to a moral code.

        • abrayoungham

          California doesn't even report, hasn't for many years.

        • abrayoungham

          If you don't want to get pregnant, take precautions, your statistics are a lie. You can't lie your way to winning, people can check your facts. You don't have any. Liars go to hell and eternity is a long time. Think carefully .

        • John

          Sure, you can check my facts. I welcome you to then debate with me. But instead, you don't, yet come here and say I'm lying and going to hell. How nice of you.

        • tompro97


          Your figures are seriously wrong. Planned Parenthood reported a record number of abortions in 2012 as America's largest abortion provider performed a record 333,964 abortions by year's end which pushed Planned Parenthood's three year total to 995,687 abortions according to its annual report.

        • John

          Do you care to link any information to prove your claims? Or is that something only liberals like myself do?

          Here is a copy of their 2011 report:

          http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf

          3% of their budget goes to abortions, as you can see.

        • abrayoungham

          Mindwashed, but not soul washed. You will see the difference one day.

        • John

          Speaking about one day; One day people, thousands of years from now, people will look back at us like we look back at the middle ages and wonder to themselves: "how did these people believe in all these supernatural stories from this book? how did they believe all this stuff with no proof whatsoever and relied on "faith" to fill in the gaps where evidence was lacking."

        • abrayoungham

          Speaking about one day, one day, you will stand before your Maker and then you will face reality.
          Your atheism is a comfortable lie you tell yourself so you can get away with murder. But God is a just God, His all seeing eye notes even the fall of a sparrow. And you will then be brought to account for all you actions. You know this somewhere deep inside but your pride and ego have power over you for a small season, and then the end will come as it always will. You can't change reality, you can only change yourself to either face it , or not.

        • John

          How do you know where we go after we die?

        • abrayoungham

          God has revealed it. Eyewitnesses have shared it.

          If there is no God, where do your rights come from? Who grants and revokes them? Obama? is the State your god? If so, you get the government you deserve. Wisdom isn't easily obtained, you have to work for it. You better get to work.

        • John

          You should take more credit for being human. We can do a great many things without the help of a mystical being.

        • abrayoungham

          ANNUAL ABORTION STATISTICS

          In 2008, approximately 1.21 million abortions
          took place in the U.S., down from an estimated 1.29 million in 2002,
          1.31 million in 2000 and 1.36 million in 1996. From 1973 through 2008,
          nearly 50 million legal abortions have occurred in the U.S. (AGI).

          In 2009, the highest number of reported abortions occurred in New York (119,996), Florida (81,918) and Texas (77,630); the fewest occurred in Wyoming (≤20), South Dakota (769) and North Dakota (1,290) (CDC).

          The 2009 abortion ratios by state ranged from a low of 57 abortions per 1,000 live births in Mississippi (Wyoming had too few abortions for reliable tabulation) to a high of 713 abortions per 1,000 live births in NYC (CDC).

          The annual number of legal induced abortions in the United States doubled between 1973 and 1979,
          and peaked in 1990. There was a slow but steady decline through the
          1990's. Overall, the number of annual abortions decreased by 6% between
          2000 and 2009, with temporary spikes in 2002 and 2006 (CDC).

          The US abortion rate is similar to those of Australia, New Zealand,
          and Sweden but higher than those of other Western European countries
          (NAF).

          In 1998, the last year for which estimates were made, more than 23% of legal induced abortions were performed in California (CDC).

          In 2005, the abortion rate in the United States was higher than recent rates reported for Canada
          and Western European countries and lower than rates reported for
          China, Cuba, the majority of Eastern European countries, and certain
          Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union (CDC).

          Nearly half of pregnancies among American women are unintended; about 4 in 10 of these are terminated by abortion. Twenty-two percent of all U.S. pregnancies end in abortion. (AGI).

          Primary abortion statistics in the U.S. are available from two sources, privately from The Guttmacher Institute (AGI) and publicly from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC).
          In 2009 (the most recent year for which CDC data is available),
          California, Delaware, Maryland, and New Hampshire did not provide
          abortion reports to the federal government. Since California has not
          complied with CDC requests for abortion data in many years, and since
          California accounts for more abortions than any other state in the U.S,
          CDC totals are routinely incomplete. AGI, on the other hand, is the
          research arm of Planned Parenthood,
          the world's largest abortion provider. While their data is helpful,
          they are a much less neutral source. The following information has been
          gleaned from both sources to provide an overview of the frequency and
          demography of abortion. Additional, secondary statistics have been taken
          from the National Abortion Federation's (NAF) 2009 teaching text on
          abortion, Management of Unintended and Abnormal Pregnancy: Comprehensive Abortion Care.

          http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

        • grannie

          There are so many methods of birth control easily available. Why get pregnant at all if you don't want a child? Because when that first cell divides, you Have a child. Take responsibility for your own actions.

        • John

          Again, half of the women who receive abortions WERE using birth control when it happened.

        • abrayoungham

          That's just not so. http://www.abortionfacts.com/

        • John

          The problem with that is that everything is based on the first facts which are wrong yet they try and claim as fact.

          Personhood is not defined, even though pro lifers keep trying.

        • abrayoungham

          Says you. A person is the only possible outcome of a human conception. You may not LIKE this definition, but then, you don't have much affinity for the truth to begin with.

        • abrayoungham

          "Again, half of the women who receive abortions WERE using birth control when it happened."

          Since abortions ARE birth control, I'd say 100 percent of women were using birth control. SO WHAT? Malachi Chapter 4 is still true.

        • SEBtopdog

          Where you would put them is not the determining factor of whether they should be murdered in utero. A life is a life, whether it is pre-birth or 50 years old. And before you give me that hackneyed argument of it being equally wrong to condemn murderers to death, please remember an unborn child is an INNOCENT life.

        • http://twitter.com/lindajernigan2 linda jernigan

          The same place that you were put. Alive on Planet Earth.

      • AmberQuest

        So, I do not believe in a traditional God; therefore, I can kill you? I want to sacrifice you to my Aztec Gods.

        • John

          No, you can't. Do you think that only religious people understand that killing is wrong?

        • Elton Robb

          Well, John, if you think Killing is wrong, why support abortion?

        • DontTreadOnMe11

          Nothing but crickets from "John" in response to your question. Hmmmmmm. And he's been on this site well after you posted this question.

        • Lee

          Yes, they may still know it is wrong but don't have the conviction to not do it anyway despite they know it is wrong.

        • Centurian2010

          No many people know that killing is wrong, but that is due to God providing each of us with a conscience. You choose to exercise the free will that God has granted you to not believe in Him, others choose to murder.

        • foxxybey

          Yes, along with the other rules God gave man, man isn't the author of morals and without God there would be no rules. Those who say there is no God, say Hitler was bad, they can't make that judgement, since they don't believe in the law giver.

      • catlynn

        It doesn't matter if you believe in GOD or not, HE exists weather you believe in HIM or not. That's like saying "I don't believe in the wind", but it still exists. And yes this is AMERICA, freedom of religion, that's why you live here and believe what you do.

      • Breezeyguy

        If you don't believe in God, then you don't believe in America.

        • John

          Do you know what the first amendment says? Freedom of religion. Tell me again, who doesn't believe in America?

        • Breezeyguy

          Oh for Pete's sake. Please begin to think. America was created by the Declaration of Independence, appealing to God against the King. The inalienable rights acknowledged in the first amendment (such as free exercise of religion) are inalienable precisely because they come from God.

        • John

          If they are unalienable because they come from God, why don't people in other countries also have these unalienable rights?

        • Breezeyguy

          They DO have them. Their governments may not acknowledge those rights, but those governments are sinning against God and are violating their citizens' rights. Right now the U.S. is allowing abortionists to violate the rights of those babies being dismembered. This is a grave violation of rights, and is a crime against humanity.

        • John

          No, they don't have those rights, which is obvious because - wait for it- they don't have the rights.

        • RubyBlu

          ....after reading many of your posts here, I just feel sorry for you.

        • Breezeyguy

          If they "don't have those rights", then their governments are not doing anything wrong. By your theory, everything Hitler did was okay, because he did it "legally".

        • John

          What are you talking about now? It's AMAZING how many times you right wingers can incorporate Hitler into your conversations.

        • Breezeyguy

          Hitler makes a good case example, because everybody agrees he did wrong. What's your problem? Can't you follow a simple argument? The context was governments violating rights.

        • John

          So because a government has violated rights in the past, that means governments can always be compared to Hitler?

        • Breezeyguy

          Yes, compared and contrasted, but that is not what I did. I took your legal theory and applied it to Hitler. According to your theory, if government takes away inalienable rights, then the people don't have those rights. According to your theory, then, Hitler (for example) violated nobody's rights because he first eliminated those rights through legal instruments.

        • John

          What inalienable rights is the government taking?

        • Breezeyguy

          The right to life.

        • oldfartAmerican

          LIFE, Liberty and ...

        • abrayoungham

          It's AMAZING how Hitler like you can be, advocating an unjust death penalty because keeping kids alive is "unaffordable". As if you know anything about economics.

        • John

          1.2 million abortions were performed last year. Where would you put these 1.2 million children? Would you contribute to paying for them?

        • abrayoungham

          They do. The Constitution is for everyone. Including the unborn. But not everyone has the right to eternal salvation. That is reserved for the righteous, not the ungodly. God is a fair god, and will recompense every man his due. I hope you can partake of eternal goodness but the choice is entirely on you. He won't force you to heaven. He will allow you to go to hell if that is the path you have chosen.

        • oldfartAmerican

          "These inailianable rights given by the CREATOR..."

        • TimAZ

          Note the word "of" in the statement freedom of religion. In this context it means apart from. The meaning is that religion shall remain apart from government. Meaning govt. can not establish a religion for the citizenry to follow. No where in the constitution does it state that govt. has a duty to keep an individual guarded from ever seeing, hearing, or experiencing religion. It is your responsibility to maintain the plastic bubble that secures you from all sensory perception of religion. You could take the easier route and exorcise religious tolerance and save your self a lot of depravacion of society.

        • John

          It means that people are protected equally under the law, regardless of their religion

      • Randy Renu

        It is really good to have you back commenting. Were you on vacation? Visiting North Korea or perhaps your friends in Iraq? Most people do believe in a god of some kind (small "g"). Others believe in Jesus Christ as the only way to get to God. I think you do believe in god...the one with the small "g".

      • jas1019

        Everyone has the right to not believe in God. It doesn't change the He believes in you, and loves you so much He gave up His own Son for you.

        You can reject His love and His grace and mercy, but please know, doing so may result in consequences you can't change after you pass away.

