Massive Revenue Loss Follows California Tax Hike Vote

During the recent election, Gov. Jerry Brown and supporters of Prop. 30 assured voters that there was no chance whatsoever that raising taxes again would drive away any of the state’s businesses or millionaires.

Brown even commissioned a study from the Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality that found millionaires would rather stay put than let a little thing like government thievery drive them away.

The media backed that up with stories assuring readers that California could choke the rich, no problem.

State Controller John Chiang announced Friday afternoon (the traditional time for not getting stories covered) that the state’s revenue for November came in $806.8 million under projections. That’s more than 10% under budget for the month.


Although Chiang’s office did not comment on the whole “rich flight” issue, the breakdown of the trouble is an $842.5 million plunge in personal income taxes, $187.8 million decrease in corporate taxes, offset by an increase of $99 million in sales taxes. The sales tax rise probably has a lot to do with increasing consumer costs in the not-so-Golden State, although it wouldn’t be surprising if some of it was from happy liberals going on a binge after the election.

Will reality finally soak in to the spending-addicted brains of liberal voters and politicians? Not likely. Liberals’ dogma dies hard.

More likely what will happen is that Sacramento will go through another round of trying to raise taxes; then threatening to fire teachers, cops and firefighters if voters don’t go along; then putting another tax hike on the next available ballot. When that doesn’t work, even the mighty unions probably won’t be able to stop job losses. Meanwhile, revenues will continue to plunge, unemployment begin rising again, politicians still won’t cut the real fat and voters still will be voting Democrat.

Things can get a whole lot worse still before they get better.

With any luck though, California may have reached the tipping point at which even the liberal millionaires who infest the state will begin to leave. All the unemployed workers they leave behind would then have the choice of waking up and finally booting out the leeches from Sacramento or following their former employers out of state.

Either way, California would be likely to wind up a much poorer, though ultimately better off, state. One can only hope as California continues its slow slide into the sea.

420 thoughts on “Massive Revenue Loss Follows California Tax Hike Vote

  1. Ah yes…..California….have been reseating the same liberal hags such as Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein; Waters and many other total idiots for years. There is no cure for stupid. The sooner California becomes a no-man’s-land the sooner the 9th circuit and Berkley will disappear.

      1. I live on the west coat you moron. get your facts correct or shut up. I am not a liberal. you make statements like a liberal…;.;

        1. THE point is , twit, that you live in a state run by a bunch of communists, and you’re so dang STUPID, you keep doing everything over and over again. What your two choices SHOULD BE:
          I. vote out all liberal ass holes from your state government, …. or, ….
          2. Get the hell out and move to a free state, like Texas, leaving virtually NO ONE left in the state to pay taxes. With all the taxpayers (real working people) gone, the only thing left will be Mesicans, blacks and welfare receivers. Wait, that last sentence was redundant! Mesicans and blacks ARE the welfare people!

        2. Then get out before you slide in with the liberals.The only fact I stated was, how I feel about the Left Coast. What other “facts” are you wanting corrected?

        3. You are funny guys. Anybody remember the good old radio station KBBQ in the Valley. Those were the days my friends. How lucky I was to see California in the good days. God bless America

    1. Show’s how smart Calif. people are,They voted Jerry Brown back in after years ago he sent them to the drain then? Yes, Then keep putting the Brain Dead Women they have in Washington back in !! They don’t care(the women) as they have made , along with their husbands, all their MILLION’s off them !!

      1. Pelosi made millions in 2010 by insider trading. Martha Stewart went to prison for doing the very same thing. I guess the gave themselves that privilege huh?

      2. I live in CA and don’t like the choices that the Republican-light party has been offering. They think that the alternative to the communists is socialist light or milquetoast dribble (sic).

    2. Jag, having been, (PAST TENSE) a Californian I can agree whole heartedly on the HAGS/SCAGS/BLOOD SUCKING LEACHES … Pelosi, Waters, Boxer, Feinstein. They all play to the ‘weirdos’ in San Francisco and Sacramento, and don’t forget the illegals. California USED to be a great state to live in, had all the best places to go, the best of industry, etc. NOW…… it’s been sucked dry. Unfortunately, we still have family living there. We GOTTA get rid of these racist, bloodsucking, liberal, socialists. You know whats funny is the minorities are TOO STUPID to read the history books to learn IT WAS THE REPUBLICANS THAT FREED THE SLAVES; IT WAS THE DEMOCRATS THAT WERE FIGHTING TO KEEP SLAVES…….AND SO FAR, they are doing a bang up job of returning the minorities to slavery…. to welfare.

      1. the probably cant read. you would be surprised at the number of people that can not read. its really sad. you can bet they were told how to vote for obama.

        1. Why should anyone be surprised?

          Even if they can read, government-run, tax-funded welfare schools (imported from Prussia in 1852) are designed to make it impossible for their inmates to think, at least not to think about anything the state has not programmed into them.

          Schools are places, like churches, where people learn to use their minds. When the state controlled the church, we wisely excommunicated it. Now they control the schools, it’s time (and long past time) to expel it.

          Mr. O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

        2. As did we (in California, lo! these many years).

          More importantly, each of our seven children (fourteen when we count the in-laws — and we always do) is family-center educating our thirty grandchildren. (I don’t use the term “home school” because it’s misleading. Family-Centered Education [F-CEd] is more accurate.)

          Not quite all, because two of them are not yet adopted, and, by law, they must attend the state’s youth indoctrination center, aka government-run, tax-funded welfare school, aka children’s day-prison.

          Mr. O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

        3. Sounds like you did and are doing a really good job. I’m sure your grandchildren will definitely benefit with a fine education. It will be great when the last two children can be “set free” from the public indoctrination system.

        4. The first of several hearings regarding their parents’ “rights” is tomorrow. We’re praying the judge will recognize that a drug-dealing father and a felon mother will not be as good a family for the two as our son and daughter-in-law. If you’d join us, I would appreciate it.

          These two little ones deserve better. They’ve been shuffled around for over a year, and for their three older sisters (whom M’nR would take, as well, but the law says their house is too small) have done the “endless switch” for nearly two years.

          Mr. O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

        5. There was no significant progress at the hearing. However, there was no downside, and that is encouraging.

          Their “mother” turned up unable to take the drug test because she had “tripped over the dog” and hurt her wrist, so she was on pain killers. And, that time when she was drunk, it was only because her neighbor had brought over some eggnog for Thanksgiving, and she had not seen her children that day. Poor girl.

          The judge delayed the next hearing until 28 Feb so the “father” would have more time to “get his act together” according to the previous schedule. However, the judge had offered a non-contest hearing (to remove parental rights) on the 28th, or a contested hearing on the 12th of March. That was a bit confusing, but we remain hopeful. If you would continue your prayers and support, we would greatly appreciate it.

          Mr’ O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

        6. Then so be it. I have a lot of other things (reading my posts for one) that would wind me up there too. I made my mind up long before this last so-called election just where I stood. I love studying history, and I for one, will not remain silent with all the crap going on.

          Remember the “Ant and the Grasshopper?” The “Grasshoppers” are “it’s not my fault Obama’s” useful idiots. The “Ants” will be the survivors. We may go through some rough times; however, well will prevail.

          ANT – an acronym – “Americans Nullifying Tyranny.”

        7. Only his, the czars, Dem politicians – the rest of us will be on welfare – oh, but then they won’t have enough tax money to pay us – so, if he doesn’t kill us with OWEbamaTAX-just because you have coverage doesn’t mean you’ll receive the medical care you need; you know, the pesky IPAB, he’ll starve us to death because of no way to pay for our welfare. But the Dems are so smart; they think they know it all. Too bad they don’t know how to create the jobs you asked about, LeSellers.

        8. A real problem is that the do know how. They prefer USmerica to be out of work because it furthers their agenda.

          There is something about “do-gooders” that eats at their souls; they cannot stand to let things play out — the must interfere, even especially when doing nothing is the best choice. I believe it’s their sense of superiority and busy-body natures. They really do not believe that most of us are capable of making “good” choices. they really believe that if we disagree with them, we are morally and mentally subhuman.

          As for O’bamaDon’tCare*, it is not, nor has it ever been about health care. It’s not even about health insurance (the two are not the same thing, not by miles), it’s all about control and power.
          * Herman Cains’s accurate name for it.

          Mr. O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

        9. luci, I worked the polls in 2008 – personal experience: a young minority came in for his ballot, gave it to him. He asked where was OWEbama’s name, showed him (should have pointed out McCain’s name), he marked it, placed his ballot in the scanner and walked out. I never worked the polls again. Am completely disgusted with the uneducated electorate and wholeheartedly blame our miserable education system because of the unions.

          We have some fabulous teachers who are controlled by the unions, “discouraged” from going beyond just the basic job – heaven forbid they excel and show how great their kids can do because it makes the rest of the poor teachers look bad. The good teachers are bullied into submission, all the while district office “teaches” students not to bully. That is an insider’s take on the classroom – had been in education for 28 years – left when the unions were given an office in the administration building right in the middle of the Human Resources Dept. Oh, and we the tax payers footed the bill for that including the electricity, the phones, computers, etc. No thank you!

        10. Worked polls this past election. Drunk accused me of giving him wrong ballot. He told me bombas name was not on the ballot. Many could not read but brought marked sample ballots and copied what was marked for them. Needless to say everyone of those ballots were marked for Obama. How do I know that, because the voters were stupid enough to tell me someone filled out the sample ballot for them. Multiply this by thousands of precincts throughout the states of Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin and you change the outcome which is,give the Dems credit, what they did.. Furthermore some could not write.

      2. I left University City – San Diego, CA in June 1980 – best move ever after selling my house for a (originally no money down VA loan) $100K untaxed capital gain..

        Made a ton on my house of 25 years in Dallas.

        Did make $86 K here in 26 months on a similar house sale.

        1. No, I believe it is “I did it and you CAN do it too.”

          My little sister & her family live in California. I tried to get them to move; however, they like where they are at. I respect her decision, even though I believe she will regret it. It is her choice to stay. She has to deal with what is going on there. I do not, until the Feds use my tax money to “bail them out.” Then, I will have to deal with it.

      3. Yes, and the people in the southern states were still mostly Democrats right through the first half of the 60s. You know, the KKK, the corrupt enforcers of Jim Crow laws, etc. Then MLK put a kink in everything, and black people started realizing they had power. So, what I don’t understand is, why did those folks join the Democratic Party – the same party that held them down for the 100 or so years after the Civil War ended?

        Jackie Robinson was a die-hard Republican. ‘Nuff said.

        1. But the southern states are not Democrat NOW. The 60s were 50 years ago and the slave days have long been abolished. Most southern states are Republican, right-to-work, and thriving.

        2. Johnson’s Great Society turned blue collar Republican blacks into welfare Dems…Simple as that. Dems have been reinforcing that “hate whitey and get even” scheme ever since. Lots of whiteys have joined in too but they are college profs and other wannabe elitists. Great scheme and it is working.

        3. The sad part about Johnson is: He referred to them as Nig—-. He along with many powerful people have just covered there disdain because they want the votes and the people buy it. Lydon Johnson took the “S/S” money and put it into the general fund with IOU’s. Never put any of it back. Jimmy Carter took over the public schools and gave it to the government. And we all see how that has worked out. Now Jimmy Carter says, if we don’t like “O” we are racist. My, my Mr. Southern man – bet your more a racist than we are. Same goes for Johnson but he is not around anymore. We need to government out of the public schools and go back to basics.. The government has totally dummed down the school of learning.

        4. I don’t care what I get called, as long as, it is not late for dinner. My wife and I solved the “education” problem since we home school our children.

        5. Phillip, keep aware of the union moves – they are working diligently to outlaw home schooling by making it come under their mantle and dictate what parents must teach, must not teach, as well as who may teach your own kids. So, please keep your eye on the ball, gather your parents and be prepared to fight. They are insidious.

        6. I do. I joined the Texas Home School Coalition. They keep us up to date one all the things going on. They also fight anything that interferes or otherwise infringes on our rights to educate our children.

        7. So was MLK a republican. He must have known what party was and is the KKK. We have to many socialists in Washington now and each state that has them must get them out of POWER. How to rid ourselves of the Hollywood Liberals , stop going to the movies they in. They will live high on what we decide to do. Stop watching those reality shows and making those people richer. There are so many better things to do than keep making the rich/richer. Hollywood came out in support of OWS – why wasnt OWS angry at the amount of money Hollywood has. Did they share it with OWS people. Bet NOT..

        8. Patriot, nice to meet you – we have the same handle – anyhow, MLK’s niece Aleda King is a CONSERVATIVE, PRO LIFE Repub and I believe she said he was a Repub. She is a wonderful person to hear speak. May God bless her and her efforts for life for all from conception to natural death.

