London Gets First Atheist Church

London’s first atheist church is ready to open its doors for its first “service” this weekend, and Londoners don’t quite know what to make of it.

Founded by comedians Sanderson Jones and Pippa Evans, the church service is described as more of a “foot stomping show.” A speaker and band are planned for each monthly service.

The notion of people who don’t believe in God having a church was too much for some people to wrap their heads around.

The Rev. Saviour Grech, of St. Peter and St. Paul Roman Catholic Church, said, “How can you be an atheist and worship in a church? Surely it’s a contradiction of terms. … It is important to debate and engage with atheists but for them to establish a church like any other religious denomination is going too far.”

Rev. Grech, like many people, misses the point. Atheism is and always has been a religion. Establishment of the London church is, if anything, a refreshing dose of honesty.

In the U.S., atheist churches and church-like groups are nothing new., based in Pennsylvania, is one example. According to the website FAQs, the site was founded in order to ordain atheist ministers so they could perform marriages, funerals and other ceremonies. The site’s operators claim to have legally ordained more than 6,900 ministers.

The modern atheist movement likes to call itself a “nonbelief,” a phrase that has been widely picked up by non-atheists. The implication is that atheism is somehow different from all religions, that it is unique and therefore requires special treatment.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation and other atheist groups have gotten a lot of mileage out of that spin in courts.

But atheism isn’t a “nonbelief.” If it were, then other people’s religious expressions wouldn’t torment atheists the way they claim in their myriad lawsuits.

Rather, atheism professes a very active negative belief that produces atheists’ worldview and motivates their activism.

As the First Church of Atheism site states:

“The First Church of Atheism is formed around the belief that the mysteries of life can be explained through science and reason. We aim to provide a place for atheists to become ordained, for free, as well as a hub for atheists to find ministers to perform their ceremonies. This is our doctrine:

“Nothing exists besides natural phenomena. Thought is merely a function of that natural phenomena. Death is complete, and irreversible. We have faith solely in humankind, nature, and the facts of science.”

Pretty strange for a “nonbelief” to have ordained ministers and use words like “belief,” “doctrine” and “faith,” huh?

The word “atheism” simply means “without God.” The word “religion” comes from the word “religare,” meaning “to bind.” “Religion” therefore is the state of being bound to an idea and the worldview, beliefs and morality that idea generates.

Other religions such as Buddhism and Taoism don’t require or encourage any belief in God, yet no one disputes they are religions because they do indeed “bind” their followers to a central belief about the nature of the universe.

And so it is with atheism. But point that out to one of the “nones,” and you’ll likely get a bumper sticker response, such as “calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.”

Bad analogies don’t change the facts. Atheists have ordained ministers, churches, a worldview, beliefs, doctrine and a throbbing need to proselytize about the superiority of their religion.

Pretending to be a “nonbelief” has given atheist activists a political advantage in establishing theirs as the de facto view of government, effectively a state religion that is actively forcing Christians out of public life in increments.

It’s time atheists ‘fess up and join the rest of the world’s religions.

620 thoughts on “London Gets First Atheist Church

  1. Unreal!! What will be the topic at hand, evolution? What will be their theme song, the birds and the bees or part man, part monkey~.

  2. ”“The First Church of Atheism is formed around the belief that the mysteries of life can be explained through science and reason.”

    To believe that the mysteries of life can be explained by science takes a degree of faith. It’s a philosophical issue.

    1. Morality cannot be defined by science. The strongest animals surviving in their adaptations may or may not be true, this cannot apply to reality and still be a “moral” outlook. Otherwise you would see people organizing the mass murder of the “undesirables” as been demonstrated in the past for 100 to 300 million people in the last century alone, ALL of which were carried out by atheists for atheistic “dogma”.

      1. Can anyone explain how the concept of Morality evolved?
        There is no morality in nature the strongest always wins unless an accident intervenes

        1. Yes. But you’d have to actually care that they were doing so. Do you? Or do you prefer to pretend that they have no explanations for that?

        2. I would be very interested in hearing how they thought the concept of morality evolved, even if I would think it was nonsense.

        3. I’d explain it as I read about it in the book “The Selfish Gene” by science fiction author Naturist (Nudist) Zoo Keeper Prof. Dick Dawkins.

          In a nut shell,,, Dick really has no idea but he sure has a helluva imagination.

        4. Oh, and why are many atheists for gun control? Are they against religious people making themselves “fit” to survive?

    2. I’m not sure if churches are taxed in England, but if they are, the only reason for this is a tax exempt status.

    3. Amen, sister. Since “real truth”, i.e., the mind of God, is unknowable to humans, and since the Bible tells us we walk by faith, and not by sight, all humans who gather for any reason are simply assuming a behavior pattern that merely states where they place their faith: science, God Almighty, government, or vanilla ice cream. A great many of those will come to an eternity of regret, but, alas, that is not “our” problem.

    4. And to think, when I was going to “sunday school” as a kid, one of my teachers made the comment, “That as hard as the scientific community tries to disprove the teachings of the Bible, they end up proving more of it to be true”. And,she backed it up with accounts of current events that were in the news. The archaeological digs, especially in the middle east, have contributed to the truth of the Bible. Not all of the story has come out yet, but give it time. It will! All you nay sayers just keep it up. We’ll all get to see in the end. Some of us will just have better seats than others. If you catch my drift. :)

    5. Exactly right. You cannot prove by scientific means either the existence or nonexistence of God. Science has little to say on the subject. The entire existence of creation, plus billions of people who say they have personal evidence of God provides more “proof” than anything atheists can muster. Since it is actually more difficult to disprove the existence of God than to prove it, it actually takes a lot of “faith” (belief not based on evidence obvious to everyone) to be an atheist. In fact, atheism requires more blind faith than is required to be a Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc. So let them call it a religion, because it is. Besides, true Christianity is more about relationship than religion, anyway; it is about getting to know God. But you can’t possibly say there’s no God and know God.

      1. Yeah like same sex marriage, affirmative action, Gun Control to make us safer, Borrowing Billions of dollars to add to the economy to get us out of debt, The Fact of Evolution,

    1. To me, anyone who asserts as fact something that has not been proven, or that cannot be proved, is pushing religious doctrine. It is the height of arrogance for an atheist to claim that he is absolutely certain that there is no God.
      The only position on belief that doesn’t constitute unproven assumption is the position that agnostics take.
      It is time to separate government from the Atheist Church, was well as from Mosques, Temples, and other Churches.

    2. It’s almost like someone being an “atheist” doesn’t necessarily tell you that much about them. Oh wait, I forgot where I was. Labels tell you everything here.

        1. Yep, we’ve got plenty of evidence on YOU! The bible says ,”By their fruits ye shall know them.” YOUR rotten fruit says it all!

    3. We don’t. That’s why this article mentions the “church” was started as a joke.

      I thought conservatives knew how to READ at least? I guess not.

      1. You are the one that can’t read moron. Yes we understand it was started as a joke but if that were true,,explain to us with your staggering intellect, just what is the punch line? Because I don’t get it

        1. still no explanation though? Gee isn’t THAT unusual coming from atheists whose only response is to call people idiots and then they wonder why some of us call them “Just a punch in the face waiting to happen” You see an idiot, you kick their ass else shut your pie hole jughead

  3. This is just another slap in the face to good Christians, Take heart, this is prophecy and confirms Christians are on the right track.

    1. How is this a slap in the face of “Christians” .. Are you forced to attend and be offended by this atheist “church” ?

      1. I could ask the same thing about atheists. No one is forcing them to attend Christian churches, yet they are trying in vain to silence Christ’s followers – something that has been going on for centuries without success. God and his son Jesus Christ will never be silenced.

        1. So today they push your cult in schools . . . not workin out well I would suggest . . . contrast today to say the 50’s when kids walked to school safely, got an education, a career and became your parents.
          Different world today . . . many can’t add, most can’t spell, few have been exposed to Critical Thinking . . . but all have a VOTE . . . friggin scarey ! ! !

        2. but they are not subjected to a nativity scene on the county courthouse lawn, that is progress(ivism = communism)

        3. The Hell we don’t. I get sick of you atheists saying that crap, while you shove your religion of homosexuality, pornography, filth, then infiltrated our Church’s with homosexuals that molest small boys and have the arrogance to blame religion and their hypocrisy, when it is the homosexual that is the problem. Then when some pedophile does something like this in a public school. you all want sex crimes decriminalized. The atheist lgbt lobby has been trying to get age of consent laws lowered for boys in all fifty states. Then their is the same sex marriage argument proposed with the most asinine and mindless equality anyone allegedly having the monopoly on logic and reason, could possibly give as a logical argument. Atheists have fast become the most distrusted segment of society and their lack of belief is only a small part of why that is. It has more to do with their petty law suits and attack on Christmas and the Cross. You all think of yourselves as the Philosopher Kings of Science but when it comes to science, you push idiotic philosophy of global warming and that pathetic pile of piltdown paleontology and faux fossil fraud called evolution.

          Time and Time again, they get caught, fudging data, fabricating facts and manufacturing evidence. Rather than clean up their disgusting crimes of fraud, they just leave these artifacts of their imaginations, in the text books and continue teaching this junk science to our Children while they mock and ridicule the Bible in false comparisons with modern science books and bronze age superstition when the bible seems to be proven right regardless of its age, more all the time.

          You don’t like your children being taught moral codes and the values we hold dear that have built this country, then take em out and HOME SCHOOL EM! That is what WE have had to do and we pay taxes just as much as you do, Hoss. How you idiots can be so overzealous to protect the queers but not freedom of speech and religion Ill never know, but I see the double standards you godless idiots are famous for denying is alive and well when you want your own Church. While you bitchy little emotional tampons have been in our faces yelling out both sides of your Godless Mouths, we have seen a polarization, a chasm size gulf divide between the anti American Obamanoid zomies, atheists, queers, and those with the intellectual dishonesty to tell us in an age where the gun exists, that those who want to use them to do harm against us, can do it with impunity as you idiots actually want to make it against the law for Americans to defend themselves on a level playing field, by attacking the 2nd Amendment. In fact EVERYTHING about us, our culture that has made the American life the envy of the world, you morons have attacked coming up with the most idiotic excuses for it anyone with a lick of common sense, should put up with much less refrain from knocking you out cold just for trying. If you had not noticed during the Chick Fil-A fiasco, Americans have HAD ENOUGH of your communist agenda and your far left liberal ideas. Anymore, the mouthy atheists are just a punch in the face, waiting to happen. I hate em THAT MUCH so you can call me a hater and a bigot all you like because if all atheists think like YOU,, my hatred is justified. So express your phony self righteous indignation all you like atheist, I really don’t give damn because arguing with you idiots is a waste of time and beating the stupid out of ya seems to work a lot faster but more than that, seeing what you creeps have done to this country,,

          you simply deserve it

        4. YOU don’t have a right to push your atheistic ,darwininist, revisionist FILTH in front of other people’s children.WHAT makes YOUR myths more valid?

        1. Glad you have sense of humor. I like to read your posts. But. Some of them are LLLoooooonnnnggg.

          You probably could write a book. Have your own blog site? Yet?

  4. All while the world goes to hell.

    If you think this is bad, just wait until the vast majority of people will be atheists. They will try to stamp us out via mass murder, much like what happened in Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, and every other communist regime.

    Atheism is the number one killer of all of mankind throughout history. You turn your back on God, He turns your back on you.

      1. Shermer…Well, he certainly wasn’t a Christian. Tho raised in a Catholic home, he had great contempt for Christianity because he considered it weak. He was, however, smart enough to know that he could use it to gain the trust and acceptance of the German people.

        On the other hand, he admired Islam because he thought it was a strong and formidable religion.

        1. I CANNOT believe the cultural insensitivity I just read. Calling our ‘peace loving’ muslim brethren diaper heads is way off base, because it is actually a sheet they wear around their heads. Therefore, it would be more correct and less insensitive to refer to them as ‘sheetheads’.

        2. I know you are right, forgive me I am stuck on towel head or diaper head, all we have to do is look to the pa lie stinians, who were once led by a clown that thought cafe curtains were a fashion statement for head gear

        3. Hitler’s admiration for Islam was returned in kind. The Ba’athist Party was formed by an arab fan club of Hitler’s. During the late 1930’s, the arab ruler of what is now called “Palestine” sent a meesage to Hitler offering to send volunteers to help with the holocaust. Hitler thanked him, but said the help wasn’t needed — the task was well in hand.

          Atheism is a sort of Oedipus Complex. Man wants to murder God and possess “mother” earth for himself. The murder of two or three hundred million or so humans has resulted from the atheist’s perception that man is made in God’s image, so killing man is good practice for killing God.

        4. Yes, and remember Iran changed its name from persia to Iran at Nazi suggestion (Iran is a derivation of Aryan. Hitler saw Iran as an origin of the Aryan tribes)

        5. Hienrich Himler formed the Muslim Bosnian Waffen SS Division in 1942 and the muslims were so cruel on the Serb population that even then SS was shocked. Eventually the Mulim SS division was disbanded. In 1999, Bill Clinton bombed the Serbs and supported the Kosovo and Bosnian Muslims.
          The Serbs had fought an the American side in both world wars and Yugoslav farmers hid downed US fliers in 1944 from the Gestapo. In 1999, NATO even bombed Belgrade on the Serbian Orthodox Easter Sunday, because NATO did not know the differrence between the Julian and Gregorian calendars.
          Hillary may have convinced Bill Clinton to bomb Yugoslavia to get Monica off the front page. Now the muslims in Kosovo have destroyed 42 Christian Churches, set up Al Quida terrorist cells the heart of Europe, are selling drugs, and importing women from Eastern Europe to sell into white slavery. Bill Clinton is hugely popular and our pinko media has not said a word.

        6. what is this alleged god thing ? where are these alleged gods ? Not very helpful to protect innocent women or children bombed by Obusha or shot by General Electric executive boy Peter Lanza or being radiation cancer killed by Fukishima…. give me truth telling Atheists every time

        7. and fools right here in America want to embrace the source of those murders, they have been indoctrinated for many years by the first sleepers that came to the US from roosha in the 1920s. What a shame that FDR did not die in 1942, Malta might have turned out much different

        8. Interesting point. He admired Islam and Islamists apparently admired him. The similarity between extremist Islam and the Nazi philosophy is perhaps what drives the intellectual and actual descendants of those who funded Hitler to power. I say this because it is probably essentially the same groups who are backing the promotion of Islam and are relatively supportive of it. It is likely that Hitler was seen as a unifying force by the banksters who believed Hitler could unify Europe under a single currency. I believe they’ve expanded to seeing a world unified by a single currency with extreme Islam as a militant force for the NWO, bringing together the peoples of the world under a viciously suppressive pseudo-religious political philosophy that tolerates zero deviance.

        9. Yes, Screemin, Islam being an unholy marriage between
          religion and totalitarian government, which he also
          wanted. Amazing how many nuts mankind have let
          rule them over the ages. Will we never grow up ?

        1. Hitler was raised a Catholic, but he abandoned Catholicism and Christianity while still a young man. Late in life he toyed with ideas of old Nordic paganism (Wotan, Donner, Frigga, Freya, etc.), not because he believed it, but because it was a mythos of strength and courage that he thought would make good soldiers. He took control of the state Protestant churches, and persecuted Catholics and confessional Protestants. Not the way he slaughtered Jews, but it wasn’t pretty, either.

      2. He may as well have been. We all know where he is today, and it sure isn’t in Heaven with God. BO and all the rest will be joining him if they don’t repent.

      3. He was the First Greenie . . . here’s the proof . . .

        And Hitler also of course foreshadowed the Red/Green alliance of today. The Nazis were in fact probably the first major political party in the Western world to have a thoroughgoing “Green” agenda. I take the following brief summary from Andrew Bolt:

        Hitler’s preaching about German strength and destiny was water in the desert to the millions of Germans who’d been stripped of pride, security and hope by their humiliating defeat in World War I, and the terrible unemployment that followed.

        The world was also mad then with the idea that a dictatorial government should run the economy itself and make it “efficient”, rather than let people make their own decisions.

        The Nazis — National Socialists — promised some of that, and their sibling rivals in the Communist Party more.

        The theory of eugenics — breeding only healthy people — was also in fashion, along with a cult of health.

        The Nazis, with their youth camps and praise of strong bodies and a strong people, endorsed all that, and soon were killing the retarded, the gay and the different.

        Tribalism was popular, too. People weren’t individuals, but members of a class, as the communists argued, or of a race, as the Nazis said. Free from freedom — what a relief for the scared!

        You’d think we’d have learned. But too much of such thinking is back and changing us so fast that we can’t say how our society will look by the time we die.

        A KIND of eugenics is with us again, along with an obsession for perfect bodies.

        Children in the womb are being killed just weeks before birth for the sin of being a dwarf, for instance, and famed animal rights philosopher Peter Singer wants parents free to kill deformed children in their first month of life. Meanwhile support for euthanasia for the sick, tired or incompetent grows.

        1. Hitler got his eugenics program from us and took it a lot further than anyone here had suspected at the time

        2. tampon terrorists will “believe” any drivel made up by their Nazi Pimp Pope Joe Ratziner alias BENEdick …. Vatican criminal believers don’t care that mllions of boys are raped by priests, instead they are obsessed with 3 centimeter long embryonic things instead of 20 inch born babies circumcised brutally without pain killers…. religion in most forms as practiced are mostly evil

      4. What has America become????

        Has America become the land of special interest and home of the
        double standard? Let’s see: If we lie to the Congress, it’s a felony
        and if Congress lies to us it’s just politics. If we dislike a black person,
        we’re a racist and if a black dislikes whites, it’s their 1st Amendment
        right. The government spends millions to rehabilitate criminals and
        they do almost nothing for the victims. In public schools you can teach
        that homosexuality and lesbianism is ok, but you better not use the
        word God in the process. You can murder a child in the mothers womb,
        but it’s wrong to execute a mass murderer. We don’t burn books in
        America, we now rewrite them. We got rid of the communist & socialist
        threat by renaming them progressives. If you protest against Obama’s
        policies you’re a terrorist, but if you burn an American flag or George
        Bush in effigy, it’s your 1st Amendment right.

        You can have pornography on TV or the internet, but you better not
        put a nativity scene in a public park during Christmas. In America,
        criminals are now called sick people. The government takes money
        from those who work hard & gives it to those who are lazy. Parenting
        has been replaced with Ritalin & video games. The land of opportunity
        is now the land of hand outs.

        And how do we handle a major crisis today? The Government
        appoints a committee to determine who’s at fault, then threatens
        them, passes a law, raises our taxes, then tells us the problem is
        solved so they can get back to their reelection campaign.

        1. yes, you can thank those like athiestnavyvet for all the crying bull$hit about God in schools and nativity scenes on county property

      5. Hitler was a twisted man who’s religious views were convoluted and self-serving. He saw himself as all-powerful and deserving of worship,literally. Whatever his views of “God” were paled compared to his views of himself.

        1. Martin Luther’s god & Joe Ratzinger’s Catholic god were Hitler’s gods…. “gott MIT UNS” was put on every military belt buckle, TALK ABOUT Clinton below the belt ?