      • Lee

        If you don't believe in God, that is your problem. For the rest of us who do, you are not going to prevent us from living righteously. What you want is not freedom of religion but freedom FROM religion. You want freedom without justice which you are too foolish to understand that freedom is not possible without justice. How free are you in a society that allows murder or theft? If we decide that murder of the unborn is ok, what will stop society from deciding that murder of Jews is ok? Or blacks? Or some other minority? There were those in this country that once said that because a black man was not as smart as a white man that he thus deserved to be enslaved. Abraham Lincoln said that by this rule, one should be very careful because a people who are smarter than you may enslave you by that rule. So, if murder of the unborn is ok by the rule of "women's rights" take care that someone may murder you by the rule of "white's rights." "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves and under a Just God cannot long retain it."

      • foxxybey

        Except for the unborn who are humans, murder isn't a right and never has been until Roe vs Wade and the person who was talked into suing is now a Believer and said she had lied and wasn't even PG at the time and the Supreme idiots won't let her have a hearing. If you don't believe in God, that is a religion as defined by the Supreme Court and want your religion and nobody elses in public. Harder to prove there is no God then it is to prove His is real.

        • John

          Are you saying that women didn't have abortions before Roe vs Wade? They did, and many children and mothers died in the process because they would drink chemicals or stick non medical objects into themselves to try and abort the child.

        • foxxybey

          John yes they did and two wrongs don't make a right and they paid the price and was their choice, don't you like choice? Choice to murder but nothing else to those on government cool-ad.

        • foxxybey

          By the way John Mary Sanger was a racist and started this to keep minority races from growing and gaining power, sounds like a lib idea, wasn't even planned parenthood but was called something that was to close to Hitlers same plans so changed the name to planned parenthood so people would accept it. Who says Hitler and the libs don't have a lot in common.

        • John
        • foxxybey

          Strange John, I didn't learn anything from the internet about Sanger, I just got a computer about 2 years ago and had read many books by Sanger and about her some 20 years ago, everything on the left has been revised including American history, so sorry I'll take what I read.

      • oldfartAmerican

        Abortion is no different than shooting a child after he is born.
        "These inalienable rights, endowed by the CREATOR..." Remember that when you cite amendments.

      • edc

        Just because you do not believe in someone or something doesn't make any less real. You will know this sooner than you think.

      • brazuca

        What does killing a child have to do with religion and you're OK with sending a scumbag criminal to jail instead of death sentence.

        • John

          It is not a child if it can't survive independent of the mother.

        • brazuca

          So if a baby cannot survive when he/she is born and needs to be on a ventilator for a while. He/she is not a child? How about and older person that is hooked up for a while?

        • John

          It is about defining when a baby becomes a person. That is what the debate is about. Why are you talking about the elderly?

        • RyDaddy

          I'm in favor of this definition of Personhood; but the definition should be that "At the point where existing technology provides a 25% chance of survival of a pre-term birth, that Fetus shall be declared a Baby and be granted full personhood and all constitutional rights thereby entitled."
          THIS would be an attainable law, far more attainable, IMHO, that repealing Roe v. Wade outright. And would, in time, lead to the near abolition of abortion as the investment dollars poured into premature birth sciences from all the Pro-Life causes.

        • Truth goes 100 MPH

          So you are saying you fed yourself and dressed yourself after you were born? I don't think your parents would agree. Every child is fed by another and is also bathed and dressed by another. Your theory makes no sense.

        • John

          .....what are you TALKING about?

        • RyDaddy

          Then its OK with you to retroactively abort millions of liberals since they can't survive without Mother Government?

      • dolores

        You don't have to believe in God to know that abortion is murder! A society that so easily kills its unborn is a society that is doomed to failure!

      • William McClure

        Only if you're alive and living in the USA. When you die you come under God's jurisdiction regardless of what you believe. When you die you will find out your beliefs are irrelevant.

      • sheinLV

        John, you don't have to believe in God to realize that Planned Parenthood is a bad place that kills babies and treats women like cattle...their motto is "at all costs, get that fetus out of that woman"

        • John

          3% of their budget goes toward abortions.

        • sheinLV

          B.S. I'd like to know where you get your figures. Planned Parenthood does nothing but abortions. It doesn't do cancer screenings, paps or mammograms. And from what I've been reading about that Phili abortionist that is on trial, they don't do lab work, sonograms or any pre-op work, nor do they sterilize their equipment or keep it in working order. And it appears they falsify medical records.

        • John

          http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/
          http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf

          "It doesn't do cancer screenings, paps or mammograms"

          That is false, as you can see by my links. They did 585,978 pap tests in 2011. These tests check for cervical cancer, so there goes your other claim about cancer screening. They also did 639,384 breast exams in 2011. With those two facts in the open, how can you claim they don't do cancer screenings?

          Regarding your mammogram claim, you are right, most clinics don't administer those services themselves, they refer the patient. Some clinics do however have a mobile mammogram station on site to provide the services.

          "So are mammograms on Planned Parenthood’s service menu?

          We asked, and in an email response, a spokeswoman for the organization said doctors and nurses at Planned Parenthood health centers provide clinical breast exams and refer patients to facilities with technicians for mammograms based on breast exams, age or family history. Planned Parenthood also refers women to breast specialists when a potential abnormality is found and follow-up tests are needed. And with the organization’s expanded breast health initiative, Planned Parenthood will be able to cover the cost of this specialized care for more women, the email said."
          http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2012/sep/25/karen-handel/karen-handel-seeks-set-record-straight-komen-plann/
          http://factcheck.org/2012/10/planned-parenthood-and-mammograms/

          Can you tell me where you got this information?:

          "nor do they sterilize their equipment or keep it in working order"

    • Jaclyn Barnes

      I agree with you one hundred percent,at conception it's a life!!Think of the millions of babies who lost there lives due to,Planned Parenthood!

      But you also have to remember that Dictator Obama,speaks out of.Both sides of his mouth one minute he's a Christian the next,he's endorsing.Planned Parenthood which kills millions and millions of babies,but in.Obamacare a women can get an abortion up to the,last minute.Of her pregnancy that's Murder in G-ds eyes!

      • Tin Values

        The blood of those children will flow from the garments of Obama and his minion.

      • 7papa7

        This is just another reason that planned parenthood must absolutely lose ALL funding from the government. They should also be tried for murder in the first degree.

        • William McClure

          And any one who normally gives to Susan B. Komen should question why this charity gives to Planned Parenthood. Why can't some one else do the mammograms?

        • SEBtopdog

          They tried to separate themselves from Planned Parenthood Funding, but sadly they caved in to media pressure and threat of lawsuit. I will no longer donate any $ to Susan G. Komen Foundation.

        • STMA

          I have heard from a number of sources that the Komen Foundation is as corrupt as they come. Supposedly the majority of $ goes to pay the >$200,000.00 top exec and his/her fellow criminals. Sounds like another good cause destroyed by crooks, as if there aren't enough of those already (feds, anyone?)

        • 7papa7

          You are absolutely right.

        • ccalreds

          They don't do mammograms. It's a lie.

        • http://twitter.com/lindajernigan2 linda jernigan

          Planned Parenthood does not do mammograms. Call them and ask.

    • http://www.facebook.com/ILoveZ Debra Moody

      I agree whole heartedly

    • 4PERCENTER

      It takes two life forms to make a baby. “Life” begins long before conception! All you people that voted for Barry Dunham a.k.a. Barack Hussein Obama, II, believe in womb murder, but in your eyes, who deserved it more that Sydney Anne Dunham, after being raped by Frank Marshal Davis? Yet God is using even him to drive America, and the world to it’s knees, until we have no one else to turn to but HIM! “…conceived in The Mind Of God before the foundation of the world.” I like that! “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.” - Jer 1:5.

  • NewCreationDave

    These things go on because we live in a free country. Or do we? Read this ...
    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950634/It%27s%20a%20free%20country.pdf

  • Screeminmeeme

    This is just the tip of the iceberg.

    The highly profitable abortion industry has deftly handled its ''mistakes'' and successfully brainwashed an eager-to-believe population that the procedure is akin to having a wart removed. But as listed in the article, the abuses, malpractice, negligence and indescribable horrors perpetrated on women and infants are only now being exposed. And all driven by that little thing called greed.

    The sadistic Tomas de Torquemada, the ''grand inquisitor'' of Spain, had nothing on the abortion docs who have used their skills and ingenuity...not to do good....but to torture and slaughter 54+ million infants.

    Ask yourself......and be honest.....When you see an obviously pregnant women, what do you think of?
    Do you immediately visualize a ''parasite'' in her abdomen (which is what Planned Parenthood often tells the mother) or do you automatically think of a baby?

    Or....... do you even care since it really doesn't matter because she is allowed by law to do whatever she wants with it, including giving permission for someone to suck out its brains or dismember it?

    That we have permitted such evil to be carried out in the light of day is a blight on America's soul and unless we put a stop to it and seek God's face, we will be certainly destroyed from within....and rightly so.

    After all, even the most benevolent tyrant is judged. How much more those without mercy.

    • John

      Ask yourself......and be honest......if you were a woman and were raped or the victim of incest, would you want to have that baby? What if you were 16 years old and your family didn't have money/resources to help take care of the child?

      You want to force people to have children who can't afford them and then you complain that the government has to help take care of them. How about if you want to force them to have the baby, YOU help pay for it?

      • http://www.facebook.com/jackie.stackable Jackie Stackable

        Oh, John. The percentage of the cases you mention are minimal. Abortion is used as a form of birth control now. Millions of healthy women abort perfectly healthy babies every year for no other reason than it's inconvenient. It is a sad commentary on today's society that life means so little. Wounded and abused animals get more press than human suffering.

        • John

          And I assume you are going to tell me you know the reasons for why they aborted their babies?

          Here are some facts on abortion:

          - 1/3 of all pregnancies worldwide are unplanned
          Approximately 25% of the world population lives in countries with highly restrictive abortion laws, mostly in Asia, Africa and Latin America
          - One woman dies every 7 minutes around the world due to an unsafe illegal abortion. Women who undergo illegal abortions are those who are very poor and do not have access to family planning facilities for education and prevention of unwanted pregnancies
          - Making abortion illegal or legal has no effect on the total number of abortions performed in the world. Making abortion legal dramatically reduces maternal morbidity and mortality.
          - Nearly 50% of pregnancies that occur yearly are unwanted with nearly ½ of those pregnant women terminating their pregnancy. In essence; 42 million choose to terminate their pregnancy with close to half of those (20 million) being illegal.