      4. Carole, great summation. My thoughts exactly. California is a dead man walking. Ca. couldnt even vote in new blood thats how afraid Ca. govt. is of taking away their tax and spend life style. jerry “Moon Beam” brown doesnt know anything else to do except raise taxes because thats the demcratic state of mind. I loved California when I got there in 79, beautiful state. In 08 I bought a house off the internet from my station in Afghanistan and moved to Ohio. Now Im left with a house and a mechanics shop doing nothing for the past 5 years. Cant sell it without a loss, and dont want to be a land lord to drug manufacturers. Illegals, or welfare scum that once they are in you cant get them out. The house destruction the state wont pay for, even thought its their people. Or the clean up from their meth labs. California is a waste land with no recourse. Illegals have been sucking the Citizens of this state dry for years and now hollywood has exactly what the demanded.

        My advice is to all of you is to get out now. Carole woke up and so did I. Shut down the businesses and get out. Farmers with the financial backing through their co-ops grow only what pays the bills. pelosi, boxer and fienstien shut the water off to these industries and they suffered greatly if not folded. Their plan was to bleed the farmers dry of revenue. The water was the method, so if your not paying us the money we want then, we’re gonna make it so you wont stay. Great plan it also took out support businesses as well. California has already asked for govt bailouts due to their socialism, just like detroit whats left is gangs, illegals, and criminals, just like chicago, anywhere the demcrats have put their roots failure followed. When I get out of Afghanistan Ill make disposition of my property, either its sells at a respectable price to one of the hoards of freeloaders or Ill run through the place with a 9.00 gallon of obama gas and a match.
        Mike in Afghanistan

        1. I don’t know if gas will be that cheap when you get back. Other flammable items may have to be used. ; ) Stay safe!

        2. mwl, please be safe – prayers are with you. Thank you for protecting us. You sound as disgusted as the rest of us in the USA who supported the opposition.

        3. Mike, God’s speed home! I definately understand what your saying, heck, I’m living that nightmare here in cali. We came to Calif in 1967. WOW was this a wonderful place back then. There was still all kinds of undeveloped areas. Housing was at a decent price. Taxes were decent. My father started a successful business. We were living the American dream!!!
          (Fast forward) My fathers company is gone, My folks have moved to another state. My girls who I put through private school (at great personal expense to my wife and I) and STILL paid the taxes for illegals, illiterates, sick, lame and lazy to sponge off society.
          In the last 10 years we have had an influx of over 11 million people. Out of those 11m people, only 150k-170k pay taxes. The rest collect welfare, social security, medicaid, food stamps and ANYTHING else that is free to them. While the upper class (the ones who already pay 37% or more of the taxes) are fleeing the state.
          Our economy just lost 8 billion (in only 8 days) due to the union going on strike at the ports in Long Beach. We can never recver from all of this. The state will eventually go broke and file for bankruptcy. All the while, the gov’t and union workers will continnue to get healthy raises and life time benefits and retirement on the backs of the tax payers. What a corrupt bunch of thieves, liars and well, politicians. Basically, somone left the lunatics incharge of the asylum and theyare running amuck! If you talk to the normal blue collar worker (non union) they didn’t vote for Owebama. Our electorates did! Electorates in the past were a good thing. In todays modern society with technology, there is no use for it.
          Remove the electorates and you’ll get the American voter back, And maybe our country too!

        4. Thank you for your response. It is a saddening experience to say the least. Your father is one of the great Americans paving the way for the next generation. You. Those values he taught are the foundation of your childrens life through you. So it is not in vain. I dont know you or your Dad but Ive been with the same type of people. These people made a life from nothing and did well for themselves and the country. They knew above all that this must be passed on. The red in OUR flag is from the blood of those who fought for American liberty. That color now stands for socialism, communism and repression. I am reminded of this quote: “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gosple of envy, its inherent virtue is equal sharing of misery”, Winston Churchill. The greatest generation isnt gone but lives through us and those who they touched with their wisdom. The people of the United States has very little guidance. They are children with no parents. Only through an epiphany could they gain any knowledge or strength. Possibly. The Army is in shambles, fraud waste and abuse is rampant, leadership is non instructural. I work the MRAP vehicle and teach soldiers. I retired in 99 as a Command Master Chief in the Navy, 26 years. Went back to Iraq for two years then on to Afghanistan. This is my third winter here at COP Carwile. I work with the teams and regular soldiers. As you know when your in the military for a long time you dont fit anywhere else. These are my people and its my job to get them up to speed, hopefully they’re listening. If not, you carry the body bags up the hill. obama has instituted the govt of stalin. Same exact methods. Nothing is trusted. obama is an islamic muslim terrorist, theres only one way this will turn out. The 47% are becoming more prepared everyday, we will reduce the socialism, communism and repression to dust. Thank you for you support,Pray for the soldiers, they are young and the body bags are many.Mike in Afganistan Subject: [godfatherpolitics] Re: Massive Revenue Loss Follows California Tax Hike Vote

    3. I live in AZ & there are more cars with CA license plates on them than ever before!!! I moved from Hawaii …..another libtard state!!! What a difference that was!!!

      1. Watch out!! They are importing their liberal beliefs to the states they move to. Yes, I know some are conservative, but……….

        1. You all had better get to running those people away!, before your state is ruined!Calif. is a state of illegals who suck it dry!
          nothing left- they move on to fresh territory!

        2. It is kind of the “locust” swarms that used to devour everything, leaving only destruction behind.

        3. Thats the problem with liberalism. After they destroy the country or state they inhabit they move to a new state and begin the destruction there. Doing the same thing that destroyed where they came from but expecting different results.

          That is the definition of insanity.

        4. Same with the Yankee’s, Mexican’s, Muslim’s, Asian’s and all the others. Want it to be like the place they just left because it was no good.

        5. I lived in Massachusetts, known as Taxachusetts, for several years and I saw residents of Massachusetts flee to New Hampshire which had markedly lower taxes. These same expatriates than proceded to demand more and larger state programs from New Hampshire. Cubans fled Cuba’s communistic hell hole to come to the USA and now I read half of the Cuban community in the USA voted for socialistic Obama. It is insane.

        6. That’s exactly what has happened to the I-4 corridor in FL – Tampa to Orlando, and then on the lower East coast – West Palm to Miami – all libs who escaped from where they were but brought their liberal ideology to FL an are now contaminating us. We moved from NY to FL 40 yrs ago BUT we brought conservative ideology with us.

        7. Join the Tea Party and make it a priority to make sure AZ stays red. We are in real danger of going blue here.

    4. Boy–That old “tax the rich scheme” works really well, doesn’t it. To the dumb asses in California who continue to fall for the same Democrat tactics. “You can’t tax it, if it ain’t there.” And Californians have the audacity to say that Rednecks are stupid.

    5. That’s a side effect of marjuana …& sodium flouride ….cause they gota have thier fat salaries ……………………………………………£
      to pay for all thoses those 420 parties §;-)4

    6. Californians deserve exactly what they VOTE for. They elected “Moonbeam” thinking that he would tax those evil rich bastards into oblivion and all of their budget problems would be solved. Well Cailfornia, how does it feel to screw yourself? Remember–You can’t tax anybody when they MOVE. Congrats for maintaining the “stupid factor.”

    1. The politicians in the District of Corruption are a lot smarter than the ones on California and they’re going to prove it with our money. Unfortunately it is a lot hard if you aren’t filthy rich to run to the next country. Most are run by socialist politicians just like ours.

        1. European Georgia is another pura vida place to live – total free market economy, no socialism, and strong work ethic. It’s the only European country that is solvent. i may come join you in C.R. lol

  2. I lived most of my life in California. I have witnessed it from being the best place in the world to becoming the communist cesspool it now is. Yet, my fellow Californians contiue to elect and reelect the most nefarious politicians possible. It seems that vileness and irresponsibility are the traits most desired of public officials in this state.

      1. Hands up for how many of us can say the same? I miss the Cali of my youth. My son wants me to move back & I’d love to be closer, but not at the political (and all that that entails) cost. WA isn’t much better & I despise being here, but can’t sell my house.

        1. My little sister & her family live in California. I won’t even go visit.

          My brother, when he was alive, was a trucker. He entered California and was at an inspection station. He was looking for a “permit” and didn’t want to wake the other driver asleep in the cab. As he looked through a book containing all the permits, CHP officer started to get frustrated, and starting spouting off “all the things that would happen to my brother” if he didn’t find the permit. Finally, he found the required permit. My brother did apologize to the CHP officer. He told him “I’m sorry about that. I normally truck in the U.S.A. This is my first time in ‘Communist Territory’ “

    1. The question for the rest of us is, how do the states that have no state income tax make it? I live in NC and we are a tax and spend state too.

      1. As far as I know, thre are only tow of those states left, TN being one of them. Here, we have a bit higher sales tax than most other states, the state tax is 8.75% before the local taxes are added to that, So, you end up paying at least 9.25% in sales tax no matter where you live in the state,. But, I would much rather have that sales tax, above table, then any under the table tax scheme the liberals are famous for. Under the table taxation is way too easy to tinker with without public knowledge. As an example, my wife is from Cleveland, OH. OH has a state income tax. As a result, the price of things in the store up there are usually a bit higher than they are down here. My wife’s sister had found a watch at Wal-Mart up there she was considering getting for her daughter for her birthday or something. Up there the watch was over $20. My wife got down here (we got married in June) to Tn and found the exact same watch at Wal-Mart here for about $10. That is how those taxes affect prices between states.

      2. I will tell you how, they are not being bled dry by polititions, and they do not tax and spend the working population out of business. One other thing that the no incometax states do that is just about as shady as the rest is they clam no income tax (South Dakota for one) but they place sales tax on labor. Freaking joke! Until we take away the social programs and government retirement (outside and over and above SS) we will never fix this mess!

      3. Al, I have friends that live in Nevada, no state income tax, and that state does ok. Now Las Vegas has high unemployment, but that’s because of all the illegals living there and taking service jobs from citizens. But we in Montana have both state and fed income tax, BUT no sales tax…. doing fine, and still in the black. We ABSOLUTELY MUST GET RID OF THE BLOODSUCKING LIBERALS.

        1. Because the Unions back him and George Sorros owns many of the voting machines that the Unions fix when they flub up.{Because it is a UNION job I guess.} You figured it out yet? He owns much of the New Media also. That is why you believe what comes out of their mouths. MSNBC, NBC, CBS unless it is 60 minutes or one of those type shows – don’t watch there news. ABC is also guilty. It is like they only give news that suits them or their agenda. Maybe if we lower there ratings by not watching – they might get the idea..

      4. The Texas Legislature meets on odd calendar years for 140 days starting the second Tuesday in January. It’s not easy to keep throwing out the Conservatives who become liberals, but at least they can’t pick our pockets but every other year. No income tax and a wonderful climate for small businesses, but high property taxes.

      5. New Hampshire has no state income or sales taxes. Property taxes are a bit high, but the state is very careful with spending the people’s money and the legislature is part time. They meet in the statehouse auditorium, have no offices and no staff. The difference is the result of fiscal responsibility. It is one of the lowest tax states overall in the country, but that may not last if they keep voting Democrat.

      1. Wrong color! Get some brown or black shoe polish, apply to your face and hands say SI or yasssur and you will have the check in the mail! May even have some cash in hand to tide you over untill the check,snap card arrives!

    2. And we can give a LOUD ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO HOLLYWOOD for that gigantic step. Those folks (the Sarandons, Tim Robbins, Hanoi Jane Fonda, Matt Damon, Tom Hanks, and the like for all those LIBERAL dollars to the communist in the whitehouse, oh don’t forget the king scum Bill Mahr. We could save California if we got rid of Hollywood and San Francisco.

    3. Hey emerutil, It’s not just your state that vileness and irresponsibility are the traits most desired of public officials but in all 50 states or as the fraud in the W. H. believes, 57 states.

    4. I was born and raised in California. You are correct. It is now Mexifornia. If you are a U.S. citizen you do not receive equal justice under the law. Drive in some cities and (maybe) forgot your license. U.S. citizen….your car is towed. Illegal….Oh poor dears they need their cars to go to work and take their kids to school. AND AMERICANS DON’T? One judge has already said the law is illegal. He must be a conservative.

    5. I lived in sf in the late ’60s. I wanted to return and stay, but I’m so glad I did not. Still have relatives and many, many friends there – all conservatives, strangely. But there are fewer and fewer reasons to stay. What bothers me more is the change of New Hampshire (the live free or die state) to a solid blue state. Massachusetts tax refugees have come expecting all they left behind for free. Ain’t gonna happen.