        1. or violence or coercion of others to commit violence. Things like government and religion are created by people and thus only as good or bad as those people and those who act in their name.

      1. Karl Marx was and atheist and a sadist. I know that Obama, Hillary and Bill Clinton love Karl Marx. They have no decency, honesty, ethics, kindness or mercy, and should be tarred, feathered and run out of town.

        1. “They have no decency, honesty, ethics, kindness or mercy”
          You might have a pedestal to stand on if conservatives had any of these traits.

        2. Really? Do you actually believe what you posted? Yep, conservatives have no kindness or mercy at all, if you turn a blind eye to all the decent, kind and merciful things done by religious organizations, which we all know left wingers support vehemently.

          Remember, it is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

        3. All you have to do is read the comment section of conservative blogs like this to see how absolutely DISHONEST and MEAN SPIRITED you people are. The fool is you.

        4. I know that Bill Clinton is the most popular and gifted pilitician in the USA, but he did not tell his people in his Convention speech what he did with Monica in the Oval Office. Was that disrespectful to Democrats.

        5. Republicans don’t even have any former presidents that they aren’t embarrassed to ask to their RNC! …

        6. Bill Clinton exposed himself to Paula Jones while she was a Arkansas State employee. Was that disgusting? Hillary blamed everything on the “great right wing conspiracy trying to destroy my husbands reputation”, and our pinko media bought it hook, line and sinker. They never even asked her a question!!!
          I am still looking for a decent, honest American reporter seeking the TRUTH. Lenin said that a journalist must be a Bolshevik, and a Bolshevik can’t believe in God.

        7. Bill Clinton told Janita Beroderick to “put ice on that lip” after he attacked her in the Democrat campaign office. When Kathleen Willey complained about Bill propositioning her, her cat was hung from the porch and her tires were punctured. Teddy Kennedy, Obama and Bill Clinton are the modern Democrats, dishonest, unethical, cruel, remoseless, and amoral.

        8. Mike6,
          Most people don’t even care about the facts.
          You feel like a friend. Just keep talking truth.

        9. Thank you for your nice comment. Obama and Moochlle can’t handle the Truth. She is eating too many fine steaks and getting fat were it shows the most. Since Hillary is a fall down drunk and a dumb lesbian, the Chicago Democrats have started dreaming about running Moochelle for President in 2016. God help America.

        10. moochelle is a ho bag and has her daughters under construction-and what’s with that fat freeloading mother of hers?

        11. I’m guessing this is your sarcasm.

          Who cares what Chelsea is doing. Ad hominem attacks hold no water. Clinton was and still is the man who loves power and money, and uses women. Or abuses them. Some cases both. Another narcissist.

        12. The United States of America passed away on November 6, 2012
          with an almost silent whimper. She was 236 years old. The grand
          old lady died of neglect, stupidity, arrogance and pure abuse at the
          hands of both her leaders and its ignorant populace. She will be
          survived by the Socialist Democratic Republic of Obamerica or SDRO.

          Also killed in this same massive, catastrophic, progressive wreck
          were personal freedoms, American values, exceptionalism, The
          Constitution, economic growth, conservatism, fiscal sanity, American
          unity, free markets, life’s sanctity, marriage between man and woman, Republicanism, free will, self-reliance and many more are so mutilated as to be unrecognizable any longer.

          Born: July 04, 1776
          Died: November 06, 2012

        13. Semper Fi, Brother Semper Fi!
          Thanks for your service, Marine.

          I agree with your premises on the death of America; however, we just have to keep faith with those that believe that She’ll be coming back with a roar.

          US COMBAT VETERAN: Vietnam ’68 – 69; 1st Cavalry Division (AM).

        14. another load of manure, you should have joined in with those a$$wipes at the winter soldiers get together. Hey then you could have met the 4 month super war hero and highly decorated veteran johnny boy kerry. Maybe you could hold hands and sing. You and the rest of the clowns that spew lies about what this country has done to help people all over the world should pack your bags and move to chinkeeville, the commies need help with their propaganda……..

        15. You are correct and Obama is an impostor like Lenin. Vladimir Lllych Uliaynov destroyed Imperial Russia which had the finest art, literaure and ballet in the world, and replaced it with horrible social realism and his Bolsheviks hacks. Obama is destoying our wonderful America and replacing it with his Kenyan marxism. God help the USA.

        16. The USA does need help with delusional people like you in its midst. Try throwing out some more nutbaggery.

        17. 60% of Russia was impoverished under the Czar, both Amerika & Russia today are enslaved by banksters, polluters & theocrats …wake up people, vote for Democracy not liars like Obombneycare killer insurance company criminals VOTE GREEN PARTY @JillStein2012 843-926-1750 @LarryAccomplish

        18. You are correct that the Obamacare “death panels” will give blacks who voted for Obama special consideration as they get now with Affirmative Action. Sick, tired, old, white men will be told to shut up and make way for young people who like Obama.
          Obamacare is a power grab to keep Obama and Moochelle in the White House for the next 12 years like FDR, who was a pinko and a despot.

        19. Another Neo-con who thinks this country ends with Obama.

          News flash, Bush, just like Clinton, and many before him, destroyed this nation. Each president furthers big spending, more loss of liberties and further from the constitution.

          You know, these things were occurring while we invaded other countries illegally and telling the world with our sec. of state that half a million dead iraqi children as a result of our sanctions was “worth it”. ( Under a democrat president no less )

          Time to stop drinking the Republic kool-aid and understand both parties are crap.

          P.S – Sanctity of Marriage is irrelevant to the constitution, fiscal sanity, economic growth and free will. It’s a religious belief. Shocking to Christians here, but ‘marriage’ existed long before your religion popped up.


          Death is certain but the Bible speaks about untimely death!

          Make a personal reflection about this…….

          Very interesting, read until the end……

          It is Written in the Bible (Galatians 6:7)

          ‘Be not deceived; God is not mocked:
          For whatsoever a man sow, that shall he also reap…
          Here are only some men and women who mocked God:

          John Lennon (Singer)
          Some years before, during his interview with
          An American Magazine, he said:
          Christianity will end, it will disappear.
          I do not have to argue about that…
          I am certain. Jesus was ok, but his subjects
          were too simple, today we are more famous than Him” (1966).
          Lennon, after saying that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus Christ,
          Was shot six times.

          Tancredo Neves (President of Brazil)
          During The Presidential campaign, he said if he got 500,000 votes
          From his party, not even God would remove him from Presidency.
          Sure he got the votes, but he got sick a day before being made President,
          Then he died.

          Cazuza (Bi-sexual Brazilian
          Composer, singer and poet)
          During a show in Canecio (Rio de Janeiro),
          While smoking his cigarette, he puffed out some
          smoke into the air And said: “God, that’s for you.”
          He died at the age of 32 of LUNG CANCER in a horrible manner.

          The man who built the Titanic.
          After the construction of Titanic, a reporter asked him how safe the
          Titanic would be. With an ironic tone he said: “Not even God can sink it”
          The result: I think you all know what happened to the Titanic.

          Marilyn Monroe (Actress)
          She was visited by Billy Graham during a presentation of a show.
          He said the Spirit of God had sent him to preach to her.
          After hearing what the Preacher had to say, She said:
          “I don’t need your Jesus”.
          A week later, She was found dead in her apartment.

          Bon Scott (Singer)
          The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang:
          “Don’t stop me; I’m going down all the way, down the highway to hell”.
          On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been
          choked by his own vomit.

          Campinas (IN 2005)
          In Campinas , Brazil , a group of friends, drunk,
          Went to pick up a friend……

          The mother accompanied her to the car and was so worried about the drunkenness
          of her friends and she said to the daughter holding her hand, who was already seated in the car:

          “My Daughter, Go With God And May He Protect You.”
          She responded: “Only If He (God) travels In the trunk, cause inside here….. It’s already full.”
          Hours later, news came by that they had been involved in a fatal accident, everyone had died,
          the car could not be recognized what type of car it had been, but surprisingly, the trunk was intact.
          The police said there was no way the trunk could have remained intact. To their surprise, inside the
          trunk was a crate of eggs, none was broken.

          Christine Hewitt (Jamaican Journalist and entertainer)
          said the Bible (Word of God) was the worst book
          ever written. In June 2006 she was found burnt beyond
          recognition in her motor vehicle.

          Many more important people have forgotten that there is no
          other name that was given so much authority as the name of Jesus.
          Many have died, but only Jesus died and rose again, and he is still alive.

        21. I’m not sure what relevance that has to my reply to you Ramond? Are you trying to state in these half true, half fabricated and exaggerated stories that God caused it? Great.

          I can already seek that wise nature from the Westboro Baptist church if I need my daily insanity, thanks though.

        22. I’m too stupid? This coming from a brainwashed fool who thinks people deserved to die?


          So, instead of ‘God’ punishing say, the insane mass killers out there, the insane rapist and child molesters, especially in areas of say, Somalia or Eastern Europe…GOD wants to punish Marilyn Monroe. And I’m stupid?

          Why don’t you hate mongering Christians who couldn’t be any further than what Christ actually taught ( do you even know who Jesus Christ was? ) stick a sock in it. Let GOD be the final judge, NOT YOU. You hold no moral, spiritual or constitutional authority over anyone in this realm of living. The fact you act AS god with your statement further shows your sheer ignorance and stupidity.

          Please, never come back on here again. It’s extremist like you that gave Obama a free ticket to the white house again.

        23. you are some sort of DaVinci code assassin wannabee …. you are a sick defender of pedophile rapist priests, Billy Graham is one of the nations worst war-mongers …. read Cecil Bothwell’s TRUE BIOGRAPHY PRINCE OF WAR …. just the facts from the White House Press releases, AP & public record of stock sales by the evil gangster Billy Graham who wanted war with Korea in 1948 and only was expelled from the honest JFK White House

        24. mao nayise was the leading cause of Korea, he was chomping at the bit to impress stalin and have the rooshan $lut build arms plants in chinkeeville. That and Marshall listening to the communists moles in the state department……..Oh sorry I forgot it was George Bush that was responsible for all that, he was not happy with how his efforts went in WWII so he and Dick got together with Syngman Rhee and attacked the peace loving communists in north korea

        25. Wow horeradish, such an enlightened and christian like approach to this discussion. Can you two faces be any less discrete when you have nothing to offer as a rebuttal?

          Please point out what you disagree with so I can school you with facts. If you think the two party system isn’t the same, you’re a lost cause.

        26. your are full of it, like a stopped up sewer. another load of manure with idiots spewing $hit numbers, kinda of like teddy”the killer” kennedy when he said that 30 million children go to bed at night starving, not in this country. I prefer not to follow the communist inspired democrat party’s line of $hit or the bigger than life clowns that are trying to wreck this country with their communist plans

        27. Beautiful language to counter me. Bravo! Almost as hilarious as the supposed “christian” horeseradish posting here stating certain people, even posters here, deserve to die. Round of applause to you good sir!

          So which point are you actually refuting in my post? You seem like an angry teenager when it comes to democrats, yet attack me for attacking an idiot under Clinton who had the audacity of stating half a million dead Iraqi children as a result of our sanctions was worth it. Are you actually trying to tell me she didn’t say that, like an ignorant man that you are? Wouldn’t that be defending these “commies” in which you hate?

          Or were you refuting the number of dead children. If so, not only are you stupid, but that was me quoting the estimate that the interviewee on 60 seconds asked Madeleine Albright.

          Better yet, maybe you’re not aware any children died. Try looking it up, it’s public information. Unicef, U.N. Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq Denis Halliday report and the list goes on. Do your own research.

          Unlike you, I don’t bow down to Democrats or Republicans. Nor do I post retarded rebuttals that contradict myself, like yours.

          Enjoy being informed.

        28. Beautiful language to counter me. Bravo! Almost as hilarious as the supposed “christian” horeseradish posting here stating certain people, even posters here, deserve to die. Round of applause to you good sir!

          So which point are you actually refuting in my post? You seem like an angry teenager when it comes to democrats, yet attack me for attacking an idiot under Clinton who had the audacity of stating half a million dead Iraqi children as a result of our sanctions was worth it. Are you actually trying to tell me she didn’t say that, like an ignorant man that you are? Wouldn’t that be defending these “commies” in which you hate?

          Or were you refuting the number of dead children. If so, not only are you stupid, but that was me quoting the estimate that the interviewee on 60 seconds asked Madeleine Albright.

          Better yet, maybe you’re not aware any children died. Try looking it up, it’s public information. Unicef, U.N. Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq Denis Halliday report and the list goes on. Do your own research.

          Unlike you, I don’t bow down to Democrats or Republicans. Nor do I post retarded rebuttals that contradict myself, like yours.

          Enjoy being informed.

        29. the same idiotic drivel was written by the likes of Dewey lovers against Truman…. don’t blame me, I voted for DR Jill Stein, Ralph Nader & Professor Barry Commoner….. I vote for honesty and democracy, Rethuglicans & Republocrats here are just plain ignorant and dishonest

        30. Humanists, Atheists Demanding More Privileges

          Today’s drive for “tolerance” and multiculturalism has created some strange scenarios. Major Ray Bradley has applied to be recognized as the first humanist “distinctive faith group leader” in the U.S. Army. Currently, the service only recognizes “atheist” as a category that Bradley can have inscribed on his dog tags.

          He objects to this designation as too negative: “Humanism is a philosophy that guides a person. It’s more than just a stamp of what you’re not.” When Bradley enlisted in 1986, the only designation available was: “No Religious preference.” His present effort is supported by the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers (MAAF). Besides “humanist,” they want to see “spiritual but not religious” added to the official designations available in the Army’s official records.

          The MAAF is also responsible for getting Bibles removed from the Air Force list of items provided in approved lodging facilities, and the word, “God” from the logo of its Rapid Capabilities office. One threatening letter from the MAAF was all it took.

          In Dallas, The American Humanist Association (AHA) took a page out of the homosexual playbook and accused a theater of violating the federal Civil Rights Act by refusing to show an advertisement from a local atheist group.

          These efforts are just part of a growing trend by militant anti-religion activists to speak up for more recognition. Over the last few years, billboards, bus placards and even public demonstrations promoting “disbelief” have made news.

          According to the most recent American Religious Identification Survey, approximately 30 million people in the United States identify themselves as atheist, humanist, freethinker or agnostic.

          But humanism is more central to mankind’s basic rebellion against his Creator. As Bradley points out, humanism is a philosophy that guides people, not just a declaration of no confidence in the existence of a Creator.

          In fact, Satan’s lie to Eve that she could “be as gods,” was the start of Bradley’s philosophy of humanism which elevates mankind to the supreme position in the universe.

          The full blossoming of humanism began about the same time as the Reformation. Under the thumb of the popes during the dark ages, ignorance and superstition reigned in the culture. Without available books, few could read.

          Gutenberg’s printing press (and the wonderful chemists who invented cheap paper) broke that barrier. Within 50 years, 10 million books were available; especially the Bible.

          But when you read the Bible, you have to make a choice: submit to your Creator —or reject Him. Two streams of modern history were born at that point: the Reformation and the Secular streams.

          Biblical doctrine guided the Reformation, which transformed western culture into the most prosperous, free society yet. Birth pangs in Northern Europe and Great Britain birthed the United States of America, dedicated to living in accord with a biblical path.

          But the humanists in Europe, who fostered the bloody French Revolution, were busy planting seeds of their “philosophy” in America. Harvard, Yale, and Columbia were founded as pastor training schools. Now they are fountainheads of godlessness which flows all the way down to our kindergartens.

          Humanism seeks to establish heaven on earth by evolution’s natural selection, technology’s grand discoveries, psychology’s personality enhancements, and search for cosmic enlightenment. Biblical prophecy shows that their dream will never happen; that only Jesus’ return can redeem the creation from the pollution of human arrogance.

        31. The GOP is DEAD.

          WE are moving to the Strong Independent Party, and let the GOP die the long, slow death that has been killing itself, for flipping DECADES. Moderates.

        32. Mike.

          What Clinton did was disrespectful to women, and most obviously, the Oval Office, the Country.

          And our country didn’t care.

        33. In 1999, the New York Chapter of Women Journalists after the Monica Affair gave a dinner in Bill Clinton’s honor and gave him their highest award of “staying active below the waist”. Can you imagine the morals of these bitches.
          I would have tarred, feathered him, and run him out of town.

        34. In 1999? Gee, in 2013, our MSM (which includes the NY Chapter of Women Journalists), really don’t give a damn about investigative reporting, now do they?

          Clinton is a Skank, and Monica is scarred for life, because she apparently thought that sucking the pres off, emotionally engaged her in “Love”.


        36. gifted? billy boy is a traitor. the folks that like him have a mental grasp of reality much that same as women who want to marry death row prisoners that were convicted of murdering their wife or girl friend….

        37. I agree that Billy Boy is a traitor. I have no Idea why women like Clinton or why so many single women voted for Obama because he is “cute”. Someone told me once, that women are so tied up in their looks, clothes, and sex organs that they have no time for anything else. Do you agree?

        38. Jerry Marl look in the mirror, you will see a fool who will be a slave to
          a socialsit. Only thing is Biden hasn’t brought those nice new shiney
          chains to you yet.

        39. Oh, and You’re pure as the driven snow! PO wittle atheist, take your ball and go home. Nobody wants to play by YOUR “rules” especially if you keepchanging them so YOU won’t be bound by them but everybodt else will.

        40. Teddy Kennedy drove Mary Jo off that bridge and Senator Robert Byrd wept at Teddy’s funeral we know all about Senator Byrd, don’t we? Divers later testified that poor Mary Jo may have suffocated before she drowned. I would have not let Teddy Kennedy drive my daughter anywhere.
          Teddy, Obama and Bill Clinton are modern Democrats with no decency, honesty, ethics, kindness or mercy.

        41. I can list just as many rotten things “conservative” republicans have done. I know you don’t think this, but your SHlT really DOES stink too!

        42. Jerry . . . that’s a great comeback ! ! ! . . . if Krazy Teddy had drivven a Volkswagen . . . he could have become president.
          Lets see . . . I give you the Kennedies, raise you the Klintons and throw in Krazy Harry and Senator Byrd . . . in the time since Lincoln . . . you could not find a group of Republicans to equal this gang of lyin theives ! ! ! And we haven’t even mentioned O’bammy, Holder and Nutty Biden yet . . . lol
          I have always said “Athiesm” is a Religion . . . I am proven correct again.

        43. You are correct that Obama, Hillary and Bill are a bunch of thieves. I think they are all athiests, although Obama may be a muslim from Indonesia. He is still angry that Churchill suppressed the Mau Mau rebellion in Kenya and that is why he insulted the Queen.
          Last September, Obama gave a speech at the UN where he was sympathetic to Islam and NO American President has ever capitulated to muslims like that. Thomas Jeffferson sent Marines to Tripoly for much less.

        44. Father – Daughter Talk
          A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so
          many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal
          Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of
          higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words,
          redistribution of wealth.

          She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican,
          a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had
          participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that
          her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what
          he thought should be his.

