Roman Catholic Leaders on Opposite Sides of the Gay Debate


On one side you have the Pope seemingly dismissing homosexuality as a sin by telling gay abuse victims that “God made them” that way.

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A Chilean victim of a Catholic priest’s sex abuse claimed Pope Francis told him God made him gay.

Juan Carlos Cruz, one of three victims of sexual abuse at the hands of Father Fernando Karadima, claimed Francis told him during a private audience in April God made him gay and loves him exactly as he is, according to The Sun. Cruz made the claim to Spanish newspaper El Pais. The Vatican has yet to issue a statement confirming or denying the veracity of Cruz’s claim, despite the fact Francis’ alleged words directly contradict the Catholic catechism. (RELATED: Chile’s Bishops Resign Over Sex Abuse Scandal, Victims Rejoice)

“Juan Carlos, that you are gay doesn’t matter,” Cruz alleged Francis said to him, according to Crux Now. “God made you like this and loves you like this and it doesn’t matter to me. The pope loves you like this; you have to be happy with who you are.”

Homosexual acts are “contrary to the natural law,” do “not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity,” and cannot be approved under any circumstances, the church catechism states. The implication of Cruz’s claim is Francis said God made him with sinful impulses, given the Catholic church’s teaching on the matter. The church does distinguish, however, between homosexual orientation and homosexual acts. The latter is taught to be overtly sinful while the former, though contrary to natural law, is not considered sinful unless acted upon.

Cruz made the claim in response to questions about whether Francis addressed Cruz’s homosexuality. Cruz said he explained to Francis he was a good person and was not a pervert.

“They had basically told him that I was a pervert,” Cruz said, according to Crux. “I explained that I am not the reincarnation of St. Aloysius Gonzaga, but I’m not a bad person; I try not to hurt anyone.”

Cruz also discussed his faith with Francis in response to assertions he was not a believer, the Chilean claimed.

“They had told him that I didn’t believe, that I was an enemy of the Church,” Cruz said, according to Crux. “I told him that it enraged me, because I continue to believe, loving the Church, thinking that this can change.”

Francis made similar comments in 2015 to Diego Neria, a Spanish transgender man who met with him in the Vatican.

“God loves all his children, however they are; you are a son of God, who accepts you exactly as you are. Of course you are a son of the Church!” Francis told Neria, according to Crux.

He has also clarified, however, that while he believes God loves people despite their sexual orientations, he does not believe in promoting sexual acts contrary to church teaching.

“Life is life; things have to be accepted as they come. Sin is sin,” Francis told reporters in 2016, according to Crux. “Tendencies, hormonal imbalance, have and cause so many problems… We must be attentive. Not to say that it’s all the same, but in each case, welcome, accompany, study, discern and integrate. This is what Jesus would do today.”

Francis then made clear he would not sanctify transgender people.

“When a person (who is gay) arrives before Jesus, Jesus certainly will not say, ‘Go away because you are homosexual.’ Please don’t say that the pope will sanctify trans [transgender people], because I read the headlines in the newspapers,” Francis said, according to Crux.

The Vatican has yet to comment on Cruz’s claims and has not offered an explanation concerning Francis’ beliefs about homosexuality. “We don’t normally comment on the pope’s private conversations,” a spokesman for the Vatican told reporters on Sunday, according to Los Angeles Times.

While some have hailed Francis’ alleged comments as an open acceptance of homosexuality by the head of the Catholic church, it is possible, if Cruz’s claim is true, Francis intended to distinguish between God’s love for Cruz as a person and God’s stance toward Cruz’s homosexual acts.

 

And on the other side you have the most important theological professionals in the Church explaining the idea that homophobia is a myth that has been perpetrated by the neo-Marxist left.

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The Vatican’s former doctrinal chief declared homophobia “simply doesn’t exist” and was merely a totalitarian ideology’s tool to redefine reality.

German Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller made the comments decrying the concept of homophobia, originally published in an Italian blog, shortly after the May 17 World Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia, according to Crux Now. Müller lambasted the concept as “an invention, an instrument of totalitarian dominion over the minds of others.”

“The homosexual movement doesn’t have scientific arguments, so it’s constructed an ideology that wants to dominate, seeking to construct its own reality. It’s the Marxist scheme, according to which it’s not reality that builds thought, it’s thought that builds reality,” Müller said, according to Crux.

He also compared the enforcement against homophobia to the persecution levied against Christians by totalitarian regimes like North Korea and the Soviet Union.

“Whoever doesn’t accept this thought is considered sick, as if, among other things, illness could be treated with police and courts,” Müller explained. “In the Soviet Union, Christians were put into insane asylums, which are the means of totalitarian regimes such as National Socialism and Communism. Today in North Korea, the same fate awaits anyone who doesn’t accept the dominant thinking.”

When asked what Müller thought of bishops who held prayer vigils for the World Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia, he said such bishops lacked conviction and allowed “psycho-terrorism” to bully them.

“Some bishops today don’t have the courage to speak the truth and allow themselves to be intimidated. They don’t understand that homophobia is a hoax that serves to threaten people,” Müller added.

“Today, people are being scared by psycho-terrorism, taking advantage of their ignorance … We (bishops) are the ones who seek, with the grace of God, to love all people, including those who are attracted to the same sex, but it must be clear that loving is not obeying genderist propaganda,” he noted.

Müller also addressed the controversy over Pope Francis’ pastoral approach toward LGBTQ individuals, saying while it may seem conciliatory to some, the pontiff has actually only stated what is in the catechism. (RELATED: Sex Abuse Victim Claims Pope Said God Made Him Gay)

“The pope just said the same thing that’s in the Catechism: every person merits respect because he or she is made in the image of God, and we can’t use a person for any reason,” Müller went on to say.

He then acknowledged Francis’ later comment about the existence of a gay lobby within the church was also true. As for church leaders who advocate for doctrinal changes, like a reinterpretation of Pope Paul VI’s reaffirmation of the church’s ban on birth control in “Humanae Vitae,” Müller again referenced totalitarian regimes.

“I compare those who want to revisit ‘Humanae Vitae’ in order to please the masses with those who made compromises during the totalitarian regimes,” he said. “You can’t make compromises with wolves — even for the sake of saving a few sheep. It’s an illusion to think you can save a few sheep, when you’ll lose the whole flock.”

“That’s not the logic of Jesus,” Müller said. “In order to not lose even a single sheep, he sacrificed himself, not the sheep.”

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