      Calif. is VERY DEVASTED, since it has been festering with ILLEGAL ALIENS!
      Calif. taxpayers need to unite and save Calif.!

      1. If all of you would use a little sense you would remember from school that California was taken from Spain (Mexico) so uhh yeah there are a lot of Hispanics here. We do have a lot of illegals here too and if obummer would require them to go home we might be able to stem the flow. NOW, not everyone in California votes for the libitards and especially not JBrown! I am and have always been a Rep. It’s a hard fight but I keep it up. I lived in LA in the ’60s then got transplanted to western NY for 11 years, graduated , joined the Navy and requested duty in San Diego. Met my wife here brought up 2 boys here and hate cold and or very hot humid weather. I’m not going anywhere and I’m going to keep fighting for this city, state and country ’til they spread my ashes. Don’t slam everyone in California, there are a few of us trying to make a difference for the next generation! That’s all any of us can do…..

  3. The idiots who live in California prove their mental instability with the election of Double-Ugly Pelosi and nutcase Jerry Brown!!!!

        1. My husband receives the union mailers from his work place, which tell how to vote (nothing to do with Fox news); most of his co-workers agree with those and vote along their lines. He’s one of the few that can see both sides having been self-employed many years and seeing how things work here in CA. . . . . . baseless?

        2. They vote however they want. I don’t care if a mailer tells them what to do. How would they know how a person voted?

    1. If that is the whole of their priorities in life, they belong right where they are, because they are a lost cause!

      1. I say let’s divide the country into red states and blue states with a giant wall. Let the idiot libs in the blue states figure it all out for themselves. I guarantee they’ll be scaling the wall to our side within three months!

        1. Nice idea; wouldn’t work because there are libs and conservatives alike in ALL the states; yep even CA has some conservatives still living there. We need to divide all right; but we need to relocate the various factions from the inappropriate territories for them also, or the same problems will only continue in both places!

        2. I just recently visited family in Dallas, Tx. All the money is pouring into
          that state! ! Things are booming. I wonder why. . . .

        3. RICK PERRY,,,, THAT’S WHY. HE’S A GOOD MAN!. He may not be a great ‘debater’, but HE KNOWS HOW TO RUN A STATE. He is also requesting his states gold reserves be returned to Texas,,, SMART MAN.

        4. But it’s really not Red States vs Blue States – the whole map bled red on election night! It’s BLUE CITIES vs the rest of us! Fraud machines, fraud votes, mentally handicapped folk being taken to polling places and shown where to mark the ballot – community agitators giving out VRCs at the door when they sign up illegals – no VRCs should be given by any door-to-door “salesman!” That should be a function of either the County Clerk in the rural areas, or the Election Officer in the cities! NO Community Agitator should have access to voter registration cards! EVER!!!!

        1. I quit going to movies a long time ago. I refuse to support any stars (movie or music) that are “liberal”. I will not pay them to further the Communist agenda. Screw Hollywood!

        1. thanks, staunch ally. high time to bring cheating thugs to justice, but it will not happen with morally-compromised atty-gen-in-hiding eric holder.

        2. my hero, allen west, was ahead by 9% in all the polls, was leading on election day, then the “miracle” avalanche of st. lucie county votes for murphy.  i despise these boss tweed  shameless cheaters.

        3. graveyard votes for donks.  alien votes for donks.  one donk voting multiple times.  the “amazing” loss of military votes, including the ballot cast my my son who was serving in afghanistan.  btw, active mil people vote 70% republican, so what an amazing thing that their votes were “unfortunately” lost.  i utterly despise these corrupt  boss tweed soulless donk cheaters.

        4. i’m assuming you are being either extremely sarcastic or very  naive.  the blatant donk vote cheating in south florida is so widespread it makes me vomit when mentioning it.

    1. Actually, I think most of the ones LEAVING are the ones disgusted with the Dems and their lib insanity, and tired of paying for it!

  4. good thing this is not a huffington post comments forum. HP will not allow any real truth but will allow the stupidity of the liberal lamebrains to be posted.

  5. It’s like a drug addict. The only way to turn the problem around is to hit Rock Bottom. Even then, many go under. What a world!

    1. The thing about rock bottom.

      We, of good conscience and ability need to let it happen. Now that’s hard to do. Its hard to not donate to your food bank or support some kid at Christmas with a new toy and a coat. Its hard. On your conscience.

  6. Liberalism=Shared misery for all. It’s only a matter of time before they reach critical mass. Eventually, you run out of other people’s money…

  7. California: Paradise lost, thanks to fools and thieves running their government. Unfortunately, the whole country is on the verge of suffering an equal fate, thanks to the same problem in Washington.

    1. What part of ILLEGAL doesn’t anyone understand? I am talking ALL the ILLEGALS not JUST the part Hispanic! Look around and see how many different languages you hear ? How are WE letting all these people in OUR COUNTRY ? Then they want to CHANGE our CONSTITUTION !! MY COUNTRY was Created and based on GOD’S WORD and LIVING-Look at what we have allowed !! We are NO LONGER FREE !!

      1. I disagree with your statement, “It has nothing to do with taxes”…

        When people have more money, they spend it. Hire yard services. Someone to clean the house. Put the pool in…When you confiscate earnings via taxes, you leave people with less. They go out to eat or not, with less.

        A state like Cali, has Sales taxes, Income taxes, and ofcourse you pay Fed. taxes…But, you get municipalities adding a tiny tax here and there, and how much does it cost now a days, to register a fairly new car there? And that’s only for 1 year. And the sales tax on a vehicle purchase in Cali-shoot. That’s a surround sound system for your house. Or, new flooring…Just sayin’. Taxes hurt consumers. People working. People trying to work, and live a normal life.

        1. Taxes can hurt consumers, they don’t necessarily. If the only part of the situation you look at is money leaving the hands of an individual, of course taxation looks horrible. You can talk about how bloated government is and how much of our taxes our wasted and have a point, but to simply dismiss all taxes as harmful is far too simplistic, since it completely ignores what the taxes pay for.

          The point I was making was that a business doesn’t hire more people depending on their taxes. If they need more people for their business, they’ll hire them.

        2. I realize some taxes are a necessary evil; but government never spends within its means. Case in point: here in Oregon, we obviously have fuel taxes just like Cali. But, apparently the fuel taxes aren’t enough anymore, to fix roads-because the taxes aren’t being used to just fix the roads, its used for bike paths and sidewalks…The revenue is down also, due to more fuel efficient vehicles and electric ones, and all the public transportation we offer.

          So. Oregon is experimenting with a system to pay for your “road usage”. Think mileage tax. Oh. And an increase in Vehicle Registration fees….

          But, back to the original statement. You said that business will hire people if they need them, and that taxes don’t affect business…Well. Business and Corporations have to make money. And that means they need a consumer for what they sell or produce. You know you need a new (pick your poison, a computer, a car, a coffee pot) something, but money has been tight. Not even doing pizza. If the consumer has less, it hurts the businesses that need consumers. So. I think taxes do hurt.

    1. I will agree the tax system needs redone BUT You raise and tax the same COMPANIES who hire WHO is going to hire? Obamacare alone is going to destroy some! He has the LAZY GETTO Type mentality, POOR me so take it from the ones who took a chance and made something work and give to the ones who DON’T want to WORK !!

  8. The demographics of California are such that there is no hope for it, that is, for those wishing the state could return to its earlier glory. That said, its continuing decline and imminent collapse may serve as a warning to other states headed in the same direction. I escaped 28 June 1970, and have never looked back.

  9. Poetic irony. Many of those union libtards were bussed to WI to protest against Governor Walker. While California is now basically bankrupt, Wisconsin is reporting to have a 350+ MILLION dollar surplus this next year, which is anticipated to passed to the taxpayers as an income tax or property tax CUT! Gee Mr. Obvious, which state would you rather live in?

  10. Increasing income taxes has one effect. Less taxes coming in. Decreasing taxed increases revenue. Simple equation. Too hard for politicians to figure it out.

  11. Problem is when liberal Californians flee their failure they bring their failed liberalism with them to the next state they infest and ruin that state too. All I can say is Californians go home! Don’t Cali-fornicate my state!

  12. Oh yes, another Brown to flush. I have lived all of my 68 years in CA, and I loved growing up here, but thanks to all the Liberals in this state we will soon look like Detroit. Then we also have those Hollywood Libs that pretend that they are so concerned with the little man, but watch them vacate the state because theycan afford some palace in another state that doesn’t have the taxes that Brown and other idiots who fell for the sales pitch he sold the voters. Ca is going down the toilet, so remember, “If it’s Brown, flush it”.

  13. Let us hope those Liberals stay in California or they will bring there stupidity with them to join the other states Liberals who just elected another one just like them Nationally. This is part of the fault of the 17th Amendment!!!! And there is more to come throughout the States as Federal laws, rules and regulations destroy us.

  14. What!?!? it caused loss of revenue? nahh, that must be wrong because all the lefties say that you must increase taxes to get more money, probably some stupid Republican who says that revenue decreases when you hike taxes, dumb Republicans… see the president also says that hiking taxes on the rich will make more money for the government, so something must be right….. or not? huh? those conservatives were right after all!?!? nah, you must be kidding! (this is dripping with sarcasm, keep a bucket under the screen!)

  15. It is ironic that all the Liberal Hollywood types all have homes all around the world I just wonder how many are not “residenced” in California? Now when New York passed their own type of “millionaires” tax even Rush Limbaugh moved out. This tax in New York cost NY over $80billion is lost revenues. Well back to CA certainly Obama will bail out CA if needed as he got his 55 electorial votes here. Unfortunately CA has also lost 2 million jobs over the past 3 years. Trying to convince businesses to locate here in CA might be quite difficult considering CA already has the highest taxes and worst schools………..yet highest paid teachers.

  16. …and this is how it works! Though CA voters are likely to show the same ignorance the Greeks have demonstrated. They apparently don’t understand anything about economics.

    1. Anticipation. Just as when the US economy started to dip with the election of Obama in 2008, even before he took office. Almost to the day. When it is YOUR money, you are very protective of it.

  17. Democrats are so stupid to think that raising taxes is the solution to all their money wasting issues… God help us if things don’t change. Smaller government, fewer regulations and lower taxes brings in more revenue… more taxes bigger government and more taxes destroys the economy.. proven time after time… Idiots.

    1. “Democrats are so stupid to think that raising taxes is the solution to all their money wasting issues.” They don’t. You think that’s what they think.

      You are simple.

  18. California deserves everything they get, my guess bankruptcy coming next to California and of course and unless Obama bails them out. Capitalism is the only way with lower taxes to increase revenue.

  19. It is unbelievable how stupid the California voters are who voted and believed the politicians to raise taxes. Who in their right mind would vote themselves to have to pay more money to the government. It just boggles the mind.

  20. I love this article. Forget the fact that the sales tax does not take effect until the November voting is certified(sometime this month), which means not yet! And all the sheep that read this can, and should go to the controllers website and see why the revenue did not meet projections, and see that revenues are actually up over 2011. There is an old saying, There are Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics. I am a Republican, so no Demnut leanings!

  21. “All the unemployed workers they leave behind would then have the choice
    of waking up and finally booting out the leeches from Sacramento or
    following their former employers out of state.”

    I wish I had the confidence this author does. I do not believe that voters will wake up. Unfortunately, there are more TAKERS than MAKERS, especially in a place like California. So they will not wake up. They will continue to vote make the “rich” “pay their fair share” until there are only bureaucrats and illegals left in California.

    At that point, the “citizens” will start demanding that California be “given” back to Mexico.

    Very bleak times coming.

  22. I’m waiting for the howl that goes up when Cal asks the feds for a bailout. If it happens in the next four years Obama will provide it and the Repubs are too inarticulate to prevent it. If a third party could position itself to oppose this handout it could take off.

    1. A third party encompassing those that abhor the extreme left and right would be great, but they need to get their @$$ in gear now. Waiting till the election season starts as they’ve done till now will get them nowhere.

  23. the people in the state of fruits and nuts arein this mess due to the incompetency of people like pelosi, boxer, waters and “moonbat” jerry brown. californians are so stupid that they deserve what is happening out there now.

  24. Slides have a way of increasing speed as they begin to move and California has been slowly sliding for some time and the Dumocraps have ignored it and kept up the onslaught of new taxes and more spending. The citizens of Cal should sent the bills to the politicians and hold them personally responsible for their wreckless attitudes and their refusal to see the reality of their situation.


  25. Well, I don’t know why, the rich in California would say “higher taxes won’t bother me….” then the state finds the revenues ARE NOT THERE. It’s kind of like the President telling the people who lost everything from the storm Sandy, and being told by HIM that they will be taken care of…………IT AIN’T THERE……Can we think the Dems in D.C. will “think” the same thing will happen to them?