          One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes
          on the rich and the need for more government programs. The
          self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the
          truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she
          was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she
          had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that
          she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying,
          which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew.
          She didn’t even have time for a boyfriend, and didn’t really have many
          college friends because she spent all her time studying.

          Her father listened then asked, ‘How is your friend Audrey doing?’
          She replied, ‘Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy
          classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. But she is so
          very popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She’s always invited
          to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn’t even show up for
          classes because she’s too hung over.’
          Her father asked her, ‘Why don’t you go to the Dean’s office and ask him
          to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend Audrey, who only
          has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that
          would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.

          The daughter, visibly shocked by her father’s suggestion, angrily fired
          back, ‘That’s a crazy idea. How would that be fair? I’ve worked really
          hard for my grades! I’ve invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work.
          Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I
          worked my tail off!’

          The father slowly smiled, winked, and said gently, ‘Welcome to the
          Republican Party.’

        45. Congratulation Ray you just brithtened my day considerabley. Time for
          us vet to gather up and restore our nations honor.

        46. Welcome to the democrat party. Creators of the KKK, Jim Crow laws, we filibustered against the 19th amendment (women’s vote) and civil rights Wow, talk about a war on women and people of color! A couple of the more famous senators that were against civil rights was Al Gore Sr, and LBJ. Senator Byrd was a prominent person in the KKK and a recruiter. Ted Kennedy got away with murder and hid his millions in the Caymen Islands while saying rich people have to pay their fair share. Yes, welcome to the democrat party and the plantation…we’re working harder to make sure the middle class slides into the quagmire of poverty….and with all of the low information voters such as yourself, we’re achieving our goal faster than anticipated.

        47. the daughter is honest while the bio-dad is a vicious manipulative liar, Audrey is boy Bush in drag…. and the bio-dad is a typical Senator Ensign sort of hypocritical dog ….. to ensure people have food stamps, housing, medical care and education is not “wealth re-distribution” but a reform of predatory exploitative rampant capitalism that cheats workers out of living wages, clean air, clean water and safe workplaces…. the daughter may become a great Green Party candidate like DR Jill Stein, top Harvard Doctor and Author…. @JillStein2012 GREEN NEW DEAL 25 million green union living wage jobs out of war money ….CLOSE all bases overseas & sell them to the rich countries that pay us zero to be there 843-926-1750 @LarryAccomplish

        48. 2 Timothy 3:

          This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their ownselves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

        49. Put lipstick on a pig and you still have a sow. Dr. Stein didn’t do too well in her debate with Gov. Gary Johnson, did she?

        50. THAT is SO OLD and so reworked…Years ago it started out with a little girl with democrat parents visiting a republican friend…………….SHEESH, why don’t you people come up with something original for a change instead of rehashing/rewriting the same old same old.

        51. Go ahead… List a Teddy Kennedy like scenario where they weren’t drummed out… I am waiting.

        52. I can too. But the difference is that republicans resign. Democrats get reelected over and over to continue their criminal ways.

          LOL and you’re acting like a typical liberal, angry, angry…angry. It’s a mental disorder. Either get help, or have another glass of kool aid. The democrats have been selling you a lie and you’re paying full price for it.
          Enjoy the plantation, you voted for it…you earned it.

        53. I think Teddy Kennedy was so drunk that even a VW would have not saved Mary Jo. Teddy was also a coward who did not report the accident for 16 hours until he had breakfast at his hotel and talked to his lawyer.

        54. Yes, Teddy was so drunk that he managed to cover his tracks immediately after the accident and then get showered and dressed and went to a morning function. Ted Kennedy was a functioning alcoholic and he was afraid that his political career would go down the toilet.

        55. There is an FBI report that stated that Teddy Kennedy rented an entire brothel in Chile for himself, his driver and his commie union pals. Perhaps Teddy was drunk. Teddy drove poor Mary Jo off the bridge, and the Democrats re-elected Teddy to the Senate eight times and that is an outrage.

        56. For some reason, the media just loves the Kennedys. Joe’s father was a saloon owner and Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger and mafia member. He was selected to sell of his stock which people say was the catalyst in the 1929 crash, which was planned. Joe was booted out of his job as ambassador of England because of his pro Nazi/Hitler views, paid a ghostwriter to write the JFK book “Profiles in Courage”, bought JFK election in 1960. This family has more blood on its hands, but people keep electing these creeps to office so they can continue to line their pockets and rule over us. They used to say that the Kennedy curse would end with the death of Joe Kennedy, then it was Rose. I think the whole family needs to just pack it in, and stay out of public office.

        57. half truths and presumed “capitalism” just will not fly …. the Kennedy Klan is no different than the Bush Crime Family …. mass murderers pretending to be patriots … Prescott Walker & Honey Fitz pocketed billions over the bodies of people lied to by pedophile priests & Presbyterian gangster theocrats who gave us red baiting, McCarthyism & now NDAA…. BOTH RETHUGLICANS AND REPUBLOCRATS are allowed to roam free when such need to be jailed for mega theft, war crimes, polluter profiteering, theocracy & banksterism.

        58. Unfortunately, a lot of progressive/socialist/communists have infiltrated the military. It seems that the Air Force and Navy are the top two…some day, this so-called Navy vet will wake up and realize that he’s being played. Or maybe he’s aware of the communist agenda and he’s all for the overthrow if the US government…

        59. Liberals in Mass just want more free stuff/welfare/food stamps and they don’t care what happens to America. They are so dumb that i feel sorry for them.

        60. Yes, the the kicker is that it DIDN’T. Today I was watching a local Fox journalist interview newly elected Elizabeth Warren (aka Pocahontas) about what she considers middle class. After much prodding, she really couldn’t answer the question, but based on how she explained it, I think she believes being middle class is a frame of mind because she said that a teacher taking a year off to continue her studies and earn only 4,000.00 per year as middle class. I would consider it poverty.

          The point of this was to show how STUPID the people of MA must be. If they could dig up Ted Kennedy and reelect him, they would. Even though Brown wasn’t the greatest of senators, he is still far superior to that idiot Warren. She might give McCaskill a run for her money as being the dumbest senator.

        61. Is this something about Toyota rental car size ? Implying 1st degree murder of a pregnant mistress instead of a drunken driving Senator ?

        62. I love Christmas lights! They remind me of…..
          “the people who voted for Obama…….”

          They all hang together; half of them don’t work,
          and the ones that do, aren’t all that bright!

        63. JM, Don’t be ashamed to be an atheist. Embrace it.

          But. As a Conservative, I dispute your argument, that we “have no decency, honesty, ethics, kindness, or mercy”…

          You don’t know enough of us to generalize like this.

        64. Liberal atheists are the dirtbags of humanity, the cause of most of the world’s troubles (Yes, that’s right. MOST of them). Secular humanists are constantly saying all they care about is “people”, but some of the nastiest people hating fcuks I’ve ever known are those who call themselves “humanists”.

        65. Decency,honesty,ethics,kindness,and mercy according to WHOSE ethics? WHAT makes the valid to WHOM?

        66. most do, unlike liars and hypocrites of the likes of billy clinton and johnny traitor kerry, oh and blarney frankie

      2. RELIGION, not lack of religion, has been the biggest killer. Especially Islam. But millions have been killed in the name of Jesus as well.

        The world would be a much better place with absolutely NO religion whatsoever.

        1. most of those killed in the name of Jesus were the a$$wipe islamy towel heads…..It is time once again for a Crusade, the final extermination

      3. Damm sounds like a left wing liberal socialist miscreant who resides in the White
        House or a Cali abortion clinic operator who kill the unborn or partial born for
        profit or I should say sacrifices on thier alter of perversion.

      4. And they call themselves a “church”. See definition of church as a building used for public “Christian” worship. Maybe they should rename themselves as an atheistic meeting place instead.

      5. Try and tell a theist that religion is the biggest mass murderer of all time and they will try to place the blame on an atheist… I silently said three words as I watched the Twin Towers collapse: Religion strikes again.

        1. By his lifestyle and language he seems to think he is never wrong, according to what I see. Has he ever takrn responsibility for anything that was or went wrong? When he speaks, see how many times he says “me, mine, my, I, ” in taking credit for something. Then count the times he says “you, they, them,etc “when something goes wrong. He thinks he does no wrong.

        2. Obozo thinks he’s ABOVE God. He’s sorta like Lucifer, the first to try to claim he IS God. It didn’t work, because St. Michael, by the power of God, threw him out of heaven. Now, we need someone like St. Michael, by the power of God, to throw Obozo out of our White House.

        1. is that so? Why have any? Do animals in nature care about bigotry ? No? Why should atheists? how many values do atheists have since you seem to be speaking for all of them and since the claim they are not a belief system, then how do you know what other atheists value if not a coherent and cohesive belief system?

        2. Well, Mr. KentPerry,
          You’ve asked many questions. I started my comment, with “Atheists have more values”. This means, to me, they value all life more than Muslims. All life.

          And, I don’t generalize. Didn’t actually mean to, if that (and of course that’s what you are doing) is what you are implying. I only speak for myself.

          So. While I’m not an atheist, technically I’m not a Christian either. Not bothered by titles. Obviously. I know of people that do not believe in God, or a higher being, and they are very much, humanitarian. They care.About people, nature, stuff that they can and cannot control. Its just a little something I’ve discovered, recently.

          You, are a Muslim?

        3. I figured I offended you.

          I know lots of people that are Christian, or consider themselves so (including me, just a believer) that exhibit not the least iota of humanity.

        4. Hi there, Kent. Could you tell us one of your morals or values that we atheists couldn’t have also come up with without a religion to rely on?

        5. I think we’d both agree that morals and values should have some sort of positive consequence. So who benefits from that, and how?

    1. The great Dostoyevsky was a prophet and he wrote, “where there is no God everything/anything is possible”. He was correct and the horrible Bolshevik Revolution proved his point. Imperial Russia did not practice capital punishment except for an attempt on the Royal family. Russians had the finest art, literature and ballet in the world, which Lenin replaced with socialist realism and his Bolshevik hacks.
      However in 1920, Pravda Bolshevik Newspaper braged that the CHEKA was shooting 5000 counterrevolutionaries per month. These included Officers of the Imperial Horse Life Guards, Saint George Battalion, heroic Women’s Regiment, priest, policemen, merchants, bankers, shopkeepers and anyone who employed four or more workers. All were considered enemies of the working class and were shot or sent to Siberian Gulags.

    2. Don’t worry, no body cares what you believe in, as long as your not harming others, its in the Contstituton. What you want is a religious police state, its not going to happen. Why are you so insecure, you must not trust your believes.

    3. It depends what era you’re talking about. There have been too many, too terrible religious wars to ignore.

      Where religion is popular, fiends clothe their intentions in religion. When it’s not, they clothe them in talk of the Volk or the Proletariat. Their aim is the same, though: power for themselves and their team, no matter the cost to others.

    4. Can you point to any cases where atheists have “mass-murdered” people? I know that the Christian Crusades happened, but I’m unaware of any “Atheist Crusade”. I’m just curious if you have any facts to back up your opinion.

      1. the atheist are not great in number nor are they well organized. It is a shame that the Crusades were not more successful, that way the towel head terrorist islamy $luts would be a mere footnote in history…….

        1. I am absolutely serious. If you’re going to accuse atheists of being mass murderers, show me the evidence where they have done this. What organized atheist organization has ever committed mass murders? Historically, where is the evidence that anything on the scale of the Christian Crusades has ever occurred? You can point to dictators, or governments, but that is not a specific atheist organization! There were no “Atheism Crusades” ! Governments are not explicitly formed to oppose religion, they only use it as a tool! Atheists don’t form groups to murder people so they can rule them! They just want people to respect their viewpoint, and admit that there is great possibility that religion is wrong, and science is right! Religion has absolutely no basis in scientific fact, it is all “faith” based–you either believe in it or you don’t. While there a few bogus “sciences”, global warming for example, most sciences are based on logic and facts gained by carefully controlled tests and experiments. Can you show me any RECENT history of atheists “mass-murdering” christians, or any other religious group? You can’t, it doesn’t exist!

        2. You are so full of crap you make a fools argument. When Stalin was killing MILLIONS of Christians, pastors and ministers OUTLAWING religion, you toss out this asinine and arbitrary rule, indemnifying the atheist and the fact that these Governments were strictly atheist regimes that certainly did kill in the name of God, OUR God. They killed in the name of removing any sign of him and his followers.

          Now after they had been successful at eliminating all religion. OF course you don’t have to accept responsibility of these horrible crimes under the banner of atheism any more. Not when religion has been eliminated rather bloodily. How convenient to say atheists didn’t do this. Of course not, because there are no atheists where there is no religion or religious people. Not after they were all MURDERED

        3. Did Stalin and Hitler et. al. get together and say “hey, let’s kill some Christians”? Were they an organized group acting together or two separate governments acting independently who both just so happened to want to eliminate Christians? These leaders weren’t killing Christian’ to eliminate religion, they were killing Christian’s because they wanted to install their totalitarian government, and saw religion as an obstacle. It was more the organized power of those people, rather than their beliefs.

          Atheism doesn’t require religion to exist, it is a non-belief in “god” , the non-belief is still there regardless if religion exists.

          I ask that you please be a bit more respectful in your replies, your argument does not become any stronger when you insult me, or anyone else, by saying they are “full of crap”. I haven’t insulted you personally, I’d appreciate your restraint as well.

          And you never did respond to my question of any RECENT history of atheists “mass-murdering” Christians, or any religious group? I see this all the time, when people have a strong emotional opinion that they can’t back up with facts they resort to attacking and insulting those who disagree with them.


          HELL NO!

          I am not going to respond to the other question about “recent” history again, you use as an arbitrary rules to disqualify atheists indemnifying them as a group that have killed more people than all the religious wars combined. By the way IDIOT! My ad-hom portrayal of you does in no way prove I have no facts and in fact is used to insult you because frankly YOU DESERVE IT! I don’t give a rats ass whether you believe it or not, that doesn’t change the facts History is rife with that atheistic regimes with a anti religion hatred tends to get bloody.

          I see the same thing happening today by the atheists. You don’t like religion, I get that. TOO DAMNED BAD. HOSS! I would have thought since you were using the crusades which historically was long before the more recent Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin regimes, might eliminate the use of such double standards to qualify atheists as murderous and petty blood thirsty killers when ever we have the misfortune of allowing them to get into positions of political power but I was wrong. Thankfully that doesn’t happen that often and for good reason. They have a lobby with one clear and concise mission pal.

          Atheists DO in fact REQUIRE theism to exist you silly moron because where there is no theists there is no atheists. That is what atheists mean, NOT THEIST. They are not theists so how can they be theists especially when they outlawed the practice and belief in any religion. Without religion, they would have nothing to be against. Being against religion is all atheism is about.

          Without it THEY ARE NOTHING.

          But, as we have seen time and time again, atheists are about one thing in this country. They are NOT about being easy going live and lets live but LIVE MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY and are no less a control freak as any southern hell fire and brimstone, born again baptist preacher I have ever seen and TWICE as dogmatic in the use and preparation of all their anti Christian Cookie Cutter Copy Pasted come backs and quotes. To think they call themselves “Free Thinkers, when you think about it is a JOKE! They are about ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY because they make it known to us at every opportunity

          TO KILL CHRISTIANITY by any means necessary if need be.

          The rest will come afterward but make no mistake,

          atheists are an organized machine and just

          as guilty of committing genocides

          as any religion can be.

        5. You really need to improve your reading comprehension
          skills. You are missing my point completely. My point is this: unlike the
          Christian Crusades, the “mass murders” of Christians weren’t organized by anyone. They weren’t members of any national, or international group against Christian’s—it was them personally, and their government, not atheists in general. I didn’t say it absolves from any blame, you did. Atheists, as a group, did not mass-murder Christians, Hitler, Stalin and their government minions did. You can say that’s a silly semantic argument if you want, but those are the facts.

          “I am not going to respond to the other question about “recent” history
          again, you use as an arbitrary rules to disqualify atheists indemnifying them as a group that have killed more people than all the religious wars combined. By the way IDIOT! My ad-hom portrayal of you does in no way prove I have no facts and in fact is used to insult you because frankly YOU DESERVE IT! I don’t give a rats ass whether you believe it or not, that doesn’t change the facts History is rife with that atheistic regimes with a anti religion hatred tends to get bloody”

          What do you mean “again”? You never responded the first time! History is also “rife” with religious wars—Christians Crusades, Irish Protestants vs Irish Catholics, Muslim Holy War, or Jihad, Palestinians versus Israelis—to name a few. Some of these are still going on=so the total
          death toll is as yet unknown! All wars caused by religious factions fighting each other, none of them involve atheists.

          Most intelligent people can engage in a discussion without resorting to insults and personal attacks. I see that your social skills have not yet evolved to this point. Well, maybe you’ll grow up some day, but I doubt it.

          “I see the same thing happening today by the atheists”

          I’ll ask you one more time—WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE THAT
          IT IS HAPPENING TODAY! See, I know how to use CAPS LOCK too! What do you think, makes my point MUCH STRONGER doesn’t it?

          “Atheists DO in fact REQUIRE theism to exist you silly moron because where there is no theists there is no atheists. That is what atheists mean, NOT THEIST. They are not theists so how can they be theists especially when they outlawed the practice and belief in any religion. Without religion, they would have nothing to be against. Being against religion is all atheism is about. “

          This is sad really, it shows that you are incapable of looking up a word in a dictionary, and are also incapable of understanding the full meaning of a word. I guess it’s that reading comprehension problem of
          yours. You really should take a few classes, it might help you out. Here’s how Merriam-Webster, a dictionary, defines
          the word, atheist:


          archaic : ungodliness, wickedness


          : a disbelief in the existence of deity

          : the doctrine that there is no deity

          Religion isn’t mentioned here. Atheism is a belief system that embraces the sciences, versus invisible men in the sky, as the explanation for the wonders of our universe. As such, it does not require religion to
          exist—it is a disbelief in the existence of a deity, and the belief that
          science can explain all the mysteries of our universe. You can form an independent thought without the existence of the opposite of that thought, can’t you? Well, maybe you can’t, but I think most intelligent , rational, human beings can.

          “But, as we have seen time and time again, atheists are about one thing in this country. They are NOT about being easy going live and lets live but LIVE MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY…”

          And I could say the same thing about religious groups—particularly
          when it comes to the issues of abortion and contraceptives. Or, how about the inclusion of “god” in our pledge—not the way it was originally written, it was included in 1956. Or on all of our money. Or the holiday displays—predominantly Christian, not too many other religions represented there—and if atheists try to put up a display, they just ban all displays to avoid the opposing viewpoint. Did you know that in some states today, in the US, you cannot hold public office if you are an atheist? So who’s oppressing who here?

    5. I say keep the guns get rid of the Government sponcered religon called Athiesum.
      Guns are not the problem, we will not out law cars trucks air planes or boats..
      The gun is not the problem its the person holding it. If a nut wanted to kill.. in prisons they will sharpen a tooth brush handle, or they can use a bow and arrow, or a cross bow, or a knife or sword, … you can not ban everything ban the teachers and professor who teach Darwinisum! Its uncontutitional any way!