          The problem with your kind of thinking is that you think if abortion is made illegal, people won't still try and have them. What you will be doing is forcing these people into unsafe and unhealthy acts to try and get rid of their pregnancies, often putting the woman's life and the baby's life in danger.

        • nmgene

          Go drink some more of your drug enhanced Kool Aid. Remember what you have said when you stand before God and see all of the babies aborted standing there condemning you!!!!!!!!

        • Breezeyguy

          Your statistics and "planning" rhetoric are reminiscent of the Hitlerian "living space" arguments. Every human being deserves legal protection. That's a fundamental truth and a very American tradition. You use false dichotomies and "end justifies the means" rationalizations to defend the worst holocaust in the history of humanity.

        • John

          How about you quote me instead of making up stuff. If my arguments are so bad, pick them apart. Show me where I'm wrong.

        • Breezeyguy

          Your arguments are utilitarian. You think I can't defend the rights of human beings without feeding and clothing them too. It's a false dichotomy.

        • Lee

          I see, the prospect of danger for a woman is worse than the actual determined death of children. If a person breaks into your home and murders you, we should try to first determine if the REASON they did it was because it was necessary and for their benefit. In such cases, according to your logic, no charges should ever be brought against the murderer. In fact, we should encourage murder if it benefits others. NO! Any murder, whether of a baby or an adult, is murder and the reason should matter not. The penalty for murder is death as God's Word requires. If a woman can't get a legal abortion because it has been made illegal, and if she is caught getting an abortion illegally and succeeds she is liable for murder and should be put to death upon conviction. Anyone helping her perform the murder should also be put to death upon conviction. If someone murdered your daughter or mother, don't tell me that you hope the person is set free if they had a "good" reason for doing it. Because if you say that you are a liar and if you deny it, you are a hypocrite.

        • Andjap

          You can't bring in statistics that include third world countries, John. We're talking about the US and US law and abortions in the US. 93% of all abortions obtained in the US are obtained for "social" reasons - that is, convenience. The number of abortions due to rape and incest are a tiny proportion of all abortions performed.

          "What you will be doing is forcing these people into unsafe and unhealthy acts to try and get rid of their pregnancies, often putting the woman's life and the baby's life in danger." Again, the baby's life is in danger regardless of whether the abortion is legal or not. The baby is meant to be killed by both types of abortion.

        • John

          Can you show me where you got 93% from?

        • Andjap

          The Guttmacher Institute is a good place for statistics, John. If you go there, you will find that 1% of abortions were performed with rape given as the reason and less than .5% were performed for reasons of incest. And if you add up every reason that does not have to do with how inconvenient pregancy is for the woman, it's about 7% total for rape, incest, physical health of mother, physical health of baby, parental pressure and boyfriend pressure. So, 93% for convenience. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf

        • John

          Convenience? You call not having money to support another child convenience? Who should pay for these children if the families can't support it? Are you pro welfare?

          This is from your link:

          "Reasons in 2004.
          Among the structured survey respondents, the two most common reasons were “having a baby would dramatically change my life” and “I can’t afford a baby now” (cited by 74% and 73%, respectively—Table 2). A large proportion of women cited relationship problems or a de-
          sire to avoid single motherhood (48%). Nearly four in 10
          indicated that they had completed their childbearing, and
          almost one-third said they were not ready to have a child.
          Women also cited possible problems affecting the health
          of the fetus or concerns about their own health (13% and
          12%, respectively).* Respondents wrote in a number of specific health reasons, from chronic or debilitating conditions such as cancer and cystic fibrosis to pregnancy-specific concerns such as gestational diabetes and morning sickness.
          The most common subreason given was that the woman
          could not afford a baby now because she was unmarried
          (42%). Thirty-eight percent indicated that having a baby
          would interfere with their education, and the same pro-
          portion said it would interfere with their employment. In
          a related vein, 34% said they could not afford a child because they were students or were planning to study.
          In the in-depth interviews, the three most frequently stated reasons were the same as in the structured survey: the dramatic impact a baby would have on the women’s lives or the lives of their other children (32 of 38 respondents), financial concerns (28), and their current relationship or fear of single motherhood (21). Nine women cited health concerns for themselves, possible problems affecting the"

        • Andjap

          Newsflash John, having a baby dramatically changes every woman's life. Heck, getting a puppy can dramatically change your life. If that reason is good enough to warrant an abortion, then as it applies to every woman on the planet, no one should carry a pregnancy to term. And morning sickness as a health concern? Seriously? How about concerned with gaining weight? You know, reading these reasons makes me ashamed to be a woman, because these women aborting their children with these lame excuses appear to be so stupid and selfish. Go have a look at Table 2 on page 113. 93% of abortions for reasons of the mother's convenience.

        • John

          You haven't answered my question. What does a woman do who can't support another child? Are you going to pay for it?

        • Andjap

          You haven't answered a single question, John. Why don't you have to answer questions? When does having a baby not change a woman's life? Even if she has one or more children already, a new baby changes her life. Since you've most likely never given birth, John, you are much less qualified to say whether or not this is a sufficient reason to kill a baby than I am.
          I am always amazed at how vehemently liberal men fight for abortion. I notice that when it comes to women's rights, liberal men have it all down to contraception and abortion. I fear their motives are not really pure. Worse, they've convinced women that the height of their civil rights is the ability to have sex without consequence, instead of fighting for more important things. Again, I am ashamed at the way women allow people to use them for their political gain, as pawns in a political game.

        • John

          I don't answer rhetorical questions because they are rhetorical. The answer to your RHETORICAL (how many times can I say it) question, is obvious, it always changes their lives.

          Did you answer my question? How does a single mother with no financial means to take care of another child keep and raise this child? Who pays for it?

          The study that you linked as evidence shows that 70 some percent of women have abortions because they have no financial means to support the child. What do you make of this? Is this your definition of "convenience"?

          You think it's weird that men fight for women's rights? I think it's SCARY AS HELL that you fight to take away the rights of your people.

          "Worse, they've convinced women that the height of their civil rights is the ability to have sex without consequence"

          Roughly half of women who receive abortions were using a form of contraception when they became pregnant. Obviously they were thinking of the consequences. How many times can you be proven wrong?

        • Andjap

          John, we already pay for many social programs for the poor, we pay for the children of immigrants, and as has been pointed out, the government currently thinks we can take care of 11 million immigrants with healthcare for all, so I think it's been proven that we manage to provide financial aid to those in need. Financial means to support a child is a different amount to everyone. I know many people who wouldn't think of having a child until they had a house, two cars and a vacation home. There's no evidence that they can or cannot support a child, just that they say they cannot. And, let's not forget, some of them are afraid of getting morning sickness. That's really scary.
          John, I don't have a people. I have just me. My opinions and freedoms are my own, not anyone else's and I don't subscribe to group-think. Liberals always group people - by sex, sexual orientation, race., ethnicity - and then expect them to all think alike. That is so very bigoted and narrow-minded.
          Bottom line is that you have just spent a long time and a lot of words fighting for women to have abortions for any reason they can come up with, but you don't own up to the fact that making sure women have free contraception and abortion on demand really benefits men more than anyone else, because it relieves them of all of the responsibility for sex. The fact that any man spends so much time fighting for these things says to me that his interest in women is very narrow, indeed.

        • John

          "There's no evidence that they can or cannot support a child, just that they say they cannot."

          First you link this study which proves you wrong, then you want to argue against the study? You are the one who linked it as evidence! If you have better evidence that supports your argument, you are free to share it with us. Until then, your own evidence speaks against you.

          "Liberals always group people - by sex, sexual orientation, race., ethnicity - and then expect them to all think alike."

          You just grouped all liberals. Hypocrisy is no fun, is it?

          "fighting for women to have abortions for any reason they can come up with,"

          Actually the reasons are clearly stated in the study that you linked. Did you forget that you linked it? Remember what the #1 reason was? No financial ability to take care of the baby.

          "but you don't own up to the fact that making sure women have free contraception and abortion on demand really benefits men more than anyone else"

          So now you are against contraception too? Wow! How does it benefit men more than women? You do know that there is male and female birth control, right?

          " The fact that any man spends so much time fighting for these things says to me that his interest in women is very narrow, indeed."

          The fact that you are so actively against your own people, women, to have a choice in if they want to keep a pregnancy is absolutely embarrassing. I feel bad for you.

        • Andjap

          I can actually group liberals in that way, because Liberals ARE a group defined by their opinions. So are conservatives. Liberals are of the opinion that people must think certain things because of their race or gender, etc. If they don't, they call them names, or instance, the hate speech lobbed at black conservatives. Genders, races, ethnicities, etc, are not groups defined by their opinions but by other criteria. They are all individuals, not some borg creature, and are entitled to have their own opinions You are grouping people into narrow veins of thought that you believe they must adhere to.

          They gave the reason that they can't afford it. The usual pro-choice argument is that we will prevent the victims of rape and incest from having abortions and regardless of whether the other reasons are financial or the fear of nausea, they are matters of convenience and not life or death. You skipped the main subreason being that they are not married.

          I am not against people. I am for life. The baby is not the woman's body, the baby has his own body and his own life and I am against the wanton taking of that life to suit someone's convenience. I cannot understand anyone who campaigns so strenuously for the deaths of the innocent. Your own words speak against you.

        • John

          You STILL haven't answered my question. I'm asking it for the 5th or 6th time now, I lost count:

          If a woman is unable to have a child because she doesn't have the financial capability, who will pay for this child if it were to not be aborted?

        • Andjap

          That question has been answered many times. She has other options, not the least of which is adoption. Although PP and other pro-choice groups don't provide any help to women who make any choice other than abortion, there are churches and organizations all over the country that assist women who decide not to abort. The truth is that pro-choice means choose abortion and your own words show that you think it is the only option for women who didn't plan on getting pregnant. But it is not. And I do not believe in killing people because we can't afford them. That is what you are saying is right to do. There is help out there, but that type of help and those options are never offered to women in difficult circumstances when they go to PP. And as you have never acknowledged, the woman in the article above decided NOT to have an abortion and they proceeded anyway, because abortion is their business. Every time PP guarantees privacy to a minor who tells them that an older man or a relative impregnated her, they are aiding and abetting rape and incest. They do it because they make big money from abortion. It's a business, not a service in the interests of women, but in the interests of greed.

        • John

          "Although PP and other pro-choice groups don't provide any help to women who make any choice other than abortion"

          Well, the facts disagree with you, again.

          "Planned Parenthood of the Heartland now will offer adoption services in Nebraska through a partnership with the Mason City, Iowa-based Avalon Center.

          The Avalon Center, which is licensed by the State of Nebraska, will have adoption professionals in Planned Parenthood's health centers in Omaha and Lincoln with office hours and a 24-hour phone line for individuals and families interested in adoption.