  26. it’s time for moochelle, the kids, and barry-of-the-father-unknown and bo dog to take another multi-million-dollar vacation at taxpayer expense. i haven’t been able to afford a vacation for four years. oh, the joy of sacrificing to provide funding for entitled libtard spree-spenders

      1. gee, my overtime disappeared, but the chicagoland gangster obama’s are still taking multi- million dollar vacations on my taxes.  thanks a lot, corrupt gouging thugs.

      2. the postmaster general turned down a request to place barack obama or eric holder on a stamp.  said folks would be confused about which side gets the spit.

    1. How
      things have changed! If you’re one of the tens of millions of Americans facing
      certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves
      at Wal-Mart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream and then
      come to realize that the benefit package for these servants of Miz Michelle are
      the same as members of the national security and defense departments and the
      bill for these assorted lackeys is paid by John Q. Public:

      $172,2000 – Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)

      $140,000 – Frye, Jocelyn C. (Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of
      Policy And Projects For The First Lady)

      $113,000 – Rogers, Desiree G. (Special Assistant to the President and White
      House Social Secretary)

      $102,000 – Johnston, Camille Y. (Special Assistant to the President and
      Director of Communications for the First Lady)

      Winter, Melissa E. (Special Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief Of
      Staff to the First Lady)

      $90,000 – Medina, David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)

      7. $84,000
      – Lelyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to the First Lady)

      $75,000 – Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance for the First

      $70,000 – Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects for the
      First Lady)

      $65,000 – Burnough, Erinn J. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)

      Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)

      $62,000 – Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events
      Coordinator For The First Lady)

      $60,000 – Fitts, Alan O. (Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director for the
      First Lady)

      Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to the First Lady)

      $52,500 – Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary
      To The First Lady)

      $50,000 – Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling
      Aide To The First Lady)

      $45,000 – Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence For The
      First Lady)

      Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)

      $40,000 – Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff to the
      First Lady)

      $36,000 – Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)

      Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)

      Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence for the First

      has never been anyone in the White House at any time that has created such an
      army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady’s
      social life. One wonders why she needs so much help, at taxpayer expense, when
      even Hillary, only had three; Jackie Kennedy one; Laura Bush one; and prior to
      Mamie Eisenhower social help came from the President’s own pocket.

      This does not include makeup artist Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49, and “First
      Hairstylist” Johnny Wright, 31, both of whom travelled aboard Air Force
      One to Europe.

    2. They are going to commie Hawaii for Christmas, (or what is the equivalent for Muslims) and it is going to cost $4 million or more. Isn’t it nice to set a good example for the poor folks?

  27. It is amazing how foolish these liberal “lawmakers” are! No where here or in other countries has it ever been shown that huge deficit spending reduces debt, stimulates private business, or raises revenue or income. Neither do government bailouts work in the long run. But, the idiots keep trying the same tactic expecting different results! Their solution is always to raise taxes. That takes a toll on the people and on entrepeneurs who finally say, “That’s it! We’re out of here!” and seek more tax friendly environments where they can grow a business. What is so difficult about the basic principles of Economics 101? Astounding! Add to this the moral decadence in California and the outlook is grim beyond belief!

  28. Final consumption sales tax only – no item or person exempt
    – When a family goes into a grocery store and buys $100 in groceries and the
    clerk adds $5 for local tax, $7 for county, $15 for state tax, $35 for federal
    tax and $45 to pay off the federal debt, the crap will come out of the American
    peoples head about the cost of government.

    Then give the American people the right to directly decide
    what they are willing to buy through government, (by pass congress). Socialism,
    liberalism, high government spending will end. In 4 years the American people
    will reduce government spending by 35% and increase the productivity of our tax
    dollars by 400%.

    Final consumption tax would make America made products and
    services more competitive. Taking taxes off business will bring business, their
    money and jobs back to America. Also, if the fed were to make the real
    inflation rate between a deflationary .5% and 0% inflation foreign money would
    move to America and keep interest rates low in a free market.

  29. The people running for office should be required to take an I.Q. test,that should
    weed out some of the problems in public office.

  30. What’s that I hear? Sounds like a stampede of people leaving Kalifornication in herds, to greener pastures with better tax rates. And the other part is the whining and moaning of libs as they continue to bankrupt the state with their insane taxes.

  31. Can anyone say secede to making this a better place to live in, Out from under the control of the Marxist pigs in Washington.

  32. With a little luck california will just fall of the country and take all the fruits and nuts with it, we could maybe just give california back Mexico, if you went there today you could easily think you had crossed into Mexico.

  33. Some people are just naturally stupid….Some really work at it as California proves!
    However, the latest reports are saying that California businesses are moving to Texas. That’s good. The test will be to see if Californians following them can stand the “heat” in Texas and I don’t mean the temp!

  34. Interesting email


    This is exactly why Mitt Romney said that 40 something % of the people are too dependent on the government. They have learned to work the system.
    A Ford Dealer’s Report – From Tom Selkis’ (Latham Ford) Facebook – True story yesterday at the dealership.

    “I’ll try to make this as short and to the point as I can.

    One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus.

    As he was reviewing her credit application with her he noticed she was on social security disability.
    He said to her you don’t look like you’re disabled and unable to work.

    She said well I’m really not. I could work if I wanted to, but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury).

    She said the gov’t sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check. And she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent. Oh yeah, and 250 minutes free on her phone.

    That is just south of $3500.00 a month. When she was working, she was taking home about $330.00 per week.

    Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work.

    If you multiply that by millions of people, you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country.

    Once the socialists have 51% of the population in that same scenario, we are finished.

    The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven’t already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people? Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.

    She didn’t lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal by $10.00/month.

    Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money.”

    How passing info on to others in America is having an effect…

    10 pass it on to their 10
    100 then pass it on to their 10
    1,000 then pass it on to their 10
    10,000 then pass it on to their 10
    100,000 then pass it on to their 10
    1,000,000 then pass it on to their 10
    10,000,000 then pass it on to their 10
    100,000,000 then pass it on to their 10
    Yes, through the power of the Internet America is becoming aware.
    So, we realize this doesn’t seem like were doing much when we pass these on to our 10, but we
    CAN help by getting the word out. Media refuses to cover such issues.

  35. The great mystery, California just can’t figure out why all of those people are leaving. Obviously it’s the sane ones that are leaving, so many people left in the Congressional districts that have a Republican representative that now there has to be a runoff election to vacate one of the Republican seats.

    1. We also see now why groups in Northern California keep petitioning to secede from California but of course that is impossible with San Francisco in the north unless they find a way to send Nancy Pelosi and the entire city of San Francisco to LA or some place in that direction.

      1. Just Gerrymander San Fransisco so its in the “south California borders” Pelosi would know lots about gerrymandering I would think. Maybe we could get really smart and give SoCal to the Chinese to get rid of our trade imbalance and and alleged debt to them.

  36. Evidently they do not teach in CA schools the fable of “The Man Who Killed the Golden Goose.” Libs never learn; that’s why they are libs. The same is true nationally. I cannot tell you how many people I hear groaning about offshoring jobs. They do not realize that the 35% federal corporate income tax is one strong incentive to move companies elsewhere. Shanghai and Singapore have very low corporate income taxes, and they both enjoy 2 of the most thriving economies on the planet.

  37. I could have moved out there in,the mid-80’s. Now I’m glad I didn’t.
    The state is beginning to look like Michigan with sunshine.

  38. If Obama does not look at this and see that raising taxes on the rich as opposed to closing loopholes is a bad move, only one conclusion can be made…he wants America on her knees and vulnerable to a takeover. He doesn’t like America.

  39. You see Government doesn’t understand that Businesses or people with money do not have to stick around and be insulted and injured by fools that think they can just tax them until tax time and they will get their money back through various tax loop holes the Government put in the tax laws to protect those with money. It comes a point where businesses and people with large sums of money just get tried of like In New York people moved out to avoid higher taxes. But those guys in California didn’t learn from New they increased taxes and lost their tax bases and large tax payers..and will now depend more on the middle class to carry the day and support the fools at large!

  40. Remember when California was the Golden State, 5th largest economy in the world. Just keep voting to raise taxes. The busnesses and millonaries are leaving. The liberals can tax themselves, or will they cut benefits and entitlements

  41. The liberal politicians will soon be out of rat holes to hide in and the fireworks will start when the welfare crowd realizes their handout party is over. California will start the ball rolling soon.

  42. The liberal millionaires can stay in California. We do not want their liberal, spend and tax philosophy in Texas. They can move to New York State and join their liberal friends up there. Those millionaires who think a balanced budget with no tax increases is the answer (the correct fiscal approach) are Welcome in Texas. As a matter of fact, if you are fed up and are a fiscal conservative, then move your business to Texas. We will welcome you.

  43. Unfortunately for some of us we are stuck in California – I was born here and was once proud to tell people I was from California – now I am ashamed – I believe that the problem is that there are more people on the take then there are participating in the taxes so they don’t mind having taxes raised – wait until there is no more revenue coming in – oh I know – then we go to obamabucks and ask for him to print some more money and on and on it goes- too bad again California was once the golden state now it is nothing but a ????

  44. During the 2nd half of the 20th Century, debt accumulated in the $Billions/yr. (a few years in the 1950s there was actually a surplus). Then after the 60s it grew by $tens of Billions/yr. But after 1980, the advent of supply side economics, it grew by $100s of Billions/yr. Then during the Clinton years (1990s), when he raised taxes it slowed to the $10s of Billions again.

    But once the FTA’s were introduced (actually it took a few years after their introduction), deficits reached the $100s of Billions from then on. Here’s my point: The increases in debt from 2001, when China joined the WTO, reached over $500 Billion/yr. from then on out.

    Part of the problem is the migration of middle class jobs to the four winds to capitalize on cheap labor abroad. Middle class employment took a hit; that along with the downward pressure on wages/benefits in jobs that remained combined to curtail revenue.

    The middle class worker with a decent pay and disposable income becomes the “demand” side of the “supply and demand” formula. Plus, the middle class contributes to the national treasury right off of their paycheck. By gutting the middle class and depriving it decent paying jobs (the employment of cheap labor forces on foreign soil), I hypothesize, you kill the goose that laid the golden egg, namely, the middle class. In addition, taxes come right off of working class paycheck in the form of the Payroll Tax. The wealthy that have remained super solvent in this 30 year trend of wealth consolidation at the top, have too many methods of hiding their wealth to keep it from being taxed (research “Top Ten Ways the Rich Escape Taxation), including parking it in offshore accounts. Is it any wonder why our national debt is snowballing?

    I predict as the money dries up, you will see more and more vilifying of those who have slipped into poverty from the middle class; a type of blame the victim approach to subterfuge the real blame from coming to rest on the real perpetrators of this mess.

  45. its a simple concept…..make a place unfriendly/unprofitable for business …….and the business’s will go elsewhere. dunno what is so hard to figure out? libs seem to hate productivity…..except at gathering taxes for their redistribution.

    1. John, corporations are making record gains and are sitting on $Trillions in profits garnered mostly from a declining middle class consumer market that has more and more of its constituents slipping into poverty in recent years. The nation’s wealth isn’t being “redistributed from the wealthy to the poor through taxation like you assert, just the opposite. Here’s why I say that:

      The great wage disparity that has occurred over the past 30 years has consolidated wealth at the top like we haven’t seen since the days of the Robber Barons a century ago. Maybe you think that there’s something wrong with a USA that promoted all of its citizens’ prosperity, but I don’t; it’s smart business. A middle class with disposable income will bolster retail sales and crank up the economy (this is if this increased production actually increases production in USA factories as well as paychecks into the pockets of USA workers like it used to do before the middle class was kicked to the curb for sweatshop labor on foreign soil.) Even so, during the past 30 years real output in the business sector grew by 140%. Real compensation per hour (includes wages, benefits, pensions, and health insurance) increased by only 38% for the middle class worker.
      Post WWII, 1947-1979 America shared equally in the increase in output. During those years the increase that the bottom 20% received was 116%, the top 20% got an increase of 99%, and the middle quintiles increased somewhere within that range.
      Then the world flipped! From 1980 to 2007 the rich took practically all the increase in income. Over those decades, the poor received only a 15% increase and the middle three quintiles got a 25% increase, while the top 20% got a 95% increase and the top 1% received a raise of close to 300%.