      1. it is insanity like John Munro that will result in dis-arming America …. we need Atheist patriots to defend the godless US Constitution or NDAA will be locking up thousands of us soon… we need sane people behind the trigger, not theocrats and tampon terrorists …. science & Darwin have advanced society faster than the xian KKK & zionist conquistadors over Palestine, the IDF has become brown shirt Nazi’s…. we need a return to 1967 borders & disarm all sides so they will stop killing one another

    6. The number one killer throughout history is split between religious fanatics (e.g., the Inquisition, the Crusades, Islamofascists) and governments killing THEIR OWN people, e.g., Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China—of those three, ALL were socialist governments.

  5. Same church as the Shriners, Manson Family, Peoples Temple, Jim Jones, and other such cults that are anti Christian. Atheist Church is just another dangerous cult that gets more notoriety then most, and it’s members are anti-Christ and anti-Christian…so the Atheist would worship who???? Think about it.

      1. Thanks Greg. My thoughts exactly. Not exactly Manson Family material, considering the good they do for children, of all backgrounds.

      2. Uh… Shriners have to be a 32 degree mason. They take their oath on a Koran. I guess you never noticed the curved Arabic sword known as the Scimitar, and the crescent moon, another sysbol of Islam. In case you are unaware, the only requirement to become a mason, is the belief in a “deity. This can be found at a site As to which deity, they do not care. So if you thought they were a Christian organization, you were wrong. Most people do not understand that the masonic belief is not Christian. I’ve been told so many times by those ignorant of the masons, that they had an uncle who belonged , or their daddy did, and they were deacons. The sad fact is, too many Christians who joined the masons, never even took the time to read their books. The book of books to a freemason, is called Morals and Dogma, by Albert Pike, who was a 33rd degree mason, On page 525 it reads, “It reverences all the great reformers. It sees in Moses, the Lawgiver of the Jews, in Confucius and Zoroaster, in Jesus of Nazareth, and in the Arabian Iconoclast, Great Teachers of Morality, and Eminent Reformers, if no more: and allows every brother of the Order to assign to each such higher and even Divine Characteristics as his Creed and Truth require.”
        In the book, Clausen’s Commerntaries on Morals and Dogma, by another 33rd degree mason, Henry C. Clausen, wrote on page 162, “Masonry disbelieves no truth and instead reverences all the great teachers of morality. It is beyond our purpose to decide among conflicting claims that beset the followers of Moses, Confucius, Zoroaster, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, and others.”
        So, those who hold a high rank in the masonic lodge understand that masonry is a religion of its own, and is not Christian. In Christian belief, Jesus is God in the flesh and is not on an equal playing field with any other want to be deities.

        1. Thank you for that information. Did they have something to do with starting the French and Russian Revolutions?

        2. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.Mr. Harrod (above) is just another fine example of the “uneducated” who believes that because an organization does good things, that makes them a Christian or good organization; the latter might be true, but the Freemasons are anything but a Christian organization….you ignorant wretch. Even if you stoop to name calling, that still will not change who and what they stand for.

    1. I suppose that an Atheist would have to worship that great Nothing, you know “is nothing Sacred”.
      Are we refering to the church of Nil or maybe Nul

      1. Nihilism? Some things are unknowable by definition and must be taken on faith. Atheism is simply a cult of reason. Remember since atheism is a religion atheists cannot be intelligent by their own doctrine.

        1. Atheism is an excuse to indulge in any sick twisted hedonistic debased and depraved, perversion they want and all under the guise of equal rights and freedom “FROM” religion, which, historically has been the only counter measure to stop them from getting the inevitable condition of barbarism and genocide it invariably, leads to.

        2. Hilarious and frightening that you can’t even think of not having some twisted father figure watching over everything you do.

        3. I never laugh at scary things and Neither do you I suspect. So you talk smack all you like Capt Courageous because that father figure you actively disbelieve 24/7 is looking over YOUR shoulder too

        4. Yes, I suppose that’s True. The connotation of the statement a cult of reason is negative. I would hate to denigrate reason itself.

      1. He just hates the fact that he can’t BE God himself. He KNOWS the WORD of God is absolutely REAL and he ALSO knows that he was totally DEFEATED when JESUS went to the cross and paid for ALL of our sins and rose from the dead……. Atheism, like satan, is just the DENIAL of God’s sovereignty and the fact that man really IS and will be accountable to God, regardless of how he tries to convince himself to the contrary…….

        1. First step toward accepting the “pure” thing when it’s brought out and instituted as the official religion of the world.

    1. By definition Atheism is a religion. Embrace it an call it what is it. A cult of reason. Non belief is also a belief. It becomes a political organization and a “Civil religion” ( A religion of state government Or tyranny Or collectivism ). Atheism is what jean jacques rousseau advocated for in his general will theory that lead to the jacobin massacres and the french revolution. Remove the tether to Judeo-Christain Individual salvation & individual morality and anything is possible and probable. But that’s just historical fact…….nothing to be learned here.

        1. So is Buddhism but you call that a religion. Scientology has extraterrestrials, they ain’t Gods. At least not as much as Darwin is to atheist’s besides that, if atheism isn’t a religion, don’t tell us about it jughead, it was an atheist that brought the law suit to make atheism a religion. So tell your atheists, we have always known it was

        2. “it was an atheist that brought the law suit to make atheism a religion.”

          Irrelevant. I could call myself a taxidermist tomorrow and then demand that that be respected as a religion. It wouldn’t magically change what it means to be a taxidermist.

        3. No what is irrelevant is that asinine straw man about taxidermist’s still being Taxidermists even though they want to be called Holy Taxidermists. You see, you weren’t talking about how they would change if at all, else your silly response would have made more sense and actually addressed something in context of what I said.

          This is what you said, Quote:”By definition atheism is a lack of belief in gods. That’s not a religion”

          According to the supreme court it does and if the taxidermist won the same type of law suit, they would be a religion too, regardless of what it means to be a taxidermist, you would have the same protected class distinction as any religious order or the Holy Order of Taxidermist’s.

          Legal definitions change. We have seen the legal Definition of Marriage change to mean, well,, I’m not sure what it will end up meaning after the queers get finished trying to make it mean them and that they are main stream. But Gay used to mean happy, then queers changed that to mean, them. So now it means lame.

          Atheists are working very hard to become everything they have always hated about religion.

  6. The British is ahead of us disobeying God word and I believe they will be the first to bite the dust. There is just so much God will stand for. I believe that is why Obama is here. The punishment for Sodum and Gomorrah was being destroyed.How far do you think he will let us go?

  7. aethism, marxism, communism, islam, mormonism, budhism. all snares of satan. all lead to denial of Jesus Christ. religion is anti God and anti Christ.

  8. It is “cute” how some people draw false distinctions between faiths, beliefs, religions, churchs, cults, philosophies, “isms”, and on and on. I think the whole notion that the one is somehow different from the other in basic character is absolutely ridiculous. It is obvious, completely, totally and in the extreme that this aspect of human nature exists and exists in the VAST majority of humanity. The bigots of all stripes need to get over it and deal with the realities of existence as sentient creatures. The public dialog on these topics is at such a low level as to be nearly idiotic. When will we, as a human race, rise up and THINK? My opinion is if you don’t think you have to suffer the negative consequences of your thoughtless behavior. What is the consequence of THAT? Think about it.

  9. So while they argue there is no god it’s finally established THEY ARE A RELIGION and as such HAVE NO RIGHT TO IMPEDE THE WORSHIP OF ANYONE ELSE WHEN IT OPPOSES THEIR BELIEVES. Why are they allowed to have religious icons removed when they are a religion unto themselves as well. This needs to be addressed and the atheists bullying stopped.

    1. See my post above. Its needs to be exposed and it will fail on its own. Alinsky tactics of ridicule need to be applied to all atheists who claim not to be religious. Particularly when you hear an atheist say that belief makes you unintelligent. Atheism claims to be rooted in science and that is why they are searching in vain for the GOD particle so they can prove to themselves they were right all along. Those with the hubris to claim to be the most intelligent are usually atheists. In revelations this behavior is described as nicolaity. If possible bring them back to the fold we must be fishers of men.

  10. Did people read the article before commenting? Atheism is a religion. Notice how they say thought is just the result of natural processes. What that means is they believe thought is meaningless. Atheism is a bankrupt world view.

        1. Give it a break moron, the atheist worldview is NOTHING without the Christian. Without OUR worldview and your preoccupation with us, the atheist is nothing. Your worldview is to oppose ours

  11. Oh you poor suffering Christians. You don’t get it. The whole thing is a joke on you lot. There are clearly no gods and you cannot have “beliefs” and faiths. All goes to show how gullible you are.

  12. They say they don’t believe in GOD – that there is no GOD yet they fight against HIM – Just doesn’t make since to me —

        1. I don’t truly believe “he” doesn’t exist. I don’t truly believe “he” exists.

          And I care because people’s beliefs influence their actions. Like ignoramuses who think faith-healing actually works and watch their children die of treatable illnesses.

  13. Don’t degrade Christian or other religions by declaring atheism a religion. It isn’t, despite your definition of religion! It is, simply, a group of deniers.

  14. As far as I am concerned, if a professing atheist has strong hatred for a believe in God, that person is not really an atheist, in actuality the person deep down believes God is real and that person wants to erase his name from memory so that God will just ignore us like that.

    Whereas a professed atheist who does not care what we believe is a true atheist cause let me put it this way, if one honestly thinks there is no God, then what harm is there in a person believing in God.

    Also if one honestly thinks I am wasting time believing in God, well let me say this, if I die tomorrow and find out there never was a God to begin with, I did not waste any time believe in God, rather I can say well ok so there is no God after all.

    However let me ask you this, what do you think will happen if you deny the existence of God and then die tomorrow and find out he’s real after all? what do you think would happen then?

    I say i’d rather die believing in God and finding out he never existed than not die not believing in God and finding out he existed after all.

    Also how does one explain how our organs in our bodies are positioned the way they are? it could not possibly be by random chance, a car cannot build itself, neither can a computer, they need intelligent designers and likewise we could not be here without an intelligent designer, and I believe that intelligent designer is God.

    1. Exactly ! While I’ve never found the Judeo Christian God, my life experiences will not allow me to deny the possibility of Intelligent Design! In my serarch for God I’ve read the bible several times in several different interpretations and believe it to be the best self-help book ever written!

    2. Amen, we did not come from some mud slime mixture to be as complex as we are now, without the power of God. Oh and for those that beleive we come from monkeys…If that were so, why is it still not happening…Answer : never did happen and Never will.

  15. Atheism does not believe in anything greater than the self, so how can they have a church? Atheist Church is an oxymoron!!!

  16. Atheism is the absence of religion. It operates as a religion to get the same tax advantages. I was a speaker at an atheist church promoting the idea that biblical stories are nothing more than cosmic myths. The Atlanta Freethought Society meets once a week in a former church. The church was the cheapest building they could find to house the membership. With atheism being the fastest growing (non) belief in this country, it looks like we will be occupying more churches. I personally have no desire to convert anyone. If people are happy with their mythological fancies of virgin births, young earth, and resurrecting gods, that’s fine. I am satisfied being a member of a small group of people who know the real truth.

      1. Perhaps I should say we operate as a non-profit organization. That way all the money I donate to the society is a tax write off, i.e. government subsidized as are churches and temple donations.

        1. you just made this claim

          ” It operates as a religion to get the same tax advantages”

          I asked you to prove what you’re saying. Where does atheism operate as a religion for tax advantages?

  17. In the world of the arrogant angry utopian socialist control freak cult…up is always down so this makes perfect sense…the great thing is the rest of us can go inside and protest like the homosexuals do…we can say we protest nothing”…” we demand equal time for God”…lol…since their isno god then their is no sin…so get in a few punches and curses while in the Infinite Void Church of the Borg…ha ha ha ha…

  18. Proof positive the Scotus is dead WRONG! They side with atheists when atheism is as much a belief system as any other religion. An atheist cannot prove the absence of God anymore than a Christian can prove the existence of God. It’s all a matter of Faith, which is a belief system. Scotus is supposed to administer blind justice. They have FAILED and failed rather miserably and this Church is proof ! The atheists belief system is as much an offense to me as mine is to them. So Scotus where is the justice?????????????????????

    1. Basic logic fail. No one needs to disprove god’s existence until someone has proven it.

      The default assumption is that he doesn’t exist, just like with any other random thing a person could imagine but has never actually verified exists.

        1. You got that right because you can’t even see the belief you got takes a lot more faith, than you got evidence to support it. ha ha ha This is getting nowhere. I know,, that too is some how an issue with my belief and not yours.. what ever dude

    2. Hilarious that you think all atheists represent each other. That’s like thinking everyone who doesn’t believe in unicorns represents everyone else who doesn’t believe in unicorns.

      1. Have you counted the atheists on this board that have done that very same thing? If not, I give you Jerry Marl, as one quick example

        1. One atheist has nothing to do with another, same as one Christian has nothing to do with another; I don’t see the relevance.

      1. Obama is not a Christian because he demanded that the Holy Cross be covered at the Georgtown University for his silly speech. Once a muslim always a muslim.

        1. Yeah Neither was Bush because he claimed The Muslim God Allah and the Christian God are the same God.

        2. I worked in an Islam country and what I saw was not pretty. Their God is the Moon God and he was worshipped by the tribes way before the Phophet.
          They also still have slavery

  19. No One Ever Said That Atheists are saying people . Atheists are a curious bunch, they profess to not believe in any God. If that’s the case what are they so afraid of and so quickly to ridicule people who do have faith? How can you be against something that you do not believe even exists it would seem to me a large waste of time, effort, and expense to protest something that your positive isn’t there. How many ways can you say Stupid!

      1. That makes little or no sense considering that most people at least on the Christian side of things are not people to be feared. What difference does it make to you if an individual makes a personal decision to believe in something. What harm does it do to an atheist for someone else to believe in something, I say something because everyone believes in something. That something can be a God, a demon, a political figure, when the most prominent in the world right now the almighty dollar. Can you say honestly that you believe in nothing? In fact good Christians would in reality go out of their way to help people understand that there just might be a God. Here’s the thing how much effort does it take to recognize that someone else might believe in something you don’t.
        Subject: [godfatherpolitics] Re: London Gets First Atheist Church

        1. What is the difference if they’re Christians, Buddhists, Hindu lists, or Christian scientists or for that matter Orthodox Jews we all have one thing in common they believe in a higher being or if you prefer a God. So it would seem that you deem anyone with any belief in a higher being is an idiot. Now the United States of America it stipulates that the government will not interfere with the practice of a person’s religion is that not true? If the government can’t do it what right do atheists have in trying to regulate religion?You can’t have it both ways either you believe in something we don’t and if you don’t why worry about it because it doesn’t exist it can’t hurt you. But just in case it might be advisable that before you drop dead you put on some asbestos underwear, you know just in case.
          Subject: [godfatherpolitics] Re: London Gets First Atheist Church

    1. Because you “people of faith” elect crazy incompetent presidents like “G.W.Bush”

      Because “you people of faith” left to your own devices, would absolutely destroy freedom for anyone who’s not a Christian in AMerica.

      because I DON’T TRUST you christians. You are only as good as your word and you are a bunch of dishonest people.

    1. If you Christians try to push your religion in our schools and on the public square, we will sue you into oblivion. People in America are tired of you trying to sneak your cult into our public schools. You DO NOT have a right to expose other peoples children to your cult.

      1. Do not be such an ignorant dunce. The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Constitutions of all 13 original states are all based on Judeo-Christian principles, values and morals. The 1962 SCOTUS decision was only one of a number of bad SCOTUS decisions, like Dred Scot, Roe/Wade and Obamacare.

      2. Ill say it again,. atheists = just a punch in the face, waiting to happen.

        Oh and just to add insult to their injury,, lets execute that Right Hook knocking the stupid out of their thick skulls, by doing it in the name of God.

      3. Well, it’s already been pushed into the public square. Congress opens with a prayer. Do me a favor and try to sue Congress, you ignoramus. And hasn’t atheism been described as a cult on THIS BOARD? Why yes, yes it has. You’re 0-2.

  20. OFF the rails COMPLETELY! Why do they need a “church” when they HAVE JP’s courts, city halls, etc for their “unbelief” already? Why do they need to EMULATE religions? Couldn’t possibly be that they secretly RECOGNIZE they NEED that structure of religion in their lives and refuse to ADMIT it even to themselves??

    1. Why do you care what they have or what they do?
      Why not mind your own business and let other people of different beliefs than yours DO WHATEVER they please. Are you upset that some law doesn’t stop these atheists?

      1. Obviously you’re “one of them” or my questions wouldn’t bother YOU in the least! Where did I say they can’t or that there should be a law? I simply posed some questions about their OWN inconsistency!

      2. @jerry Marl: it’s because some of the vile atheists are always running their mouths off on this site. If the atheist would practice what they ‘preach’ they would simply avoid the conversation. AS it is, they inflict their belief on others by getting ‘in the face of’ those who don’t believe as they do. It’s a little hypocritical don’t you think?

        1. Wow that makes a very interesting point dntmkmecomoverther and that is exactly the reason many Christians have been saying ENOUGH is ENOUGH and don’t want to even bother discussing the matter. An atheist or Queer gets in my face with their mouthy BS, They get a FIST, back in theirs.

          As for you Jerry, when a Christian comes to talk to you about the lord, and you tell them to get lost, GUESS what they do??

          They LEAVE! They walk away.

          NO ONE FORCES NOTHING ON YOU LIAR but ISLAM WILL. That is the one you called less of a threat. That is what told me,. you just ain’t thinkin right, Hoss

        2. How bad do you want to know Challenger? You a Tough guy too? or just another gatheist who got his witto feewings hurt

        3. Sure Katy I’m a tough guy like you too. I can make big tough comments and insult people, like you, tough guy.

        4. Well of course you can, as evidenced by every inane and butt stupid post you have made, Hoss. Now when it comes to intelligent debate, however can you do that too? or is making mock ups of your opposing interlocutors names and trolling them, best you got?

  21. What the hell is peoples problem a church with a naked man…Bunch of weird freaks.
    God will always be here and prevale over all the evil of this world…Just because you do not believe in him..Your problemYou can take our bible you can stop open prayer but always in our heart …No man can take that away fron us…

    1. That doesn’t mean atheists won’t try. If they had THERE way, all of us would be walking around with the right side of our brains missing

  22. “The First Church of Atheism is formed around the belief that the mysteries of life can be explained through science and reason.”

    O.k. ,so if they have everything figured out and don’t believe in God – exactly what *mysteries of life” are they talking about??

    1. Why should atheists care what church you go to or what you do? Why should you care what atheists do? I wish people would learn to mind their own business!

  23. A religion that recognizes no deity or Supreme Being is hardly a religion, but it is a heck of a tax dodge. I’d love to see “science” explain the formation of a living organism, why it has symmetry, why it is animate, what drives it to seek survival, etc.