          Melissa Grant, regional director of health services for Planned Parenthood, said the addition is exciting because it will allow the organization to take clients interested in adoption all the way through the process."

          http://news.adoption.com/uni/frame.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omaha.com%2Farticle%2F20120725%2FNEWS%2F707259932%2F1707&name=Planned+Parenthood+to+offer+complete+adoption+services

        • Andjap

          Well, that's special, isn't it? One PP office is interested in adoption. But numerous investigative reports and testimony of patients all point to the fact that PP doesn't steer people towards adoption at all but instead counsels people that abortion is the easiest and best choice.
          However, if you believe that PP is high on adoption and getting into the adoption business, then you have to admit that it is an option for the woman who can't afford the child she helped create and therefore, you have just provided the answer to your own question.

        • John

          Why can't you link any evidence for your claims?

          I never said it wasn't an option. I said you can't make abortions illegal with the logic that adoptions would be a substitute.

        • Andjap

          You asked "If a woman is unable to have a child because she doesn't have the financial capability, who will pay for this child if it were to not be aborted?"
          And now you have provided the answer - she can go to PP and go through the adoption process and the adoptive parents will financially support the child.

        • John

          I have already gone over this multiple times and with multiple people. 1.2 million abortions happened last year. If those would be given to adoption instead, where would they go? Who would pay for them?

        • Andjap

          If there's no place for them to go, why is PP adding adoption services? Silly argument, even if you've made it multiple times. Obviously, Planned Parenthood believes that there adoption is a viable option, so perhaps you should ask them where they intend to put all these adopted children.

        • John

          Yes. Adoption is viable and abortions are viable.

        • John

          More PP adoption links:

          http://www.plannedparenthood.org/greater-texas/adoption-referrals-40217.htm

          http://www.plannedparenthood.org/mn-nd-sd/adoption-minnesota-30131.htm

          What do you respond to the fact that only 3% of the budget goes to abortions? That most of their focus is on STDs and contraception?

        • Andjap

          Why do you change your question every time you begin to lose the argument, John? Based on the article above, I believe that an organization that is providing sub-standard care and went ahead with a surgical procedure for which the patient had withdrawn consent and then provided sub-standard post-surgical care is not worthy of $540 million tax dollars. I am sure you will agree that at the very least, this is a situation worthy of censure and should spark an investigation of whether it is a worthy cause for federal funding. We've already covered the myth that abortions are mostly obtained for reasons of rape and incest, we've covered the fact that abortion is not the only option for a woman in dire financial straits (thank you for providing that information) and so I believe that about wraps it up.

        • John

          Who ever claimed that abortions were mostly obtained for reasons of rape and incest? The point is that you are against such abortions, are you not?

          You still have no responded, what do you say to the fact that 3% of the PP budget goes to abortions?

        • Andjap

          Yet 51% of PP's yearly income comes from performing abortions and 40% of all abortions are performed by PP. A third of their funding comes from the government. In the above case, they performed an abortion without anesthesia that the patient told them she no longer wanted them to perform. They also committed serious acts of malpractice. 51% of their income comes from performing abortions. If 3% of their budget goes to abortions and they have such a lucrative return on this tiny investment, it seems that this may be one reason they are reluctant to allow patients to change their minds. You ought to find this example to be very disturbing. The ROI on abortion is also a good reason for them to advise a woman to get an abortion rather than offer options. Since you are all about choice, you should support women being given counseling on ALL the options so she can make a choice - AND change her mind if she wants to. PP took that choice from this woman.

        • John

          Why do you not link any information when you claim facts like "Yet 51% of PP's yearly income comes from performing abortions"? Where did you get this number?

          In regard to this article, all we know is that she filed a lawsuit and alleges those things happened. This is the equivalent of filing a medical malpractice suit. Do you think that all such lawsuits are honest? Do you automatically assume that when someone files a lawsuit, everything they claim is true?

          How about we wait to hear the outcome before rushing to conclusions that everything this woman claims is exactly as it happened?

          "PP took that choice from this woman."

          There you go again, pretending like this is fact when NOTHING has been concluded. She filed a lawsuit. That is it. I'm glad you take her at her word. Is it because it goes along with your beliefs? Surely not, right?

        • Andjap

          "According to Planned Parenthood’s own apologist, Media Matters, its “total revenue from abortion services was approximately $164,154,000,” a year. Accordingly, over 51 percent of Planned Parenthood’s clinic income comes from abortion."

          If you hadn't noticed, there is an affadavit from the physician who treated this woman in the ER and he attests to her substandard care.

          This is possibly the first time you have even addressed the article's subject in these comments. Basically, you've spent hours just championing abortion. Perhaps that is because of your beliefs.

          I am sure that if she wins her lawsuit and there is evidence presented that leaves no doubt as to PP's responsibility and malpractice, you will be right here to tell everyone how much you disapprove of their actions... not.

        • John

          So you aren't going to link where you got the info?

          It is so ridiculous. How can you link that to me with a straight face? That quote links to a media matters article that says their abortion revenue is 15%:

          "In Fact, Less Than 15% Of Total Revenue Comes From Abortion Services

          Contraception, STD Testing And Treatment, Cancer Screening Make Up Vast Majority Of Planned Parenthood Services. Planned Parenthood's 2008-2009 annual report states: "For the three million patients our doctors and nurses saw, we provided contraception (36 percent of our total services), testing and treatment for sexually transmitted infections (31 percent), cancer screening and prevention (17 percent), and abortion services (three percent)." [Planned Parenthood Annual Report 2008-2009, accessed 2/17/11]

          Planned Parenthood Receives 15% Of Its Annual Revenue From Abortion Services. According to data from the most recent Planned Parenthood Annual Report:

          Abortion accounted for 3 percent of total services (approximately 328,308 of 10,943,609 services)

          At an average cost of $500, total revenue from abortion services was approximately $164,154,000

          Revenue from abortion services was less than 15 percent of the total annual revenue, which was $1,100,800,000 [Planned Parenthood Annual Report 2008-2009, accessed 2/17/11]"

          http://mediamatters.org/research/2011/02/18/laura-ingraham-grossly-misrepresents-planned-pa/176611

          How do people like you think you can lie so openly? I honestly don't get it. Just like when you gave me your last piece of evidence, it DIRECTLY CONTRADICTED YOU.

          Why should I address alleged claims of this article? So that I can jump to conclusions like you? Did you also know that the lawyer this woman was given is from a strong anti abortion group who is trying to make it a political battle against PP?

        • John

          I'm wondering, since you seem to be pro-life, are you for the death penalty? Are you supportive of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars?

        • Andjap

          That total revenue includes both private donations of over $200 million and gov't funds of nearly $500 million. You cannot derive a percentage of "income" from donated money, that is not income from their business operations. The 3% is a misleading figure. Their income from clinic services is 320.1 million dollars, of which 51% equals $164,154,000. Federal money and private donations are not income. That 164,154,000 may be 3% of their total revenue from all sources, but it is not 3% of the income from their clinic services.

          http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/05/media-hides-fact-planned-parenthood-does-40-of-abortions/

          There you go again, trying to steer me into other subjects with questions about the death penalty and Iraq. Irrelevant and only done to try to keep me off topic by going off on tangents to other emotionally-charged subjects.

          However, you still haven't once expressed agreement that if PP does in fact operate without regard to patient safety that you believe that we should withhold federal funding.

        • John

          So no comment to the fact that what you linked directly contradicted you? Alright, I guess we'll move on. Well, never mind, I guess we can't really move on since the lifenews article you linked ALSO references the media matters article of 15%. How does it link an article claiming 15% while in the same paragraph states 51%? Maybe a typo?

          How are donations not income? Why do they have to, by law, claim it as income then? The private money they receive can be used for their business operations, just not federal money for abortion services. PP received private contributions ($250 million) and from other sources ($69 million). For the fiscal year 2011-2012, their expenses for medical services totaled 911 million. Your claim assumes that they only use their income from their practice to fund abortions when this is false.
          http://issuu.com/actionfund/docs/ppfa_ar_2012_121812_vf?mode=window&pageNumber=1

          No, my questions about death penalty and wars are not irrelevant at all. You claim to be pro life and say that others are murderers for not subscribing to your beliefs.. If you are truly pro life, you would be against the death penalty and wars that have killed thousands of our soldiers. But you aren't truly pro life, you pick and choose what life you think is important and attack people for being evil while your beliefs themselves are inconsistent.

        • Andjap

          If I run a lemonade stand and end up with $200 but only $51 comes from selling lemonade an other $49 comes from selling cookies and the other $100 comes from neighbors who toss nickels into my till because they want to support my efforts, then 51% of my earned income comes from selling lemonade. If PP makes $320 million from their clinic services and $164,154,000 of that comes from abortion, then abortions account fo 51% of their income from clinic services. The rest is donations, like those extra nickels. This is an easy concept to grasp.

          If you equate executing murderers with aborting babies who cannot possibly have committed any evil, then your stance on life, the sanctity of life and what constitutes reasonable justification for taking life, is morally impoverished.

        • John

          So you aren't pro life, OK, just checking.

          Your example is only correct if you -only- use your revenue from selling lemonade to pay for your lemonade expenses.

          Let's define income: Revenue minus expenses. In the case of PP, their expenses come out of more than just their clinic services. So calculating income without factoring that in is wrong.

        • Andjap

          Your example is correct only if you admit that PP uses federal funding to pay for expenses related to abortion - which you deny happens. If they use any of that money towards expenses related to abortion, then abortions are being federally funded.

          Not going to allow you to draw me into your side argument about the death penalty. It is as easy for me to say that if you oppose the death penalty, then you are pro-murder. But I don't use those knee-jerk emotional arguments. I am anti-murder of all people, including those who have not yet been born.

          But since I have more important things to tend to in life, it is likely I will not contribute further to this thread. One note, however, my lack of further response should not be taken to mean that I have no response to whatever you post following this. I simply do not wish to continue, since you have already conceded the important points a long time ago, and all these new comments are tangents you have introduced to obscure the facts.

        • John

          We have gone over this. PP receives federal funding, private funding, and funding from other sources.

          "In the fiscal year ending June 30, 2011, total(consolidated) revenue was $201 million: clinic revenue totaling $2 million, grants and donations of $190 million, investment income of $2 million, and $7 million other income.[43] Approximately two-thirds of the revenue is put towards the provision of health services, while non-medical services such as sex education and public policy work make up another 16%; management expenses, fundraising, and international family planning programs account for most of the rest."