      Plus, the middle class contributes to the national treasury (revenue) right off of their paycheck through a payroll tax. By gutting the middle class and depriving them from a decent paying job through the employment of a cheap labor force on foreign soil, I hypothesize, you kill the goose that laid the golden egg. The wealthy that have remained super solvent in this 30 year trend of wealth consolidation at the top, have too many methods of hiding their wealth and keeping it from being taxed (research “Top Ten Ways the Rich Escape Taxation), including parking it in offshore accounts. Is it any wonder why the national debt is snowballing? The combination of a decimated, underemployed/unemployed middle class, and a privileged upper class that has been provided a myriad of means in our tax code to hide their fabulous wealth, makes no sense anymore. To ask the privileged to put their shoulder to the wheel and chip in to help with this national crisis has been propagandized by some as “class warfare.” Disgusting!

      Corporations complain about the 35% corporate tax being the highest in the world, but have you looked into all the “corporate welfare” available to our corporations (especilly our “multinationals”) that are granted tax subsidies to offset the cost of setting up shop offshore ($30-40 BILLION/yr. by some estimates; GE’s profits exceed $14 BILLION, but submit 24,000 pages of exemptions written by a team of ex-IRS employees, and pay zero taxes, for example, look into Exxon/Mobile, etc.) then park their profits in offshore accounts with impunity to escape contributing anything in taxation to their nation of origin.

      Those who should be up in arms about this have been convinced by the political party that promotes the prosperity of those at the top that it’s all about envy and “class warfare.” They have been very successful in fooling the gullible masses, while we march steadily toward a Plutocracy with its victims in strenuous, full-throated approval. As long as the middle class had a decent job, we didn’t even realize class warfare had been declared, so we didn’t show up. BUT WE’RE HERE NOW!!!

      I predict as the money continues to dry up, you’ll see more and more vilifying of those who have slipped into poverty from the middle class as “freeloaders”; a type of ironic, blame the victim approach to try to subterfuge the truth and keep the blame from coming to rest upon the real perpetrators of this mess.

  46. I am retired and stuck in California. I watch as homes get foreclosed and businesses get boarded up and all the while the liberal-progressive zealots say increasing taxes will solve the problems of the state. They understand economics about as well as my dog understands how hid food gets into cans.

  47. The most amazing thing that California ever did was to re-elect a former failed Governor from 35 years or so before, in the hope of extending the Liberal Spending – well they re-elected him, and he is back doing the same silly things that he did before ! What on earth did they expect ?

  48. Only 1 of us 5 siblings still live in California, where we were born and raised. My sister lives in the Santa Cruz mountains, a contented liberal millionaire, on retirement. Wonder how far her retirement will last with the leeches in control in Sacramento. The rest of us saw the light, and got out… I am the 2nd youngest & the first to vacate that state, in ’91.

  49. I wish you wouldn’t call them “liberals.”

    Lord Acton and John Stuart Mill were “liberals.” Jeremy Bentham and Adam Smith were “liberals.” The “Democrats” aren’t “liberals,” they are Bolsheviks…

    1. I wished that the left wouldn’t call themselves “liberals”, There is nothing liberating about their agenda. I also hate the “red state ” , “blue state” thing. The leftist states should be called “red” not “blue”. This is just another example of the deception that they embrace.

  50. Kalifornia was once the great, golden state. Now the successful have been overrun by the world’s poorest and least educated, which now control the political system there. Want to see what you have to look forward to? Check out Kalifornia for a “Preview of Coming Attractions”.

  51. Hey Mexico is ready to come in and take over – they’ve even a citizen base – criminals and all of the attributes which give them such a high standard of living – c

  52. California the land of liberal loons. Please stay in your state, we don’t want you corrupting the rest of the country with your socialist ideas.

  53. If bone head goes for tax hicks for the rich thats whats going to happen to the whole country. But i guess there is more in the gop to go along with obambo than stand for principle. I know there werent enough to put a conservative up for pres. So they put the father of romney care a mod. I have heard many small bussies say they will have to cut back and some say they have to close when the taxes come.. I can see that happening to the whole country

  54. Sadley as they flee their state they take with them their liberal, mindless, moronic, beliefs
    and try to infect any other state they flee to. As they move to more work friendly states
    such as Texas we see the morons wanting to bring their same failed policies along with
    them. We have seen them flee to Arizona, Montana, Colorado, Texas, New Mexico and
    other states spewing thier corruption as they infest those states. They still have not
    comprehended that thier policies are the root of thier problems.

  55. There are approximately 12 million illegals in this country. I think it’s at least double that, but who’s counting? I would suspect that at least 8 million of them are squatting in California. That’s a huge voting block considering all the illegal adults can vote. I said can because no voter registration office in the country asked for any American citizenship identification. No birth certificate or naturalization papers are every asked for by these offices. Which means that “anybody” can vote. Now, how did all of these illegals get into the US? Well, let’s see. Congress is made up mostly of white males. This has been the makeup of Congress since 1776. Congress makes the laws and the INS carries them out. Ask yourself why, a mostly white government body, managed to allow at least 12 million foreigners into this country that didn’t belong here. Why does this government body still allow 120,000 legal immigrants, 80% of which are from third world countries, into this country and has been unabated for years. Most of those 120,000 immediately go on public assistance because there is no followup to enforce the sponsorship program. It’s against Federal Law to hire an illegal alien. Why has this governing body not forced employers to not hire illegal aliens. The law is in place. Why has it not been enforced? Very simple. We’re doing it to ourselves. White, educated, government officials are 100% to blame for the situation this country is in. It’s too late now for anything to be changed by the ballot box, which we all know is bogus. Things will continue on until the country completely falls apart. The only real hope is that we do the same thing our forefathers did at Yorktown. And, some of us managed to learn in school how that turned out.

  56. A.B.-32 hasn’t taken effect yet. The cost for transportation and utilities are are going to skyrocket and add to the burden of over taxation to pay for the Greedy Government and the Greedy Union perks.

  57. Yo Libtards! Wake the Hell up! Bigger Taxes ALWAYS make for less Tax Revenue for the Government. Keynesian Economics ALWAYS fails to be Fair to the Middle and Poor Income folks.

    You Progressives are complete Idiots when it comes to Sustainability in the Economy. Jerry Brown and Timothy Geithner should be put in Jail where they belong. They are Enemies of Society and America in the purest sense of the word!

  58. The stupid legislature planned their budget on a Facebook “windfall” tax. They were expecting massive amounts of money from that IPO – that ended up fizzing out. Bummer…

    This is how stupid California is.

  59. The problem is they leave and move into our states and have not learned a thing about the destruction they create. Look at Washington State, a once happy productive conservative state. The cities are a liberal run cesspool and it is starting to look like Detroit. The jobs in the timber industry are gone do to the EPA, and Marxists environmentalist passing laws on issues that are not issues ie the Spotted Owl. The owl is now under attack by other more fierce owls moving into their territory. They live fine in 3rd and fourth growth forests and really like cars in the junk yard to create their homes in but I digress. Where was I, oh ya Liberals are brain dead, illogical tools used by Commies, Marxists, and Socialists, and they are coming to your town.

  60. I know that I am currently buying property in Nevada and am moving my residency out of California in January. Oh, I am taking my money with me. The idiots in this state have very short memories as to the damage Moonbeam did to this state last time he was governor. They will get what they deserve, but I refuse to fund their liberal stupidity any longer.

  61. My brother-in-law moved to CA thirty years ago. He is very liberal so he fits right in. He loves the weather and I think he has gotten so used to the high taxes that he has no clue what it is like in states like Texas, where people can keep a lot more of their hard earned dollars. He just goes with the flow and doesn’t really pay attention to what is going on. He said he believes that nothing can be done to change things so why stress?


  63. The only issue I have is that once these leaches leave California, they will go somewhere else to leach from. I just don’t want them in Texas. If Texas does two things, then I’m gone – 1. out law guns and 2. incorporate a State Tax.

  64. Subject: Fw: 47
    years ago…gives you the chills!

    This video ….. should certainly be seen by

    This was 47 years ago.
    April 3, 1965. An amazing prediction.

    Do you remember the famous ABC radio commentator Paul Harvey?

    Millions of Americans listened to his programs which were broadcast over
    1,200 radio stations nationwide.

    When you listen to this, remember the commentary was broadcast 47 years
    ago on April 3, 1965.

    It’s short…less than three minutes. You will be amazed. click here

    Should Only Those Who Pay Taxes Should be Allowed to Vote?

    on November 10, 2012

    By Jerald Taylor:

    Our republic, in its current form, cannot continue forever. The
    old adage that once the peasants learn that they can vote themselves bread is
    rapidly proving itself to be true. Any but a fool can see that no government
    can continually spend more than it takes in can last. We can see it… the
    fools can’t. The point is that we must desperately attempt to educate them
    before they run the entire American experiment into the ground. Otherwise we
    will go the way of Greece, into insolvency, massive inflation and turmoil.

    Whenever enlightened people gain control of our government or in
    the next republic, if it comes to that, the vote must be restricted to those
    who pay taxes (which will be most people) and the government should be
    required to balance its budget except in time of declared war. The idea that
    all men are created equal and should therefore be able to vote is baloney.
    All men should be treated fairly and with compassion, but only those who pay
    some amount of tax, regardless how small, actually have some skin in the game
    and should be able to decide how much they are willing to spend.

    Government should be limited to military, judicial, police,
    education, maintenance of public parks, regulation of commerce,
    infrastructure and very few other things, none of which should include
    charitable purposes, regardless how worthy. Unemployed persons who want money
    from the government should be given something called a “job” performing
    projects related to some purpose within the governmental functions, similar
    to the Work Projects Administration or Civilian Conservation Corps of the
    depression era. Those who are truly unable to support themselves should be
    objects of charity.

    Anyone who believes that other things “ought to be done” should
    feel free to donate their own money toward the causes which they espouse.
    That would result in much greater efficiency, as we would not waste money
    fighting over those things which one group or another wants to force others
    to fund.

    Read more:


    What a great idea! No wonder Warren Buffet is a Billionaire !!!!

    Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best
    quotes about the debt ceiling:

    “I could end the deficit in 5 minutes,” he told CNBC. “You

    Pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more

    Than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible

    For re-election.

    The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds)

    Took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple!

    The people demanded it. That was in 1971 – before computers, e-mail,

    Cell phones, etc.

    Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year

    Or less to become the law of the land – all because of public pressure.

    Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to

    A minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask

    Each of those to do likewise.

    In three days, most people in The United States of America will

    Have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed


    Congressional Reform Act of 2012

    1. No Tenure / No Pension.

    A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no

    Pay when they’re out of office.

    2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social


    All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the

    Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into

    The Social Security system, and Congress participates with the

    American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

    3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all

    Americans do.

    4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.

    Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

    5. Congress loses their current health care system and

    Participates in the same health care system as the American people.

    6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the

    American people.

    7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void

    Effective 12/1/12. The American people did not make this

    Contract with Congressmen/women.

    Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in

    Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers

    Envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their

    Term(s), then go home and back to work.

    If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will

    Only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive

    The message. Don’t you think it’s time?


    If you agree, pass it on. If not, delete.

    You are one of my 20+ – Please keep it going, and thanks…

    —– > >> Subject: Been around b4 but too good
    ……..>>>> >> >> >> >> >>
    How about a 21 year old gal for President?>>

    Wow, this girl has a great plan! Love the last
    thing she would do the best.>>
    This was written by a 21 yr
    old female who gets it. It’s her future she’s worried about and this is
    how she feels about the social welfare big government state that she’s being
    forced to live in! These solutions are just common sense in her
    opinion.>> >>
    This was in the Waco Tribune Herald,
    Waco, TX , Nov 18, 2011>> >>
    . . .>> >>
    Put me in charge of food stamps.
    I’d get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just
    money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the
    powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza,
    then get a job.>> >>
    Put me in charge of
    Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control
    implants or tubal legations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs,
    alcohol, and nicotine. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol,
    or smoke, then get a job.>> >>
    Put me in charge
    of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will
    maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your
    “home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will
    be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or X-box 360, then get a
    job and your own place.>> >>
    In addition, you
    will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a
    “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash,
    painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We
    will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo
    and speakers and put that money toward the “common good.”>>
    Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s
    rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our
    money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be
    “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that
    it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing
    absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.>>
    If we are expected to pay for other people’s
    mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad
    choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad
    choices.>> >>
    And While you are on Gov’t
    subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes, that is correct. For
    you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily
    remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t welfare
    If you want to vote, then get a job.>>
    Now, if you have the guts – PASS IT

    I WOULD KNOW YOU SENT IT ON!!!>> >> >>

    Need to revise to add “the President
    together with his/her staff” as it appears that the President and his czars are
    also circumventing the laws of the land.

    Respectfully Submitted,

    Paul M. Mrozinsky

    [email protected]

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution

    From: James Graham

    HUNGRY !!!!