    1. It’s called the theory of evolution via natural selection. If it didn’t seek survival it wouldn’t stay alive. Not a great question.

      1. Actually, it IS a great question and one which I know you can not answer. Where did life begin? No one in science can answer that…and if they’re honest they will admit that to you. One of two things is true:

        1) Life came via a supernatural event


        2) life is the result of spontaneous generation.

        Louis Pasteur proved spontaneous generation to be impossible long ago; as have many since. That leaves the supernatural.

        1. “Louis Pasteur proved spontaneous generation to be impossible long ago; as have many since. That leaves the supernatural.”

          No he didn’t, he just failed to create it. It’s only a matter of time before science fills that gap. Not like you’ll care, you’ll just ask people to explain existence itself and call that god.

        2. YES; HE DID. And MANY others since. NOT ONE person has succeeded in producing ‘life’ in a lab. You would flunk basic science with your current level of knowledge.

        3. Quote:”It’s only a matter of time before science fills that gap.”

          Looks like a Faith based statement if I ever saw one

        4. Looks like you don’t understand the difference between evidence and faith.

        5. I do when you don’t HAVE any evidence by your testimony you idiot.
          You said, Quote: “It’s only a matter of time before science fills that gap” You mean has any evidence, and saying it is only a matter of time, is a faith based statement that you have faith in science discovering the evidence to fill that gap and prove Pasteur was wrong because the only thing separating you from faith based statement where you speculate a future where Pasteur is proven wrong and the evidence that makes that prophesy a statement of fact, is the evidence.

          Until then, Hoss,

          Keep the faith

        1. He asked many questions in his statement. Is it that difficult for you to hold two concepts in your head?

        1. What science? The ‘theory’ of evolution, as you called it, is still just that, a theory. What scientific proof is there which proves evolution?

  24. Do You Atheist know why you don’t believe in God ? – Because you are not searching for him. God wants to be found by his created man. It says so In the Bible in Jeremiah chapter 29 verses 11, 12, 13, and 14…….then follow that passage with Jeremiah chapter 33 verse 3…………….GET OUT OF THE FLESH way of thinking……..and live by the spirtual deeds……spoken in Galations chapter 5 verses 22 thru 26…….Have a good day.

    1. If the atheists do t believe in god, it amazingly illogical that theyngoodmgoodmhealth care what’s I the bible. Didn’t that occur to you. This group gets nuttier every day. Slow Obama hate day….too bad

      1. No it’s not illogical, because people like you do care what’s in the Bible. We’d prefer it wasn’t relevant, but people like you force it on us.

  25. Purely insane. Let them do their stupidity all they want; it doesn’t change the truth in any way; but it sure would be funny to watch these idiots. Just what would they celebrate?…believing in ‘not believing’? That’s a belief…

  26. Having had the gays hijack the meaning of the word marriage, I object strongly to your assisting the atheists to hijack the word church.

    Church is defined as a meeting to honor God or have a religious service. Since atheists are by definition godless………

    Why can’t you call them godless assemblies or godless unions or such.

    Thank you very much.


    1. Hey old geezer.. Can you post Coherently and don’t use all caps. It really shows the delusional,pathetic nature of your fellow ranters. Nothing you say makes any sense. Just read it.

  28. This is a very strange article, and one that seems to throw ALL people who are not believers into a single mold.

    It doesn’t seem like people who DON’T believe in a god would be any more of a homogeneous bunch that people who DO..

    I guess it is way easier to make overarching generalizations about people if you cast them as being all the same. Very simple ideas for very simple people.

  29. Your story is about 180 years late. Socialist industrialist Robert Owen opened an atheistic “Church of Reason” in London around 1840. Founder of Communism, Friedrich Engels, attended “services” there in 1843.

  30. And you people care about this……because? And it bothers you because you are deeply threatened? You guys and gals never cease to amaze. I do believe Pippa was being a bit ironic but then irony is not a tenet of Christianity. Must be a slow Obama hate day. Can’t you rail about that 2.4 B Obama spent on his vacation. I personally supported W wacking weeds for 973 days. It kept the boy from thinking too much….always a scary proposition. But yes do be very scared of the atheist churches. Even worse than Shria law. Go eat more chicken and buy some crafts. Hobby Lobby is having some problem.

      1. These particular Christians surely are. I shudder to think of their poor miserable lives as they troll to find stuff to hate. I’m quite sure their god is losing a bit of patience.

  31. If the Atheists want to form their midnight choir in HELL then they are free to do so but what they really want is to persecute and ridicule anyone who does believe in G_d, that is readily apparent with the lawsuits from all of the atheist groups over every public uttering of a religious term or biblical display. I don’t know why they need the formation of a group to say we believe in nothing unless it’s for a tax exempt status but their demonization of Christians closely parallels the sexual deviates constant struggle to be the new norm so they can feel that they are the mainstream and feel better about themselves. The bottom line is that equality is already guaranteed under present laws and we don’t need new hate crime laws to protect them; to add laws making a crime against a homosexual or any other special group any worse than any other person is discrimination not equal protection.

    1. “but what they really want is to persecute and ridicule anyone who does believe in G_d

      As soon as you Christians stop ridiculing other groups, we’ll stop ridiculing you. Fair enough?

  32. Science and reasoning??? Wake up numbskulls and tell me how it is prophesied that Israel will be here until Christ’s return, yet no country has been threatened with armies so vast and outnumbering Israel for 2,000 yrs and guess what? They are still here. That is just one example out of hundreds. I feel so sad for you slugs of life.

  33. Ok athiests, where is your Bible? Which one of you was resurrected
    from death to save you from Hell? Who is your risen savior? Even better,
    where is your book of prophesies? And if there is one, show me which ones
    came true and which ones have been wrong? Lower yourself to read
    Deuteronomy 18:21 and you will find the answer to the question about failed
    prophesies. Why do you think thousands upon thousands of people through
    history believed in God? You think they were all unenlightened like you? Really!
    Now then, I presume you believe there is neither a satan nor a Hell. I am a scientist,
    but please don’t put me in your category of scientists who believe that everything
    can be explained by science. The fool says there is no God. Likewise, the fool says there
    is no satan. Wise up before your find that there is a Hell, and there is 100%
    probability you are headed there. Have a nice day while you can.

  34. Have you ever noticed how quiet atheists are after something like the Sandy Hook massacre? It’s because they have no consolation, no comfort, no hope, only, sorry there is no god and you are just an animal. So how’s that working for all you atheists?

    1. So you know a lot of atheists and know they are so bereft? I hadn’t noticed that the far right, left or LSM really run stories about what atheists think about a national catastrophe. Perhaps Rush and Glen should. But then you right wing extremists seem to have your pulse on the thinkings of everyone. Bravo. Gonnamgo google atheist reaction toe Sandy Hook. Bet they are too sad to say. Old geezer nutcases unite.

    2. I’m an atheist and I cried many tears over the recent shootings. I actually sent donations to the kids so they would have a little extra christmas joy during this time of grief.

      What makes you cast these completely false accusations on people you don’t know, Wayne?

      1. Quote: “I don’t like what religions have done to the world. I can’t wait till religions are all powerless.” – Jerry Marl

        Oh I don’t know? Perhaps your broad brush ? Your anti religious bigotry and false assumption that EVERYTHING religion is about is bad that it has no redeeming quality what so ever and that your double standards gives anyone a right to judge you as you judge others in unrighteous judgement.

        That might be the reason Wayne does that Jerry. If not, It sure is the reason I do jughead.

  35. If you don’t believe in God or a higher being, why waste your time in church???? Atheists really are stupid. Have you not got better things to do with your time?????

    1. The same could be asked of you since you are posting here as well. Probably need to look up that word oxymoron.

  36. What an oxyMORON! This is pretty close to my all time favorite oxymoron, government efficiency. Leftists really are pathetic, clueless jokes.

      1. Maybe you should expand your vocabulary and learn what the word oxymoron means.

        Remember, it is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

        1. How ironic that you suggest to me I should look up a word when you clearly don’t know its definition; a cliche can very easily be a quote.

  37. If atheists put their “faith” in humankind (as stated above) then they must be very despondent when the humans they so admire perform badly…which is seen every single day in any newspaper you pick up.

  38. There’s both money and power in “organization”. Human beings seem to inevitably lose sight of the original “mission”. Remember the “environmental” movement of the 60s? great work in combating smog, and cleaning up waterways. Remember when welfare benefited poor married couples with kids? Remember when the civil rights movement strove for equal opportunity and a color blind society? Remember when unions were all about worker safety and fair wage in the private sector? Remember the U.S. Constitution and “One Nation Under God”?

    Humanity is flawed and stunningly arrogant, when left to it’s own devices, with no faith in or gratitude to a greater power. Individual leaders, secular organizations, and governments will always disappoint. They will ultimately be led or hijacked by those with blind lust for power over others. Sadly, too many believe the promises and propaganda.

      1. I have the freedom to believe and you have the freedom not to believe. Don’t criticize my faith and I will not criticize your lack of faith. What is asinine is persons who dedicate themselves to ridiculing persons of faith then establish their own ‘worship’ centers. As I said, totally and frankly asinine.

        1. The moment you “Christians” stop ridiculing other groups, we will stop ridiculing you. Fair enough?

        2. Who are Christians ridiculing? Christians don’t ridicule, they pray. Btw, I’m not a Christian.

        3. Comprehension is not a dirty word. Reread the last sentence in my post above yours to which I am replying. Really, you’re monumentally stupid.

        4. You are defending Christians, saying they don’t ridicule. That’s all I needed to read.

          I didn’t missed the last bit of your comment , didn’t realize that made me “stupid” though,. You sure are judgemental and like to slam everyone, don’t you troll?

        5. How do Christians ridicule? Do you have any verifiable examples? Do you have some facts to back up your accusation? You “didn’t missed”? That sounds pretty stupid to me.

  39. Atheism, communism, gay marriage advocates and anarchists have many basic beliefs in common. No God, no Christian values, principles and morals and no value for the family unit of a man, a woman and their children.

    1. I don’t believe in God and I believe in family values. I don’t cheat on my wife. My children are healthy and happy. You know what your problem is Steve? You don’t know anyone outside of your “christian” circle and you assume a LOT about people you don’t know.

  40. Why would people who don’t believe in anything need a church ? Kind of an oxymoron don’t ya think ?…Assholes,every one of them,they will have their day,a day when they meet their true maker. That will be a dark day indeed…

  41. “But atheism isn’t a “nonbelief.” If it were, then other people’s
    religious expressions wouldn’t torment atheists the way they claim in
    their myriad lawsuits.”

    Over on YAHOO ANSWERS, I bought up the fact, in the form of a question, to show the illogical stand of the so called atheists ACCUSING the God that they CLAIM NOT to believe in of SENDING people to hell and for all the bad things that happen in the world, et al…. and someone answered saying that they weren’t really ATHEISTS, but ANTI-THEISTS….

    And isn’t it “funny” how the so-called atheists have NO PROBLEM with ISLAM, but just with the God of the Bible…..and the Christian faith, just as the world, mostly via the UN, have turned against the nation of Israel and her people, no matter where they are in the world. Anti-semitism is growing to alarming rates again in Europe. The very presence and existence of ISRAEL is a reminder of GOD and His presence in the earth and His Sovereignty.

    Satan has been coming against the nation and people of Israel for THOUSANDS of yrs., knowing that THROUGH Israel, the Savior and Messiah….Y’SHUA (JESUS) would come and defeat satan forever….which He absolutely and totally accomplished,…..

    Satan does not BOTHER with the false religions of the world, especially ISLAM, because he KNOWS that they are not the TRUTH…,, and that those who follow islam ALREADY BELONG TO HIM….. He knows what the TRUTH is and he wants to keep those who are lost from finding out the TRUTH before they leave this world, unless they hear the TRUTH and receive Jesus as their Savior……..

    2 COR. 4:3-5
    JOHN 3:18-21

  42. As long as there is no body harm to any one, so what.. they should have their meeting places. Just shut up about it and move on and do not push you belief on to us. Do you think muslims are going to let you live if you do not belief in the sharia laws and the islamic laws, so do what you can when you can, l for one will believe in God and Jesus.What the heck do you think FEMA camps are? modern days nazi camps

    1. “Christian: if you don’t believe in us, our loving god will torture you for eternity”

      and you wonder why Christians are the laughing stock of the world and losing membership by the droves.

      1. SO, eight people and some animals survived the Noahic flood. God is not interested in crowds of people. He’s not interested in polls. He will fulfill His Word.”Strait is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life eternal.”Jesus predicted and the prophets before Him predicted that men would be haters of God and lovers of themselves. If madison avenue is waiting for a call from Jesus they don’t need to hold their breath.

    1. Your “God” allowed Sandy Hurricane to hit just before the election, giving Obama a big last minute boost. You christians probably prayed for Obama’s election defeat more than you’ve prayed for anything else! It’s really starting to look like God isn’t on your side.

      1. There you go again, Jerry. You seem to be positing that God, if he/she exists, is an interventionist. Many Christians accept the idea of a mechanistic universe with God as the guy who wound it up and started it. God may “watch” the sparrow, but the sparrow falls and dies anyway. Are you angry that you are mortal?

  43. If Londoners can get their psyches around Gay “Marriage”, surely an Atheist “Church” is not only understandable. it’s perfectly logical.

    1. Why does any heterosexual have trouble getting their “psyche’s” around “gay marriage” ?? I’m hetero and didn’t even give gay-marriage a second thought! Why are you Christians so damned obsessed with this? Who cares what other consenting adults do!!!! If you don’t want to be gay – DONT BE GAY! .. If you believe marriage is between a man and a woman – THEN DONT MARRY SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX! Jeez, you people are so dense!

      1. Sorry, Jerry. You say “you Christians”, ….Most Christians would deny me that appellation, as I am a Universalist. If you’re hetero and can see nothing beyond whether it bothers you or not, I suggest you have little to no respect for the underlying bases for traditions in general, and the social effects of radical changes. No, it’s not about whether it bothers you or me in the short term…. shall we now begin to discuss density? I suggest you don’t go there, sir, I believe you to be a lightweight.

    1. “Church” comes fro the Scottish “kirk’ which was translated from the Greek “ecclesia” which only means gathering or assembly, without religious or secular designation.

  44. the word “Church” or “Ecclesia” does not apply to you and you should not use that word. It is basicallty a word used ONLY to Catholicism. The word was established by Christ to the Church He founded and to no other.

      1. You can use any word you wish, but if you assign some definition of its meaning that is NOT the accepted definition then you’re going to find communication very difficult. Words HAVE meanings for a reason.

    1. Ignore Jerry….. like Humpty Dumpty in Alice in Wonderland, be believes that a word means only what he wishes it to mean. As HD said, “It’s a matter of who is to be the master!” This is consistent with propaganda theory…. he who controls the language controls thought (1984). Also, he who controls the language, controls the past; he who controls the past controls the present; he who controls the present, controls the future. It’s also consistent with Alinsky-style debate…… never let your opponent frame the issues or the defining language of the debate. BTW: He has no past, therefore he has no future.

    2. The word “catholic” only means “universal” which obviously isn’t so either. Ecclesia is Greek for “assembly” or “gathering”. And it doesn’t specify secular or religious.

  45. I was married in an Atheist ceremony in the library of a Unitarian Church by the same Reverend who married Richard Burton to Elizabeth Taylor the second time. Located in Montreal – many years later the church was mysteriously burned to the ground. Divine revenge? Anyway we broke up twenty years later over religious differences. I’m an Atheist, she was a Swedish Agnostic. My current wife is a practicing Catholic. I drive her to and from church – occasionally sit with her. While I’m an atheist I pose no threat to North American CHRISTIAN heritage and symbols thereof. Nor do I feel offended by Christian faith. Just Islam – now THAT’s an offense to all that’s holy!

    1. Muslims didn’t elect G.W. Bush , Christians did. Christians are a MUCH greater threat to America than Muslims at this point, though I think once both of these religions are in the dustbin of history humanity will be much better off.

        1. I’m a bigot, because?

          I don’t like what religions have done to the world. I can’t wait till religions are all powerless. How does that make me a bigot?

        2. What has religion done to the world Jerry? Some . . . quite a bit of damage . . . like say Izzzlam and Athiesm.
          But Judaism and Christianity brought us the Democracies of Europe and are the founding philosophy behind the USA.
          So . . . how would life be like for you today Jerry with no USA . . . I would suggest it would be a little different . . . maybe like living in say China . . . or maybe living in an Izzzzlamic Califat . . . just sayin ! ! !

      1. You got to admit Jerry . . . if we did not get Bush . . . we would have gotten Krazy Al . . . and would have crashed long before 2008 with his looney Green stuff. By the way Jerry . . . how do you feel about Fat Al selling his share of Current TV to the Arabs for $100,000 Oil and Gas Money from the UAE?
        And of course compared to the current occupant . . . Bush did a far better job . . . my evidence you say . . . the soon to be 22 Trillion Dollar Deficit.

        1. I’m glad Al Gore wasn’t elected president. I don’t like dishonest people. I don’t like people who pretend to love their wife then go around and cheat on them.

      2. In Islam’s supposedly holy book, Allah makes it clear he expects his slaves, all Muslims must swear to be slaves to Allah, to become Muslims, that he expects them to conquer and/or dominate the world, in his name. Muslims claim there are at least 1.5 billion of them. If only 1% are determined to achieve Allah’s goal, that is at least 1.5 million fighters, or potential terrorists, at war with the non-Muslim world. In reality, there is at least one whole Muslim country, Iran, that’s leaders are determined to achieve that goal, and are developing the nuclear weapons, and missles to carry them, to use towards that end. Chrisitianity may be Islam’s biggest enemy, but, the goal of dominating the whole world, makes all non-Muslims their enemy. Read the Quran, if you don’t believe me, and haven’t already. If you haven’t, you don’t know your enemy.

        1. Bigger threat is slightly north and has western trust in a way that Iran doesn’t, but the threat there is greater, none-the-less. Also don’t underestimate the Saudis, birth place of the MB, before they were forced out and moved to Egypt almost a century ago.

      3. History has already proven you wrong idiot, moreover, your statement is so anathema to everything our constitution stands for, it is a shame I went to defend your right to say something so butt stupid in the military serving many years in the Middle East, I can GUARANTEE YOU,, your ideas about islam and Christianity would have you BEGGING to live among those evil Christians inside a week. What you just said is the most ridiculous comment I have heard anyone suggest.

        1. Muslims are a super minority compared to Christians in America. If they had any where NEAR the numbers that you Christians do in America, they would OBVIOUSLY be a greater threat than Christians now are. I have never disputed this fact! You obviously have LOGIC and READING comprehension problems. I said “Christians are a greater threat to America *AT THIS POINT <– key words. Learn to use the brain that your god gave you. I'm speaking of INTERNAL threats. You did vote for Bush didn't you? If yes, you prove my point. A citizenry capable of electing someone like Bush is a much greater threat than the man himself.

        2. As not a great as threat to a citizenry electing the likes of carter,clinton, gore, kerry, mondale, muskie,etc. Yeah,yeah, I didn’t capitalise their names. My caps work fine. I just didn,t see the need to capitalise their names. OK?

