One of the things that boggle my mind is to hear so many self-professed Christians say that God or Jesus were wrong or lied about things. Why would anyone want to worship a God that is capable of being wrong or lying. Why would anyone place the hope of their eternal salvation to an incompetent lying deity of any kind?
I often ask people this question when they fail to take the Bible literally as written, especially in Genesis 1-11. The entire Gospel message of Jesus and salvation rests on the accuracy of those first eleven chapters of Scripture and if you don’t believe them to be true, then how can you believe anything else in the Bible including the New Testament message of salvation through Jesus Christ?
“I think you’re making a lot of assumptions based in a perspective that was handed to you from our culture, and the way we think in the modern world is very different than how people thought in the pre-modern world.”
“To just see a few words that somebody said, that Jesus said about Noah, and you assume that you can get into Jesus’ mind and know exactly how he thought about the whole situation, and how He considered history versus myth versus whatever – how do you know?”
“And even if He was wrong, even if He did believe that Noah was a historical person, or Adam was a historical person, and ended up being wrong, I don’t understand how that even would deny the divinity of Christ. The whole idea of the divinity of Christ being fully human and fully God, that God lowered Himself to become a human being with a human brain, in a human culture with human language and human needs and human limitations.”
“The point is it wouldn’t freak me out if He was wrong about it, in His human side. But I still don’t see the issue. If Noah and Adam were mythical ideas, the point of what Jesus was saying still applies to me. … It has very little to do, in my perspective, with Jesus trying to lay out a history of the world for a historical-minded people. … Even if Jesus knew that Noah and Adam were mythical, but knew He was talking to people who thought they were real, that’s another possibility. Jesus was just referring to a story he was part of to these Jewish people that know that story.”
Starting with the first paragraph, Gungor fails to realize that Jesus was the Creator of the world and universe. He is outside of time and yet stepped into time for the purpose of sacrificing Himself on our behalf. Ephesians 1:3-5 tells us that Jesus chose us before the foundation of the world. He was not limited to the knowledge of the time He walked on earth. He has, does and always will exist in all time for all eternity. By limiting Jesus to only knowing the culture of one small point in time is limiting the Creator to His own creation.
Paragraph three starts out with ‘And even if He was wrong…’ Scripture clearly states that God, including Jesus, is incapable of lying, deceiving or being wrong. God is all knowing, past, present and future. The Bible teaches us that Jesus was directly involved in creation. He was there when Adam was formed from the dust of the ground. He was there when Noah and his family closed up the ark as the waters began to destroy the world. To think that Jesus was wrong about them being historical figures utterly destroys the deity of Jesus. He can’t be an all knowing infinite Creator God if He wasn’t there from before the beginning of time.
Gungor goes on to say that it wouldn’t freak him out if Jesus was wrong. I can only say that this statement reveals the degree to which Gungor has compromised his faith with the ways of the world. He sounds no different than an evolutionist who denies the biblical account creation and the first eleven chapters of Genesis. Gungor doesn’t understand that without them, the Cross collapses and falls to the dust of oblivion and utter despair. How can Christ be the second Adam if there wasn’t really a first Adam?
I could write page after page of comments that show the problems with Gungor’s statement and understanding of Scripture and Jesus, but I trust you get my point. Based upon Gungor’s statement, I would strongly urge you to save you money and not buy any of his music or attend any of his concerts. Find another Christian singer to follow who has a more realistic understanding of the Bible, God, Jesus and message of salvation.