    As a widow of a military retiree, who stood with her
    husband for over 20 years while he served this country (which was the greatest
    in the world until this Congress and President took over), I have to say I
    agree. Shirley

    As a retired military man that have given over twenty-seven
    years of my life to my country, I truly feel that what this

    Country needs most is a new amendment to the Constitution . I am recommending
    that we add the 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES.

    For too long we have been too complacent about the workings
    of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that Congress members could retire with
    the same pay after only one term, that they didn’t pay into Social Security,
    that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have
    passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual
    harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is
    to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform that is being considered…in all
    of its forms. Somehow, that doesn’t seem logical. We do not have an elite that
    is above the law. I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican,
    Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop.

    This is a good way to do that. It is an idea whose time has

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

    “Congress shall make no law that applies
    to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the
    Congressman, Senators, Representatives and the President together with his/her
    staff; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Congressman,
    Senators, Representatives, and the President together with his/her staff that
    does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States”.

    This 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED
    STATES Will apply to all passed, present and future

    Congressman, Senators And Representatives.

    Just think of all the money this would save the tax payers!!!!!

    I think the Senators, Representatives or Congressman that
    comes out strongly for this will be our next President.

    HTCM USN Retired James A. Graham

    May GOD BLESS YOU and YOURS, may you forever walk in his
    footsteps, and MAY the GOOD LORD TAKE A LIKING TO YOU and YOURS Jim

    Subject: FW: IT’S COMING !!

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) –
    The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching
    talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by
    consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. The decision,
    announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the
    position of former President George W. Bush’s administration, which had opposed
    such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better. On Wednesday
    Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United

    The Obama administration
    intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens
    through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing
    international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US
    State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the
    US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be
    subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that
    have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations
    and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are
    designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all
    firearms. It will never happen! The Obama administration is attempting to use
    tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our
    2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can
    appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any
    legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws,
    while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing
    the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws.

    Does that mean Obama is
    telling the truth? What it means is that there will

    be no publicized gun
    control debates in the media or votes in Congress.

    We will wake up one
    morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits
    firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public.

    We will wake up another
    morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of
    firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that
    the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm
    they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face
    imprisonment. This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government
    health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever
    means necessary, so will gun control. Please forward this message to others who
    may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. Straight
    into socialism if Obama has his way… We are being led like a lamb to the
    slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).


  65. I happen to be one of the few conservatives that reside in CA and have watched our highways, streets and neighborhoods fill with illegal mexicans over the past 25 years. I have watched our communities decline in appearance and fill with filthy people and gang bangers that import their filth from mexico. They come here for the free crap and leach off the state for any and all services. The have no intention to better themselves or search for a better life and opportunity as many think. They steal the jobs that once provided teenagers the opportunity to learn what it means to work and get paid. They really don’t care much about becoming a US citizen in the sense that most of us may think, their only interest is so that they may travel back and forth without hassle. I know this first hand as I am married to a first generation mexican woman that was smuggled into this country by her parents. Her parents still do not speak English along with many of her family members but it really doesn’t matter because they have complete communities that they can live in where everyone speaks spanish.

    The mexican culture is destructive and does not promote success through education or responsibility in having only the children they can support. My wife’s brother-in-law told her then 16 year nephew a year ago to “…have sex with as many girls as you can because when you marry, you will not be able to any longer…”. Does this sound like the advice a father should be giving his son ? Yes, the kid impregnated some 15 year old girl and the family just loves it because all the women will have a new baby to play with. They are an uneducated ethnic group that have no ambition to better themselves or their communities. The moronic liberal progressives that believe the hype that these people just need a helping hand are fooling themselves and destroying this state with their misplaced social programs. These mexicans vote and they believe the crap they are fed on the local news. They believe Loreta Sanchez and other mexican political figures that couldn’t find their asses with both hands. These people are followers, not leaders like the european immigrants of the past. Prop 30 is all the proof you need to show just how ignorant the electorate is in CA, they voted to increase the cost to themselves for goods just because the Dems told them the schools, where they send their kids for free, would suffer. You see, when you’re used to getting these things for free and a political figure tells you that you may lose the free service unless you vote to keep it going, you will vote for the increase in tax, especially if you’re an uneducated mexican and you lack the skill of applying logic or thinking the issue through.

    CA is not serious about fixing the states debt much like Obama is not serious about fixing the country’s debt. If they were, they would stop giving away health care, schooling, etc for free and really require everyone to “pay their fair share”. The mexican culture is extremely harmful to the America most of all grew up in and think of as a proud and industrious nation, to them CA is only a part of mexico that was stolen by the US. I know because I speak to my wife’s cousins, uncles, siblings, etc.

    Why do I live here ? The weather, weather, weather and the ability to make big money in real estate building custom homes. I also have a very creative CPA and the state gets very little of my tax money. By the end of 2012 I will close down two corp’s that I run and I have slowly eliminated all employees over the past 5 years in preparation of the ensuing doom CA is headed for. Most of my friends and acquaintances with net worth’s over 5mil have been moving their prized assets from the state and operate with a very small footprint. CA will not get more money by taxing the rich just as Obama will not get more for the Federal Government. They are fools and the Republican House should let them pass all the tax increases they want and make them OWN the economy. Only until then will we as a nation be able to say “been there, tried that”. Any questions ?

  66. yes yes Golden California the land of fruits,nuts and liberal thugs,not to mention a whole state of pure dumb butts. Go Calif. your doin great

  67. Being from Texas, I don’t mind migrants – boy o, I am reminded of the “grapes of wrath” when okies were dying to get to the “promised land” – coming from that socialist state of Calif. into my state just leave your socialist/extreme leftwing politics behind will you?

  68. Why do you think LeBron James left Ohio for Florida? You guessed it, TAXES. I do believe that there are some California millionaires that will scatter out to low tax states in the near future, though it would be odd to see Hollywoods elite leave.

  69. Let the Mixicans have it and the queers and libs lets see how great they do tax all the Mexicans to high hevens take all there money they want to live here so bad let them pay dearly and no more free food stamps or wellfare I am so glad I dont live in that scummy place

  70. The new tax doesn’t come into play until Jan. 1st of 2013….hard to attribute loses in revenue just yet…or am I missing something?

    1. Not really. I would be anticipating and moving things now, not after Jan 1. They will play hell collecting the retroactive tax if you don’t live in the State anymore.

  71. What can you expect from a State, so lost in space, that elected an idiot for Governor…and a wicht for Representative in Washington???

    Perhaps, if they make Mariguana Legal, they might even become normal…

    They deserve everything they get, plus some…



  72. ONly problem is when all those businesses leave, alot of Californians are going to follow. Then they’ll proceed to destroy the new state that they moved too.

  73. Turn out the lights, the party’s over. They say that all good things must end. Except that is unless your a lib. Soon it will be open season on them.

  74. Well lets see Liberal give to people that brake our laws free everything working people must paid for it and Americans white works get screwed so blame those liberals and yourselves for letting the liberals take over.

  75. There is a huge disconnect between the 1% and the 99% and I am not
    talking about just money and wealth. Has anyone noticed about the only
    news on TV is about the fiscal cliff, will we or won’t we go over it?
    In the meantime businesses (the 1% or 2% in this case) are near panic
    whereas the 99% or in this case 98% go merrily on their way shopping and
    generally enjoying their lives. Why the huge disconnect? The fiscal
    cliff was both created by the 1% and it mostly affects the 1% and since
    it’s their problem they need to solve it themselves. Meanwhile, the 99%
    know they have no input or control over it. It’s like working for a
    huge corporation, the average employee has no input into the direction
    of a company and therefore doesn’t worry about the monthly, quarterly,
    and annual board meetings. They just want a job which brings up the
    truly sad tail of all this mess. The 98% either are looking for a job
    or a pay raise and don’t really care about what the management does.
    (One worries about an income before the amount of taxes one pays on
    it.) Management (politicians) rarely put their employees (constituents)
    as the top priority, after all, they have a company (government) to
    run. So until the employee can gain enough power to influence
    management nothing much is going to change. Management (politicians)
    take care of themselves usually at the expense of the
    employees(constituents). We need to force government to take care of
    its people instead of the 1%. After all, if it weren’t for the
    99%(constituents), there would be no 1%(government, wall street, and

    1. You are a bit misinformed. The 99% will not exist without the 1% providing them jobs and they hug sums of taxes paid through corps and personal taxes. Almost 50% of your 99% don’t pay any tax at all but instead take from the other 50%. Forcing government to provide anything only results in them trying to take more money from people who work hard and smart to earn it and give it those who sit around smoking dope. Study History, learn economics, apply some common sense and get a clue.

      1. Bullshit they don’t pay any tax at all. They might not pay any FEDERAL INCOME TAX but they still pay lots of other taxes. You are dishonest.

        Stop lying.

        1. The old worn out argument that because the buy food and crap they probably can’t afford and pay sales tax, they are contributing to the tax base. So if you gave me $100.00 and I turned around and gave you $8.00 back, would you consider that a negative or positive transaction ? The difference between what these people take and what they contribute is vast. I am not speaking of the people on SS or temporary unemployment, etc that have paid into the system most of their lives, I’m speaking of the welfare users and abusers, the 30 million illegal mexicans that take, take, take and give nothing in return, they union and government employees that work based on seniority and move like a snail. The private sector is what made this country great and is the engine that pays 80% of the taxes, make it harder for them to operate and see how quickly that contribution dwindles. I’ll say it again so you can understand, the 99% can only thrive when the 1% provides them with the opportunities, you have your thinking on backwards.

  76. This came as no surprise, and is why I voted no on both Propositions 30 and 38. The Thugocracy known as the Public Sector Union succeeded in only voting themselves more pay raises and perks–all under the guise of ‘funding’ for schools and ‘the children’. As the author correctly states, that 6+ billion will be gone in less than six month’s time, and they’ll be out again in 2014 with yet more useless ballot initiatives, that could actually be avoided by people becoming more educated with how government is SUPPOSED to work and not allow more Spendaholics to go to Sacramento and Washington, DC.

  77. The problem which has already started is this … too many left leaning Californians are heading to other states like Texas, where they immediately begin spouting their failed leftist ideologies all over again. The cancer metastasizes.

  78. A note for those leaving California, if youi come to Texas – leave your liberal notions at the California border as you leave. If you don’t, you’ll find we don’t like liberals in Texas.

  79. We can only hope that an economic earthquake will hit the not so golden state. Serves those degenerates right. I only hope that they don’t bring their economic corruption to other states, although there are already signs of it in AZ, NV and other nearby states.

  80. Austin, Texas has been an “Agenda 21” city for some time. Over half the residents are liberal. Consequently, a lot of transplanted Californians have moved there. The “Agenda 21” movement is alive and well in Austin. If Texas ever secedes, we would be happy to leave Austin behind, except we will retain our beloved Capital building.

  81. Being a genius does not confer common sense.
    Far too many entrepreneurs would rather support moonbeam and Obama, than than Whitman and Romney. The thing that really frosts me is that people who should know better, such as the Russians who founded google, support socialist candidates.

  82. Ahhhh and the left-coast’s love-affair with Jerry Brown has not yet tanked! Their love of anyone liberal is legendary and they keep sending the same goons back to Congress, and can’t figure out why they are in financial deep doo-doo – but then, Hollyweird rules and the regular people lose out to the liberal media who spoon-feed the masses their pablum loaded with promises of wealth redistribution…

  83. The problem is that when the millionaire communists leave they take their contagion somewhere else and begin to destroy that venue as well. That’s because leftist views aren’t political and aren’t subject to modification via fact or experience. It is a psychiatric condition and cannot be reasoned with. This mental illness got Obama reelected and it’s rapidly taking down the US. And we’re the last bastion against the poverty, chaos and violence that will ensue.

  84. “No nation ever taxed itself into prosperity.” –Ronald Reagan The same applies to any level of government. When sales are down, the corporation is supposed to hire more salesmen. Instead, they lay off workers, reduce production. and eventually self-destruct.

    You’ll notice that not a single executive ever offers to step down or even take a pay cut to ease the pain. Not one of our legislators, at any level, has ever offered to take a pay or privilege cut.

    Prime example is our president and his family taking a $4 million vacation to Hawaii, at OUR expense, just after the elections were over. He isn’t going to curtail his profligate lifestyle just because we all have to tighten our belts. Oh, no.

    I invite you all to look up “toxic command climate” on the internet, and couple that discussion with the symptomology of a criminal psychopath. I’ll be waiting over there, in the corner to talk further…

  85. I hope the liberal fools do not come to Texas we have enough liberal idiots here already they always want something for nothing. Democrats open there mouth it is always a lie. Americans must let things take the course so we can rid America of the liberal Socialist once and for all. The Obama and democrats will try and take from the rich but job will go bye bye and more will go on government dole. Then they will rob from red states to feed blue states that will fail and fall to bankruptcy state. Then chaos Obama will send our own troops to disarm Americans then all hell will break out civil war will settle it.