      4. So atheists elected barack obama and bill clinton. These jerks sure haven’t done ANYTHING positive for this country.

    2. You are what I call an oldschool atheist. They are rare these days and I got along with all of them. You are not the type of person I am so enraged against. It is the new atheists that see a nativity scene at Christmas and act like a vampire caught in the suns rays

  46. Isn’t that combination of words an OXYMORON? Atheist Church? Isn’t a church where Christians go to worship? If there is No God…what do Athiests worship?

    1. That was the POINT of creating the “church”. It was a joke. It’s not intended to be serious.

      It’s funny how many of you conservatives never bother to read the articles you are replying to. (That,. or your reading comprehension skills are worse than my 1st grader!)

  47. They could talk about members of their atheist faith murdering children in school and other places. How China’s Moe of the athesis faith murdered 26.3 million of his own people.

    1. There is no such thing as “atheist faith” … It does not take faith to NOT believe in a god that YOU HAVE NEVER PROVEN.

      I don’t believe in GUILT by association … Humans do some WICKED things. Humans also do some amazing, selfless things. I only associate with the good guys. (Half of the people I value as true friends believe in God, the other half simply chose not to believe)

      I happen to be of the belief that EACH person is responsible for their own path. You conservatives HATE the idea of personal responsibility!Your lives are already “scripted” so why should you?

  48. But in the END – the Wrong shall fail and RIGHT prevail, with Peace on Earth
    Good Will toward men ! God Bless America they have been ill a long time
    and need your healing hand. Pray,Pray,Pray !!

    1. they did it to troll petty reactions from silly insecure Christians. It worked well, looking at the responses this article is getting.

      1. awe you just love it don’t ya Jerr! You ever visit Greta Christina’s blog? I can show ya the same exists there of your kind

  49. I’m open to the possibility of being proven wrong about anything in life — if I’m wrong, prove it to me! But for now I’m not convinced that there is any GOD.

    It’s incredible how many of you make so many sweeping judgement’s about every aspect of my character as a human being based on this skepticism of mine!

    I identify as an atheist — although I suppose some would classify me as an agnostic. I ensure you that millions of others you classify as “Atheist” share this same healthy skepticism. Hey, it’s on you to prove us wrong about God. We just think the odds are overwhelmingly against your ability to do so.

    1. In an infinite universe, logic dictates, the odds are the same all ways around.

      Look, you atheists think the onus is always on us to prove something to individuals that for all intents and purposes, are saying “I DARE YOU TO GET ME TO AGREE WITH YOU” I gave up on trying to prove something to someone where the evidence is everywhere you look, once you examine what it is you reject about the idea. It has nothing to do with the evidence but the religious implications you just refuse to be accountable to anyone or anything higher than man himself. I got BIG problem with that. If it is true God created the universe, indeed all physical matter, then all physical matter used as evidence would have nothing you could compare it to.

      Conventional wisdom would dictate, that you would have NO IDEA what physical matter used as evidence, NOT made by God, even looked like.

      Now people like you and that brit twit Dick Dawkins, can say life and matter LOOKS like it was designed followed by dicks disclaimer but that its an illusion, all day long if he likes. To those that have common sense however, if I see man copy a bird to make an airplane and claim intellectual property rights,, I am wondering why atheists are not inundating patent offices with law suits challenging intellectual property as all an illusion

        1. Ha ha ha ha Naaah I didn’t feel better until I saw this

          “Everything you wrote is bullshit obviously.”

          Wow, you sure proved that one conclusively, Hoss.

          How do we know its all Bullshit again?? Because YOU SAY SO!

          Yeah,, I feel lots better. Nothing better than having ones opposing interlocutors make my argument for me

        2. “How do we know its all Bullshit again?? Because YOU SAY SO!”

          How do we know that whole notion of God ISN’T BULLSHIT?
          Because YOU SAY SO.

        3. Atheism is not bullshit the same way not believing in Unicorns is not bullshit – it’s a sensible position to take based on the evidence.

        4. Well, unless you atheists like spending your time arguing with bullshitters, and those you call superstitious flat earthers in what seems to preoccupy the lions share of their time. Then, you are either more insane, than you say WE are. You are the ones always making comparisons to belief in Santa Clause and Belief in God as being the same but I don’t see atheist’s pulling the beards off Santa clause during the Christmas Holiday, in all shopping malls, exposing them as frauds and myths. But that is because YOU know, they are NOT the same kinds of beliefs and is why you are so busy HERE instead, actively disbelieving in God as hard as you can.

          No one spends their time arguing with the insane. I don’t believe in reptilians and THAT is why I don’t waste time talking to them, much less arguing with them. You on the other hand,,

          you believe,, you just dare us to prove God to you, so you can finally free yourselves of that confounded private hell you atheists live in

        5. The hilarity of you responding by explicitly saying something I said implicitly. Catching on yet?

      1. Actually, I like Pat as atheist go, he is more reasonable than most. He thinks atheists that sue in all these petty law suits, are just that,,


  50. First Atheist Church in London?? Except for Metropolitan Tabernacle, London has been full of false Christian Churches (Atheist Churches) for over a century. Am I wrong? Try to find a good Christian Bookstore anywhere in London. Try to find a “church” that preaches repentance of sin and Christ crucified….and I mean anywhere in London

  51. So just what do atheists do in an Atheist Church? C;mon, really?
    Unless they’re really praying and singing to Satan? So what sort of hymns do they sing?
    “Your Nothingness is our Blessed Hopelessness?” “Our NonRedeeemer Doesn’t Exist?”
    “My Highest for His Nothingness?” “Do What You Want, Nothing Matters Anyway?”
    Whose their High Priest? Nietzsche? Bertrand Russell?

  52. I do believe we need not give any of these people notice……Ok…they got their 15 seconds of fame…..time to move on…

  53. I am sending this as it seems you need some education.

    First, I am a Agnostic Atheist Activist who has been an Atheist for 69
    of my 78 years & for well over half of a century an Atheist Activist.
    As such I’ve done more to further the cause of Atheism than have, I
    shall estimate, at least 98% of all other Atheists.

    Second, Those who know me well attest I am one of, if not the single
    most truthful person they have ever known and I can supply references on

    Third, I AM not only many times more
    experienced than are most of those who are 78, I am also more generally
    knowledgeable and more intelligent than are 97.5%.

    Forth, Anyone who says that “Atheism is a religion” has NO Clue as to
    the facts!

    The ONLY thing which ALL Atheists have in common is their NOT believing
    in one, or more gods.


    As religion IS a belief in NON-Existent things there is NO Logical or
    Rational or Intelligent way Atheism is a religion!



    Please, Take Care!

    Neil C. Reinhardt

    A 78 year old Pro Iraq War Agnostic Atheist Activist and 101st Airborne
    Former member of management in some of Top American 500 corporations.

    Also ‘formally’ a Fire Walking, Deep Sea – Scuba Diving, Paratrooping,
    Bungee Jumping, Spelunking, 1 & 3 Meter Spring Board Diving, Partying &
    Dancing, Rock Climbing, River Rapid Running, Expert Shooting, Life
    Saving, Body Surfing and Beach VolleyBall Playing Son of a Beach.

    Still a very Truth Telling, No BS, Women Chasing (92 times Catching)
    Iconoclastic, Philosophizing, Crime Stopping, and a “Barking” Grumpy Old
    “Son Of A Beach.”

    1. Tell it to the atheist putting up churchs everywhere Hoss, Then maybe you won’t see so many saying its a religion because you can’t have it BOTH WAYS

        1. So you know everyone I have met to know this to be true yes?

          Or is it more likely you’re just being a jerk because that is what atheists do when they confront someone that can hand their ass back to em. They change their name containing the person putting a hurt on their brain mixing it with some ad hom insult that I suspect is supposed to have some effect on their supposed target individual, or the one their debate skills can not match. You know, someone like you for example

        2. “when they confront someone that can hand their ass back to em” Cute :)

          Still not quite there yet. Maybe you’ll get it someday?

    1. Such a loving God where his followers revel at the thought of pain of others. Such a loving God that would burn a person in hell forever for simply ignoring him. A logical God would know that there are many black sheep among the “christian faith” who are ruining Christianities reputation. He would know that many so-called “Christians” are PUSHING PEOPLE AWAY in DROVES. Yet he would still inflict pain and misery on those people forever?
      Not a loving God at all…
      This same god that actually condoned the murdering of his own creation at one point simply because they ate shrimp or pork. Or if they worked on Sunday — OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.
      Your religion is no more sane or logical than Islam. Islam is still going through the “dark ages” turning point that Christianity (Mostly) went through centuries ago. But both of your religions are corrupt to the core. I respect your right to observe your corrupt cult , just don’t try to push your BS on me.

      1. Jerry, God gave you life free of charge so life doesn’t owe you a damn dime much less an explanation why the God that created life doesn’t reserve the right to take it away. Besides, who the hell are you to complain, when evolution is well known to be a dog eat dog world where you agree to its pitiless indifference, yet you attempt to shame God or religion because of the pain and suffering you use as the only reason to believe in God, if just for a few seconds, just so you can criticize that God for the things he does as if YOU could do any better. It never ceases to amaze me how many atheists think life is supposed to be fair and because it is NOT fair, GOD doesn’t exist. You blame God for all the wars and evil in the world accepting no responsibility for your own wretched actions and when we tell you about it, you blame us for pushing atheists away in droves calling truth, hatred and bigotry.

        Truth is always hate.

        to those that hate

        the truth

  54. Wow…I’d have a hard time as a thinking human being (of course, that thought is only out of natural phenomenon) buying in to their doctrinal statement. In part, it says “We have faith solely in humankind, nature, and the facts of science.” I’m not sure if anyone else finds that statement to be as inconsistent as I do, but if we examine these things one by one I think you will agree there are a few problems. “Humankind” – what part of humankind do they put there trust solely in? Humankind is as diverse as any living creature the inhabits our planet. We are liberal or conservative, social or home bodies, kind or nasty, loving or hateful, giving or selfish, etc. We are all flawed, but some are much more difficult than others to deal with. Some want to build up while others want to tear down. How can you put you faith solely in “humankind” that is so inconsistent and unpredictable? “The facts of science” – which facts are those? It was only 4 or 5 centuries ago that it was a “scientific fact” that the earth was flat! Today scientists seem to practice the science of politics rather than pure science. Science Group A is funded by liberal organizations and with little surprise they say with “absolute certainty” that climate change is a scientific fact and that those who disagree are idiots. Science Group B looks at the same evidence and deducts that this is the same normal climate change that has been occurring on planet earth for thousands of years. Science has come a long way in our lifetimes, however even today, while scientists have learned how to CLONE cells (copy the original) they still are nowhere near being able to create even a single cell living organism from non-living matter. Science is amazing…and we have learned fascinating things about our planet and our universe. But this is a constantly changing field where old “facts” are discarded as new discoveries are made! You want to put your “faith solely in” something that is constantly changing??? Finally, “nature” – nature is truly amazing! How did all of this amazing beauty just happen? Evolutionists would tell is that it was over time – BILLIONS of years. However I don’t think a man who is honest with his thoughts can truly say that evolution can truly explain the magnificence of all that is around us. In fact, in the Word of God, Paul writes in Romans 1:19-20 ”

    [19] For what can be *known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. [20] For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, *have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.”

    In bible scholarship, this is called the “general revelation” of God to man! He created all that is so that we would be “without excuse” at recognizing His invisible attributes. He even made it “plain to see” so that ALL humankind would be able to grasp it…from the most educated PhD to the tribesman of as yet unknown tribes of the world! This creation includes ALL things…big and small! From the outer edges of our universe to the microscopic inner workings of a human cell or the sub-atomic particles that comprise the atom – the smallest chemical unit. Irreducible complexity is the concept that things can only be reduced to their bare components and no further. In the case of a human cell, this leaves us with a helix shaped strand of DNA which in incredibly complex on it’s own. Forget creating a cell…science can not even create a strand of DNA from raw elements without copying it. If you are one who puts your faith solely into these things, I would challenge you to simply consider the human body in it’s amazing for with all of it’s intricate systems. Consider the human eye…much faster and more precise than the most advanced camera or lens ever made. I commend you for recognizing nature for it’s amazing beauty and unspeakable majesty. But don’t stop with the creation…the Creator loves you and desires to have a personal relationship with you by faith in His son, Jesus Christ! Atheism is simply a way for man to erase God so that he can be his own god. If there is no God, then it can be argued that there are no rules and therefore man is free to engage in whatever form of ungodly behavior he chooses – without consequences! The TRUTH is that there is a God, there are rules, there will be consequences with none so severe as what there will be if you stand before Him at you judgement day without having a saving relationship with Jesus. I know you can’t see God so it is easy to say He doesn’t exist. But, you can’t see wind, or electricity, but you believe they exist because you see their evidence in the glow of a light bulb or the fluttering of a leaf on a tree. The evidence that He exists is the creation that He put all around you and “made it plain to see” so that you “would be without excuse”!

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    1. Human Kind? I always see atheists have a problem with the word “Kind” especially when you talk about living things having the seed of their own kind. Yet they have no issue understanding it as humankind. Naturally you would think they would know they all carry the seed of human kind. I guess they get selectively stupid when it comes to Genesis and just play dumb. Or they actually are that dumb.

  55. I can see the religious bigots are out in full force here today. And not a one of them realizes that someone who sees mysticism as the utter nonsense it is can be more Conservative than most Conservatives. Just as there are those calling themselves Christian Liberals, don’t lump all atheists together as being leftwingers.

    1. You’re an outlier, they have to pretend people like you don’t exist. They can’t be throwing away their massively simplistic categorization of everything by simple labels just because you want to be a unique human being.

    2. Oh you are so right, I get it I know it’s true, all white people CAN jump okay, okay! All Black people don’t have rhythm and Japanese people don’t all walk around with cameras on their chest at universal studios, okay alright , and all Muslims don’t get angry when anyone draws pictures of Muhammad okay okay. Atheists don’t all think they know more about science than Christians do, before the debate even begins, Okay alright. Queers never think someone is bigoted full of hatred just for disagreeing with them, Okay alright I get it and Jews are ALWAYS WILLING TO PICK UP THE TAB.

      Yeah,, you’re right about exceptions to the rule but we aren’t talking about the exceptions, Hoss. Nor does your pointing out there ARE exceptions, give us reason to change our opinion about the rule and the rule still stands when the shoe fits.

      You wear it well

  56. This is good. Now the religious belief of Atheism can’t hide behind having nothing. They now have a “church” to protect in debate and to do missionary work for. They must conform to all the rules and regs that other churches have. They will lose a debate and it will be “glorious” to quote Worf.

      1. It needs people to stand up for their beliefs. Look what has happened politically when the people or politicians don’t stand up. When the battleground is ready it is necessary for the battle to begin. Not just some phony war. That is what is needed.

        1. In looking at this I see no evidence to support your opinion. What I wrote in the first and second comment wasn’t responded to.

  57. Atheist Church? Isn’t that a oxymoron? I mean…. who do they worship? Who do they prey too? At the end of the day, I suppose it is in fact a religion. I see many of them proselytizing constantly anywhere I go and to be sure, it takes at least as much faith to believe all this came from nowhere as it does to believe it came from God. My species continues to amuse me. No wonder dogs love us so much. Maybe God just made us for his own amusement,

  58. This is almost to comicle for words, first Athiest do not belive in God or anyother diety.
    I must admit it would be intersting to attend their meeting and see what pegan ritulas they
    perform and to what even more so. I suspect it would be to who ever brews the best booze.
    They do not acknowledge any diety that I’ve ever hear of nor satan either. From my
    experience in Viet Nam I heard many supposedly Athiest who prayed when under fire form
    either bullets or rockets.

    1. “supposedly Athiest”

      That just means some of them were only supposedly atheist. Brushes with death don’t make me start believing in the tooth fairy, any gods are no different.

  59. The message of freedom found in Leviticus 25:10, “Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof.”

    John Jay, first Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court,cautioned Americans with the following words on 12 October 1816: “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.

    On January 10, 1776, Thomas Paine published Common Sense, one of the most influential writings of the American Revolution, and asked therein, “But where says some is the king of America? I’ll tell you Friend, he reigns above…. [L]et a day be solemnly set apart for proclaiming the charter; let it be brought forth placed on the divine law, the word of God; let a crown be placed thereon, by which the world may know, that so far as we approve of monarchy, that in America the law is king.”

    Truett Cathy, Founder and CEO of Chick-fil-A, was born of March 14, 1921. He believes that principles are to be placed above profit which is echoed in the Corporate Purpose of Chick-fil-A: “To glorify God by being a faithful steward of all that is entrusted to us. To have a positive influence on all who come in contact with Chick-fil-A.”

    Statements like Mr. Cathy’s USED to be the kind we held up in respect and honor. Notice how the narrative and philosophy sounds so similar to those many of the founders had. Today however, thanks to atheists and their secular demands to silence the Christian philosophy that BUILT this country, they enjoy, at our expense and their allies the queers and their homosexualization of the Military and Our Public Schools, we have produced several generations of complete idiots. A Science that wouldn’t know a logical argument if it bit them on the face and because deep down, they know this, they must wrap their beliefs in the very words they know absolutely NOTHING about. Words we see them attach to themselves everyday like “Logic and Reason” as if because of their atheism, they have a genetic predisposition for a superior grasp of science yet lose more debates on this matter when arguing Christian Scholars that it has atheism’s big guns chicken out of debates such as Dick Dawkins or it has them talking themselves into so much karmic receivership, it hits them right in the throat like it did “Xtopher Hitchens, who STILL refused to believe yet he chose a devout Christian for his Doctor. Very curious indeed but it still didn’t stop him from persecuting Christianity and just about the time we thought he may be having his affliction go into remission, he went right back on the lecture circuit bragging how this was in no way a sign from God and laughed at the idea.

    Then he died. Guess what he believes now. I know, you think who xtopher is was his all in his brain and that every thought he ever formulated was a chemical mixture that somehow he knew how to put together firing of the right neurons to move his hand to control his pen.

    No,, that was his Brain receiving but not creating. The only thing his brain does is facilitate the same actions you are executing where your computer is the body but the soul outside that computer running it is who we really are.

  60. Many people, regardless of their religion, wish to express their commitment to each other in a marriage ceremony. This is why there are atheist churches.
    Science is not negative; it’s just science. Maybe if you believed that the people the US drone attacks were being killed for real, you wouldn’t use religion to justify murder.

  61. In 1892 in the Church of the Holy Trinity v. United Statescase, after listing example after example of official acknowledgments of God and Christianity in America, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously held that “this is a Christian nation.”

    On October 3, 1789, one week after Congress approved the Bill of Rights, Pres. George Washington recognized “the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor,”

    because evolutionists instead interpret the fossil-bearing rock layers as a ‘record’ of millions of years of evolution (rather than a sequence of burial by the Genesis Flood and its after-effects), they are regularly surprised when fossil organisms just like those living today (so-called living fossils) are found ever deeper in the rock strata. And these latest horseshoe crab fossils4 represent a classic example of that.