          "Not going to allow you to draw me into your side argument about the death penalty. It is as easy for me to say that if you oppose the death penalty, then you are pro-murder"

          So if I say I am against the death penalty, I am pro-murder? How does that logic work?

        • John

          "FACTS ABOUT ABORTION IN THE UNITED STATES

          Incidence of Abortion

          Nearly half of all pregnancies among American women are unintended, and 4 in 10 of these are terminated by abortion. 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion.

          40% of pregnancies among white women, 69% among blacks and 54% among Hispanics are unintended.

          In 2005, 1.21 million abortions were performed, down from 1.31 million in 2000. More than 45 million legal abortions were performed from 1973 through 2005.

          Each year, about 2% of women aged 15-44 have an abortion; 47% of them have had at least one previous abortion.

          At least half of all American women will face an unintended pregnancy by age 45 and, at current rates; about one-third will have had an abortion.

          Over 88% of abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy. Over half of all abortions in the U.S. occur within the first 8 weeks of pregnancy. 6.7% occur between 13 and 15 weeks, 3.5% occur between 16 and 20 weeks, and 1.1% of abortions occur at 21 weeks or greater.

          Today, the number of abortions has declined from a peak of 29.3 per 1000 women aged 15-44 in 1979 to 19.4 per thousand. It has only slowly dropped over the last several years because poor women have not had access to Family Planning Facilities for education and prevention of pregnancy through effective birth control measures.

          Who Has Abortions?

          Fifty percent of U.S. women obtaining abortion are younger than 25: Women aged 20-24 obtain 33% of all abortions, and teenagers obtain 17%.

          37% of abortions occur with black women, 34% with non-Hispanic white women, 22% to Hispanic women and 8% to women of other races.

          Women who obtain abortion represent every religious affiliation. 43% of women obtaining abortion identify themselves as Protestant, and 27% as Catholic; and 13% of abortion patients describe themselves as born-again or Evangelical Christians.

          Most women receiving abortion (83%) are unmarried. Women who have never married obtain two-thirds of all abortions. 16% are separated, divorced, or widowed. Married women are significantly less likely than unmarried women to resolve unintended pregnancies through abortion. About 60% of abortions are obtained by women who have one or more child."

      • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.dadich Joseph Dadich

        John,, as far as the first part if you were raped or in the case of incest of course the woman shouldn't be expected to have the child and there are provisions set up for that, but as far as the 16 year old is concerned I see no reason for her not to have the baby. There are alternitives such as adoption the main problem is the goverments intrusion. When it becomes easier to adopt from another country the laws only need to be changed and these children would have loving homes. Now ask yourself...and be honest dfid you ever wonder how many Mortzarts or Einstiens or Ghundis or Neil Armstrongs will never come because they were considered parasites.

        • John

          Have you been following what has been going on in North Dakota? They passed a bill that only needs to be signed by the governor to go into effect that would outlaw most abortions, including those in cases of rape and incest.

          " the main problem is the goverments intrusion"

          Aren't you advocating against abortion rights? How can you then say government intrusion is a problem if you support government telling people if they can or can't have an abortion?

        • Breezeyguy

          The government should intrude into murder. It exists to secure and defend human rights, including the right to life.

        • Lee

          John, you are so right. Government should never intrude with people owning slaves. The government should NEVER tell people they cannot enslave others. Let the strong enslave the weak and we'll declare that freedom.

      • DontTreadOnMe11

        Adoption is not a viable option for you?

        • John

          There were about 1.2 million abortions last year. There are already many children in foster homes who aren't being adopted. What do you think throwing 1.2 million children more into the mix would do? Who would pay for this?

        • nmgene

          Its the older children that are not being adopted, get your facts straight!!!! There are not enough babies for the people who want to adopt babies!!!!!!

        • nmgene

          John you atre on the losing side. I have made 451 comments and got 2779 up votes. You have made 3001 comments and only got 1156 up votes. You see you are a loser!!!!!

        • Screeminmeeme

          Oh, I don't know. We're somehow making room for 11+ million illegals plus an estimated15 million more of their family members and your leftists think its okay to provide for their every need, including sending them to college.

      • Screeminmeeme

        You comments are nothing new. It's always the same: pro-life people FORCE poor people to have children they don't want, who then grow up to have lousy lives. And it's always the rape/incest-results-in-pregnancy argument (which is a minuscule part of unwanted pregnancies). This is just a distraction from the real issue which is: IS THE BABY A HUMAN BEING OR NOT? If it is, then abortion is murder.

        But, really, it's all subjective, isn't it. You believe in the notion that redefining something based on a whim is rational. Depending on whether you want it or not, the baby becomes a parasite...or the parasite becomes a baby. How convenient.

        Two wrongs don't make a right. Since I know of cases where raped women have given birth to children who they cherish ....and since I know of cases where a victim of incest chose life, gave birth, and the child was given up for adoption.....I know it is possible that even in the worst case scenario, God can make good come from it. HE sees the child's life as just as precious as the mother's, as do I. The child is an innocent victim.

        Answer this: You and your pregnant wife (7 months gestation) are driving to the theater. You are discussing possible names for the child when a drunk driver runs into you.. You both survive but the baby dies. WHY SHOULD IT MATTER?

        Really, according to our pro-death culture, the situation I described should not be anymore emotionally disturbing that that of the woman in her 7th month of pregnancy who walks into Planned Parenthood and gives them permission to kill her baby.

        According to you, both are simply products of conception, at the disposal of the mother.

        • John

          You didn't answer my question, if you were a woman and the victim of rape, incest, or the inability to take care of your child, would you have it? With about 1.2 million abortions last year, where do you think those babies should go? Into foster homes? Not enough kids are being adopted as is, how would throwing 1.2 million more children in there work out? Who is going to pay for these unwanted children? You?

          I find it extremely convenient that you always have personal experience with all the political issues you advocate for. Personally, I don't believe you.

          Also, you can't have abortions at 7 months. You clearly don't understand the basic facts about what you are talking about. So how about learning a little bit before trying to tell people what they should do with their bodies? THANKS!

        • Screeminmeeme

          1. I've been a Christian since I was 14. If I were raped or a victim of incest and got pregnant, I'm sure I would be angry and frightened. But I had wonderful Christians in my family who ministered to my needs often and no doubt would have given me support and sage advice to trust God, go thru with the pregnancy, and either keep the child or give it up for adoption.

          2. There are so many dynamics that factor in when it comes to woulda, coulda, shoulda happened to 54+ million children over the past 40 years that it is impossible to use this forum to discuss it. Suffice it to say that I believe those children, one way or other, would have been raised by adoptive parents, or in foster homes, or by the mothers involved.

          3. I'm old. I've had many life experiences that someone like you has no clue about., and it's because of those personal experiences that I advocate so passionately for certain issues. I personally know a young woman with cerebral palsy who speaks at Right to Life meetings, and tells how she was the survivor of an attempted abortion. She was adopted and raised by loving Christan parents and needless to say, she is a compelling advocate for the unborn. Whether or not you believe me couldn't matter less to me.

          4.http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/photosassorted/ <<, go here to see hundreds of late term abortions.

          Over half of the states permit late term abortions to save the life or physical health of the mother.

          5. I'm a retired critical nurse who worked in labor and delivery before and just after Roe v Wade. I'm VERY familiar with procedures and the ways the medical profession justifies murder. Before RvW, the procedure used was a D&E. I've been in the position to care for a baby who survived abortion and have written about it here. It explains the impetus to my determination to fight abortion until I die.

          6. I unequivocally stand in defense of the innocent. You stand in the shameful position of condoning their deaths with a heartless disregard.

          BTW: you never answered my question. WHY should it matter if your pregnant wife's child miscarried?

        • catlynn

          Here's the answer:

          I suggest you keep your legs closed instead of just the enjoyment at
          the time. Think of the consequences before you open up your legs for
          your own gratification. Maybe use the brain for contraceptives or "if I
          get pregnant can I afford this child", and if not, DON'T MAKE SOCIETY PAY FOR YOUR ABORTIONS OR CONTRACEPTIVES!!!

        • John

          Contraceptives are not 100% effective. Condoms also tear, did you not know this?

          Like I already said, society doesn't pay for what you claim. Look up the Hyde Amendment, it's been around since 1977 and specifically prohibits the use of federal funding for abortions.

        • Leeannm

          Hey everyone John is trolling- you are wasting your time with him, he's a liberal- liberalism is a mental disorder.... there is no way to convince people with the mental disorder of liberalism that society doesn't dictate or determine the worth or destiny of one human soul when you don't believe that humans have a soul. And that is a lie about no federal funding for abortions- planned parenthood is funded by federal and state dollars-we here in Texas cut off state funding this session for planned parenthood-they are squawking about the "impact" but at least maybe children will be spared from being extinguished.

        • John

          Finally, someone brings up Planned Parenthood. I will gladly prove you wrong.

          http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/

          "We received several questions on this topic during the recent budget debate in Congress, after Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl claimed this month on the Senate floor that "well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does" is provide abortion services. That figure was wildly incorrect. Planned Parenthood says only 3 percent of its total services in 2009 were abortions. The other 97 percent of services were for contraception, treatment and tests for sexually transmitted diseases, cancer screenings, and other women’s health services.

          Planned Parenthood’s chart shows that abortions made up 3 percent of its total services. Another way to measure the group’s abortion services, however, is to divide the total number of abortions by the number of clients. For example, Planned Parenthood said that it “provided nearly 11.4 million medical services for 3 million people” in 2009. Its 2011 fact sheet says it performed 332,278 abortion procedures in 2009. That would mean that roughly one out of every 10 clients received an abortion.

          Taxpayer Funding

          Planned Parenthood’s 2008-2009 annual report states that it received $363.2 million in "Government Grants and Contracts." (See page 29.) That’s about one-third of its total revenues for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2009.

          However, not all of that money is from the federal government. Planned Parenthood’s government funding comes from two sources: the Title X Family Planning Program and Medicaid. About $70 million is Title X funding, Planned Parenthood spokesman Tait Sye told us. The rest — about $293 million — is Medicaid funding, which includes both federal and state money.

          But Planned Parenthood cannot use the money it receives from the federal government for abortions anyway. According to the Department of Health and Human Service’s website, "by law, Title X funds may not be used in programs where abortion is a method of family planning." Medicaid funding is restricted by the Hyde Amendment to only abortion cases involving rape, incest or endangerment to the life of the mother. Some states use their own funds under Medicaid to go beyond that. Seventeen states and, until recently, the District of Columbia pay for "medically necessary" abortions, according to the Guttmacher Institute. The federal budget deal now bans Washington, D.C., from using its funds to pay for abortions."