  86. And correct me if I’m wrong (I know I’m not, though), but many of the evil rich people in Mexifornia belong to and fervently support the democRAT party ! ! ! But they only want the ‘other people’ to pay more, as always ! !
    pelousy, boxhead, madmaxine, and others are all part of that cabal that is guaranteed being returned to office by uninformed voters who will never ever equate Mexifornia’s problems with high taxes and excess spending, because this time – like Willy Brown said – ‘” the people were not involved before, but now they are, and this will fix everything, because the people are one with the issue ” – or words to that effect, anyway . .
    Say – is Pete Stark still alive and partly sane ?? I miss his rants . .
    If the whole west coast cracked off and sank, it would not hurt my feeling . . .

  87. Anyone who wants to give more taxes than he owes to the Federal Government has the option to do so on the income tax form. I wonder how much extra Streisand or Spielberg give each year. Surely they must be leading the way by example?

  88. Wonderful California the land of fruits and nuts,the deviants and other liberals have screwed things up so bad that it’s only a question of time before GOD just lets the state slide off into the ocean ,,,,,,,

  89. With the approaching tax death coming on the 1st of January mexifornia now will have a total tax bite of 52.5 percent. When you add in the car tax, gas tax, and property tax you will be paying about 70% of your income to the government. The top rate in CA will be 13.6 percent alone. It is time to start packing and heading for a state like Florida (no state income tax) or a state that is run by republicans….Adios, Moonbeam, you can have her, she’s too fat for me…

  90. There is so much demand for Nevada property, it’s hard to find a place to move…but we will find one before June…after 47 years in California…they can kiss my retired ass, I’m outta here…

  91. Though not “rich”, but very wealthy, I left the US in May 2003.

    Have not paid FICA since Aug 2003; No property taxes in the US since 2004, and No income taxes in the US since 2007.

    ret expat MD

  92. Where there is a democrat control leadership, there is poverty, chaos, fiscal irresponsiblity, moral corruption….ect. All I can say, California deserves it….but please don’t come to my state… I think we should close our borders to the riff raff, and liberal loons. I say lets put all liberals in the state of CA, close the borders and watch them devour themselves into oblivion.

  93. Huh imagine that, the same thing happened I New York when they raised taxes on cigarettes people just changed what they do with their money. The Democrat’s are such morons to believe that trying the same plan over and over will achieve different results.

  94. My wife and I are lucky to be in the situation we are. We’re both retired, have everything we need except food, gas and utilities. Therefore we will be spending literally nothing to survive and the revenue will go down even further. RAT thugs in Sacramento have the brain power of an amoeba when it comes to budgets and spending. The only problem is that the stupid libtards will still vote for higher taxes!

    1. You left out, perhaps, the $$ for the soon to be rising (illegal) property taxes here in the PRK. I’m in the same condition, except I’ve got a small business to buffer the damage the Destruction Party is doing, for a while at least.

  95. “By November, according to data BLS released today, the total

    of people employed had climbed to 143,262,000, an overall increase of

    847,000 in the six months since June.

    In the same five-month period since June, the number of people

    employed by government increased by 621,000 to 20,559,000. These 621,000

    new government jobs created in the last five months equals 73.3 percent

    of the 847,000 new jobs created overall.” This is only the federal

    Fifty- five % of Americas workforce ,works for
    government. The workforce is at 143,262,000 people, 77million people
    work for government and probably another 50million or more are retired
    government employees. The private sector , the only real taxpayers
    employees 63 million people. Women outnumber men in
    Americas workforce , 72 million women, 67 million men.

    Question; Would a man working in the private sector making 10
    dollars per hour. hire a servant (ie government employees) and pay him
    40 dollars per hour, because this what we are doing as a Nation, this
    is called a DEFICIT. Look to see how many States are talking about
    going bankrupt, like California, New York and 6 others, the reason they
    are going bankrupt is because they cannot print there own money, like
    the federal government.

  96. give it back to mexico the illegals have drained the state dry and want more that is the real reason the state has gone down the tubes its been in the making for over twenty years

  97. Becareful what what you wish for you might get just it.Let as many citizens leave California to stick it to these idiot liberals

  98. I live in California & love the scenery & resources, but I can’t stand the liberal insanity of Sacremento!!!! If California would slide 20 miles into the sea we’d be a Red state again! What the rest of the country doesn’t realize is that geographically we’re an extremely conservative state. It’s only the coast line from LA to San Francisco that’s densly populated by the liberally insane!! Support the silent conservative majority reclaim our beautiful state that’s blessed us with likes of Ronald Reagan!!

  99. i say give it back to mexico as they think we stole it from them anyway and along
    with the state they can have the debt and all the entilements that the the triple

    dippers are sucking up

  100. Hey all as a former California resident it gets worse and worse as the golden goose is being killed a little more and more each year. California does not know how to stop spending, just like obama, however, California can not continue to print money and California will go bankrupt. They are two far down the road to do anything about it now and as more and more business wake up and say we have had enough and move across the border the people left will have to pay more and more taxes. I just sit back and laugh at every liberal democrat state continue to sink deeper and deeper in debit.

  101. The only problem is after the fools have so thoroughly fouled their nest that it is unlivable, they will simply fly away and look for another state to ruin! It’s too bad we can’t fence them in and make them stay in the cesspool they have created.

  102. I’m sure they’ll ask the rest of the producing, well managed States to bail them out. If you’re wise you can see the Democrats and their partners in crime are trying to totally collapse the system so they can exploit the crisis, steal everyone’s wealth and end up with total power and control over the peasant masses. You must look at the current government as an army that is gradually turning their weapons on the private sector citizens. Yes, we have been taken over from within. I might suggest gold, silver, bullets, weapons, food and other resources, but ultimately Satan and his human representatives will control ever square inch of the earth. All humans will required to submit to Satan or they will be murdered. You’re only salvation is in God, Jesus the Christ regardless of how things play out in the coming 20 years. Don’t compare the short time on this earth with an eternity with God. Whoever loses his life will save it, and whoever saves his life will lose it. Only those who have the Holy spirit will know the meaning of this saying.

  103. As the saying goes: “You reap what you sow”! The folks and money from California are always welcome in Texas. Besides, we have much better BBQ and Mexican cuisine.

  104. When CA “boycotted” AZ over sp1070 I immediately began to stop doing business with any CA based Company. I changed my Life ins carrier, my bank, my on line shopping from any one shipping from a CA address, I stopped buying food made in CA. I will never vacation there again. I will never knowingly support CA if I can help it. I know there are many in CA that are not responsible for the idiots in their cities, but, hopefully, if ALL of CA feels the pain long enough maybe, just maybe, even the lib city residents will get the picture.

  105. It always amazes me that people fail to understand that when the prices become too high, customers stop buying items. When it is too expensive to live in a certain area, those who have the financial resources to do so leave the area. Look at Detroit, people. Take a good, long look at that once great city.

    Oh, yeah, and if all those rich liberals leaving CA would like to come live in my nice, blue state, more power to you. And in the meantime, I’m looking to find a nice conservative red state that has a job for me and my spouse.

  106. I was THANKFUL, this Thanksgiving, that my LAST FAMILY MEMBER has left California.

    Like others have written, I will hope they don’t bring the ‘California Mentality’ with them as they re-locate in my state!

    Surely, we can all look at what has happened in California, and VOW it will not spread to other states. Let us all learn from their example!

  107. Look how many movies are being made elsewhere rather that in ‘Hollywood’. TONS of lost revenue for Cali. The rich are already getting it.

  108. With any luck California will fall under the Pacific Ocean. The granola state is totally out of its mind as lost touch with reality. You know why it’s the granola state? It’s because the state is populated By Fruits, My Nuts, and The Rest Are Flakes. The only people who waste more money than the state government in California is the federal government in Washington DC. Politicians seem to have no concept of what it means to be broke. We have no money so why do they keep spending?

    Before the year is out you can bet that California is going to start making the same kind of noises as Detroit,” we all voted for you now you’s send you some bacon or some kind of pork”.

  109. Couldn’t happen to a “nicer” group of liberal voters, but at least a lot of real estate will be available on the real cheap.

  110. Hey, here’s an idea. Since California is fast going to become a drag on the rest of the country, why not just give it back to Mexico? I mean, they WANT illegal Mexicans there, so why not make the illegals legal in one fell swoop? Cede it back to Mexico. Just think, we immediately dump 55 forever lib electoral votes, AND we don’t have to bail them out when the time comes. Maybe I’ll run for President on this idea. It’s no worse than what they’re doing now!

    1. Yea, Yoikes, how about everyone in the whole USA work for the compensation that the illegals are being paid? The Plutocrats would just LOVE us!!! The downward pressure on USA wages to compete with sweatshop labor conditions like those in China, whose nation is the benefactor of what I call the Great Sellout, (or more accurately put: the economic treason perpetrated by the top on the middle class) will eventually have us working for $1.36/hr. to compete anyway. Lets just get it over with now so the Plutocrats can turn the mighty USA economy into a Plutocracy now.

  111. There is a parallel story from the U.K. The LABOR PARTY raised their TAXES to 50% for the rich , so there is an exodus out of there. Now their REVENUE is down and like the FRUIT CAKES in California they wonder what happened. You can’t fix STUPID – STUPID is as STUPID does. There will be a barrage of CITIES filing for BANKRUPTCY and eventually CALIFORNICATION will SELF DESTRUCT.

  112. Corporations are making record gains and are sitting on $Trillions in profits garnered mostly from a declining middle class that has more and more of its constituents slipping into poverty in recent years. The nation’s wealth isn’t being “redistributed from the wealthy to the poor through taxation, just the opposite. Here’s why I say that:

    The great wage disparity that has occurred over the past 30 years has consolidated wealth at the top like we haven’t seen since the days of the Robber Barons a century ago. Maybe you think that there’s something wrong with a USA that promoted all of its citizens’ prosperity, but I don’t; it’s smart business. A middle class with disposable income will bolster retail sales and crank up the economy (this is if this increased production actually increases production in USA factories as well as paychecks into the pockets of USA workers like it used to do before the middle class was kicked to the curb for sweatshop labor on foreign soil.) Even so, during the past 30 years real output in the business sector grew by 140%. Real compensation per hour (includes wages, benefits, pensions, and health insurance) increased by only 38% for the middle class worker.
    Post WWII, 1947-1979 America shared equally in the increase in output. During those years the increase that the bottom 20% received was 116%, the top 20% got an increase of 99%, and the middle quintiles increased somewhere within that range.
    Then the world flipped! From 1980 to 2007 the rich took practically all the increase in income. Over those decades, the poor received only a 15% increase and the middle three quintiles got a 25% increase, while the top 20% got a 95% increase and the top 1% received a raise of close to 300%.

    Plus, the middle class contributes to the national treasury (revenue) right off of their paycheck through a payroll tax. By gutting the middle class and depriving it from decent paying jobs by employing a cheap labor force on foreign soil, I hypothesize, you kill the goose that laid the golden egg. The wealthy that have remained super solvent in this 30 year trend of wealth consolidation at the top, have too many methods of hiding their wealth and keep it from being taxed (research “Top Ten Ways the Rich Escape Taxation), including parking it in offshore accounts. Is it any wonder why the debt is snowballing? The combination of a decimated, underemployed/unemployed middle class, and a privileged upper class that has been provided a myriad of means to hide their fabulous wealth, makes no sense anymore. To ask the privileged to put their shoulder to the wheel and chip in with this national crisis has been propagndized by some as “class warfare.” Disgusting!

    Corporations complain about the 35% corporate tax being the highest in the world, but have you looked into all the “corprorate welfare” available to our “multinationals” that have taken tax subsidies to offset the cost of setting up shop offshore ($30-40 BILLION/yr. by some estimates; GE’s profits exceed $14 BILLION, but submit 24,000 pages of exemptions written by a team of ex-IRS employees, and pay zero taxes, for example, look into Exxon/Mobile, etc.) then park their profits in offshore accounts with impunity to escape contributing anything in taxation to their nation of origin.

    Those who should be up in arms about this have been convinced by the political party that promotes the prosperity of those at the top, our Plutocrats, that it’s all about envy and “class warfare.” They have been very successful in fooling the gullible masses that they need to be coddled or they’ll leave the Beautiful USA for greener pastures. As long as the middle class had a decent job, we didn’t even realize class warfare had been declared, so we didn’t show up. BUT WE’RE HERE NOW!!!