    David Rudkin an evolutionary Research Scientist and Paleontologist for the Royal Ontario Museum in Canada admitted ‘This body plan that they’ve invented, they’ve stayed with it for almost half a billion years. It’s a good plan,’

    Our Nation is caving in on itself as we have been blind sided by attacks to our ideological and cultural American Standard of living, where we have sent so much of our factory jobs over seas America is no longer the Industrial juggernaut pumping out more airplanes and automobiles per week than anyone could have ever imagined before 20th century. We are getting hit by an adversarial Government that is no longer working for you, me, us and we the people but rather the planners of a one world central Government planned long ago. This BIG idea was fostered by elite members of mysterious secret groups like the masons, bilderberg and the illuminatti and financed by the super class or the top five families of the most wealth and power.

    We are bombarded by dooms day news forecasts everyday on facebook and twitter while at the same time everyone seems to be an expert and what or whom the puppet masters of the oligarchs are up to and how to stop them. I see Americans saying WAKE UP!! or casting blame on the Joooos or the zionists or the neocons or the progressives and communists etc.

    We see our local constabulary ordering tanks and urban assault vehicles while cops uniforms are looking more and more para military every day and Americans naturally ask,, what the hell are they preparing for? Then we see our Country being invaded by illegal aliens taxing our public services we have worked for decades to help OUR citizens when and if we need them, only to find it is OUR citizens most turned away while peoples from other Mexico, Guatemala, Somalia and other parts of south america, are receiving record entitlements, they are not entitled to, nor have they paid for them. The illegal aliens send the money they make back to families in Mexico while we pay for their housing, food and hospital care healthcare and even their education including college. This Americans have always known about but we didn’t really get angry about it until we started seeing importing a new culture of drug violence while they DEMANDED we owe them a living and a lifestyle WE had made them accustomed to.

    like many other new activist types, all claiming to be a victim of America and Americans, this would be another that suddenly had some strong belief they had as much right to all of our money and resources as we Americans but were now saying WE were occupying THERE land.

    THAT is what started making typical Americans like myself, say ENOUGH of this garbage for giving money to people that hate our guts. WE wanted our Government to STOP spending money on these ungrateful hateful illegal immigrants. I started seeing the anger expressed in ways that made me feel relieved someone was telling it like it is and like it needed to be expressed, with ANGER and RAGE as merely being outraged was a state of mind we are far past. In fact, if things continue to go further left, its going to get bloody and that you can count on.

        1. Just don’t want to pay for your heart attack. I doubt you can afford adequate medical care.

  62. There must be a guidance and that guidance must originate in a non-physical idea and then materialize either directly into these different patterns, or into an intermediate, or astral, body of just positive and negative, or yin and yang energies, which guides the strands into place.

    How could a spiritual idea simply manifest into something physical? I can’t explain it but I can point to a corresponding process where a spiritual, or non-physical idea or desire manifests into something physical. Every time you want to do something, that wanting, which is a non-physical, non-measurable experience, the precise thousands upon thousands of neurons are fired, which begin a cascade of processes that winds up with you actually doing what you wanted to do. In the same way that human behavior and human creativity begin with a desire or an idea which is then materialized; living beings, themselves, are the materialization of an idea which comes from a transcendent intelligence.

    In the debate Schirmer gets the whole thing rolling by saying something to the effect that, “science is discovering so much about the way things work that soon there will be nothing left for God to do.” This is one of those thoughtless statements that echoes through modern society making absolutely no sense but gaining seeming validity through mindless repetition

      1. and you continue reading nonsense why again? I can never work too hard to defend my when one can never work hard enough to cause me to doubt it

        1. You wouldn’t have to work hard if it wasn’t so easily doubted in the first place. Trust me, I don’t have to work at all anymore to understand evolution. It’s nice when stuff is actually true and I don’t have to constantly lie to myself like you.

  63. They call Christians “Flat Earthers” like we’re stupid. They say if the Bible were correct, it would have known the earth wasn’t flat. If atheist’s were correct, they would know what “Circle” means in Geometry including the Greek and Hebrew original languages.

    ( “Circle” in the hebrew is the same as in the greek, for “circle” in euclidian geometry, is used in context for globe, orb, round or sphere).

    Circular reasoning as in demanding censorship of creation science and intelligent design in schools and scientific journals, while simultaneously citing the resulting lack of those views in schools and journals as proof against it!

    Requesting increased spending by government to reduce poverty, when actually poverty is increased by the dependency

    Believing/claiming that the United Nations is better suited to judge and direct a country’s actions rather than the country itself.

    Claiming that it is extremely offensive to call any culture primitive or barbaric, except when they are talking about the writers of the Bible.

    Failing to respect (and sometimes utterly disrespecting, such as in flag desecration) the United States of America in general while continuing their residency herein and actively demanding the benefits and liberties that come with being a citizen

    Claiming that Christianity is not a form of diversity while praising Islam for this same reason. Later (whenever it benefits them), liberals will compare the two, claiming that few differences exist between them. Yet the biggest difference is that while a Christian who would commit a murder, does so in disobediance of what the Christian God teaches, The Muslim murders in complete obediance to their God of Allah and Muhammad is alleged messenger May Both Burn and rot in hell for all eternity.

    Philosophy (literally, “I love wisdom”) is the mental discipline that deals with what human beings know and how they know it.

    Treating as equal same sex couples to heterosexual regardless that only one type of sexual relationship has the power to further the species. The other, we get nothing from the same sex marriage couple and they give nothing either. Of charitble givers, homosexual groups giving to the less fortunate, is dead last in the list of groups that give to charity but when it comes to their own group, the demand we give them billions in aids research., This funding of course is not extra but rather the monies given to research like AIDS MRSA must come as a sacrifice from other disease research funding like Cancer, Alzheimers, Heart Disease etc. Betcha didn’t know that did you. Yeah, check it out for yourself, its a fact. So next time some liberal asks, how same sex marriage impacts you,, THINK twice before agreeing that same sex marriage and the homosexualization of our military indeed our nation, THINK of the impact it is having without the social taboos that kept this depravity in check or at least to a minimum. I know a world war two veteran that told me, Bullying in schools against gays never happend when I was in school and ya know why? I answered no, why? he said loudly, BECAUSE KIDS DIDN’T BEHAVE LIKE FAGS.

    “Sexuality is fluid,” acknowledges a GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network) sponsored “ Pride-works” seminar for teens. It “can change over time.”

    Sexuality is fluid? That isn’t sexuality, its called deviant promiscuity,, and most people experiment with lots of sexual kink and perversions but what has changed from the queer being the butt of a joke where we laughed at the thought of exchanging the close intimate look of the creamy smooth skin on a beautiful female bottom to some guy with plumbers crack and the rest of his hairy ass and testicles. Today, someone saying that comparison is quite normal and to laugh at the idea is something you should be ashamed of yourself for.

    WHAT THE HELL ARE MEN THINKING! ARE WE GOING INSANE? I know some out there think I am already insane for spewing such bigotry and hatred, To those that would think that, you must have used a lot of fluoridated water in that kool-aid you have been drinking.

      1. Hey sleazeball. I don’t chop chop for nobody. and I can never work too hard defending my faith for the same reason I can never have too much faith

        Oh and all that nonsense text you talk about,

        doesn’t seem to stop you from reading it

  64. It seemed every time the Church would marry two people of the opposite sex, a stunning revelation occurred to the Government that said WOW, these kinds of sexual relationships cause a lot of hardship on the families that come about as a result of this UNIQUE sexual relationship. Parents, usually the one living longest (females) who stayed home the most sacrificing careers and the subsequent pension plans they otherwise might have afforded had they NOT had the offspring that very often resulted from this special kind of sexual couple.

    Government in its interest to protect society from any harm that might come from the sacrifices parents make in raising the future of America, decided to help by agreeing with the Church in this regard because it benefited society as a whole and helped design laws for marriage whereby those getting married having the potential for offspring would be legally obligated to the care and responsibility for any offspring that would come as a result.

    The other reason Government wanted to make this distinction where marriages would have to qualify before getting a license, was to prohibit the amount of Americans that were marrying first cousins etc,. It also helped track population and census studies. Because this “situation” of polygamy and dead beat dads or orphaned children was such a burden on taxpayers when husbands of 3-5 wives could not afford all the children. So, the Government put a restriction on marriage by making it a legal contract between one man and one woman and made bigamy laws to prohibit people from conflicts of interest between one married couple and another having the same husband where pensions would have to be divided between more than one wife.

    This alleviated the courts from the huge piles of complicated law suits in Probate Court when offspring between to wives were suddenly shocked to find out they had to argue between half brothers and half sisters they had no idea about.

    So you see, hetero sexual couples made quite a mess before the idea of marriage came about especially broken marriages where it really helped the most because often times there were children involved. Marriage was never a mandate that those wanting to marry MUST have children, but was a safety precaution agreement in case they did.

    Same Sex Marriage intends to turn that on its head and I think it is terrible self centered, selfish and totally unnecessary for queers to impose their silly and asinine argument that THEY somehow deserve this or that WE should let them change legal definitions because of the many precedents it makes and ALL of them BAD for Families, futures, Pensions, and woman.

    State and federal empoyee pensions going to queers who have not been relegated to having to support families while asking for tax breaks under this category will cause State and Federal Pension plans that are already in the red, will be suddenly inundated with law suits asking for monies for gay survivors of these pension plans, actuarial calculations had never anticipated and they will go broke or the tax payer will end up having to pony up the additional monies all these queers simply do not deserve. This has already become a HUGE problem in states like Mass. So don’t think it won’t happen in all of them.

    This says nothing to the effect of queers suing religious institutions for refusing to marry them, something they will be able to do when same sex marriage becomes a federal law allowing it while Ministers and Pastors relent to Gods laws which condemn it. Don’t think it won’t happen because THAT is EXACTLY what queers do when they deliberatly test the tolerance of the public and Business society as a whole the same as atheist do with their petty law suits about Nativity scenes and religious symbols on public land. They are already suing Military Chaplains imposing what they have known all along would be anathema to any religious mindful individual and especially one who has made a career in his faith. To condone two homosexuals saying publically they will love ” gay speak euphemism for the “F” word ” honor, cherish and obey (dominance and submission sex fetish) till death do they part. Any pastor consenting to this is sentencing the two to hell by acknowleging their un-repentant sin till death and swearing an oath to that end. How does the beliving Christian, reconcile something like that?

    They can’t.

    Marriage isn’t about them, it wasn’t designed to incorporate them and it doesn’t apply to them. If Gays want to say to their lover, till death do they part, BY ALL MEANS they should have such a ceremony. If they want special fiduciary rights to a loved ones bank accounts after that loved one dies, by all means create a living WILL and Testament which are recognized and legal in all fifty states. If they want to say they are “Married” then by all means you have the right to free speech and no one can take that away.


    Mindless equality is the insistence that everybody be treated equally in disregard of valid reasons for different treatment. Examples include:

    Treating as equal old Caucasian ladies and young men of Islamic origin in screening at airports

    Treating as equal women and men in filling combat positions in the military

    Treating as equal all types of music, from Beethoven to vulgar rap performers

    Treating as equal literature and science from all cultures, no matter how primitive In Atlanta a female magazine editor has complained that ‘Men at Work’ signs are prejudiced in favor of males.

    Treating as equal, the rectum, being equal to the female vagina .

    Treating as equal the womb to a mans colon. That this foul smelling, feces filled, orifice, with its bacteria laden, disease prone environment, is as dignified a place for the male seed, as one that would bring fourth human life of offspring. That a turd, laced with some queers sperm should have the same respect as a fetus or human child. That this fruitless union, is no different than heterosexual couples where the love of children and family doesn’t count to them and is seen as buzz kill, rather than a love much more worthy of our making.

    NO ONE benefits in society from the queer sexual bent save for the two queers basking in their so called “special sexual Ori” and there is nothing in it for us or society so why should we allow it and open the legal floodgates of hell again giving many other kinds of sexual relationships the same “so called equal rights” when there is NOTHING that equals this unique kind of heterosexual coupling with its potential to create offspring. I know many who think Gay Marriage won’t impact them, are only saying that because they haven;t thought this through very well.

    But if we allow Gay Marriage, what happened in Roman times, especially to woman and in Greece, will happen here. History lessons learned can spare us from that eventuality but when they go unlearned or disregarded for selfish political reasons, we condemn ourselves to relive them and let me tell you Once people figure out what a mess this will cause,, Bigotry against gays won’t just be a word they use against anyone disagreeing with them.

    It will be justified as homosexuals are shoved so far back into oblivion’s closet, they will wish they never mentioned the words same sex marriage, much less STUPID enough for many to end up dead because of the resentment, anger and hatred they will deserve pushing it down our throats behind the guise of equal rights.

    Becoming one flesh is not about queers who can not merge their DNA equal to the way heterosexuals may.

    Nor is that type of couple equal to that of heterosexual couple with children. Even IF we allow gays to adopt, it would not be a good enough reason to change marriage laws defined the way they are just to benefit a few self serving queers and their sexual indulgence while the rest of society ends up with the same problems we had before marriage was defined under this legal construct and American tradition

  65. As much as they insist they don’t believe in God and only rely on science somehow they still feel the need for a church. Interesting. Why don’t they just call it a meeting hall or a community center?

  66. WHAT or WHO do they worship if not God? If they have speakers discussing all of the good things THEY do, then they are simply worshiping themselves.

    Atheists keep telling us that there is nothing, that God is a myth but are so empty and jealous because of their lack of faith that they have to start making things up to worship.

  67. lets see, an Atheist church to worship their denial of God and Christian churches. I smell a conspiracy. looks like that dirty old Satan has hi-jacked the Atheist. Atheist don’t believe in God or Satan, they have no need of a church.

  68. Why is it anyone’s concern what or how someone else displays their beliefs, as long as it causes no harm to them? People that want to blame Christians, Muslims, atheist, etc. for the ills of society are morons. I have friends of many different faiths, I am an atheist & do not believe in any of the major religions, but I do not demonize, nor find issue with their doctrine, unless they become obnoxious like so many on this thread. I treat all of my fellow human beings with respect & enjoy having conversations with the reasonable, intelligent one’s regarding their various beliefs. I was raised in a Christian home, attended church, Sunday school, choir, etc., but as I grew up realized that these things had nothing to do with how I feel & think. If your religious beliefs have you believing that you have the right & authority to criticize those that believe differently than you, then you are the problem & the cause for most of the worlds unpleasant issues & it is you that cause others to have a negative attitude toward those that believe like you. Shame on you for being so narrow minded & egotistical.

  69. You cannot prove by scientific means either the existence or nonexistence of God. Science has little to say on the subject. The entire existence of creation, plus billions of people who say they have personal evidence of God provides more “proof” than anything atheists can muster. Since it is actually more difficult to disprove the existence of God than to prove it, it actually takes a lot of “faith” (belief not based on evidence obvious to everyone) to be an atheist. In fact, atheism requires more blind faith than is required to be a Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc. So let them call it a religion, because it is. Besides, true Christianity is more about relationship than religion, anyway; it is about getting to know God. But you can’t possibly say there’s no God and know God.

    1. “Since it is actually more difficult to disprove the existence of God than to prove it, it actually takes a lot of “faith” (belief not based on evidence obvious to everyone) to be an atheist.”

      It’s actually more difficult to disprove the existence of the Easter bunny than to prove it. It actually takes a lot of “faith” to be a non-believer of Easter Bunny’s …

  70. The belief in God/s IS a BIZARRE DELUSION and Religion IS a PSYCHOSIS!!!!


    1. Never raped, robbed ,or murdered any one in my life. But I do have a peace that you;ll never know, even in the midst of the chaos in which we currently live. No psychosis though. And I don’t need to label you in some derogatory manner, although some labels would be highly appropriate. As for pedophiles, I was the victim, not the perpetrator. And you have been listening to the wrong sources for far too long, clearly, but are unable to formulate a thought of your own because of that, and I PITY you!

  71. obama is a secular humanist like is mother was. Download Humanist Manifesto 1&2 and you will see obama. They believe in sharing the wealth,abortion, euthanasia,( OBAMACARE), anything goes sexually,No God,no Heaven,no Prayer.,a Socialist one world order, etc etc.
    The Humanist are using our schoolhouses, colleges, AND universities for church.

    1. Nope, his Mom and grandparents were die-hard Marxist Communists, and O got Islam on top of and around that as well! BTW, Communism is a religion, in which the state is the deity.

  72. The idea of hating God, and not knowing who, or God is blinding hate toward anyone that loves God. Or believes in him. Many believe, but don’t love Jesus. I dislike the fact that people call me Religionist. Because bring a Christian is not a religion. It is a personal relationship with God by way of Jesus. He is our Father, friend, doctor, protector, and later our Judge. There new Church is just fun, and jokes about God of poor taste. Once they get the ball rolling it will be another hate group attacking the Christian Freedom, and rights. The word church means= assembly, or a group of people. The church is just a building it what’s inside that counts. Just like a coffe cup: you wash the outside, but inside stays dirty. In a Christian if we repent. We come out clean from the inside. Without God you go to a group meeting, and come out just as dirty.
    “Thy shall not use the Name of God in Vain” They worship Idols: People can be idols also, and made little God of them. Too bad so many churches made a Religion of it. They honor God with their Lips, but there heart is far from God……It is easyer to find Gold than a good full gospel Church. This is way so many people do not believe any longer in the living loving God, and Jesuschrist.

  73. …………….. Once again a no name no body props up the non-extant alleged gods of religions to insult and degrade Atheists and their Atheism.

    …………….. Tad Cronn is more than a tad off. Our Atheism is not burning anyone forever in any alleged hell. Nor do Atheists bribe anyone with some boring ass alleged heaven.