        • Lee

          I'll respond, lets throw you into the foster home and give the baby your home!!!!!!! Who is to say this is not right? Better yet, let's kill you and give the baby everything you have! Oh, BTW, do you realize that your argument of the woman can do what she pleases with her body is tantamount to saying that a slave holder can do what he wishes with his property? No, of course you don't. You will call them different. You will say that when the Supreme Court decided that a man can do with his slave property as he wished that was a bad Supreme Court decision but when the Supreme Court said that a woman may do with her baby as she wishes that is a good Supreme Court decision! You will be inconsistent while the rest of us God-fearing people will say that both Supreme Court decisions were based on the selfishness of mankind. If you are consistent, you either have to admit that slavery is as justified as abortion. But of course you'll dance around that as hypocrites always do.

        • John

          Hey Lee, can we make laws that restrict your reproductive organs?

        • Andjap

          There is a doctor on trial now for aborting 7 month fetuses and he killed a couple of women, injured many others and killed the babies born alive by snipping their spinal cords with scissors after they were born. Making abortion legal with some restrictions means that some women will go to doctors like Kermit Gosnell and put their lives in danger. So, should we make late term abortion legal? Make it legal to kill a living child if the mother tries to abort it but it survives? John, if the answer is to make everything legal that some people will do anyway and possibly get hurt doing it, then there would be no laws whatsoever.

        • John

          No, late term abortions should never be legal.

          Yes, people like Gosnell should be prosecuted and convicted.

        • Andjap

          But John, women who want late term abortions might go to unscrupulous doctors like Gosnell and die at the hands of these butchers. These women are just as desperate as those who go earlier, they are just procrastinators, or perhaps afraid, or it wasn't convenient to go to the abortion doctor sooner. Do you want them to die as a result of going to back street abortion doctors just as other women did back before the glorious days of Roe v Wade? Shouldn't you let them have safe, legal, late-term abortions?

        • Lee

          Do you not realize that a selfish adult is MORE HUMAN than an innocent baby? Come on, everyone knows that a fornicating, money worshiping, selfish adult is far more human than a baby and thus deserves life whereas the baby, because he cannot defend himself or have a voice deserves death!

      • Screeminmeeme

        The family is desperately poor
        The father has syphilis.
        The mother has TB.
        Of their 4 children.....one has died and one has a terminal disease.

        The mother is pregnant.
        Should she have an abortion?

        Yes?
        Ludwig van Beethoven, one the world's greatest composers, has just been eliminated from the human race.

        • John

          Are you comparing life in 1770 to life in 2013? You guys are soooo progressive! Also, your argument is ridiculous. How many Beethovens have there been since? How many have there been before?

        • nmgene

          There are 1000s of people who can not have children of there own who want to adopt, but there are no babies to adopt because fools like you would rather murder the babies for profit. You will stand before God and be judged. I will look down from heaven and watch you burn in Hell for all eternity.

        • John

          Like you said, leaving the judging to God.

          There are no babies to adopt you say?

          "In 2009, there were 423,773 children in foster care, a drop of about 20% in a decade.

          In 2009, there were about 123,000 children ready for adoptive families in the nation's foster care systems."

        • Breezeyguy

          Foster care is hell on earth for both the parents and the kids. It is a government meat grinder.

        • John

          Exactly. Last year there were 1.2 million abortions. Where would you say we put these 1.2 million children if abortions are made illegal? Like you said, foster care is hell on earth.

        • Screeminmeeme

          Having you body burned with hypertonic saline and then having it dismembered is hell on earth for those babies.

        • Lee

          You are right, lets just go get all foster children and murder them!

        • Breezeyguy

          That would be abortionist John's solution. By the way you guys, I just mention that about foster care because a family I know had really bad experiences. They finally got out of it and adopted the little girl.

        • Screeminmeeme

          Breezeyguy....Having your cranium punctured with a metszenbaum scissors and your brain sucked out by a suction tube is hell on earth for the indefensible infant. It's a government sanctioned meat grinder.

        • Breezeyguy

          I agree screemin. Adoption is the real option. Foster care is for older kids. And abortion is an unthinkable atrocity.

          By the way, I love your posts.

        • patriotusa2

          It's absolutely incredible that anyone would permit such a thing in this day and age. To allow your baby, unwanted or not, to go through such agony is truly uncivilized and extremely cruel.

        • Lee

          If this bothers you, adopt one you dummy!

        • John

          I'm fine with the way things are. I want more abortion rights for women.

        • Lee

          I want more slavery rights for men. Strong, smart men should be able to enslave weak dumb men like yourself. Oh, and if you like more abortions, YOU PAY FOR THEM!

        • John

          This is why people don't take you seriously.

        • Lee

          I'm merely illustrating how sick your own views are using your own logic. This is what abortion boils down to. The stronger either enslaving or killing the weak. So if you are consistent, then you are forced to support slavery. You will not be consistent, I know that. But I enjoy exposing the fraud and evil in your beliefs. As the Bible aptly and Truthfully says, a man's thoughts are evil continuously. Thanks for proving the Bible is True.

        • AmberQuest

          Life in 2013 where the poor have cell phones, cable tv, section 8 housing, free food, free tuition....but can't be bothered with children

        • Screeminmeeme

          Good non-answer.

        • Lee

          John, you are no Beethoven, so we should just murder you. If this is your logic, then YOU have no reason to live.

        • John

          I don't think you understand the simplest basics of logic.

        • Screeminmeeme

          I don't think you understand the simplest basics of being human.

        • Leeannm

          We will never know how many Beethovens were already killed because of the horrible tragedy of abortion. It is savage and hurts women and their children that they should be holding in their arms- they leave the clinic with a promise that everything is going to be fine and it never is. You can accept a mistake that you made and work with what you have or it can be turned in something awful- abortion turns a mistake into a horrible scar on that woman that will never be healed and kills a person to cover up a mistake.

      • AmberQuest

        My taxes pay for the mother having the abortion, why not pay for the child as well.

        • Screeminmeeme

          AmberQuest....Good question.

        • John

          The average overall cost of an abortion is about 450 dollars. That won't pay for the child.

          Also, the idea that all abortions are paid for by tax dollars is wrong. The Hyde Amendment, which has been around since 1977, specifically prohibits federal funding (medicaid in this case) for abortions where there is no rape, incest, or threat to the mother's life. Seventeen states help pay for some of these costs.

      • iwojimafan

        Did you ever hearof giving the baby up for adoption if you can't afford to raise it.. This was done a lot i the 1930's when people couldn't afford to raise the children because of no work. Your argument doesn't hold water

      • Randy Renu

        So money is more important then life? Hey, good news. There is a new program in this country called ADOPTION. You know, where a mother gives up her child to a caring and loving family who can't have children? You ask yourself, and do this many times until your brain understands it, killing is wrong and abortions are nothing more then legalized murder. But you know that as you are an example of one that lived.

        • John

          1.2 million abortions happened last year. Are you saying there are 1.2 million families looking to adopt?

        • Randy Renu

          It is ALWAYS a pleasure to enter into a big clusterf### with you. Why don't you think there would be 1.2 million PEOPLE interested in adopting? Not only in the US but how about in other countries. John, your crack pipe has gone out....time to relight it.

        • Screeminmeeme

          Randy Renu...It's funny how the left is so very concerned about how we could possibly afford to care for those millions of babies...and yet they have problem with using the people's money to fund their marxist policies, like welfare and college for illegals.

        • patriotusa2

          This guy is a real trip! As some people like to hear themselves talk, I'm convinced he just likes to read his opinions in print thinking he's coming off as intelligent. He must search the web day and night copying and pasting liberal ideologies just to display on these conservative forums to demonstrate his "superior" knowledge. His activity file is a real lesson in what it means to be a liberal.

        • Randy Renu

          No, John is a real example of mental retardation, insecurity and someone not breast fed as a child. Playing on this site is just a game for him....see all the attention he gets. I vote we NEVER again respond to any of his comments; perhaps then he'll just go away.

        • patriotusa2

          Actually, I said the same thing! I've made up my mind to ignore this guy because I'm convinced he is eight cents short of a dime. Full of hatred for conservatives, and anti-religious according to his activity file, which makes me think there's a good possibility he's gay.

      • Lee

        If I were a woman I certainly wouldn't want to have the baby. But no one asks the baby if they care to live. Ask yourself....and be honest....have you ever wished your mother had done to you what you think should be done to these other innocent children? Ask any pro-choicer if they wish their own mothers had done to them what they would have done to other babies! In this they are all hypocrites, tyrants, and despots!

        • John

          Yes, I am fine with that.

      • CoachKaterina

        You are mixing apples to oranges. Take each of your what if's separately: the 16 yr old who does not have the money to care for a baby: hmmm, there is a very simple solution, close your legs until you get married. It is quite simple actually. Choose to honor your future wife and husband by saving yourself for him or her. Being sexually active at 16 causes babies. So that is the solution to that one. Now, yes, those 16 year olds who do decide to open their legs have to live with their choices, if they get pregnant, they have a baby. That is the consequence of having sex. What part of that is so hard to understand?

        • John

          "hmmm, there is a very simple solution, close your legs until you get married."

          How does one being married change anything about becoming pregnant and ones views about abortion? Are you saying married women don't have abortions?

          People will have sex before marriage, that's the way it is. Wishing they didn't won't change anything and is quite naive when talking about sexual health policies.

          You remind me of the pope who told Africans not to wear condoms and engage in abstinence, while millions of their people are dying to AIDS.

          What's hard to understand?

        • Screeminmeeme

          Katerina.....Exactly. The left never considers the CAUSE of the pregnancy which is invariably promiscuity.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NLORN6B3ZNGCAJTFHWWFUUEY4Q jong

      Of course we have Doctors that have violated their oaths of doing no harm for a fast buck with these "death factories". They have abandoned the usual trust between a person and their Doctor in this. And now we imprison those like the man that prevented a Doctor from committing any more murder by shooting the "Doctor" in a Lutheran Church. Luther in Heaven is smiling upon that act.

  • [email protected]

    Now the Government will crack down on PP with regulations and the cost to the tax payer will go up.

  • USCBIKER

    Here's a stupid question: WTF are Boo Hoo and the GOP House members doing that they haven't yet totally defunded Planned Genocide??!! Maybe the same reason they haven't defunded Obamacare.

  • rocketjl

    I can't remember what I was thinking, but I know all of you decent law-abiding people will agree with me that I am right, or should we torture those who don't agree with me???