    I predict as the money continues to dry up, you’ll see more and more vilifying of those who have slipped into poverty from the middle class as “freeloaders”; a type of blame the victim approach to subterfuge the truth and keep the blame from coming to rest upon the real perpetrators of this mess.

  113. Let the Liberal Brain Dead “Holier then Thou” dummies run the Rich out and maybe the Stupid Voters will wake up BUT Liberalism is a Mental Disorder so they will just keep voting and doing Stupid things to themselves and their State.

  114. The only problem with driving the Liberal Leach infestation from California is that they then go elsewhere and infest that state as well.

  115. I left California 8 years ago but California left me 15 years before that. The problem is there are 4 counties that control all the politics and have destroyed the state. The rest of the state is consevative but has no control. The middle class and businesses are leaving and have been for quite some time. All that is left is the rich liberals, poor and the illegals. The state is going to become “Detroit” with crime on the rise and gangs taking over. The California I grew up in is long gone and will never return. Too bad it was a great place.

  116. Your kidding me – your saying people don’t want to pay more taxes. That’s strange, I always thought when the democrats we’re in power people were jumping with joy to pay more taxes.

  117. California has set the standard of economic, socail, and moral decay that Obama and his socialist comrads are attempting to emulate and spread throughout the rest of the nation.

  118. you wanted obozo go for the pot of old.Suckers hope that you get buried in taxes so deep that you will never get out serves you greedy scumbags trying to leach of people trying to make it on there own.You quickly will find out that Obama will not help you either! Have a great Christmas! I AM!

  119. The problem is that those left wingers moving out of California have to go somewhere.

    Coming to a town near you soon! “The California stupidity cancer”

  120. Neighboring states might consider laws to mitigate Californians from emigrating across their borders without some kind of review. Many of these people will vote for the same kind of politicians and party that drove them to leave California. They are like locusts destroying everything in their path.

  121. That just means more woes for Oregon and Washinigton State as the dips from California have tired of ruining their state and will want to move here and ruinate ours further. Gee, thanks!



  124. A liberal state. Ideaology, tax, tax and tax is like throwing darts at a person. How long do u think someone is going to stand there while u throw those darts. A state of fools. At what point do they recognize their failures. When will they get on the head. We can start blowing TAPS to bury California

  125. Wow, California is in a cash crunch? How could that be with only 15% unemployment, social programs out the wazoo, illegals everywhere and the highest state taxes in the nation? Well, you can bet that 100 billion high speed rail will help change all that…NOT!

  126. There governing body can’t see beyond their chambers. They think everything is fine. They think like Obama. Tunnel Vision and lack of a math education. They don’t have what I call a depth of field when legislating. The domino effect of your decisions. Reducing debt is accomplished by cutting your ridiculous programs, setting up a reserve, an escrow untouchable to pay debt, create jobs and businesses by lowering taxes and real estate taxes. They think Hollywood lives throughout the entire state. They are fine though. The legislators have a good life and they know they will be fine for it’s not like the Californians are smart enough to boot them out of the state. Or they are afraid they may lose the lude law protections, smoking pot, whatever. My message to Jerry Brown, steal what u can and find a place in the sun out of the US Territorial borders. It’s the American Way

  127. Maybe one day we will hire politicians that can actually write a bil with much thought but for now lobbyists write your laws. Define Sound Fiscal Responsibility. It’s not pork, it’s what the taxpayers need not what u want in a bill. Take care of the needs and the responsibilities staring u in the face. Treat your government budget as your personal finances. Yeah, I know it is boring to connect the dots, duh

  128. The Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality was commissioned to do the study on the effect of taking money from the rich, and they found out that the only thing happening would be “mo’ money, mo’ money, mo’ money.” LOL. Imagine that.

  129. In Ca the use of communism grows as the means to end taxation and replace it with rape and pillage by the state…..Ca boast the dumbest voters on earth…..

  130. I have lived in California just about all my life. It is time to leave. No longer are you safe in how you pray or what you say. The state takes from the people who work and gives it to friends and the useless. Time to mosey over to Florida and leave the golden state so it can degenerate into Alto Mexico, a true cesspool of diversity

  131. A revolution has to have an ideology, a theoretical platform
    informed by a world view that gives it the ability to formulate and argue its
    cause. This is why all previous conservative movements failed as they were always
    reactions, not movements. To have great ideas you have to read the great minds,
    to articulate founding principles one must know what they truly are. To date
    none of the conservative bubbleheads go beyond the Republican mantra expressed
    by radio personalities like Sean Hannity or independent Michael Savage, whose
    Borders, Language, Culture, message is engaging, but insufficient.

    When I speak to conservatives I ask them do you know who Frederick Bastiat is? How
    about Ludwig von Mises, F.A. Hayek, Bernard de Jouvenel, Ayn Rand etc. The
    answer is usually “haven’t heard of them” or “no I have never read them.” An
    empty mind is like an empty fuel tank, and an army with empty fuel tanks cannot
    win a war. Here are a few great reads, all of them short
    works that are awesome and free:

    The Anti-Capitalist Mentality, Ludwig von Mises

    Planned Chaos, Ludwig von Mises

    The Law, Frederick Bastiat

    Deflation & Liberty, Jorg Hulsmann

    Return of the Primitive, Ayn Rand (you have to buy this one)

    That’s a good start. If you can explain that economics is not a derivitive of politics, you can start to turn the corner.

  132. If Mr. Cronn is trying to show cause and effect here he failed miserably. Many states haven’t increased taxes and have seen revenue go down also. Also he is comparing actual revenue to estimates, not to what would have happened if taxes were not raised.

    Cause and Effect – Assuming that the effect is related to a cause because the events occur together.

    Example: When the rooster crows, the sun rises. Therefore, the rooster causes the sun to rise.

  133. I live in ,Ca. & am not one of the morons that put jerry brown (gov moonbeam) back into office, the population of this state is so stupid that they deserve every thing that they voted for, & they finally got their tax increase that was voted on for the third time by saying about the children. When these morons find out that they have been deceived again it will be to late. YOu can not teach a democrap anything about taxes & revenue period. So now we will al have to suffer because they convinced a slim majority that they were going to fund the schools with the additional money, What additional money as the budget just took another hit with less coming in, so now they will want another tax increase. Ca has got to be the joke of the US with their tax & spend policies, the good thing is that maybe just maybe they will quit spending 10 Billion per year on illegals you know those p-eople that have no right to be here

  134. This fiscal cliff the establishment is trying to pound into our heads is really to hide the truth of all the liberal spending – Remember our American history like the Boston tea party over a tax? – The establishment is all propaganda (not true conservative alternate) camel dung including the ‘History channel complex’, nat – geo, or 98 percent that’s on TV, most Americans under 50 – 55 have not a clue of how dumb (not being mean) they really are, of our’s & world (true) history, the morons pushing Darwinism (a huge majority are clueless on how this effects mankind) love to wash any truth’s of Our Biblical God out of their young minds, think for yourselves! Don’t even dare let them feed your brains w/this chit, evolution is one of the biggest hoaxes (even more so than the hoaxes of early American founders, including the Mayflower Compact etc) of all, Of Coarse America Was Founded and Built upon a Biblical (Godly) Principal’s! Jonathan Cahn’s “Harbinger” is right on, this also shows the ignorance of Scripture, America once knew the truth, we chose other gods, we are being held at a higher standard (for which much knowledge known much more is expected, we have truly been Blessed but allowed Sa tan in by accepting his stinking trinkets and settled for his evil ways for personal gain. Some are much more guilty of this than other’s, I’m not on a pedestal, maybe more guilty than most before Jesus washed (all) my sins away, I’m still in the flesh and it will be glorious to finally be out of this sinful tent, soon?! It’s all ’cause & effect’ of disobeying His Word, Sa tan is evily wise, he has much more experience than ‘all’ of mankind (Except Jesus) and w/out the help of Christ Jesus you will be snared in Sa tans trappings, like evilution!

    This Christmas season pray for our families (including our precious children & grand children, how tuff it is for them these days) and our nation, may we really understand what life is about, His plan(s) for us especially being fishers of man, time is short, it will be tough for all who aren’t anchored in Christ and His Word!

    note; one of the devil’s tool’s is making us suspicious of out neighbor(s) children accusing parents, brother against brother. Many times the Israelite’s stoned the prophets, looks as though America has not learned, a least early on it was many centuries before the Israelite’s missed up, America has only been a nation for a couple of hundred years, we shouldn’t mock the Jews, we are worse, especially having the New (Testament) Covenant! Have a Merry Christmas, He still Loves (agape) us!

  135. I was going along with it until he said unemployed would leave the state following there ex-employers. They will probably stay collecting the highest welfare benefits in the nation.

  136. All the unemployed workers they leave behind would then have the choice
    of waking up and finally booting out the leeches from Sacramento or
    following their former employers out of state.

    Read more:

    The only problem with that is they will go somewhere else and proceed to screw up that state as bad as they did California. Then there will be 2 states sucked dry.

  137. California now has the HIGHEST PERCENTAGE of people in poverty, higher than Mississippi or Arkansas. Progressive policies and excessive immigration has caused this rapid decline in what used to be the “Golden State” but is now the “Red Stae” as in deficits and socialism. State entitlements are simple transformation of wealth through theft of property through taxation. Our nation under Obama is following harbinger California.

  138. Theyre not the only ones , every state that raises taxes wind up generating less income from their tax raise . When are they going to learn ?

  139. Since the election, I’ve concluded that the country just might need to SUFFER the results of putting Obama back in office…perhaps pain and agony will cause some of the dummies who voted for him to realize what they’ve done to their own sovereignty.

  140. And what part of not learning from the past,lets do it again and expect and can not understand how you do not get another outcome.Buisness 101

  141. What the Democommies refuse to acknowledge or even listen to, is this: “The more they tax, the less they get”
    Simple they seem to tax the successful people, but they forget the reasons why they are successful, they learn, they plan and they look for the lowest business cost States, and why they are loosing so many businesses, to low tax states, and right to work states!
    Note Texas and California, one is growing the other is sinking into hopeless debts!
    But this is true in ALL Democratic Party run STATES, they will all be tomorrow’s DETROIT CITY!

  142. It’s time to move my small business out of state, Nevada and Az. are looking good. So many companies are leaving thanks to Jerry Brown, Prop. 30, taxes and I would encourage everyone to leave. Let the California liberals now foot their own bills, I’m out of here!

  143. Two points:
    1.: Liberal voters and politicians are genetically too stupid tom ever vote any other way!
    2: California will be much poorer, though ultimately not better off until they rid themselves of all the illegal aliens competing for whatever jobs are left. And that won’t happen as long as Washington, D.C. doesn’t strictly enforce the immigration laws currently on the books.
    The U.S. would be better off if California .would suddenly earth-quake its way into the Pacific Ocean.

  144. only in california can you be as dumb as you want to be. with the donkey party dolts and their supporters in the simple service unions in charge they have spent themselves into oblivion and i fear federal income taxpayers (51% and declining) will be forced against our wills by our miscreant president to bail out his and donkey party support groups in the state.

  145. Isn’t this just ironic???? AND, it more than proves the inherent inability of the democratic left to understand or comprehend the logic and inevitable consequences of irrational acts that are so unbelievably stupid! “Let’s take more of all the rich people’s money – they won’t leave – they couldn’t” Well guess what logic says “I’m out’a here” and sure enough, THEY WERE!

  146. California has been in the sea for many years now. At best it will take decades for them to pull out of the pathetic course they are in.

  147. Ahhhhh! The story just breaks my heart. Ya just can’t fix stupid. It’s amazing that with all the pedigrees in California, they can’t add two and two.

  148. Born there, left in 2005 after over 50 years there; I dream of going back to that beautiful place, but not until sane people are allowed to take charge.

  149. Screw California. They help re-elect the left wing marxist liberal Obama, They put that numb nut idiot Jerry Brown back in office, they endlessly re-elect the likes of Pelosi, (a dimented twinkie) and Fienstein, they deserve exactly what they get. screw ’em!

  150. Massive Revenue Loss Follows California Tax Hike Vote

    Climate and landscape make Califiornia a beautiful place to visit. The state and local governments have ruined it with high taxes, giving hard earned tax money and benefits to illegal aliens, give-away programs for those who would rather live off the state, etc. So CA is teetering on bankruptcy. There must be a plethora of low information voters in CA because they are the ones who voted to have their taxes raised. The state of CA could rob you of almost all or your salary and they still wouldn’t have enough. Unless they start cutting expenses, their credit cards will be cut up into small pieces.

  151. For every dime this dirty Obama government takes away from me I will take 2 dimes out of the economy,no car-house-home improvement-appliance-TV-nothing, I do not want to be. In debt when Mr.Obama takes this country over the cliff.

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