    …………….. And I wager zero Atheists name their dog Dog. The cheek and bigotry to claim the alleged xian god is the only god rankles more than Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, Shintos & Muslims by the billions.
    …………….. To be fair, I have not “ordained” myself in any of the “churches” run by Atheists in the past two centuries. I do attend Unitarian Universalist congregations, fellowships, societies and “churches.” Like many millions of other Atheists, Agnostics, Humanists, Eupraxophists, Objectivists, Secularists, Realists, Flying Spaghetti Monsters, Brights and Freethinkers to mention affinity groupings of Freethinkers, we like to sing.
    ……………… We want our children to feel companionship of other children studying ALL religions. My Unitarian Universalist comrades prefer to define the word religion meaning to “re-connect.” Liberal religions liberate from the evils of faith. Diversity is their creed.
    ……………… Marriages are not static monolithic pairings of Atheists or Catholics or Jews or Buddhists or Mohammedans in America or Great Britain or New Zealand or South Africa or Australia or Hungary. Marriages are people who love each other despite frequent conflicting loyalties to many mixed faith traditions OR Atheism.
    ……………… IN SHORT, North Texas Church of Freethought or this London “church” are places for dozens if not hundreds of Atheists with their families of believers of any stripe to sing, teach their children tolerance and embrace everyone in traditions of poetry, elocution, political discourse, philosophical musings, humor, compassionate caring & joyful dance ALL SANS superstitions.
    ……………… Our Atheism is no more a faith than baldness is a hairstyle.
    ……………… Those Atheists who employ words like doctrine or belief do so providing stepping stones for Freethinkers to rid themselves of 5 thousand years of fake calendars, crusade lies, pogrom violence & theocratic war crimes.
    ……………… It is time for the “reporters” and “journalists” to respect Atheists.
    ……………… Perhaps Tad Cronn might look up the Nazi Pimp Pope’s book by Joe Ratzinger, alias BENEdick WHO ADMITS there his calendar is at least 4 years back dated too early before the death of real King Herod to invent continuity with real history reflected back upon the alleged birth of an alleged vaginal virgin alleged baby god.
    ……………… When main stream “media” finally gets it that there are many gods alleged, too much violence, pedophile priestly rape, 6 million women dying each year denied life saving abortions or deadly disease preventing condoms, honor killings, circumcisions & teen suicides too much of all that WHICH Atheists do everything to prevent, then this ridiculous notion that Atheism is anything like all religions will be flushed into the ediotrs toilets of censorship.
    ………………. [email protected] @LarryAccomplish 843-926-1750

    1. its time for atheist to get real!! atheist-belief that no god exist yet they cry out to who in times of crises? i never want to hear some queer say omg!! again!!

  74. Um, they DO believe in something. It’s called Satan. And whether they realize it or not (and many do, they hide behind the politically correct label of “atheism” instead) they’re worshiping him. These people WILL rise up against Christianity even more than they are now in order to try to stomp us out. But…the Book has been written, the last chapter read! Wanna guess who wins in the end?!?

  75. This is bull hockey. These people want to claim church status so they can be tax exempt like all other “real” churches. Then they can claim they are a free-thinking ‘religion’ and indoctrinate those who are so sorely misguided.

  76. Jesus! Where the hell is the discussion about atheist, an atheist “church”, and the rest of this ridiculous article? Atheism is not a “non-belief”? The word itself suggests otherwise, to wit: “Theism” is the belief in god. Put an “A” in front of it to denote the opposite. E.g., amoral = not-moral; asymmetry = not-symetrical; atheist = not a belief in god = non-belief!
    One cannot change the meaning of a word at one’s whim. Either find another word which does accurately describe what one wishes to say or coin a new word which which to say it. But don’t steal a perfectly good word and try to ascribe your own special (and contradictory) meaning to it.
    As George Carlin once remarked: Words are wonderful things. They can be used to express our thoughts . . . or to hide our thoughts . . . or to replace thinking.

  77. As nutty as this is it will help religion in the US. By establishing a formal “church” and planning services, the atheist’s have now solidified the fact that atheism is a religion and the US government is guilty of enforcing a national religion. Remember the First Amendment states ..”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” and this is the crux of the case. Atheists complain to the government that the sight or presence of prayer or symbols related to religion is offensive and unconstitutional because by allowing them in public places the government is mandating religion. Now they have given the Christians a gift, if you will, because this idiotic idea has now given us ammunition for a reverse discrimination argument. The government, by forcing us to restrict our faith from public is now, in fact, “establishing” a new national religion and that national religion is atheism. I know that the leftist idiots in this country will never admit this but I hope soon someone somewhere will sue the government charging them with violating the 2nd Amendment and may the courts be smart enough to understand that the government has over-stepped its limitations and that the Christians in this country have the right to express their faith without having to worry about being hauled into court.

  78. God says The Atheist is a Fool.
    The Wisdom in God’s Word states that it is Folly for a person who Answers a Matter
    Before he has heard ALL Facts of the Matter. (Proverbs 18:13) In short, God says he is a Fool. Any Wise Lawyer Would Not Risk his Reputation in court (as a Fool) by Not Invest-igating All of the Facts in a Legal Matter. He would want to be Prepared for Uncertain Rulings that would depend on the court’s acceptance or rejection of the evidence presented.
    The Bible teaches that the man who Cannot Reason is a Fool; the man who Refuses to Reason is a Bigot; the man who is Afraid to Reason is a Slave. The Fool wishes he could
    Reason, but cannot, he has No Moral Compass; the Bigot is able to Reason, but Refuses
    to Accept Correction, he is Prideful, (don’t confuse me with facts, my mind is made up); the Slave is able to Reason, but he is Fearful of what people will say about him, (don’t make waves, let’s go along to get along, Strive for Majority’s acceptance). But the Willing Man has every good opportunity available by his Ability and Willingness to Reason.
    The God of the Bible is a God of “Reason.” God’s Word says, “Come now, let us Reason together, says the Lord, though your sins be as Scarlet, they shall be as White as Snow; though they be Red like Crimson, they shall be as Wool. If you are (key words) Willing and
    Obedient, you shall eat the good of the land. But if you refuse and rebel, you shall be devoured with the sword; for the mouth of the Lord has spoken it.” (Isaiah 1:18-20) God speaks to the Fools when He says “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.”
    (Hosea 4:6)
    “The Fool has said in his heart, ‘There is No God.” (Psa 14:1;53:1) “For the preaching of the Cross is to them that perish Foolishness; But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks Foolishness.” (1Corinthians 1:18, 23) The Psychiatry Profession claims that man is a Two-part being; he has an Intellect and a Body, and that the Goodness of man lays within his Inner most being. God’s Word says this is Not correct; there is No Goodness in man in his fallen state. (Romans 3:10, 23); “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, Not one. For ALL have Sinned and come Short of the Glory of God.”
    In Genesis.1:26,27, God says, “Let us make man in OUR image, in OUR likeness,” that is a Three-Part being in the Likeness of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy
    Spirit. The spirit of man is the most important part of his triune creation. The spirit of man was created in the express image of God and is Indestructible and will Live Forever in Eternity. God created Adam and Eve in His Glory and they were spiritually joined to God and they were exceedingly blessed with His Grace in all things. But when Adam and Eve rebelled against God’s instructions, their spiritual union was severed and their fellowship with God was destroyed. Because of Adam’s fall, man received as a consequence for his disobedience, a sin nature. This sin nature, referred to as “Original Sin,” is an innate propensity to commit evil. God is an All-Consuming Fire and He knows that sinful man cannot stand in His presence without being destroyed. So God sent Jesus the Savior of mankind so that sinful man could be forgiven and reconciled to God, whereby enabling man to stand before a Holy God in Right standing with Him and without being destroyed by His All-Consuming Fire.

    In the Course of 4,000 years, God Sent His Son Jesus, to save Fallen Man by becoming a Propitiation and Sacrifice for man’s sin, and thereby Reconciling man back to God. God is Loving, Merciful, Forgiving, and Just. The greatest Promise in the Bible is John 3:16,17; “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should Not Perish, but have Everlasting Life. For God sent Not His Son into the world to Condemn the world; but that the world Through Him might be saved.” The greatest tragedy is John 3:18; “But he that believeth Not is condemned already, (the Atheist, Agnostic) because he has not believed in the name of the Only Begotten Son of God.” God in His love, mercy, forgiveness, and grace, satisfied his Justice and hatred for man’s sin by providing a way for man to be reconciled to God, by placing the entire sins of the world, past, present, and future, upon Jesus, the Lamb of God Who is without sin and Who takes away the sin of the world.

    God Takes No Pleasure in the Death of the Wicked. Ezekiel 33:11 says, “As I live says the Lord God, I have No Pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and LIVE: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?” The problem with man’s sin nature is quite simple. Man Cannot save Himself from his destructive sin nature, therefore God provided a Savior to deliver him from his evil ways.The Bible way to heaven is achieved by a simple Confession and an act of faith found in Romans 10: 9-13; that says, ”If you Confess with your Mouth the Lord Jesus and
    Believe in your Heart that God raised Him from the dead, you Will be Saved. For with the Heart one Believes unto Righteousness, and with the Mouth Confession is made unto Salvation. For the scripture says “Whoever Believes on Him will Not be put to Shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over All is rich to All who call upon Him. For whoever calls upon the Lord (Jesus) Shall be Saved.” When a believer Confesses this prayer, he is making a proclamation of Identification. He is vicariously in agreement and personally Identifies with the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus who took his sins to the cross and was raised from the dead in hell for the forgive-ness of all his sins, enabling him to spend eternity with the Father in Heaven.

    The Atheist and Agnostic says God does not exist, yet They Have Not Searched for Him. The man who does Not Search for God will Generally Never find Him, but the man who Steadfastly Searches for God Will Always Find Him. God invites men to Search for Him, and He promises to Reveal Himself to ALL who Seek to Know Him. Jeremiah 33:3 says, “Call unto Me, and I Will Answer You and Show you Great and Mighty things which you do not know. ”Jeremiah 29: 11-14 says, ”For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of Peace and Not of evil, to give you a Future and a Hope. Then you will Call upon Me and go and Pray to Me, and I will listen to you. And you will Seek Me and Find Me, when you Search for Me with ALL Your Heart. I will be Found by You says the Lord, and I Will bring You back from Your Captivity;”

    The Atheist and Agnostic are Without Excuse. God has Given sinful man a Plan of Redemption and Eternal Salvation. God has Given us His son Jesus; He has Given us His Holy Word, the Bible; He has Given us His Holy Spirit. All man has to do is Choose the path he wants to take for his eternal destiny. God does not Send sinful man to hell and damnation. God has given man a Free Will to Choose his eternal destiny. Sinful man Sends Himself to hell and damnation by default, because he has Not Believed on the Name of Jesus, the Only Begotten Son of God. Man has to make this Choice while he is Yet Alive, for he Cannot Choose after he expires the First physical death.

    Do All Religions Lead to God? The answer is NO!
    Many say that All religions will lead to God, but this is Not true. All religious leaders such as Mohammed, Budda,etc, Do Not have Records of their Birth, Death, and Did Not Prophesy their Resurrection. Jesus has 3 Geneologies Listed in the Old and New Testaments showing a Lineage from Adam and Eve to Joseph and Mary. Jesus had many Prophesies of His birth, ministry, suffering, crucifixion, death, and resurrection that preceded his life on earth by 1500 years. Jesus verily prophesied that after He was Crucified, He would be Raised up on the 3rd day and It came to pass. There were 40 Old Testament prophesies fulfilled on the day He died on the cross. Jesus’ life and death on the cross was a Sinless Sacrifice and Propitiation for the sins of ALL mankind, past, present, and future. The mathematical possibility of All 40 prophesies coming to pass on Jesus’ death were near impossible yet miraculously they ALL Had Come To Pass.

    Bible scholars say that Jesus is a Hypostatic Union of Humanity and Divinity. He is 100% Man and 100% God and one drop of His Precious Blood was enough to Redeem All of mankind’s sins, past, present, and future. The Holy Scriptures say the Way is Wide but the Door is Narrow. Jesus is the Door to Eternal Life with Father God. “Jesus said unto them, I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: No man Comes unto the Father, But by Me.” (John 14:6 NKJV) This is Not to say that He is (A) Way, (A) Truth, and (A) Life, meaning there are Other Ways! NO,NO, Never! Jesus is the (Only) Way, the (Only) Truth, and the (Only) Life. His Righteousness is given to ALL who Invite Him into their Hearts, and Confess Him as Lord and Savior of their Life. Jesus Forgiveness and Justification of sin Allows the believer to come Boldly before God’s Throne to stand Faultless and Blameless in a time of Need, before Father God. “Let us therefore come Boldly unto the Throne of Grace, that we may Obtain Mercy, and Find Grace to help in time of Need.” ~ (Hebrews 4:16 KJV )
    The Great White Throne Judgment.
    Revelation 20:13-15 says, “Then I saw a Great White Throne and Him who Sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and Books were opened. And another Book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the Lake of Fire. This is the Second Death. And anyone Not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the Lake of Fire. The Second Death is Not Cessation of Physical Life, but it is the Eternal Separation of Life from Jesus, the eternal source of life. God’s Word is His
    Will, and God’s Will is His Word. The Consciousness that we have in this mortal life is Immortal and Will Live for eternity; to be Vividly Aware of eternal glory with God or Vividly aware of eternal hell and damnation.

    Only a FOOL Would Choose Eternal Hell over the Simple Choice of Eternal Glory with God. John 14:6 says, Jesus said to him, “ I am The (only) Way, The (only) Truth, and The (only) Life. No one comes to the Father Except through Me.” The Word of God is Divine Truth; inspired by His Holy Spirit; it is self-evident truth, and it is beyond debate. The Bible
    was written and canonized over a period of approximately 1700 years by 40 different authors, Who Were All Inspired By the Holy Spirit of God. The Bible is ALL about Jesus and He is the Main Character in every book and All of the books are in harmony with Jesus as the Central Theme of Man’s Salvation. There is Not One book that contradicts Any of the other books. All the Books are in Harmony with Christ.

    Jesus is the Word of God. In the King James Bible there are 66 books, 1189 chapters, 31,102 verses, 773,746 words, and 3,566,480 letters. Now imagine taking All these Books, Chapters, Verses, Words, and Letters, and wrapping them all over every square inch of Jesus’ body and then covering Him with Flesh. The apostle John constantly refers to Jesus as the Word of God in his Gospel and in his book of Revelation. (John 1:1,14; Revelation 19:13,16) “And He [Jesus] was clothed with a Vesture dipped in Blood: and His Name is Called the Word of God. And He [Jesus] has on His Vesture and on His Thigh a name written, King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Jesus is the Word of God Who became flesh and dwelt among us. (John 1:14) Believers are the flesh Who Become the Word as they Study and Meditate on the Holy Scriptures.

    “You are Our Epistle Written in our Hearts, Known and Read by ALL men; clearly you are an Epistle of Christ, Ministered by us, Written Not with INK but by the Spirit of the Living God, Not on Tablets of Stone but on Tablets of Flesh, that is, of the Heart.” ~(2Corinthians 3:2,3) And you Shall know the Truth and the Truth Shall Make you Free.” ~ (John 8:32)

    Dr. Lewis S. Chafer, Dallas Theological Seminary founder, sums up the Bible in 5 topical
    words in his Christian Theology. Christ is the Central Theme of Scripture, and as bearing on His Person, the Bible books are classified as:
    1.) Old Testament as the “Preparation” for the Coming Christ;
    2.) Four Gospels as the “Manifestation” of Christ (Jesus’ Ministry);
    3.) Book of Acts as the “Propagation” of Christ’s Spirit (His Church Growth);
    4.) Epistles are “Explanation” of the Preparation, Manifestation, and Propagation of Christ;
    5.) The Book of Revelation as the “Consummation” of Christ and His Church.
    The Glorious Consummation of the Creator God with His Redeemed Creation; the Church, the Bride of Christ shall Behold (see) Him and Become One With Him and Eternally Joined With the Father. (1John 3:2)

    Logic Dictates if the Premise is True, the Conclusion is True Also. The Word of God has a Truthful premise and ends with a Truthful conclusion. Atheist, your name will be found in
    the Book of Life IF you Invite Jesus into your Heart and Confess with your Mouth and Believe in your Heart that Jesus is your Lord and Savior of your Life. God declares in His Word, the Bible way to heaven is; Choose Jesus as your Savior. God’s Word is His Will; and His Will is His Word. “That if you confess with your Mouth the Lord Jesus and Believe in your Heart that God has Raised Him from the Dead, you Will be Saved. For with the Heart one Believes unto Righteousness,& with the Mouth Confession is made unto Salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever Believes on Him Will Not be put to Shame. For there is no Distinction between Jew and Greek, for the Same Lord Over ALL is Rich to ALL Who Call upon Him. For “Whoever calls on the name of the Lord Shall Be Saved.” (Romans 10:9-13 NKJV)

    Atheist, May God Grant you the Wisdom to Choose between Heaven and hell; Non-Smoking or Smoking. Amen!
    The Bible is all about Jesus. Martin Luther called John 3:16 “The Heart of the Bible, the Gospel in Miniature.” It’s so simple a Child can Understand IT; Yet IT Condenses the Deep and Marvelous Truths of Redemption into these few Powerful Words of Absolute Assurance: The following verse, John 3;16 from the King James Bible, is the Greatest Promise to Man for Eternal Life from God, the Creator of All Mankind.
    “God” ~ The Greatest Lover.
    “So Loved” ~ The Greatest Degree.
    “The World” ~ The Greatest Number.
    “That He Gave” ~ The Greatest Act.
    “His Only Begotten Son” ~ The Greatest Gift.
    “That Whosoever” ~ The Greatest Invitation.
    “Believeth” ~ The Greatest Simplicity.
    “In Him” ~ The Greatest Person.
    “Should Not Perish” ~ The Greatest Deliverance.
    “But” ~ The Greatest Difference.
    “Have” ~ The Greatest Certainty.
    “Everlasting Life ~ The Greatest Possession.

  79. So know that they have a “church” they have to now abide by the same rules as Christians. They cannot speak about atheism in a public place. That would be a violation of Church and State.

  80. Wow. Really? It’s an Atheist Church. Founded by comedians. It’s a joke poking fun at religion. This is the point that never seems to get across to people like you. The Atheists aren’t mad at you, and they aren’t trying to destroy. They are simply laughing at you, and the more serious you take the joke being pointed at organized religion, the funnier it is.

  81. more then a contradiction in terms, this is an overt attempt to take advantage of the laws that protect religions from governmental interferance. Atheism is the belief system that denies the existance of a ‘god’ or a superior guiding intelligence. It has no belief beyond that. It does have an all consuming hatred for those of us who chose to believe in god, based on innumerable reasons. Our faith, our belief structure, our written and oral traditions offend thses self proclaimed atheists for some reason. I propose that faith, belief in God, an understanding of clearly delineated morals, and an adherance to them is the objective of the overwheening hatred directed towards Christians in particular. The ‘Do it if it feels good ‘ movement has been in ascendance since the early 1960’s amongs amoral and degenerate people. The creeping rejection of moral judgements have been more and more at the forefront of the ideations of the liberal left. For me, Theft, abuse, neglect, sodomy,multiple sexual partners are all of an ilk. They ignore rules that mankind has attempted to follow for thousands of years. Todays left leaning iconoclasts are profoundly unable to admit each of us as humans have limits beyound which we go at our peril. Denying morality is the coup de gras to civilization. But the left has always assumned they know whats best for mankind, even though they have proven to be consistant failures in the game of life.

  82. Sending this every where. It should start some fine arguments, as I’ve already accused atheists of being a religious cult. he he he 😉

  83. After some deliberation I chose not to be Christian. I wasn’t sure about becoming an atheist until some organized atheists attacked Christianity in various ways. Because of that I also choose not to be affiliated with a gaggle of atheists who feel they must justify their beliefs or non belief. I don’t personally subscribe to any religion but I also don’t care to discourage others from believing as they see fit. It makes no difference whether i approve of their decision to believe or not.

    If you activist atheists want to attack a pack of believers why not attack Islam? Expose a barbaric religion that is not tolerant of anything not Muslim, encourages murder, stoning, subjugation of women, and genital mutilation. Now exposing Islam for what it is would be something i could support.

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