  • cbarneym

    You people have a right to be against abortion but when you do, you do not have the right to ignore the living after they are born. By history an current events conservatives have opposed ALL coordinated efforts by government to help the LIVING poor, the low-income, and middle-class citizens. Back when America was supposed to be a "God fearing country," here is how this conservative world was before unions, minimum wage, restrictions on corporate power, state rights, etc:

    From July 4, 1776, until the Great Depression America was more fascist then Democratic. For example, the Constitution as originally implemented applied only to white male Protestant Anglo-Saxons property owners who were either born to wealth or were smart and ruthless enough to obtain it; and for decades only those people were allowed to vote.

    Conservative principals of small government and little regulation served the interests of an American aristocratic oligarchy at the expense of all others, including white indentured servants, African American slaves, Indians, and the men, women, and children of working class Americans of all races who were underpaid, underfed, and overworked.

    With wages at subsistence levels and no "safety net" to protect the sick, injured, and mentally ill from destitution even little children were forced – by the prospect of starvation – to help support their families by working in factories, and they can be seen in Lewis Hines photos of "Child Labor in America 1908-1912(http://www.historyplace.com/index.html).

    State Rights and slavery were major reasons for the Civil War; but southern conservative attitudes were not changed then or now by their loss of it. How southern conservatives brutally treated African Americans around the turn of the 20th century can be seen in the following lynching photography sites:
    http://www.americanlynching.com/pic2.htm and http://withoutsanctuary.org/main.html.

    Even WWI veterans did not escape the evils of conservatism. In the summer of 1932 thousands of WWI veterans and their wives and children marched on Washington to petition for advance payment of a bonus they had been promised for wartime service, that was not due until 1945. Congress refused to grant early payment; and, after the veterans refused to disperse, President Hoover allowed 'General Douglas, leading four troops of cavalry, six tanks, and a column of infantry (with fixed bayonets and teargas), to destroy the encampment and drive the veterans and their wives and children into Maryland.' (http://www.worldwar1.com/dbc/bonusm.htm)

    • Breezeyguy

      The fact that government should defend the right to life, does not mean that it is obligated to promote the welfare state.

  • parthenon1

    What's new ! All proponents of abortioin are happy even eager to take the life of an infant who did nothing except have the bad luck of being born to an unfeeling woman. All while pushing hard to eliminate the death penalty for the worst of the worst...go figure!

  • Carol Jean Goodwin

    Planned Parenthood is anything but! It is planned homicide! They should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!

  • Ron Beal

    'Bloody and knockdown" convey the correct action needed to finally end the murder of unborn, partially born and fully birthed children in America. Kill the abortionist who has murdered 10,000 children, and you will be hunted down and locked away for life. How many years have we allowed this atrocity to take place in America? Reviewing the atrocities of Hitler, 'they' said "never again", except if we want to. Since that proclamation was made America has done absolutely NOTHING to prevent or stop genocide anywhere in the world- more Communist/Marxist/Nazi propaganda- and still, no one does anything!!!

    • Screeminmeeme

      bealman....Agreed. If we did to adults what we do to those poor babies, America would be rightly called the most brutally sadistic country on earth. We even give the most vile serial killer a sedative and knock-out drug before he is dispatched.

      • Ron Beal

        Agree!! I have never heard of any oversight on abortion clinics or the so-called 'industry'. I would bet that 'kill' animal shelters have more oversight than abortionist and their staffs! Clinton approved partial birth abortion, (?) but Obama is even more extreme in his ideology and the population reduction. Planned Parenthood, a cute non-political designation is straight from the Nazi regime, just a different name. Every abortionist should be arrested and tried for 1st degree murder, with every abortion a separate felony charge, with sentences to run consecutively.

  • BlueViolets

    Planned Parenthood has absolutely nothing to do with planning other than abortion and nothing to do with parenthood other than how to avoid the responsibility through abortion.

  • ARMYOF69

    Planned Parenthood is all about LEGALIZED MURDER.

  • http://www.decadnttravel.com/ sk4

    This organization needs to be shut down. My tax dollars should not go to something that I don't believe in. Let them open in up and run in a different format where those that want it can donate to its cause. What that woman did should not go unpunished, but since it's a liberal media and agenda, they will turn a blind eye (like Benghazi) and nothing will happen. Disgusting and shameful is what our country is becoming and all because of the Democrat machine/media.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dee.hoffman.75 Dee Hoffman

    Hey John,When the 12 -17 year old KIDDIES want to play house with each other and make more Kiddies.....whose fault is that !!!! YEAH, let's teach more KIDDIES that Sex is okay to experiment with and GEE WHIZ if you make a mistake you can just haul THE FETUS in your belly to the Murder Room ! And, heaven forbid if it is still living after the torturous abortion, then YOU CAN watch that little life stabbed to death by the Doc !!!Rape and Incest is another matter when it comes to a woman's choices.These youngsters are having FUN and then that Precious Piece of FUN pays the consequences and has to be murdered..I love my LIFE and I am full of Gratitude that I was allowed to be born.Are you happy John that you were able to be born and live a Life???

  • Juan Motie

    And the democrats (AKA party of death) war against women continues ...

  • Lee

    Roe vs. Wade DID NOT legalize abortion. Courts do not make law, legislatures do. Courts decide individual cases and their decisions apply to those cases alone. If we are to put an end to the murder of the unborn, we must realize that abortion can still be made illegal in any county or state. It is entirely up to the people to decide for themselves and to ignore Roe vs. Wade, it means absolutely nothing. Stop letting the murderers define law.

    • jas1019

      Judicial activism does make law, not confirm or deny it. SCOTUS created law with Obamacare.

    • texan texan

      Why did the Founding Fathers come up with judicial systems, including high level courts. Is that the commie Constitution. Thought it was the original. Think yiu are a tad bit way off.

      • Lee

        Article One Section One of the United States Constitution states, "All legislative powers herein granted are vested in Congress." The word "all" here means what? Some? No it means all! This thus means that courts don't make law, they apply the law as written or delivered to them from the legislature. Their decisions, often dubious at best, thankfully only apply to the case being decided. It is you who understands very little.

  • pduffy

    "I've noticed that everybody that is pro-abortion has already been born" - Ronald Reagan

  • drattastic

    Okay I'll say it and feel free to call me heartless. For the women who are using Planned Parenthood for their primary purpose (baby killing) , I don't really much care what happens to them. There I said it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-A-Bullard-Jr/1494713236 William A. Bullard Jr.

    Our House is unclean; it must be purged of heretics and the nonbeliever, and repurified. We are Judaeo-Christians, all, we have far far more that unites us than divides us. The heretic, the abortionist must be prayed for but must be shown the door, publicly if needs be. Abortion is not only the Herodic murder of "all" the innocent it is a program of state sponsored genocide that the white race is unconsciously assisting in, in its own extinction for the purposes of an evil power hungry secular humanist liberal elite that will use any 'cause celeb' to further its own will to its own power, not that they love Muslims, blacks,browns, purples, or homosexual deviancy but becuse that they love their power the more they will advocate anything that will advance it.

  • jas1019

    Planned Parenthood has been beating us over the head with the club of the courts for years. It's time to get smarter and play by the same rules they play by.
    If you can't beat them. Keep suing them. Costing them money in legal fees, in civil courts to win civil judgments.
    Just pray they get a conservative judge.

  • Cuz

    Defund these liberal bigots

  • underthewire

    Shut them down one lawsuit at a time.. These butcher shops make money for killing babies. And tax dollars to boot.
    And we are asked to protect dogs and cats. Where is the wonderful EPA on this? oh I forgot, there more concerned with minnows.

  • AZWarrior

    Defund PP, not military and veterans!

  • coolercoleman

    Democrats hate women and babies. They are just a convenient tool to use during elections and when they are trying to erode the second amendment. Just like when the president used the dead children at Sandy Hook.

    • texan texan

      What crazy logic. The Democrats have a ton of women legislators and most women vote Demo ratio. This is a very sic, sick analysis. Your illustrious Rep party just said you mostly represe t old white men.

  • agbjr

    There is absolutely no LEGAL argument for Planned Parenthood receiving public funding; it is a private organization. Of course these same persons who demand OUR taxes support Planned Parenthood also demand the 'right' to decide the membership qualifications for the non-public privately funded Boy Scouts of America. Liberals are frankly the most valueless and immoral hypocrites ever placed on earth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ILoveZ Debra Moody

    Every conception is an act of God! It is every womans decision as to what to do with it. If they want to MURDER an unborn child it's between them and God. If they decide to get an abortion they take a very dangerous risk, possibly their own death. Those people who did that to that woman AFTER she changed her mind needs to be thrown in jail!

  • http://www.facebook.com/thomas.gill.71404 Thomas Gill

    Moost ALL of you have missed the point about abortion.It is call about eugenics,and the desire of Margret Sanger,and other elirists,to rid the population of blacks and others they deem "undesirable".It was never about a woman's choice,because that is a fake choice.To say that it is your body andyou have the right to abortabortion is false doctrine used by leftists.If they believe in it they would be out supporting the use of heroin and any other drug,because it isis " your body"

  • Marine Mom

    No woman, this day and age, HAS to get pg. It should, therefore, NOT be the responsibility of anyone but herself, and her monies, to do what she feels she has to do. I do not care about it, really. Except that my dollars should NOT go to help her out of a situation that she is totally in charge of. Who started this idea? Now the liberal left acts as if we want all these unwanted babies. Huh? The ones on welfare never get an abortion....that would be cutting off YET another check! Not to mention a bigger free house, and more times to visit an aircondioned doctors office with 5 chillen with sniffles. And, they bring a big "jethro basket" to feed out of. No, the women that want an abortion are professional ones that just don't want the chain dragging'em down. Abortion would be not so onous on us if only done for medical reasons and rape. Then, tax dollars would be better served, altho still not right for those religious enough to oppose it. And for the professional women or smarter women, didn't they know better? How many "oops" really do exist in one-night stands? Semper Fi

    • texan texan

      Many forms of birth control fail. If you do not understand that, then you need to do some low level reading. Your tax dollars do not support abortion. That's illegal already. PP provides birth control to prevent pregnancies.

      • William McClure

        Then why does Planned Parenthood NEED taxpayer funding? Do we just have their sayso where it goes?

      • Marine Mom

        Won't when obozocare gets in full swing.

  • oldfartAmerican

    The liberals are all so intent on saving and protecting the lives of children by banning guns, where is the sympathy for the aborted child? Hypocrites as usual!

    • texan texan

      What about capital punishment. That's taking a sin er's life.

      • oldfartAmerican

        An unborn child is innocent, a murderer chose his sin, take his life!

      • oldfartAmerican

        An unborn child is completely innocent! A murdere made the choise to kill, kill him! Easy!

  • Greg Larson

    Obama and his Tribe should be prosecuted for Mass Murder and punished as such!!

  • Tin Values

    And you will know them by their works.
    These people don't help with planning. They are trying to destroy life.
    Too bad the Kenyan village idiot wasn't aborted. Hard to say it now, but the signs were out there. Yet they put their faith in a guy who did nothing good for Americans.

  • brazuca

    Funny how these so called scientists find some sort of bacteria and they say there was life on such planet but a life in a woman's womb is not life!?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Stout/1032728419 Dave Stout

    Some call it murder. Barbaric at the least. A womens right to choose??America we have sunk to the depth of sin and are paying for it n so many ways. God puts a high priority on human life. Women you have choices, you will znswer to God for that decision...God loves you and he loves each beating heart

    • texan texan

      Hey Dave, why do most conservatives support capital punishment. That's taking a real, loving persons life. If yiu protect a fetus, protect a sinner. Put him/her in jail for life. Hypocrisy for sure

      • dntmkmecomoverther

        ...Hey tex, yet another ignorant rant. Comparing an innocent child to a convicted criminal; yeah, that takes a special kind of stupid.

  • bob novak

    My question is unless this woman was tied down, why didn't she leave?

  • simmss

    I know that vengence is yours God, but the thought of a human doing this to a unborn and in actuality, they are alive as the best doctors have proven, not some group of half-baked nut jobs with a white smock on pretending to be medical people.

  • CajunPatriot

    In the mid 1970s I was an idealistic college student. One day a priest came up to me and asked me to follow him. I did, thinking he needed some help lifting some things because I saw a moving van there earlier that morning. As I walked through the gates of the university to the churches and businesses located on the next street, the priest led me to a building with a sign on a window painted in shoe polish "Women's Center." To the rear of this bland building to a dumpster the priest took me.

    He rifled through the contents in the dumpster and brought out a black trash bag. He opened it in front of me and asked me to put out my hand. Into my hand he put dis-membered parts of a baby. As blood dripped through my fingers I became so horrified and repulsed that I began to retch violently. I could not stop retching for about 10 minutes. That was my initiation to the bloody murderous abortion industry.

    Since that time I have helped form and volunteer at several different Women's Crisis Centers, offering support, adoption, and abortion alternatives, life for death.

    We peacefully protested several abortion mills and were successfully used by God to shut one down. Abortion is genocide especially on the African-American culture and community. Most abortion clinics are located in or at the edge of traditional African-American communities according to Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s niece.

  • texan texan

    No American tax dollars fund any abortion...PP or anyone. It's illegal via Hyde Amendment. Tax funds go to PP for their non abortion services....pap smears, Sdt testing, birth control. This has veen documented as nauseous. But low information people really can't believe this. You say the money is fungible. No its not. Go prove PP comingles funds. Of course, a botched abortion is horrible but there are surgical mistakes every day. Doctors get sued all the time. Remember you guys are for tort reform so patients can't sue doctors. You will never believe facts so rant on. Very sad.

    • dntmkmecomoverther

      Ya know, for a fellow with 'texan' as his moniker, you're a complete ignoramus. PP doesn't use tax dollars to fund abortion...you must be from Mars, not Texas. The proof would be for PP to prove they don't co-mingle their funding; not the tax payer. And 'tort reform' has to do not with forbidding lawsuits, but addressing the frivolous suits. You must be a special kind of ignorant.

    • cmjay

      Who are you calling LOW INFORMATION PEOPLE ? Your IGNORANCE also shows you need REMEDIAL courses in SPELLING and VOCABULARY. The correct word is STD and what the heck is FUNGIBLE - a type of FUNGUS?

  • VanceJ

    sickening !!!!

  • danclamage

    On the legislative side, how about heavily regulating the abortion industry? We regulate coal and gas, and those don't normally present personal imminent threats to anybody's life, the way these abortion butchers do. Regulate PP right out of business!

  • MontieR

    I despise my government STEALING my tax dollars to fund, Murder Incorporated AKA planned parenthood.

  • Patricia Zoller

    Planned Parenthood needs to be closed down. We don't need them for anything. This would save taxpayer dollars and we would be rid ot these murderers. If somebody needs an abortion for medical reasons, Im sure a better doctor could be found to do it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/truman.berst Truman Berst

    Evil dictator Obama must be impeached! How many American's must suffer and die from his bloody deeds? And we are not forgetting those who aided him.

  • SofiesVoice

    Evil, just plain Evil......Women's Butcher Shops..masquerading as help for women when actually they are murdering helpless little human beings and also hurting those uninformed women who need counseling about options for facing their "problem" which happened by making bad choices. These babies are NOT problems.

    Come on people, get adamant about defunding these Butcher Shops and closing out their murder clinics. Make your voices heard!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbjeanpatton Barb Patton

    Was this patient a black woman? I merely ask because these are the people that frequent these abortions clinics the most, and, do not teach their children to abstain from sex.

  • mwl

    Planned Parenthood and the democratic socialist party demand abortions be funded through whatever means they can get the cash. There are no clean abortions, just dead babies. Every 96 seconds a baby is aborted in the US. If you research the procedure you'll know how brutal this killing is. Animals have better rights in slaughter houses. There are inspectors, govt agencies and overseers on each animal that is slaughtered.
    democrat leftists think they are liberal so they demand abortions and protest the death sentence on convicted murderers and rapists. Child abusers have been handed their victims in the name of the family unit from liberal judges. Then you see these child caretakers convicted of murder or the child was abused to insanity.
    Planned Parenthood is a govt funded death machine and its only gonna get worse with obamacare. The govt wants to remove any responsibility from the "adults" and have the govt decide the course of action. This is how China does it. Thats why theres agencies trying to save chinese baby girls from the hatchet.
    Mike in Afghanistan

  • http://myconservativeperspective.wordpress.com/ Chuck Fowler

    Obama and the Democrats make a lot of noise about looking out for women's rights and minorities, including blacks, and give Planned Parenthood about half a billion taxpayer dollars per year (and I pay taxes but wouldn't voluntarily support PP), but the fact is that the majority of abortions they perform are for young, black women -- these are the women who probably need the most help and who PP instead puts at risk, because PP's real bottom line is their profit.

    Also, remember that Obama, as a state senator, voted for infanticide, letting babies who had survived an abortion be left on a hospital table or in a laundry bin to die.

    Also, remember PP was found by Margaret Sanger, an atheist and racial bigot who hated blacks. Roe v. Wade, instead of being the landmark Supreme Court decision for women's rights it's touted as, has proved instead to legalize a form of genocide -- over 50 million so far and counting.

    • cmjay

      You're right - Margaret Sanger advocated BLACK GENOCIDE and founded Planned Parenthood. She should be so PROUD that Obama and the LEFT are keeping her DREAM alive. It only shows that we don't need GUNS to KILL people.

  • Nathan51

    Over 30 years ago immediately after graduation from college, my sister worked in a local "children's hospital" for the state as a "counselor" for women considering an abortion. A woman brought in her 8 to 9 months pregnant daughter for an abortion. My sister told her "do you think you waited long enough?" She informed them that it much too late in the pregnancy to legally allow an abortion. Delivering the baby and placing it up for adoption was their only option. After yelling screaming and cursing my sister they left her office. Out in the hall way within a few feet of her office the girls water broke and she went into labor. A short time later my sister got a heads up on what was about to happen next and she gowned up and went into the delivery room. A full term healthy baby was delivered but the doctor refused to suction the mouth and nose to clear breathing passages. "He didn't want to be sued for delivering a "live" baby they didn't want"! My sister got into a big fight with the delivery doctor arguing that what he was doing was infanticide. He had her thrown out of the delivery room. The baby cleared its own airway and so they put it in an interior room away from the public on the back side of her office. No birth certificate was issued. For the next several days she had to listen to this child scream as it was slowly starved to death! A black nurse told her "Do you think this is something new? It happens all the time". The day after the child died my sister turned in her resignation and told them in no uncertain terms what they could do with their job! This is a dirty little side of the abortion mill business that no one to this day will acknowledge.

    • Esther

      Thank you for telling this story.

  • John

    This is a horrifying story. I can't believe such horrors are happening in this day and age. This needs to be stopped.

  • Doc Hern

    I believe Planned Parenthood and de-funding our military and on going wars is the "Muslim and Chief's way of wipeing out millions of Americans while we all just sit and watch.

  • celticwaryor

    I think an appropriate amount for compensation should be, oh - how about 540 million dollars!

  • Chief47

    Hope the lady wins about $541 million from these idiots and puts them out of business for good. Guess they don't "plan" very well anyway if they can't even find their "instruments of torture".

  • Tony

    I believe we should sequester Planned Parenthood

  • daves

    We should all work to prevent abortions but we need to be honest with the facts.

    Too many lies in this article. Planned Parenthood does NOT have an abortion quota, they much prefer to prevent pregnancies than to give abortions. Also, the percentage of injuries during abortion surgery is down drastically since abortion has been legal.

    • FREECONSERVATIVE

      I am curious where you got your information? Did you or do you work for planned parenthood? Thanks for replying

      • daves

        I do not and have not ever worked for Planned Parenthood. I get my information from various articles and often check factcheck.org to see what is true.

        • FREECONSERVATIVE

          As I said above thanks for your honesty and I look forward to using your factcheck.org website on my own. Have a great day

  • http://twitter.com/msmoommist Ms MoomMist

    What do expect from a bunch of butchers?

  • http://www.facebook.com/sharon.moore.58760 Sharon Moore

    This is an awful atrocity. Women are definitely in danger. I will pray about this. I definitely believe that there is life at conception!!!

  • FREECONSERVATIVE

    Daves
    Thanks for you honest and open answer I look forward to using your fact checking website in the future as I do not trust the media to get anything right or be honest no matter what stripe.

  • RageFury

    Even if you are Pro-Choice and support legal abortion, you cannot support this butchery and malpractice. This is a vagrant misapplication of Tax payer dollars in more ways than one.

  • djmdgo

    See the book "Lime Five". "Grand Illusion". Banned Parenthood was started by racist/elitist Margaret Sanger. Supported eugenics. Hobnobbed with the likes of Hitler and Lenin. "Minorities are noxious weeds to be eradicated." Hitler employed many of her suggestions on how to get rid of the Jews.
    Goebbels, Hitlers right hand "man". " A lie repeated often enough becomes truth." Banned Parenthood is a filthy lie straight from the pits of hell. It is MURDER! Those who claim to support so-called "choice"...have you ever seen the results of an abortion??? Of course not or you would not say it's okey unless you were an ice cube.